You know, honestly with Mika Biereth, when he was here and was scoring in the younger teams and then out on loan, I always thought they would be a path for him in the first team or atleast an effort to see if he would work. I don't even remember him playing a senior game for us. Our level must be very high these days for strikers if he wasn't considered at all.
It's pretty wild people think Gakpo would just trip himself from behind while running in a straight line. There was interference from the defender that caused that trip.
I don‘t think people argue that. the question is simple - out of 10 or 100 times how often is a penalty given? I‘d say less than 50%. likely less than 25%. and that‘s actually the story of the season so far for pool - they have every 50:50, 60:40 go for them and some worse odds too
I don‘t want to say we deserve to be where pool is but in all honesty without the factor refs it is likely we would be way closer
It depends on how you see VAR. Overall I'd say they have fixed the game more than they habe spoiled it. I can't remember many of our decisions that went to VAR that I remember being aggrieved by this season and i can't remember VAR supporting Liverpool although I have very short memory.
haven‘t seen that report but ‚absent from VAR‘ is interesting and I guess it doesn‘t mean lack of intervention but a VAR intervention. so it would basically say if every decision had stood we would have 11 points more or pool 11 less or some kind of combination. but that also implies VAR is wrong every time? and I guess it takes the points you had received at the point of the decision - but you don‘t know how bmouth would have ended for example.
I see your points but arguing we would have X points more/less if no VAR had been there isn‘t a good measure imho
I have seen a foul called every time there was a trip like that. Honestly. Inside or outside the box. It's an interference. A clear obstruction to the attacking player. It wasn't even a lucky call.
Pool have been lucky but they have also been the best team (there's always an element of luck for the team that eventually wins). But if we're being honest, this "Liverpool has been lucky" mantra has just been a way to soften the pain of our incompetence this season.
I have seen them not given, inside and outside. I believe, though I am not sure, we had a situation last season or the season before where I guess tross tried to shoot, opponent touched his foot and he kicked himself on the other foot instesd of the ball.
your other arguments are similar to mine - as I wrote I don‘t think we deserve to be on the same points total as pool but the difference between us isn‘t simply down to competence and incompetence but ref decisions - I would argue 4, 5 points difference would be a fair reflection. just one favourable decision less for them (soton penalty at 2:1 would have likely ended in a loss or draw) and one unfavourable less for us (5 mind added time against city) would have us on 5 points less compared to 9
Yup. Sold him for 9m euro I believe lol. Not sure if Arsenal are the team to buy back players they let go. Too much pride. Chelsea and Utd have done in the past though
For all our attacking failings, Liverpool have been so consistent this season. Without our harsh red cards we would be within range of Liverpool but to overcome a 9 point lead with 15 games left will require a level of implosion that is highly unlikely to happen.
no goals from top positions vs not conceding from top positions
middle and long term injuries to key players vs unreal availibility of 30+ players
though we aren‘t that great this season it has to be mentioned that considering that it could actually be worse. if it stays like this we won‘t stand a chance even if we are somehow able to win all of our games. they have everyone available at basically any time, they receive help from refs when under pressure or doing stupid stuff like kicking balls away, they somehow manage to regularly not concede from positions with 0,3 or 0,4 xg while scoring from 0,05 or 0,1 constantly. unreal
Wolves have had a million chances in this 1st half. Profligate finishing will cost them two points or perhaps three. Cunha seems the type who will ask for a transfer request if things go south in the 2nd half
You know, honestly with Mika Biereth, when he was here and was scoring in the younger teams and then out on loan, I always thought they would be a path for him in the first team or atleast an effort to see if he would work. I don't even remember him playing a senior game for us. Our level must be very high these days for strikers if he wasn't considered at all.
I reckon we sign him on Monday
Sign who?
Have that notion too.
This can't be right but Watkins has never missed a game for villa through injury in his entire time there
Yet today he comes off injured in 45
So Rashford and Asensio done deals for villa it seems
We need ol bug eyes to do us a massive in the last scouse Derby at Goodison.The clocks running down.
Our injury curse is so strong this season that we only have to be linked with a player for him to go down injured (Watkins)....
It's pretty wild people think Gakpo would just trip himself from behind while running in a straight line. There was interference from the defender that caused that trip.
England was on vaR, enough said.
I don‘t think people argue that. the question is simple - out of 10 or 100 times how often is a penalty given? I‘d say less than 50%. likely less than 25%. and that‘s actually the story of the season so far for pool - they have every 50:50, 60:40 go for them and some worse odds too
I don‘t want to say we deserve to be where pool is but in all honesty without the factor refs it is likely we would be way closer
A report from last week says absent Var decisions Arsenal would top the table 2 points ahead if Pool... take it how you like though
It depends on how you see VAR. Overall I'd say they have fixed the game more than they habe spoiled it. I can't remember many of our decisions that went to VAR that I remember being aggrieved by this season and i can't remember VAR supporting Liverpool although I have very short memory.
haven‘t seen that report but ‚absent from VAR‘ is interesting and I guess it doesn‘t mean lack of intervention but a VAR intervention. so it would basically say if every decision had stood we would have 11 points more or pool 11 less or some kind of combination. but that also implies VAR is wrong every time? and I guess it takes the points you had received at the point of the decision - but you don‘t know how bmouth would have ended for example.
I see your points but arguing we would have X points more/less if no VAR had been there isn‘t a good measure imho
I have seen a foul called every time there was a trip like that. Honestly. Inside or outside the box. It's an interference. A clear obstruction to the attacking player. It wasn't even a lucky call.
Pool have been lucky but they have also been the best team (there's always an element of luck for the team that eventually wins). But if we're being honest, this "Liverpool has been lucky" mantra has just been a way to soften the pain of our incompetence this season.
I have seen them not given, inside and outside. I believe, though I am not sure, we had a situation last season or the season before where I guess tross tried to shoot, opponent touched his foot and he kicked himself on the other foot instesd of the ball.
your other arguments are similar to mine - as I wrote I don‘t think we deserve to be on the same points total as pool but the difference between us isn‘t simply down to competence and incompetence but ref decisions - I would argue 4, 5 points difference would be a fair reflection. just one favourable decision less for them (soton penalty at 2:1 would have likely ended in a loss or draw) and one unfavourable less for us (5 mind added time against city) would have us on 5 points less compared to 9
An eight minute hat trick for Biereth. The boy is a professional goalscorer
Mika Biereth with two goals in less than ten minutes for Monaco. He's a better finish than Havertz
We really should’ve kept him.
Yup. Sold him for 9m euro I believe lol. Not sure if Arsenal are the team to buy back players they let go. Too much pride. Chelsea and Utd have done in the past though
New post.
Good Ebening SENOR Emery
For all our attacking failings, Liverpool have been so consistent this season. Without our harsh red cards we would be within range of Liverpool but to overcome a 9 point lead with 15 games left will require a level of implosion that is highly unlikely to happen.
Always the bridesmaid, never the bride?
Cunha’s just scored impressively!
That sounded almost as if Pool deserve to be where they are just there, Bob.
Course they do!
refs favourable vs unfavourable
scoring from nothing vs conceding from nothing
no goals from top positions vs not conceding from top positions
middle and long term injuries to key players vs unreal availibility of 30+ players
though we aren‘t that great this season it has to be mentioned that considering that it could actually be worse. if it stays like this we won‘t stand a chance even if we are somehow able to win all of our games. they have everyone available at basically any time, they receive help from refs when under pressure or doing stupid stuff like kicking balls away, they somehow manage to regularly not concede from positions with 0,3 or 0,4 xg while scoring from 0,05 or 0,1 constantly. unreal
Wolves have had a million chances in this 1st half. Profligate finishing will cost them two points or perhaps three. Cunha seems the type who will ask for a transfer request if things go south in the 2nd half
not anymore he is getting a pay rise
Seriously whiny stream!
Fulham just scored two at Newcastle, hopefully we leave something in the tank after tomorrow to be able to do same