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Pedro, advice from heart. If you gonna twist do it smoothly. It's very funny and suspicious you turn your back to MA after 5 years of endless support :-) Really suspicious. I'm still believe in Mikel. Not PGMOL, that's the thema.

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Florian Plettenberg, SkySportsDE

Arsenal are seriously interested in signing him as a free agent in the summer. Concrete talks have already taken place!

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signing who?

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Sane haha my bad

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The signings aren't really "free", per se.

Sane would command a hefty sign on bonus, like £15-20 million, or more which is enough to sign a prospect with good scouting.

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The pictures of Saka in training have me smiling.

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"afc.newss_

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🚨| Arsenal have added Viktor Gyökeres to their list of striking targets.

It's understood that Sporting are WILLING to sell him for around £58.5M which is £25M BELOW his release clause! 🇸🇪 ⏳#afc"

The root source is a Ukrainian source though, take it with a pinch of salt.

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Ben Jacobs

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Situation with Viktor Gyokeres remains that Sporting are planning for a summer exit. In previous windows, they would only engage around the €100m release clause. This summer Gyokeres will be available for around €70m. Similar kind of price to Benjamin Sesko.🇸🇪

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This was yesterday. He is reliable.

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Yea but tracing the source of the rumors shows that it was first broken by trubuna.com, then the domino reporting started.

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I just found this so I'll post it in here as well for better visibility.

https://www.topscorersfootball.com/primeira-liga-winners-and-information

2023/2024 Viktor Gyökeres - Sporting 29 goals

2022/2023 Mehdi Taremi - Porto 22 goals

2021/2022 Darwin Núñez - Benfica 26 goals

2020/2021 Pedro Gonçalves - Sporting 23 goals

2019/2020 3 players 17 goals each

2018/2019 Haris Seferovic - Benfica 23

2017/2018 Jonas - Benfica 34

2016/2017 Bas Dost - Sporting 34

2015/2016 Jonas - Benfica 32

2012-2015 Jackson Martinez - Porto 67 goals in 3 seasons

I've no clue who the fuck is Jonas but he's outscored Gyokeres. Twice.

I know Bas Dost from the Dutch league - as I said, similar league when looking at the offensive players' inflated numbers in every way. Horrible player, obviously good for 2nd rate teams.

Jackson Martinez - the Berta special of course.

Then tell me again how excited I should be about a player scoring lots of goals in Portugal.

I just read about the Jonas dude. After the 32 goals, he scored 34 goals and that happened the season before his retirement. He won 2 Bola de Prata (their equivalent of the golden boot) aged 32 and 34.

He scored 137 goals in 183 games in his 5 seasons for Porto, all after he turned 30 yo. The season he retired, aged 35, he scored 15 goals in 1450 mins. He was banging them in for fun in the season of his retirement.

Before that, his best league tally is 13 goals in one of his 4 seasons for Valencia where he scored a total of 51 goals in 157 games.

In other words, he almost tripled his goals per season playing in Portugal compared to Spain. That's the league we're dealing with as shown by multiple huge money failures in recent years. But, no, let's close our eyes and GET EXCITED. It's Berta shopping from the Portugal league, it's not like he hasn't fucked up big time when buying from there... Oh wait...

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You're insufferable. Bringing stats from 6-7 years ago to justify today. Get in the bin! Odegaard ain't going anywhere, and I hope we sign Gyokeres.

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Raptora

Are you saying we win the league with Havertz as our main striker?

We need a top striker. If Gyokeres is not the answer, who is a striker that cost cheaper and has more NPG than him that we can get?

He has 29NPG in the league this is more than Jesus, Havertz have scored in an season they have played in all their career. Also, comparing his stats with previous years is just funny, cause it was not the same team or situation. Maybe he will flop or be successful in England, who knows but he can only be judged by his output and to minimise 29NPG is really interesting.

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Gyokeres has 25 goals scored from penalties over the last 2 seasons.

Gyokeres has 25 non-penalty goals in 3340 mins this season.

Samu Aghehowa, has 19 non-penalty goals in 2730 mins (600 less than Gyokeres) so far in Portugal (21 including pens), he's 20 years old in his first season as a main striker. Except he showed he's good at Atleti where he scored 9 goals in 2000 La Liga minutes, aged 19. Young and a top talent.

I'd rather buy a 21 yo Samu than a 27 yo Gyokeres with a similar output. Add Samu to Havertz. Raise him at our club the way we play while he's 21 yo. If he works out, he could be our striker over the next 10 years +.

Get someone like Cunha to play in a pair with Havertz or as a false 9.

Isak would probably bang for us, and I like Ekitike (slight reservations as of the other day). I could be swayed into Osimhen.

That's Samu, Cunha, Isak, Ekitike, Osimhen I would get ahead of Gyokeres. Oh and Ollie Watkins in a cut price deal of 40m, absolutely. That's 6 options ahead of Gyokeres.

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Arsenal will get whoever they choose to sign

No need to tie your knickers in a knot over this.

Good thing is there are lots of striker options on the market this summer.

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Jackson Martinez the Berta special...Christ you're a special case. We'll just forget that he was close to signing for arsenal or all the good strikers he's signed...but no HE'S the Berta special.

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It's funny cause he's not even the biggest fuck up he's made buying from Portugal but the £113m paid for Felix, the 5th most expensive transfer in the history at the time.

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The athletic actually explained that the Felix deal was a super-agent deal that was done by the Atletico long-serving CEO Gil Marin who was Atletico’s primary decision maker.

Berta wasn't the primary decision there is was the CEO t who often conducted the biggest deals personally with agents and club executives he knows well, such as Portuguese agent Jorge Mendes or Barcelona president Joan Laporta.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6175996/2025/03/11/who-is-andrea-berta-arsenal/

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I promise I'll read it carefully today or tomorrow.

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raptora

The protectionist arguments you're making now is why Sesko didn't come last summer and stayed at Leipzig for his "developments"

No proper #9 is going to come to Arsenal to be back up to a German #9 who was bought as a #8 or a Brazilian #9 who's really a winger.

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Pedro would be right if we had done all these elaborate interview process as a charade and then ended up promoting Jason Ayto.

Instead we signed the most experienced DoF available, one that is universally respected and has saturation media coverage.

Pedro is setting up Berta for selective criticisms if things go belly up.

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yes that might be true, but Pedro also has finally recognized there is a King at Arsenal who is untouchable. Finally seeing the light on his boy Arteta. If our transfer window is shit, I know who gets blamed now but in reality, its likely going to be Mike demanding x y z player. Mike loves to have a fall guy for his mistakes

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If Berta brings him Gyokeres and things don't work out, I believe Arteta will have a real point about the fall guy part.

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him or others as well. Who knows what Mike has in mind. Zubi yes, that is a Mike pick we know. Not who I would want.

Will Mike drop Ode and find his replacement? Our midfield creativity stinks.

Our middle attack is non existent once again.

Wing play is the only way Mike knows how to play.

what are our stats for goals scored from outside the box in the middle?

Aside a few TP bangers and Cala getting us some timely goals/

ID like to see Ode replaced by Ethan in time, him and Saka on the right side would be great to see combining

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If Arteta can't make a natural goal scorer like Gyokores work by May 2026, then it would be grounds for his dismissal on the basis of incompetency.

By that time, It would have been 6 years after he won anything so it will be Sayonara.

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I doubt it. Josh K loves Mike. Would rather fire all those around him than him himself.

This summer window will be super telling about what direction Mike is going and with Berta helping to pull the strings.

We need a proper 9. Im not too fussed over Gyokeres. He should be able to do a job for us better than Kai.

Where does he play his favorite Kai ? You know he is undropable.

Are we going to see our 11 tinkered again to fit Kai now?

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That's the point though, you don't sign a Gyokores and then bench him for Kai.

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lets see if we even get a striker or he goes with Kai again. Will Mike ever learn a lesson?

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I understand Pete’s concern but the most worrying issue would’ve have been appointing someone with little experience or associated with Mikel. Another important point you’ve left out from the piece in the Athletic is that they mentioned even though candidates had those concerns, all of them unanimously proceeded. Lastly, having Mikel as the most experienced football person at Executive level was ridiculous. Him & Berta should work.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBfujf35Wyc

AFTV's james analyzing Gyokeres. For 60m, I would have that all day long.

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I learned nothing new but it's good you got to watch it too.

- awful stats in the air - 0.6 aerials won per game, bottom 6% (Havertz is on 3.40 per game, top 86%)

- god awful stats when defending - 0 tackles and 0 interceptions in 365 days from fbref is something unbelievable honestly, bottom 1% across all the forwards in the top 5 leagues

- a few mentions of scoring most of his goals with a low amount of defenders in the box but no mention that about 1/3 of his goals (25) are from penalties

Red flags everywhere.

There's a good chance this is a smoke screen. Or it's entirely a Berta shout and we might get to see the first internal conflict cause I doubt Arteta would get on board with Gyokeres. The Swede at Arsenal doesn't make much sense.

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You're setting up protectionist arguments around your idol, Havertz. 😁😁😁

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He is looking at anything but the 85 goals and 26 assists in two seasons lol. He even got coventry 22 goals the season before he moved to sporting.

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Remove the 25 pens and it's not as impressive.

https://www.topscorersfootball.com/primeira-liga-winners-and-information

2023/2024 Viktor Gyökeres - Sporting 29 goals

2022/2023 Mehdi Taremi - Porto 22 goals

2021/2022 Darwin Núñez - Benfica 26 goals

2020/2021 Pedro Gonçalves - Sporting 23 goals

2019/2020 3 players 17 goals each

2018/2019 Haris Seferovic - Benfica 23

2017/2018 Jonas - Benfica 34

2016/2017 Bas Dost - Sporting 34

2015/2016 Jonas - Benfica 32

2012-2015 Jackson Martinez - Porto 67 goals in 3 seasons

Are you impressed by the above?

I've no clue who the fuck is Jonas but he's outscored Gyokeres. Twice.

I know Bas Dost from the Dutch league - as I said, similar league when looking at the offensive players' inflated numbers in every way. Horrible player, obviously good for 2nd rate teams.

Jackson Martinez - the Berta special of course.

Tell me again how I should focus on his goal stats and be happy about banking our most important summer in a decade plus on a striker from the Portugal Liga.

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The dude in the video Hab posted talked on the topics. His worry is also due to Havertz being his idol?

It's normal to compare Gyokeres to Havertz cause the German is our current CF.

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Your arguments are as flawed as the economics-bereft geniuses arguing for tariffs in 2025.

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I hope we don’t move away from signing younger players but the main incisive additions need to be ‘now’ signings because time is running out. MA probably has until next year to win a major trophy - Prem or ECL.

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Pedro this is a very good post you made. I think you hit many good points about the new hire. Im glad the Athletic also has called out the details of his job description which is essentially to get Mike what he wants.

It reaks of folks at the top not knowing WTF is going on. Mike is literally a God and untouchable at the club. This is a disaster.

Its been said that top 4 is all the owners care about.

Nowhere it is to be seen about Mike having his feet held to the fire or else. Arsenal has a big problem with overkeeping staff that are not cutting it.

Lack of ruthlessness.

I am pointing the finger at Josh K who seems utterly clueless

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I think you can't see the forest for the trees

Fundamentally the job of a Director of football is to get any manager [head coach] what he needs.

Monchi is one the best DoF in world football, he was brought to Villa by Emery who learned well from his Arsenal experiences. He gets Emery the players he needs.

A DoF can't just go and buy just anyone without the strong input of the manager. Same way, Txiki Begiristain got Pep Guardiola what he needs - he can't force anyone on the manager.

They have to have chemistry to make it work. The problem is when they disagree, how do they resolve the differences

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Exactly so how did that work out for Edu? Its clear that Josh does not want that situation again. Berta likely is just going to go after players Mike wants. Thats it. I dont think he has any teeth outside of his contacts book too much

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Have you considered that many of the players that Mikel likes are credible choices that Berta will have on his list as well. No Director of football signs high transfer fee players that the manager expressly disagrees with.

My point is that the damage was irreparably done the moment Mikel was appointed as "manager", promoted from "Head coach"

Unless you change the designation, even appointing Jesus directly from the tombstone wont change anything.

Berta's brief is to project into the future, whilst Mikel is for the here and now. Watch out for the speculative, small money signings he makes.

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Have you considered that many of the players that Mikel likes are credible choices that Berta will have on his list as well.

I DONT agree with this at all. How do you know who is on Mike's list and Berta's list? Mike wanted Merino, Cala. Sterling. etc. Not the best based on our needs.

The FA cup win after party must have been something else. Mike got what he wanted after that win. Convinced a wasted Edu, Stan Josh and Vinai about his idea. LOL

Devious little cunt

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Last summer, I think Edu had about enough and was on the way out. They promoted Richard Garlick from under him to become his boss so he was constructively fired. That's why he didn't push back as much.

Honestly you can't limit a staff you've just invested a £15 million yearly wages on.

The damage was done 5 years ago and consolidated when they gave Arteta the bumper contract.

It's too late to start talking about "king" stuff.

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Also Sesko looks like one of those players that are like grapes in the vineyard, being prepped to be harvested and put in the fermentation vats for Bayern Munich.

I suspect he'll wait at Leipzig and go to Bayern Munich to replace Harry Kane in the 2026/27 season .

He's in the pipeline for Munich.

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@Bobbt Reds and all the other Arteta loyalists. Supporting/Criticizing Arteta is NOT the same as Supporting/Criticizing Arsenal. Keep up with it. So for your next post engage brain before putting keyboard in gear and remove all doubts about your limited knowledge.

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Sacha Tavolieri

Martin Zubimendi and Viktor Gyökeres are Arsenal’s priorities.

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If our two big transfers next summer are Zubimendi and Gyokeres and our main midfield three is Zubi, Rice, Ode with Gyokeres up front, we can kiss goodbye the dream of watching faster, more attractive football or achieving better results unless we have a lucky season similar to the one Liverpool are having right now with zero injuries to their core players (bar Alisson) and with all of our contenders having a bad year.

It's not about getting a lucky title and knowing Arsenal's luck, it won't happen regardless. We have to build a complete squad, the midfield 3 + CF mentioned above don't have the creativity we need to make it work.

On the flip side, we'll have MLS, Nwaneri and Havertz ready to pounce but then again, would the players we're dropping big fees on be better than what we already have? If not, then we could instead add to the current team the missing ingredients which are creativity and pace from the wings and midfield and actually build a complete squad.

Joan Garcia, Zubimendi and Gyokeres for £150m (could be more btw) and I'd question if we've even upgraded at all. It would be one bad summer in a transfer window we can't afford to fuck up this time around.

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A big no to Zubi for me. Our midfield is where a lot of our issues with creativity stem from. Mike's plan for attack is always make us hard to beat. This fella is fine with 1 nil victories it seems.

A polar opposite to the great Wenger and the attack we once used to have

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rather that tough than losing 5-0 away against all other top 4 sides.

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The language argument is rather similar to the puerile nonsense Pedro peddled against Emery.

Any sporting director that speaks only one language is dead in the water, be it English only. Prerequisite is to be able to speak multiple languages, doesn't matter if English is the number 3, 4 or 5

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I've got some interpretations of why he keeps bringing up appointments he doesn't like and their lack of English but it's a can of worms and a probable ban but it's a bit of a dog whistle for certain types and it's very unfortunate. It's just how the Internet is these days. I personally couldn't give a good fuck if the DOF of Arsenal spoke like a Sumerian prostitute as long as they were qualified and good at their job.

Bring me Julian Alvarez speaking Cantonese and your mouth stuffed with pretzels and I won't care.

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Pedro sounds like a little englander when he writes about foreigners who work for Arsenal but aren't named Arteta.

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yes not sure why Pedro brings that point up all the time.

But are we now going to see an influx of Italian and Spanish players based on Berta's contact book?

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