If the gap to pool was 8 points I’d half fancy it but 12 is clearly beyond us. We’re as likely to drop more points as they are is the unfortunate truth
But let’s at least see if somehow something magic happens in the Madrid games
Was fully agreeing with Johnny on the OTW but Pedro talking sense. Another 2nd finish is an achievement and shows were consistent but I think most fans (me included) are looking at it through the lense of the formal has been pretty shite all season. We’re boring and predictable. And like everyone says “I don’t care if we win” but that’s the point, we haven’t won AGAIN. Obviously the summer and Jan blah blah blah but ultimately we’ve stagnated when previously we’ve improved. I don’t think it helps that it’s pretty obvious what we needed to move forward which is why there’s so much frustration. And I’m with Matt, it’s embarrassing that merino is leading the line for months. Shocker
The pundits on ESPN+ can't understand the comment by Artea that Chelsea has the best attack in the league and call it guff and can only explain it as being kind to each other from their work together at City.
For me it is more worrying if Arteta thinks that Chelsea has the best attack in the league that he has absolutely no idea how to set up AFC attacking line in the next season.
If anyone thinks we will get a world class striker in the summer, think again.
Fabrizio reported that Liverpool approached Isak's representatives for a move. Chelsea and United also are looking for a world class striker but unlike us, all 3 of them have strikers who they can throw into the deal.
We have fuck all to sweeten the deal. Again, Arteta could have had Isak in the summer of 2022 for £67mill from Real Sociedad but we got Jesus, Vieira and Marquinios for €91mill and now we need to replace that lot. Isak is high on the wish list for several major clubs, we are just one among many.
You could put a prime Henry, Batistuta, R9 in this team and Arteta's mind-numbingly shit tactics will nullify their entire threat. What would Thierry do in a team that just camps around the opposition box endlessly passing, hoping for some luck in 90 minutes? Isak will be a waste of money under this manager.
If after 5 years, he still can't figure out a way to break down low/mid blocks, it's never going to happen.
Peter you took too many hits of Hopium man. This flip flopping in your posts can only be because you finished the entire bag of hopium on your own before you wrote this.
In reality, the game was another reminder we cannot put the ball in the net despite more chances. Lots of chances with weak end products.
Its true, the team is more worried about sustainability, and would rather this than go broke for first place. Much like a corporation only wants more money and profitabiity
Totally agree - safety first would make you a top-4 (or even top-3) team year after year because it brings stability. But it will rarely give that marginal edge that makes the team win the most important games and become the best in the competition.
The Italian has offers from UAE, Italy and Japan also.
Nothing signed as of today but Arteta will try until the last moment to convince him to change his mind.
-------------------------------
I can see why we won't want to let go of both Partey and Jorginho. But if funds are available, we should be looking to replace one with a #6 and another with a #8.
Why the fuck would we try to keep Jorginho when we barely play him. It's like keeping Zinchenko all season long to do fuck all. Mikel really struggles with letting go
The only players he struggles to release are the useless ones. He only let go players that are important easily, he even paid clubs to take them off him. His hobby is to keep useless players.
Also most of our attacking options looked dead on their feet. Even Nwaneri who appeared only for 15 minutes.
It's a bit crazy that our freshest attacker is the player who was out with a muscular injury for a month and didn't train most of the time with the regular team.
that opens up an interesting point - are we better because our goals are split up evenly and we are not dependent on a player or two or is a striking department lead by one or two players better?
I‘ve heard on a podcast a few days ago pool fans arguing that if salah had been injured like saka pool would have been fortunate to make top 4. don‘t want to argue whether this sentiment is overkill but salah contributed 50-ish % g/a for pool this season, they are fully dependent on him. I would actually go as far to say if salah misses the rest of the season I won‘t bet in pool winning the league
for us it should be seen as a plus to have goals coming from everywhere though a guy scoring 20+ and another one with 15+ (we have this in saka I guess) would be appreciated
Fabrizio Romano says big massive proposals will come for Isak as Arsenal will be there. Sesko the other name on the list. Liverpool will also try for Isak & have made contact with people close to the player. For Arsenal he's the absolute top target.
________________________________
Reading this, there is a real chance our business is halted depending on the outcome of the Isak chase. I really hope we're smarter than that and get an early indication of where things stand and don't allow this one transfer completely halt our summer business.
It would be a very Arsenal thing to do to put all our eggs in the Isak basket, get sent on a wild goose chase, ultimately fail to get the man, then find ourselves scrambling for scraps on deadline day
As well whilst he’s obvious a fantastic player, I’m not sure I like the idea of Arsenal spending 150m on a single player. We’ll end up with him but then a lack of quality buys in other positions.
I don’t want us ending the summer with him as CF but gaping holes on the wings for example still there.
Boring
If the gap to pool was 8 points I’d half fancy it but 12 is clearly beyond us. We’re as likely to drop more points as they are is the unfortunate truth
But let’s at least see if somehow something magic happens in the Madrid games
Was fully agreeing with Johnny on the OTW but Pedro talking sense. Another 2nd finish is an achievement and shows were consistent but I think most fans (me included) are looking at it through the lense of the formal has been pretty shite all season. We’re boring and predictable. And like everyone says “I don’t care if we win” but that’s the point, we haven’t won AGAIN. Obviously the summer and Jan blah blah blah but ultimately we’ve stagnated when previously we’ve improved. I don’t think it helps that it’s pretty obvious what we needed to move forward which is why there’s so much frustration. And I’m with Matt, it’s embarrassing that merino is leading the line for months. Shocker
The pundits on ESPN+ can't understand the comment by Artea that Chelsea has the best attack in the league and call it guff and can only explain it as being kind to each other from their work together at City.
For me it is more worrying if Arteta thinks that Chelsea has the best attack in the league that he has absolutely no idea how to set up AFC attacking line in the next season.
He said Chelsea has the best attack...what is he an idiot.
Anyone have any idea on who we gon sell? If it’s Nelli I think that’s a great sell.
If anyone thinks we will get a world class striker in the summer, think again.
Fabrizio reported that Liverpool approached Isak's representatives for a move. Chelsea and United also are looking for a world class striker but unlike us, all 3 of them have strikers who they can throw into the deal.
We have fuck all to sweeten the deal. Again, Arteta could have had Isak in the summer of 2022 for £67mill from Real Sociedad but we got Jesus, Vieira and Marquinios for €91mill and now we need to replace that lot. Isak is high on the wish list for several major clubs, we are just one among many.
Bore off you negative prick. Just shut the fuck up for fucks sake
What's more....
Isak value probably doubled while we likely need to write off all 97m£ ....
For me, he'll renew with a doable release clause so he has an out in the future. But he'll still be a Geordie next season.
You could put a prime Henry, Batistuta, R9 in this team and Arteta's mind-numbingly shit tactics will nullify their entire threat. What would Thierry do in a team that just camps around the opposition box endlessly passing, hoping for some luck in 90 minutes? Isak will be a waste of money under this manager.
If after 5 years, he still can't figure out a way to break down low/mid blocks, it's never going to happen.
Best time to change the manager. 6 years. OMG!!
Security, security....fuckwits have gotten out again, over......
The entitled and the naysayers are out in force today. Must be full moon or something.
Let me fix that for you:
"The concerned and truthsayers are out in force today. They must be enlightened and insightful."
Let me fix that for you 'I'm MG42 and I'm a cunt'......you've taken the first step!
Peter you took too many hits of Hopium man. This flip flopping in your posts can only be because you finished the entire bag of hopium on your own before you wrote this.
In reality, the game was another reminder we cannot put the ball in the net despite more chances. Lots of chances with weak end products.
you wrote Thierry Merino
SMH lol
Eddie Howe has matched Arteta’s legacy at Arsenal. Generational.
Football—and sport in general—is about doing as many things right as possible and keeping yourself competitive every year.
Pedro
I want to buy into the positivity but this is what I’d expect of Tottenham
If you want to win you have to cast aside the safety first approach and let the hand break off
You have to adopt a winners mentality
You have to go at teams with verve and flair while keeping it tight as you can at the other end
We just keep it tight as we can and hope our 5% margins take us over the line
It’s like using poker percentages to win the league in football
Football, especially premier league football, doesnt work like that
It’s why it’s the most loved sport in the world
It’s too unpredictable
A goal can change any game
Underdogs win and they win big
Its true, the team is more worried about sustainability, and would rather this than go broke for first place. Much like a corporation only wants more money and profitabiity
Totally agree - safety first would make you a top-4 (or even top-3) team year after year because it brings stability. But it will rarely give that marginal edge that makes the team win the most important games and become the best in the competition.
HandofOzil
@HandofOzil
Flamengo pushing hard to sign Jorginho.
The Italian has offers from UAE, Italy and Japan also.
Nothing signed as of today but Arteta will try until the last moment to convince him to change his mind.
-------------------------------
I can see why we won't want to let go of both Partey and Jorginho. But if funds are available, we should be looking to replace one with a #6 and another with a #8.
Why the fuck would we try to keep Jorginho when we barely play him. It's like keeping Zinchenko all season long to do fuck all. Mikel really struggles with letting go
The only players he struggles to release are the useless ones. He only let go players that are important easily, he even paid clubs to take them off him. His hobby is to keep useless players.
Unless it’s players who change games in the finals third
he doesnt struggle with letting go. He let our last striker walk out. Amongst many others he doesnt fancy
we need to do this
Also most of our attacking options looked dead on their feet. Even Nwaneri who appeared only for 15 minutes.
It's a bit crazy that our freshest attacker is the player who was out with a muscular injury for a month and didn't train most of the time with the regular team.
Says a lot about Arteta's fitness management.
This club knows how to sell the future to gullible fans and they have found a way to chanel news via the likes of Ornstein and Fabrizio.
Now the bullshite story is about "big massive proposals will come for Isak as Arsenal will be there"
That's got people talking and taken their gaze from the real issues.
They were right about Rice who snubbed City to join us. It wasn't just smoke.
its smoke 99 percent of the time
Joe brings it up down thread but just for shits and giggles Saka, Havertz , Jesus have combined for 26% of our EPL goals this season thus far.
Palmer,Jackson, Madueke for 56% of Chelsea’s.
All six missing yesterday but to listen to Pedro we were handicapped.
that opens up an interesting point - are we better because our goals are split up evenly and we are not dependent on a player or two or is a striking department lead by one or two players better?
I‘ve heard on a podcast a few days ago pool fans arguing that if salah had been injured like saka pool would have been fortunate to make top 4. don‘t want to argue whether this sentiment is overkill but salah contributed 50-ish % g/a for pool this season, they are fully dependent on him. I would actually go as far to say if salah misses the rest of the season I won‘t bet in pool winning the league
for us it should be seen as a plus to have goals coming from everywhere though a guy scoring 20+ and another one with 15+ (we have this in saka I guess) would be appreciated
Just stating facts.
Fabrizio Romano says big massive proposals will come for Isak as Arsenal will be there. Sesko the other name on the list. Liverpool will also try for Isak & have made contact with people close to the player. For Arsenal he's the absolute top target.
________________________________
Reading this, there is a real chance our business is halted depending on the outcome of the Isak chase. I really hope we're smarter than that and get an early indication of where things stand and don't allow this one transfer completely halt our summer business.
It would be a very Arsenal thing to do to put all our eggs in the Isak basket, get sent on a wild goose chase, ultimately fail to get the man, then find ourselves scrambling for scraps on deadline day
As well whilst he’s obvious a fantastic player, I’m not sure I like the idea of Arsenal spending 150m on a single player. We’ll end up with him but then a lack of quality buys in other positions.
I don’t want us ending the summer with him as CF but gaping holes on the wings for example still there.
Anyway, we’ll see what happens
Oh that wouldn't surprise me, it's amateur hour tmat the club when it comes to squad building