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Rory's avatar

Like the optimism but our problem hasnt been the big fixtures, weve not lost big 6 games ib the last 2 years so the talk if easy run ins doednt hold weight.

Its the lesser teams we lose points mostly to like Fulham twice last year and bournemouth this year, its the "easy" run in where we lose it.

If thats concentrarion level or not taking the opposition seriously i dont nnow but thats what we need to fix.

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Batistuta's avatar

Couldn't have been said better and that's why when people use the "Liverpool haven't played the big teams" line as a way of putting them down, it's funny because it's against those so called "smaller" teams we tend to drop most of our points, at least in the last two seasons

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AKINZO's avatar

I am still sombre and reeling from the draw with Chelsea yesterday.

Dropping 2 points from what was looking like a winning position was doleful.

I felt like grabbing Areteta's neck. It reminded me how far he still to go from being one of the best managers in the game.

We had absolutely no reason selling ESR. He would have been amazing in the games we've had play without Ode.

Areteta needs to learn how to trust more players than his favourites! No manager can ever succeed with only a pool of a few players withbthe number of matches on board.

However, sober hours later, I do feel there are still positives to our performances in that game with Ode back. We had more balance and apart from the lack of spark from our attack our defense is rapidly returning to being unreliable.

The defenders need to stop letting us down

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Aasim's avatar

Some thoughts from yesterday.

- Kai worked tirelessly. Seriously the guy is such a hard worker and tacticians dream. But it wasn’t until Merino came on, did we started having a consistent presence in the box. I’ve mentioned before that Kai is probably not even top 10 in the league for finishing ability. He certainly doesn’t help his cause by not being in box and dropping so deep as frequently as he does, especially when we have such a defensive minded setup

- on current form, how many left wingers are ahead of Martinelli. Diaz, Neto, Son. He seems to have lost the ability to beat his man one v one.

- does Rice look like a 100m player. Like if we were to put him on the market right now, how much would he fetch. Are player losing value after joining Arsenal. We have Jesus, Zinchenko, Rice, where we’d be lucky to get back 70% of our investment

- Jesus after coming on, just seemed so uninterested. Hardly attacked the box, stayed around the half way line. Could this be the beginning on some sort of bad player vibes, sth we’ve been free off over the last 2 years

- Palmer looked easily the best player on the pitch. He’s really intelligent as well, always up the refs ass, trying to influence the narrative

- Neto looked the second best attacking playing or the pitch. Direct and with solutions

- Jackson looked and better and more penetrative than Kai

- Partey was the best player for us. If Arteta ever puts him at RB again, just slap him

- We need to allow our flair players some tactical freedom. That mazy run and shot from Timber, we need more of that

- Twice Fofana bypassed our entire structure and reached the 18 yard box. The same kind of space was allowed to Enzo and Neto for their goal. All these events happened in the space where Rice should have been

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Ryan's avatar

I agree with lots of your points but Palmer did sweet FA yesterday. He had barely a few good moments in the entire match. Very poor game from him despite him undoubtedly being a huge talent

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Aasim's avatar

After 18months and -100m, do we know what position we bought Rice for. Was it to play as the 6? On current evidence, is he anywhere near Partey at 6? Was it to play as an 8 ? Really, an 8 ?!?

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Christian's avatar

This hype of Smith Rowe is laughable.

Has anyone not seen his injury report over the past five years? Arteta owes his job to him and Saka. The lad has been a chandelier. Stop already. He didn’t stay healthy either be it from his own doing, poor medical treatment by the staff or just plain bad luck.

We all loved him but surely you can’t seriously get on the club for selling him for that kind of money

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Christian's avatar

How can you say he’s better when he was never bloody healthy? You can’t be better than someone when you’re always Crocked. Love ESR but those are just facts. Viera was a thoughtless waste of money. At least we made money on ESR is the best I can say about that point

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Mystic Leaves's avatar

ESR was injured for long periods but towards the end for more than 5 months, he was always fit. But the boss just prefered other options like Veira who was worse. ESR left healthy. He was healthy for a while at arsenal and played a couple of times as well

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Christian's avatar

Dude you’re entitled to your opinion but stop selling fables.

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Christian's avatar

Dunno what pawpaw is but I never rated Viera. That was a trash signing by Arteta.

Again answer the bloody question. If Arteta isn’t the answer name two coach’s you’d rather have ….

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Christian's avatar

Olumide I’m all about respect of opinions but come on Mate.

“ Questionable talent ID (Saw Jesus and Zinchenko enough times in City training and still bought them. Bought Fabio Vieira when he had Smith Rowe who's better. And more)”

Jesus and Zinchy in their first seasons were brilliant for us until injuries derailed them. Those are just the facts. Jesus hasn’t been the same after his first two knee surgeries.

Fabio Viera was a trash buy but how can you make a comparison to Smith Rowe? We all love ESR but the guy spent more time in the rehab clinic than a pig in a mud pit. Sorry those points don’t add up in your indictment of Arteta .

Sorry but in a league as competitive as this it’s the small margins. And if your team is missing its best players then the margins get even tighter. Ask the great Pep Guardiola

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Christian's avatar

Erm Partey was a younger version of himself at Athletico and lord knows that the EPL is much more physically intense and demanding than La Liga so your point isn’t valid.

At West Ham Rice had a different role. He has multiple roles at Arsenal and it has taken a toll on him but that has nothing to do with Arteta. Bigger club and bigger role

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Christian's avatar

Wait what are you on about?

What was our record prior to the Qatar World Cup? We were on top of the league and surprising everyone with the quality of our play and winning big games. Dude I don’t know why you’re hooked on the negativity drug. If you despise Arteta just say it and let’s not waste each others time.

But while you’re at it please state two or three alternatives to Arteta

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zaco's avatar

while it was a disappointing result, we played well and should have won

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Habesha Gooner's avatar

I am mostly positive. But we needed to win today. A 3 game swing is going to need perfection from us and a complete collapse from Liverpool. And I don't see that happening.

We have had a horrendous run where we have picked up, 2 points from a possible 12. That is where league titles are won and lost. And I think we surrendered it today. I think we will get close. But overtaking them to win the league is going to be a tough task.

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kofi's avatar

We should have won, we had the chances and we conceded from a very poor defensive situation

still don‘t understand how colwill did not get booked for blocking raya - this is not a decision like the seriousness of a foul. if a player intentionally tried to impede a goal keeper he needs to be cautioned

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Christianpt's avatar

Half excited for the international break for a change. Last month has been thoroughly depressing. Results wise and performance wise. Thought the return of Ode definitely improved things, but I’m still disappointed as I felt Chelsea was there for the taking. This kind of fixture last season we would have bossed, but we seem to be lacking confidence and bite.

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Mb's avatar

I would love to see some of you on my blog as well

https://londonisred.com/

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Tom Wojtyga's avatar

Oh yea?

What’s your moderating policy like?

Can one say shitpissfuckcuntcocksuckermotherfuckerandtits?

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Mb's avatar

Yeah, something like that mate.

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Thierry Martinelli's avatar

"You guys need to stop whining and have some perspective. We’ve been to

Newcastle

City

Spurs

Chelsea

Villa"

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We can only say we did well after LFC and City have a similar fixture. Until then, we can't say we've done well. We are not the measuring stick of tough runs. Until then just remember we're are 10pts off top of the table.

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Christian's avatar

You clearly didn’t get the point.

It’s not the just facing tough opposition but doing so with a heavily depleted squad. You can’t compete in a competitive league like this that’s decided on small margins when circumstances force you to have a backline of Partey, Ben White, Kiwior and Myles Skelly against the league leaders. You gotta have perspective and not just surface analysis

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Johng's avatar

So fucking pissed off this season, when is the joy going to kick in

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Kay's avatar

I think next 6 games is what is going show who is winning it at the end.

If we don't get 18/18 we are done.

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kofi's avatar

true though I would add ipswich, brentford and brighton in there as well so we need 8 wins out of those 9 games, better win all 9 obviously

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Kay's avatar

If I ever see that stupid fall guy Jesus again in an Arsenal shirt I d be livid

Such as waste of space.

Need a Saka backup asap.

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goona's avatar

Hes absolutely fucking useless, why do you yhink city got rid!

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Johng's avatar

Just can't think about Liverpool winning the league, if would be unbearable. Bloody typical that the year city are struggling we struggle too

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TheLegendaryDB10's avatar

I am not too disappointed by our away draw today. We played well and with conviction which is very nice to see.

That we missed Øde until now is pretty clear. He was all over the pitch as usual giving us control of the middle of the park like he usually does.

We now just need to build on this performance when we play again in 2 weeks time vs Notts. Forest.

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Mystic Leaves's avatar

For me, a draw was the least I expected us to get. I'm disappointed we didn't win. But not exactly hurting. I have toned down my expectations for the season. League is gone. Cups remaining. We absolutely need to do well in 1 or 2 of them

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Johng's avatar

After struggling for many games without Ode the treatment of Smith Rowe last season and sale this is just criminal. Arteta just has not got a clue on how to keep a squad with everyone on top of their games. Same 11 week in week out

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