SLOPPY FINISHING CRISIS HITS DEPRESSING NEW PEAK

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Arsenal feels like the plot of a seriously average horror movie right now. Someone at the club did something unthinkable. They walked under a ladder, reversed over a black cat, said a trigger word into a cursed mirror 5 times, or walked over the grave of a very sick individual… because our luck has been atrocious, and the output has been this weird throwback of glorious failure.

For the 4th time this season, we’ve lost a game we shouldn’t have because of outrageous bad luck in an otherwise really good performance. I know people shape their view of performances based on results, with plenty saying that wasn’t a good performance, but by any standard, to do what we did to Liverpool in the first half was thoroughly excellent. 13 shots, 5 on target, 3 big chances, and 1.5xG

… but no goal.

It was a travesty. We came out flying. The passing was sharp, there was variety in our attack, all that talk of ARSENAL CAN’T PROGRESS THE BALL was well and truly in the bin after a one-week attempt at making it the sticking narrative.

… but no goal.

After exiting that brilliant first half, PTSD kicked in and I was feeling the dread of inevitability. Liverpool was going to punish us for our front three failings and the footballing gods were not going to intervene in this grotesque travesty.

Liverpool went from two chances in the first half without a shot on target to 1o shots, 3 on target, and 2 goals in the second.

What pains me about the collapse is Liverpool unloaded 4 subs, 2 of them were babies no one had heard of… Klopp was raising the white flag and thinking about Fulham in the League Cup. Arteta changed out Reiss Nelson for Martinelli and that was it. He left all the players flouncing around in front of goal on the pitch to find a way. They could not, and Liverpool found a way. They won a freekick in a dangerous area from a foul the ref wasn’t giving all game. TAA whipped the ball into the box and Kiwior was on had to nod it past Aaron Ramsdale.

Killer.

They weren’t done. Dias went on a meandering run and ripped a screamer into the top corner of the inside post.

Dead.

So where do we go after a game like that? To our attacking players. The team that gave us 86 goals last season hasn’t managed to score a goal from 6.47 xg over the last 3 games. It’s getting embarrassing now. Kai Havertz started as the 9 and he looked like he’d never kicked a ball when he moved into the final third. Saka was dreadful all game, he is clearly cooked. Reiss Nelson just isn’t at the level, he is absolutely brilliant at looking great doing very little. He should have scored inside 2 minutes and made it a very different game. Odegaard hit the bar. Martinelli had no end product when he came on.

It was a disaster. We lack a killer. Arsenal have 6 players who have all lost their guts in front of goal at the same time. It’s not good enough.

Fans want a striker right now… anyone. It’s not going to happen. We don’t have infinite cash and the fans that bang the table the loudest for deals NOW are those that will be calling Edu a bum in 6 months when the hot name of the moment is a total fraud. We have specific needs, not many strikers can do what we need, the best deals are available in the summer. Stating that we should go hard at Brentford or whichever club has a player we want negates the fact that if teams are competing, they don’t sell. If they are failing, they don’t sell. If they are in the middle, they’ll want to stay there, so they don’t sell.

Arteta has to coach his way out of this one. This is a confidence crisis that is underpinned by the right fundamentals.

  1. The team is playing great football
  2. The team is creating a lot of good chances
  3. We are conceding very few
  4. The issue is the form of ALL of our players

If you have good form and you keep doing things right, eventually results will follow.

So you have two choices, you think our players don’t have another gear in front of goal, and this failure right now is us for the season.

Or, you understand that form is temporary, and class is permanent.

We’ve had one bad game in 6 weeks. We’ve had some terrible results in that period. There has been no luck. We conceded 2 goals from 3 shots on target today. 2 goals from 4 shots on target against Fulham. 2 goals off 3 on target against West Ham. That’s 6 goals off ten shots on target. We have taken 63 shots over those three games and recorded 0 goals.

I’m telling you, the tide will turn, players will return to form, and we’ll go on a tear in the back half of the season.

Losing three games in a row make you angry and it’s a struggle to see the light. There’s plenty of light to be had at Arsenal. We just need a spark in front of goal and the freak luck other clubs are having in our penalty box needs to stop.

This is a rough patch. It’s the pain we knew we’d go through. We just have to ride it out.

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Spanishdave

David good comment.
Arteta will hide behind injuries being the problem but every manager has those.
Timber was bad luck or was it due to overtraining in pre season.
Dutch players use the ball to do the work and not their legs.
We have so many crap players in our squad so it reflects sorely on our recruitment so it over to Edu who is pathetic and lazy
Our scouting is poor and we seem to overpay dross like Nelson on 100 k week
Our club standards are poor and nothing is dynamic.

Pierre

Imagine if it had been jesus who had started the season and we were sitting top of the league after winning 7 , losing 1 and drawing 1., with jesus scoring 5 goals living off scraps, and then Arteta dropped jesus for Eddie and despite the team creating double the chances as earlier in the season we struggled to find the back of the net and we dropped down to 4th position in the league .. Eddie would have been slaughtered for destroying our season , the blame would have been laid completely at his door …100% . Eddie has… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Pedro The facts are that Arsenal’s performance level this season is below that of how we played for most of llast season. Despite this Arsenal were still in the frame with top position in the EPL at Christmas. However, since then our season has gone “pear shaped” with defeats from West Ham, Fulham and yesterday Liverpool. The reality is that Arsenal have two positions on the pitch which are now our achilles heel. 1. The Centre Forward position is most definitely a weak link. Jesus is constantly injured, Nketiah is not performing to a level expected of a striker playing… Read more »

Rich

Reputable reports that Arsenal are in for Onana £50 million.

Pierre

Too many getting their knickers in a twist over a few defeats , it’s not as if we have been played off the park is it…

The goals will come , the performances except for the fulham game have been good , we will beat liverpool in a few weeks time, City will drop points and by February there will be nothing in it, people need to chill out and not press the panic button…..it’s pathetic.

Dom B.

Good post Pedro. Only thing that I disagree with, and which is a major weakness overall for Mikel, is that for example, to me Nelson is a class player. Expecting him to deliver, especially in front of goal (after 2 mins as you say) is all well, but if your manager shows by his actions that he doesn’t believe in you, then you lack cojones to put that ball in the net. He gives peanuts of minutes to all players that don’t fit his scheme (and basically he likes his starting 11, plus Tross and Jorgi who he likes only… Read more »

Rich

Well said Pierre.

CG

£100 million = Bellingham
£50 million – Onana?

(Doesn’t score enough goals for the money.)

Mike

If Arsenal fail to qualify for Champions League football next year, Arteta would have gotten Arsenal a Champions League place only once in his 5 years in charge. He would have spent over half a billion pounds on buying players he wanted ( there are some who claim it’s more like three quarters of a billion pounds but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt ). It would also be three consecutive major bottle jobs & expensive ones at that too. Both Wenger & Emery were sacked for less. Arteta should be held to the same standards as befell… Read more »

Terraloon

No matter how you try to mitigate the results at the end of the day all that matters is as we all know is the final score line. It’s pretty obvious that many players are significantly out of form or shall we say not able to reach the levels they have previously. The trouble with the old “Form is temporary, class is permanent “ is as quality of performance drop so does the players confidence and some players will never hit the heights they did when breaking through or getting a new club bump. For me a couple of the… Read more »

Matt

Can we talk about how badly we need Ben White out of the team yet?? Complete liability. His petulant shove on Curtis Jones in the first half could have easily led to a goal when you have someone like TAA delivering (it was pretty much the exact position they ended up scoring from in the second half). He did it because Curtis Jones easily got the better of him in the tackle beforehand. The guys is so average it’s scary, yet he seems to have some sort of cult like following from many who think he is one of our… Read more »

Jaroda

Raptora, nice sentiment but it doesn’t give any context to the opposition we were facing, i.e. the best team in the country on current form and that our form has been lacking the past two games and could have done with a boost. The other teams below were playing pub teams and Liverpool didn’t care if they won as they had a EFL two leg semi-final to factor in. Liverpool basically wanted us to win but after we failed to put the ball in the net they said ‘oh to hell with this, we don’t want a replay’ and decided… Read more »

Mikel Coneteta

Freddie Inverted Fb’s is an Arteta ideology, no incoming #8 last summer was changing that approach. I fully agree Havertz could’ve been replaced by a better player, but again, I’m less critical of making the wrong move as much as I’m critical of making NO moves. Guys like Tierney, Lokonga, Tavares should’ve been sold, and fringe players like Eddie, Nelson, Vieira, ESR should’ve been turned over for fresh blood. If not all, then certainly most. That inactivity is being papered over massively by the fact Havertz hasn’t banged as much as *insert fave alternative*. I wanted MacAllister above all there… Read more »

Pierre

Stroller
“Nketiah is not performing to a level expected of a striker playing for a top team”

You’re not wrong , though of course it’s very difficult to perform when you have been sitting on the bench for the last few months , though he did manage to score AWAY at PSV in a rare start..

Paulie

Fucking hell we actually still have people praising nkethia. The guys been useless for years. No other team ever seriously bids for him because he’s useless. Some guy on here said he’s not to blame because he doesn’t start. Ffs he doesn’t start because he’s useless and when he does come on he never scores. Can you imagine klopp or pep putting up with a player like nkethia and constantly praising him for being a failure. He’s not good enough in fact nowhere near good enough so why the hell is he still at the club. One of the days… Read more »

Chris

It’s all because of Saka’s haircut. He has to go back to black hair. Brazil do this every 4 years, and lose World Cup that way. And look what happenned to Rashford this season.

Terraloon

Spanner. Was talking to a Chelsea fan on a plane recently. He said they were so happy to be shot of Kai and Jorgi and couldn’t believe Arsenal had bought them. The pair of them slowed the team down so much they became utterly predictable and boring. My brother hasn’t be out the country for two years but had it was he you had been speaking to him would have said the exact same thing as would every one of the group he attends other than selling to a rival they couldn’t believe any competent club would have signed off… Read more »

Foxy

Pierre the great disparity between Odegaard’s assist rate last season and this is it clearly correlated to the speed we move the ball forward e.g. did last season he receive the ball and then release it earlier to players on the move in space rather than static.

Davey

This is not a knee jerk reaction to the last 3 games we haven’t been clinical for years now and everyone can see our 1st and 2nd choice strikers aren’t up to it apart from the all knowing Spanish one who thinks the goals can be shared out and bore us all with over elaborate football. We have managed to get away with it this season up till now. His stubborn ways will destroy us and Wenger 2 is in the making.

Spanishdave

Nketiah according to Pierre is on the same level as Messi.
He’s a wonder striker with an amazing record of almost a goal per game.
The rest of us who live in the real world know he is crap , but heh ho he gets 100 k per week and can’t believe his luck .
We are so poor up front it’s embarrassing.
Other teams now closely mark our wingers and can go forward with the knowledge that they can our score us.
Arteta is poor reflected in the team’s performance ,

Terraloon

Jarroda Raptora, nice sentiment but it doesn’t give any context to the opposition we were facing, i.e. the best team in the country on current form and that our form has been lacking the past two games and could have done with a boost. The other teams below were playing pub teams and Liverpool didn’t care if they won as they had a EFL two leg semi-final to factor in. Liverpool basically wanted us to win but after we failed to put the ball in the net they said ‘oh to hell with this, we don’t want a replay’ and… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

So, the latest capitulation (which bear in mind started last season when we started choking the league and allowed a 12 point gap to be closed)…is down to bad luck? So the reason I’m not a billionaire is because my car washing business which I had when I was 13 wasn’t sold to a conglomerate that made me Jeff Bezos rich. That’s got to be bad luck, right. It’s not luck. You can be unlucky, per se, but ultimately you draw a line to straight up incompetence. Arsenal have a multimillion pound squad, £800m to be precise if you want… Read more »

Ernest Reed

Perhaps last seasons goal output was, in fact, the anomaly? Methinks this may actually be the case and the club, from an offensive point of view, have reverted back to true form.

NORG

GoH

Another few weeks of poor results will start the alarm bells ringing in Columbus. Stan will react – not because he is serial winner but because he will want to be on the big table when discussing Super League business. Stan doesnt believe in luck – he makes it.

Marko

Again by and large the football isn’t great. It’s easy to say it after yesterday but keep mum after some of the other recent slow ponderous play we’ve seen.

None of this makes Arteta any less guilty btw. It’s his tactics his formation his in-game management and his dumb ass that thought it was a good idea to spend a lot of money on Havertz and not to mention his dumb ass that is currently procrastinating on selling the likes of Nketiah or ESR or Partey.

Marko

Also it blows my mind that after 4+ years more isn’t made of his atrocious subs and in-game management. Liverpool were gaining momentum and he did absolutely nothing it’s like he was waiting for them to score before he made a sub but even then he waited longer. And to bring on ESR and Trossard in the 87th minute just reeks of cluelessness

NORG

Marko

cluelessness = desperation

allezkev

Good post Pedro…

MidWest:
Xhaka left because he wanted to leave and return to Germany with his young family. It had nothing to do with Havertz and I guess we’ll never know if Arteta would have even signed Kai if Xhaka would have stayed?

Batistuta

Since winning the competition in 2019/20, Arsenal have failed to make it past the fourth round of the FA Cup in each of the last four seasons:

◎ 2020/21: Fourth round
◉ 2021/22: Third round
◎ 2022/23: Fourth round
◉ 2023/24: Third round

And they failed to score in every defeat

psuedo warrior

I thought Arteta had it in him to take us to the next level. But his shocking squad management has me doubting.

You don’t win diddly squat with having a ‘favouritez’ list of 13 players. When every other team and every other manager is working with a squad of 20

raptora

Rumours that our interest in Onana is serious by very decent ITKs. Expectations are he’s worth around £50m. We’ll need to sell to get him in.

How wonderful… Another DM in addition to Rice, Partey, Jorgi and Elneny. Maybe we’ll sell Partey to fund Onana?! Imagine selling ESR + Partey to raise money for Onana… I hope not.

psuedo warrior

Also look at his midfield signings

Vieira
Lokonga
Jorginho
Havertz

How much money have we thrown away

psuedo warrior

Onana would be another shocking signing

Dissenter

Luteo put up a very interesting about the Kroenke’s relationship with managers of the sporting franchises. Once the Kroenke’s agree on a manager, they develop a relationship with the said manager and keep him for a long time. They are going to support Mikel Arteta with another big spend in the summer, regardless of what we think. That’s how they do business. That’s why the left Wenger in power for so long. Arteta is the man the club has built the rebuild upon. They knew he was green when they got him and have factored in his mistakes [too many… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Pierre Nketiah has started in 10 games this season in EPL. He has scored 4 goals in those games including the three against Sheffield United. Bluntly Sheffield United are a Championship League standard team. So his goals from 9 EPL starts is just one.That is simply not good enough for a striker playing for Arsenal. That is his problem. He is no longer a spring chicken who needs to be given time to prove his case. My only criticism is that rumours circulated in January that he could be up for sale. Frankly that has not helped and it is… Read more »

Rich

I have no idea if Onana is the right move, but moving away from Partey certainly is. I’d be open to moving away from Smith Rowe as well. Would have loved Caicedo…. But since that’s now off the menu, we’re unlikely to replace Partey with a player who’s immediately at his level. But we can hopefully secure one with better levels of availability, who we can develop to a very good level. It’s unlikely to be a completely smooth transition, but it’s not like we’ve extracted much value yet from Partey this season, and it’s a transition we need to… Read more »

Marko

The goal of this season is to beat Villa and Spurs to 3rd place.

You’re just saying shit at this point. Are you telling me that after finishing second and spending over 200 million on players that 3rd was the goal? No no moving of the goalposts I’m afraid a title challenge is and was always the goal. Delusional to think otherwise

Madhu

Diss, Kreonke’s left Wenger for so long because they were uninteresting in doing anything till they got complete control of the club, which they did it in 2018 and then sacked Wenger. They kept Emery for 18 months and sacked the entire hierarchy due to mis management at all levels. Lets see what they do with Arteta and Edu. Also we dont seem to see any murmur on the potential CEO choices as Vinai is leaving. I dont see anything being done till the new CEO arrives. Once he arrives depending on what type of CEO they choose, we can… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Onana may well be a “long term” project for Arsenal, but he is hardly solving our current weaknesses.
He is not going to score goals and he is not as far as I am aware a left back.

He is of course a decent player if he becomes available at a reasonable price.

Marko

Also given the Onana links once again I wouldn’t trust these fuckers to turn things around again. Crying out for some forwards and a LB like you wouldn’t believe and the first thing you do is look at a DM…not even an 8. It’s going to be like the previous few windows where we end up not addressing the same issues and kick the can down the road for another day

Olumide

Teraloon There are many Chelsea fans here and I’ve not seen one who is sorry that Chelsea sold Havertz. On the contrary, they’re happy he’s gone. The funny thing is that even Chelsea fans wonder why we bought Havertz and at that price. Thinking about it now, I think the Havertz purchase showed Arteta was under no pressure at Arsenal. Coaches who need to win things every year don’t take such silly risks. I mean, even Guardiola wouldn’t take that Havertz risk at £65 million. He would want a player close to certainty at that price. We bought Havertz for… Read more »

Olumide

I remember when Arsenal bought Ben White for 50 million when we already had Saliba. Then, Arteta gave him Saliba’s number 4. Some of us complained White wasn’t worth that much but we were tagged “negative” fans. And Saliba was better than White, even at that time. Now those negative fans are right because Saliba is playing ahead of White. White’s salary over his 5-year contract is 31 million. That’s another £80 million. Added to Havertz, that’s over £200 million spent poorly. When you add Fabio Vieira, Lokonga, Pablo Mari, Cedric Soares, Wilian, you’ll find that Arteta has spent at… Read more »

Tom

“Since winning the competition in 2019/20, Arsenal have failed to make it past the fourth round of the FA Cup in each of the last four seasons:◎ 2020/21: Fourth round
◉ 2021/22: Third round
◎ 2022/23: Fourth round
◉ 2023/24: Third round And they failed to score in every defeat“

Considering the above and the fact Arteta has won his only trophy with Wenger era players, we might as well chock up the last FA cup trophy to Wenger then.
Any objections?
Didn’t think so.

Olatunde

Arteta has won nothing. The fa cup was won by Auba and Martinez, two players he humiliated out of Arsenal. He doesn’t have it in him to win cup competition because he doesn’t know how to read games and make the right tactical changes. Couple with the fact that we don’t have a goalkeeper confident enough should it go into penalty shout-out. His coaching ability is also overated. Infact almost all players regressed under him. Xhaka’s case was a case of finding the right midfield partner in partey. When Partey was injured last season xhaka was found wanting and this… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

I wanted Onana before he went to Everton, as a backup for Partey at not too high a price. He’s been very good for them but I’m not sure he’s what we need now unless we’re giving up on the 2 8s and we’re going double pivot. He’s a defensive monster and very good with his head, can also drive forward and score some goals but his passing isn’t the best so a double pivot of him and Rice would be insane defensively but not at progressing the ball. Spending 50m on a backup DM, when we have 4 players… Read more »

Mikel Coneteta

Onana does nothing for our goal scoring, but he allows Havertz to play as the false 9 without losing legs in the midfield. So could be a creative fix if we aren’t going for a striker this Jan.

In fact his athleticism would be a welcome boost to a midfield that’s losing Partey, Jorginho, and Elneny in the next 6 months.

Doesn’t move me though.

Dissenter

Marko
I wasn’t implying that that was the goal at the start of the season
I’m saying, based on what has transpired the league title race is over. We can salvage the season by alt least returning to the CL.

Dissenter

Madhu
Good point about the CEO changes but honestly i suspect that Vinai was CEO in name only. The Kroenkes had their UK attorney running stuff in the background.
Josh Kroenke is the defacto CEO

Graham62

This just becomes even more embarrassing.

Pedro, can you please answer the following question.

Where, in your analytical data world, does it show that MA is a top coach? Where is the actual proof?

Graham62

Olatunde

Very good post.

Guns of Hackney

Graham. It doesn’t. Because it can’t. Because Arteta isn’t the manager we hoped he’d be. I know we’re in the era of analytics for almost everything but, and I said this during the game and after it and for the last decade on this site: goals count. That’s the ONLY metric that matters in a points or goals based sport. Simple. Cycling for example is very data driven and incredibly accurate when looking at data etc but…cycling, especially the Grand Tours can be won by not actually winning a stage. It’s a time sport. But all sports that have a… Read more »

Thorough

Olatunde Agree with majority of what you said but “Partey hasn’t been the same player without xhaka…” That’s 100% incorrect. Partey is a one-man wrecking ball. His best game was probably our win against Man U at old Trafford. Guess who played alongside him? Elneny. Just few minutes against Man City earlier in the season and he looked better than everybody in that team and even initiated our goal. The only problem with Partey is (Un)availability. Why we have not taken it serious and tried something unusual a la what Tottenham tried with Ledley King I don’t know. This player… Read more »

Dissenter

There are lots of strong reactions against Arteta in goonerland I don’t think it’s an overreaction to a rough patch. It’s pent up anger at a manager who has not been farid to make big decisions, some of those decisions have been quite dumb, in retrospect. Selecting Pablo Mari and Mustafi ahead of Saliba in 2020 was a 5-star error but he was bailed out by the lad’s magnanimity. He was bailed out because the lad saw Arteta’s error as a building block. Letting go of Emi Martinez, who’s a solid international goalie for 17 million and then running through… Read more »

Dissenter

*It’s pent up anger at a manager who has not been afraid to make big decisions, some of those decisions have been quite dumb, in retrospect.

Guns of Hackney

No one should be able to defend Arteta anymore. Certainly not if you want Arsenal to win again.

Which brings me back to my original point. Fanbase is lame.

I loved Arsene. He’s our greatest manager ever. But the bunker years were bad and I wanted him gone. And that’s okay. Because he was affecting the team and club. Now he’s gone, he’s still a legend because he created a dynasty.

Arteta hasn’t got the love because he hasn’t earned it. He should be gone. Now.

benkind

Arteta is supposed to be this generational coach. Yet let us judge him as a coach we are called negative. 1 trophy in 4.5 years. People say he made us better, it is madness. we came 8th and 8th and 5th and 2nd. Arteta made us worse and then improved on his own failures. Let us not get it twisted. Klopp changed his forward line in the 2nd half. Shearer was asking yesterday why our front 3 weren’t changing positon. Klopp moved his front 3 in second half and it was a masterstroke. They started playing differently. Klopp introduced 2… Read more »

Un

Diss

It is a bit of an overreaction
I have my views on what I think holds him back but we are a better team now than we have been since rvp was at the club
We are whipping teams in the champions league without breaking a sweat
It’s an overreaction by people who feel entitled or vindicated

Spanishdave

Arteta is not a top coach, he’s won nothing not even the league cup.
We used to own the FA cup being regular finalists, now look at us.
Last year we had a great chance and then collapse, we started wining again when it was too late.
So it screams that Arteta couldn’t take the pressure when needed.
By not using talented youth players tells us everything, he’s a choker.
He hasn’t got what it takes, he just buys players, hoping.
Edu is useless tosser

Guns of SF

Onana might help us with allowing Ode and Rice to push forward more in attack.
A double pivot with Rice could work against teams like Pool or City

Un

DissenterJanuary 8, 2024 15:48:52 Marko I wasn’t implying that that was the goal at the start of the season I’m saying, based on what has transpired the league title race is over. We can salvage the season by alt least returning to the CL. Nonsense We can still win the title We obliterated Liverpool for 45 mins This team has the ability to beat Liverpool more than Liverpool has the ability t beat us We dominated them Wha this team needs is belief and I don’t think Arteta is great at unleashing that in players struggling with doubt Hire wenger… Read more »

Guns of SF

again the issue is not having a striker that scores goals.
The elephant in the room.

Not sure how Mike coaches more goals. He has shown ( bar last season) that scoring is not a forte of his. Never was a player either.

Leads to the question about who is going to help him? Not the yes men. Who?

Spanishdave

Liverpool beat us didn’t they?
We hav’nt beaten them over the past three attempts, and last year we were 2nil up!!
We are done for this season and will struggle to get 4th.
Two home games now without scoring.

rollen

There is a bit of poor finishing but the fault is 90% with Arteta shit system and luck on motivation skills. Create good chance for Odegard SakaMarti even Eddie and it’s more likely goal. All this CG is little garbage, we didn’t create any clear easy chance in forever, it’s all this silly fancy low percentage half chanced adding up to big CG numbers. It a lie. Arteta got find out big time and it’s unable to change. It’s over for him. Accept that Pedro. Marti and Saka are pushed to the line and double up making them ineffective. Odegard… Read more »

Guns of SF

If this slide continues, I can forsee the players downing tools. I dont think they will but I dont think a lot of the team is happy. Clearly not any bench player and Ode, Kai, Saka, Marti dont look as spirited.

The only thing missing is a the killer striker. Other than that, I think that Mike has taken the team as far as it can. A new coach might incorporate our bench more, and get us firing. I have serious doubts about Mike A.

Spanishdave

Guns
Wenger to the rescue?
Joke Monday

rollen

Edu should be a chief scout for South America.
Real CEO hired. Top proven manager on the up hired.
Goalkeeper coach fired ASAP. Transfer people all fired.
This club is one of the worst managed clubs at the top.

rollen

Players don’t love Arteta. He is average disciplinarian coach. He did fairy well at clean up and rebuild but has no clue what to do now.
Josh needs to do something or we will be back to late Wenger situation in 2 years.

Madhu

Rollen :
Edu should be a chief scout for South America.
Real CEO hired. Top proven manager on the up hired.
Goalkeeper coach fired ASAP. Transfer people all fired.
This club is one of the worst managed clubs at the top.

Cant argue with you on this. To say the least Arteta has been a disappointment. I vouched for him but his handling of players is just awful. I say this often Arteta coach wouldn’t have played Arteta the player and would have binned him.

Un

Cor rollen has been waiting for 3 years for this moment

Thorough

There is a very simple way to judge Arteta – by comparing him to the man before him. Emery came in and we all agreed he was bad. We conceded zillion of shots on goal. We had our heart in louth moments more often than not. He couldn’t speak good English, He didn’t get the signings he wanted because of power tussle above him, he had terrible defenders and a host of challenges that were not of his making. Yet, judging by what he produced with what he had, We quickly got rid of him. Then we went ahead and… Read more »

Thorough

Emery/Villarreal knocked us out of Europa obviously

Un

Some massive overreactions here
Bloody hell
The Fulham loss was a joke but yesterday was much batter
He changed the team
Tried something new and we looked great for it
All that was missing was goals
I was pleased with what I saw bar the poor quality in the box
Nelson martinelli and Havertz need some training
Saka needs a rest
And Odegaard needs other players to play with as right now he’s on his own as the sole creative antagonist

Guns of SF

also if we are signing Onana, who are we selling? FFP

Nigel Tufnel

Pierre made some good points about Ramsdale.
He had a good game, but when Raya made a similar error in missing a punch, there was non-stop criticism of him here.
Always agreed with dissenter on the subject though… the controversy was unnecessary, with as much to lose as to gain from the Raya signing when all was said and done.

Left Testicle

Un, are you seriously advocating Wenger as a returning coach?

Left Testicle

Madness!

Rich

Guns Talk Elneny has interest in Turkey + Middle East. That would clear up space, but wouldn’t bring in money. I like Smith Rowe, but if we’re not going to use him, there’s no value in keeping him. If we got any offers for Partey, even at £15 – £25mill.. I expect we’d just write off his book price + wages, and just move on at this stage. Arguably we could lose Cedric, Partey, Elneny, Smith Rowe, and replace 4 players with 2 new arrivals. I would still argue that a versatile right sided defender, or a versatile midfielder who… Read more »

jwl

BBC Sport –

“German legend Franz Beckenbauer, widely regarded as one of football’s greatest players, has died aged 78. He won the World Cup as captain of West Germany in 1974 and lifted the trophy again as manager in 1990.”

Guns of SF

Rich, Maybe Onana is bc TP is leaving this window or Arteta does not trust he will be back to help us. Either his rehab is not going to plan or he does not think he can stay fit. I think Onana is a good move, maybe its a loan with option to buy.. I heard Dybala has a release clause in a week or so of like 12M. While he is older, he would make good cover for Ode and has an eye for goal. Just something to consider. If scoring is our issue, getting an attacker like him… Read more »

Un

LT

I genuinely would be in favour of wenger helping coach the attacking players into a fluid unit yes
If there’s one thing he was world class at it was taking talented footballers and giving them the tools and belief to create as score goals
Why not?

Un

So have we paid 35m for raya or what? Otherwise sack that deal off

Left Testicle

No, no, no, no,
NOOOOOOOO!

Thorough

UnThe Fulham loss was a joke but yesterday was much batter
He changed the team
Tried something new and we looked great for it
All that was missing was goals.

You know that’s as ridiculous as saying” Emery’ s tenure was good all that was missing was a better defence.

What you people don’t get is that after we fix the attack Arteta will still get found out one way or another simply because he’s not just a good enough coach.

Graham62

What then makes Arteta so special ………according to Pedro
Is it because

1. He is Spanish.
2. He speaks several languages.
3. He speaks very well. Yes, he definitely has the gift of the gab.
4. He looks smart.
5. He is ex-Arsenal and played under Wenger.
6. He worked under Pep.
7. He won the FA Cup during Covid, with no supporters in the stadium.
8. He helped us finish runners up last season, when in fact we could and should have done so much better.

Am I nitpicking?

You tell me!

Rich

Un

The Raya deal has apparently already been agreed, we paid £3 million loan fee, and £27 million guaranteed next summer.

Graham62

When Martinelli came on, we all knew where he was going to play.
Klopp knew it, the Liverpool players knew it.
It’s a cup game, a knockout competition.
Why couldn’t he stick him down the middle……just to throw a spanner in the works?

NORG

When Martinelli came on, we all knew where he was going to play.
Klopp knew it, the Liverpool players knew it.
It’s a cup game, a knockout competition.
Why couldn’t he stick him down the middle……just to throw a spanner in the works?

because that is common sense. Perhaps Arteta needs to take up chess.

NORG

G62

because that is common sense. Perhaps Arteta needs to take up chess.

Un

Thorough
Emery failed to qualify for chaps league then left us in 11th place for Arteta to take over
He was being sighed at by players and fans
This arsenal team was 5 points off treble winning city with a monster 50 goal striker in its ranks

Apples and oranges lad

Marko

This team has the ability to beat Liverpool more than Liverpool has the ability t beat us

…oh jeez

Rich

Emery left us in 8th place, 1 point off 5th, 8 points off 4th. We finished 8th in 2019/20, 6 points off 5th, and 10 points off 4th. We were still 8th at the end of 2020/21, 5 points off 5th, 6 points off 4th. There’s legitimate reasons for that… Emery was handed a losing hand, Emery didn’t fail at Arsenal, Arsenal failed Emery. Arteta inherited the train-wreck from him, it was always going to take time + investment to turn things around. . Had there been fans in the stadium in Dec 2020, Arteta may not have survived…. Thankfully… Read more »

Spanishdave

Graham you mustn’t fall into the trap that Arteta has football knowledge
He is one dimensional and it shows.
His use of subs is appalling

Terraloon

Rich The Raya deal is a strange one that is unless the cash just wasn’t there. If you sign a player on loan( without an obligation to buy) for FFP purposes any amortisation that remains transfers to the new club. So in the case of Raya Arsenal it would just be a few hundred thousand £s if the loan isn’t an obligation to buy but if reports are correct there is an obligation to buy meaning that the agreed fee that Brentford will receive £30 ish million will form the basis of any amortisation charge from the day the loan… Read more »

Shaun

Who coaches are strikers in finding the back of the net. I’d suggest taking Alan Smith and TH or IW ro the warm weather training camp. Havertz needs to spend 50 % on the trip learning to head the ball and the other 50% learning how to shoot on target along with the other forwards, suspect or they will do is form circles practicing their 5 yard passing.

Dissenter

Un
You think we can still win the league?

Wake up and smell the coffee
Preserve your emotional energies
Our emphasis right now is scoring a goal from open play and winning one game…at a time.

Winning the league????

Dissenter

I think there’s a fundamental problem with coaching
The players don’t fully know what they are doing.
I have seen players occupy the same space and run into one another, to many times this season
That Dubai break couldn’t have come at a better time. .

CG

Arsenal want a proven CEO- get the outgoing Dortmund one.

Arsenal want a proven manager – get ZZ.

Stop faffing around with wannabes.

Guns of SF

Damn Onana is 6’4

Rich

Of course we can win the league, we’re not favourites, but we’re still in with a shot. Think we’ll need to do some minor adjustments this month though… And not necessarily in the forward line like many seem to think. I’d be open to that… But the 2 areas of the squad I posted above, are by far our biggest squad weaknesses. In theory we have Partey, Tomiyasu, Smith Rowe… But that wouldn’t fill me with confidence, if we had to rely on those players to string a few consecutive games together if circumstances dictate. A powerful + versatile winger… Read more »

Mikel Coneteta

Dissenter does it not get boring being such an empty sack all the time? We’re 5 points off top spot after a horrendous run of results. The fact you’re throwing the towel in when Liverpool visit us Feb 4th in the league is evidence that the oddest of fans exist online. Genuinely don’t know what you’re even bothering to following Arsenal for if you’re writing off the season from the current position. CL knockouts and within spitting distance of top spot after we’ve shit the bed for almost all December and your arse has well and truly gone. Can assume… Read more »