EMILE SMITH ROWE – SHOP WINDOW OR LEFT #8 AUDITION?

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Happy Boxing day to you ALL!

How was your Christmas? We had a good one. My brother and dad bullied me back into UK drinking habits and I am feeling the pain. Brits never stop, they don’t forgive fly-tipping, and they move at Martinelli-like speed on the drinks. Tough comeback for me.

Gotta say, personally, going to Boxing Day games has never been my cup of tea. The games feel like a bloated hangover; no one is really in the mood, and you can end up with some unfestive moments. Like Newcastle having trouble with Forest right now (2-1 down after a great finish from Chris Wood).

I’m happy to watch others fall to those moments today. Villa vs United could be very spicy. EtH under huge pressure, Unai Emery on top of the world… it’ll be very interesting to see if there’s has a new ownership bounce. We’ll talk about that Radcliffe deal at another date, seems very interesting, though not particularly game-changing.

Arsenal news is in short supply at the minute. We have some problems to deal with. Kai Havertz is out injured, so there are some decisions to be made against West Ham.

My heart says this would be a great moment to bring Emile Smith Rowe into the mixer. He’s been sitting on our bench for a few games now, he’s perfect for a team that’ll defend hard, and try to constrict space. Emile, at his best, is an output monster, and we’d all love to see if he can do what Granit and Kai have showed us over the last year. I’d love him to be the deputy there.

However, my head says Arteta is finished with him and he’ll go with Trossard there again. Emile is great fodder for FFP numbers because he’s pure profit.

That’s part of my issue. Arteta has to play the best team he has available, but I do wish he’d sometimes consider the transfer value of players he crashes when perfectly acceptable players land on his shitlist. Emile was a £55m player 3 seasons ago. Now we’d be lucky to get £25m for him. A crime when you consider the output Hojland and Antony have between them, but par the course in a league that doesn’t value players that can actually do it at the highest level.

Still, can’t be too harsh. Everyone knows the Emile issues are about availability. He can’t string a month together. So he can’t be part of our squad. I’ll be gutted when he goes, but injury issues don’t get better with age, and he has been plagued with them his whole career.

It’ll also be interesting to see if there are any other rotations in the offing. Rumors keep circling that Thomas Partey is going to be ready, they all tend to come from the same guy who is guessing with authority online (poorly). Partey had barely trained before last week. I’d be surprised to see him put in the team before the break. Quite mad that he will have sat out the first half of the season, but he’ll no doubt play every game of a successful Ghana campaign at AFCON. When will Asia and Africa bring their comps back onto a more global calendar?

Back to Partey. Better bet for Arsenal would be to bring him back after the international competition and make sure he heads there in pristine condition. We’ll wait to see whether that happens. Same with Tomiyasu who could technically rejoin the squad early, but the question is whether it’s worth risking him for games we should win. The long game is Partey and Tomi for the run-in… don’t do anything to jeopardize that would be my vision.

This West Han game will be a feisty one. Arteta vs Moyes is always a good father vs son joust. We also have the Declan vs the club the birthed him a career at the highest level. I’d love him to get a rest, but no chance that happens in a game he’ll want to be part of.

After getting such a great result at Anfield, it’s important not to blow that point by failing against a West Ham team that can be got at. They’ve conceded 30 so far this season, but it is important to note that they’re equal points against Newcastle (as of 60 minutes against Forest). That’s pretty decent.

You also have to look at their team. Bowen has the same goals as Salah this season and looks on fire. They have Kudus and Paqueta in their starting 11. Two absolutely outstanding players that signify the strength of the league. Then you have Moyes, a manager who just gets the job done.

We should have enough in a home game. I’m heading in for this one. I can’t wait for it. It was the friendliest London derby of the lot until the summer when West Ham fans slandered us and pined for their best player in a generation to go to Manchester City.

Arsenal has to deliver retribution for those harsh words online. We have to show them why we’re the biggest show in the Premier League right now. We also have to protect my feelings by staying ahead of Unai Emery who will probably destroy a very, very damaged United side this evening.

Right, short one today. Get on the podcast.

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Luteo Guenreira

“The post is not about Arsenal losing.
It’s about Arsenal fans’ double standards and inconsistencies.”

I don’t know how fucking stupid you have to be to lump literally millions of people into a box and think you’re making a great point. Yes I’m sure you’ve tracked all of our opinions and inconsistencies before you made such an asinine declaration.

Omozuafo Frank

Losing 0-2 at home to West Ham is not a good result. A good striker is needed this January but the problem is that our coach will dilly dally until the available ones are bought by other coaches. The team needed to be improved upon. The earlier the better.

Siddeeq

Nokia CEO ended his speech saying this “we didn’t do anything wrong, but somehow, we lost”.

He sounds like an Arsenal fan.

Emiratesstroller

ROTATION Our preferred team is beginning to look stale. Both Martinelli and Saka in particular are being overplayed. GOALKEEPER Is Raya seriously an upgrade on Ramsdale? I have seen absolutely nothing sofar to confirm this. ZINCHENKO A fine footballer, but most definitely a weak link in our backline. JESUS & NKETIAH Arsenal’s strikeforce is not producing end product required of a centre forward in a team of Arsenal’s calibre. LONDON PROBLEM We have drawn against Fulham, Chelsea, Spurs and now lost against West Ham. That is now 9 points dropped against London Teams. More importantly we have conceded EIGHT GOALS… Read more »

TR7

Conteta Arsenal had more than 70 touches in the opposition box and failed to score with Jesus, Martinelli and Saka and the West Ham game was not even a one off. Our front 3 particularly Martinelli and Jesus as a striker have really struggled to take their chances. And we have been talking about Martinelli’s poor performances for months on end and how Jesus doesn’t have a presence in the box or clinical finishing. So yeah a bit strange to pin the blame on Emile who got only 10 mins and did well unless you are specifically talking about his… Read more »

Thierry Martinelli

Let’s loan in 2 players in Jan. A striker and a LB to help Zinch.

Samuel

Well that was depressing

Aasim

We’re not better than last season. We may have a better field tilt, but that’s about it. Fewer goals scored, more conceded, fewer points, and most pointedly, we just don’t look fluent in our play. We can’t seem to create. We don’t play through the middle. Our play has the same predictable patterns of passing wide and the opposition always overloads and blocks our way into the central areas, once we have the ball on the wings. We still continuously, allow Zinchenko to leak goals. The guy is a fuckin liability. We still don’t look penetrative enough because we don’t… Read more »

Olumide

TR7
If Martinelli is good enough for Arsenal then for sure Emile is.
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Well said.
I think Arteta doesn’t trust his fringe players enough. And many have complained about it this season.

If we were 2 or 3 goals ahead yesterday, his subs would probably come later in the game.

If we don’t give players experience when winning games, where will they get the experience to help when losing?

I think Arteta just settles on a first 11 and rarely takes any risk with it. If you’re not in the first 11, good luck getting minutes.

CG

Man City got shot of Arteta, Jesus and Zinchenko and then went onto win the treble, that’s the reality. I put all x 3 in the same category. All about 6 out of 10, all well short of top quality. Artetas coaching ceiling has been reached. We don’ t score enough goals. Newcastle/Villa/West Ham = zero goals. Brentford and Liverpool = 1 [ either first few minutes or last] And if Rice ain’t firing on all cylinders , we look nondescript and even more bereft. As for the other idiot, Edu. I ll give him 1/10 – and that’s being… Read more »

Samesong

“I congratulate West Ham and praise my players. That’s what I can tell you,” he said. “This is football. When you look at how much we generated in the game, to see the result is very disappointing. But they were better than us in both boxes. They had two shots, with the penalty three. We had 30. If we don’t score with 30 shots, then we have to do 50 or 60 to try to score. That’s the only thing. “I can’t imagine a game where we have more touches in the box, more dominance and less situations for the… Read more »

Jim Furnell

For at least 18 months there have been so many comments on here about Arteta’s inability to manage squad rotation, his insistence in playing individuals until they break, and continuing to select players who have clearly lost form. And all this with about the third highest spend on new players during that period. He’s not developed his squad management skills at all and this will be the greatest barrier to us winning anything significant.

Kegunner

Farce of modern football. The better team lost. This is no longer sport but winner takes all.

goona

@Jim, I agree! No change in tactics week in week out, regardless of who we play against- makes us predictable for the other side, hence they all play the same way against us! It doesn’t matter we have 80+% possession every game if we do eff all with it, always trying to pass the ball into the net, even when we are in the oppositions penalty box its always just one more touch, no one taking the responsibility of having a go from outside the box. Even 0-2 down last night no change in the tactics for the last 20mins..… Read more »

Kegunner

Even chance and luck in between that is sport.

Samesong

Who remembers when the coach when you were younger said to do all those drag backs and back heels when you’re winning the game and comfortable? 2-0 down and players are doing that was embarrassing.

Kegunner

Better off bird watching or some other pursuit.

Foxy

This game was surely ideal to have played Trossard wide left where his quick feet and clever decision making tends to make him far more effective against the low block than an off form Martinelli who needs more space to operate in. Zini or ESR could then have slotted in at no8 where they are better suited to than Trossard, who is physically too lightweight for a midfield role.

Madhu

Iam with gooners who have questions on Arteta squad management. Arteta is paid to manage the squad and not first 11. If he thinks others in squad are not good enough the he is at fault. By the way majority of players improve by playing football on pitch in competitive matches . So unless you try Nelson, ESR , Trossard etc and give them enough minutes and consider them as viable alternatives to the front 3 then you will never know. Playing with good players in competitive matches improves the players. That’s a fact and history shows us that. I… Read more »

Gazza

Solanke has more prem goals than our front 3 combined !!

Josip Skoblar

We lack a goalscorer and a world-class goalkeeper.

Josip Skoblar

‘Saka never stopped coming, hit the post, and didn’t have a bad game here. Really, this isn’t his problem to solve. It was more the lack of a proper centre-forward that hurt Arsenal against a team happy to sit deep. This is hardly a mystery story, or a devilish tactical insight. Arsenal lack a goal-bludgeon. They lack a shark. They lack an angry, selfish, horrible player who only pretends to feel ecstatic after wins in which he hasn’t personally scored. Perhaps signing one in January would bring its own problems.’
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/dec/29/arsenal-beat-out-a-tune-heard-too-often-its-time-to-sign-a-goalscorer

TitsMcGee

Raya hasn’t done anything that justifies the benching of Ramsdale
He’s the epitome of average
What does he really do?“

Maybe Ramsdale became too big for his britches? I was never a fan of Ramsdale but Raya is not an improvement.

goona

@madhu…that’s the problem isn’t it, half the 1st XI aren’t playing well week in week out but they know there is no punishment for poor performance, they’ve become complacent, and I would imagine the bench warmers are getting a tad pissed off too watching performances like yesterday knowing they will barely get a look in…

TitsMcGee

Saka is a good player (and still young) but he has stagnated and needs to add some versatility to his game. He hardly ever uses his speed and too often fluffs his chances. Needs to be more clinical if he’s going to become “ great”. As someone else said above he needs some competition or threat of losing his place to push him on I think.

TR7

Anyone who watches Arsenal week in week out can predict most of the passes and moves that our forward players make, we are that predictable at this stage. The result is we have a lot of possession but we are not dangerous.

Pierre

Goals change matches and for the 2nd time this season a ball that went over the byline was deemed not conclusive and led to the all important opening goal in both games. Arsenal started last night’s game playing superb football and then the “goal” changed the game and we huffed and puffed but couldn’t quite get the run of the ball in the box. Full credit to their keeper as everything stuck and whether his positioning was luck or judgement or poor finishing the ball always ended in his hands… I said before the game that we should rotate as… Read more »

Pierre

I’m not sure Raya has done a lot wrong since the luton game…

Matt B

We needed a left 8 and we bought Havertz.

Trossard was poor and wasn’t substituted till too late — why not start ESR 20-minutes earlier or even from the off?

Martinelli was very poor again, appears to have declined this season, so why start him?

What happened to this notion of meritocracy?

Arteta has done great, but he’s not managing the team well and last night was a case in point

Dark Hei

Wow, folks blowing off steam real hard.

May I remind you folks.

https://www.espn.com.sg/soccer/report/_/gameId/671211

Happy New Year!

SV

With the current front line, we should press more. Then, when the opponents sit back later on, we should bring on a target man or two.

We are slow in transition, making the counteratacking threat non-existent. It’s a tactical weakness which should be worked on on the training ground.

Mr Serge

I have really enjoyed the crying in here lol
MG42 I could feel the joy in your words

Super trolls out in force

Mr Serge

Calm down guys. They are still only 2 points off the top with half season gone. Let’s not get over excited. Injuries and ref decisions will be huge in this title race…

I notice the fans that don’t go to games get much more carries away with a loss than the fans that do.

Graham62

A big reality check.
Toothless for the most part.
Players looked jaded and lacking confidence.
WH played well and were physically too strong.
Declan Rice had a poor game.
Jesus………QUESTION MARK!
Not a troll, just giving honest feedback.

Graham62

Mr Serge

What was your take on the game, other than ‘let’s just forget about it’.

allezkev

December has been brutal, 7 games in 26 days, 2 defeats and no really comfortable victories, therefore Arteta cannot substitute early and give his first choice players a proper break. The players also looked tired to me yesterday, misplaced passes, no snap in the build up, too many touches on the ball instead of recycling it quickly, mental fatigue as much as anything. January should allow some time for everyone to catch their breath. It’s the halfway stage with 57 more points up for grabs, it’s when Man City come strong and we have to respond this time.

allezkev

The West Ham defence and midfield is like the Land of the Giants, no wonder most of our crosses came to nothing, we missed the height of Kai Havertz, probably in both boxes?

raptora

I think Arteta could have done much better yesterday because it was an ideal game to play conservative 45 mins, keep your powder dry and attack the game with the subs in the 2nd half. I think it made a lot of sense to start Eddie and Jorginho ahead of Jesus and Martinelli and I was 50/50 about using Reiss in place of Trossard. With Eddie ahead and a midfield of Jorgi and Rice we would have a solid midfield. The idea is: 1. to use your squad and give minutes to players that deserve to play, want to impress… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Arsenal may need to undertake a substantial rebuild of our midfield resources in the next two transfer windows. Frankly we need to have on the books at least 7-8 players in attacking and midfield positions. The following 3 players will obviously be retained. RICE ODEGAARD HAVERTZ My guess is that the following will certainly leave. PARTEY ELNENY JORGINHO Arteta will need to make a decision also on VIEIRA SMITH-ROWE From a personal perspective based on what I have seen over past two seasons Vieira is not good enough to play for us. He should also go. Arsenal are certainly not… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

For the record Nanweri was on bench yesterday and I watched him in the pre match warm up.

Mr Serge

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Graham62December 29, 2023 10:14:28
Mr SergeWhat was your take on the game, other than ‘let’s just forget about it’.

That was never my take on the game Graham
West Ham came with a game plan and stuck to it. We tied to walk it in as usual.

On another day we would have scored 5
The front 3 are pretty toothless at the moment and I would defo buy a striker and bench Martinelli.
Jesus on the left saka on the right.

Shit happens we lost and we have to bounce back on the weekend.

Madhu

Emiratesstroller – Iam with you on the need to mix academy kids with the first team. If Ethan is good enough he is old enough. But Arteta doesnt think like that and he is very rigid. Even within his first 11 he will not change much. Its a bit too much to expect him to give chances to Ethan, Lewis skelly or Lino Sosa etc. He has a set perception and idea that he will not budge from, Cant say they have been successful but thats what we got.

raptora

The game was played like a cup game and it’s literally how we’ve been kicked out of Europe and the cups in the recent years. In our losses in the FAC vs Southampton in 20/21 and Forest in 21/22, in the League Cup vs Brighton 22/23 and West Ham just a couple of months ago. in the EL vs Olympiacos in 19/20, Villarreal in 20/21 and Sporting in 22/23. It’s cup football and yesterday’s game was similar and in a similar fashion we lost. Arteta needs to find a way to deal with deep blocks. He has so many tools… Read more »

englandsbest

Just one of those nights. Umpteen chances to score but missed them all. But a mistake to say Arsenal were unlucky. West Ham deserved to win, their blanket defence stifled the Arsenal attack.

Let’s be frank, Arsenal play was predictable, it was the same thing over and over. Arsenal are still in need of a Plan B. Bringing Eddie on for second half, his relentless harassment of defenders, might have upset Moyes’s calculations. Sadly, that was Arteta’s only option.

Un

Matt B

Totally agree
Letting tierney go on loan was a mistake too
He would have been perfect for a game like yesterday.
He gives you the overlap, solid defending and a great cross early from the left. That makes us dangerous on both sides and stretches the pitch

raptora

Serge: “On another day we would have scored 5” Funny that as the overwhelming opinion during the game was that we could play another 90 mins and still not manage to score. We were so boring to watch and so toothless. Our team is levels above that of the Hammers’ team. But their plan worked. I agree that sometimes it can happen, it’s football. But if it keeps repeating over and over again that we need late late winners it’s not alright. While a lot in here were saying how winning with goals in the last minute is the sign… Read more »

Samesong

You do know Tierney injured again.

Samesong

Tierney is another injury prone player that can barely stay fit.

goona

@Raptora..
“While a lot in here were saying how winning with goals in the last minute is the sign of champions. No, it’s not. Not if you need to regularly score in the last minutes. It’s unsustainable and it’s a sign of weakness.”

100% agree, we shouldn’t be getting ourselves into that position in the first place!

Dissenter

Yesterdays loss was not even about the players It was Arteta who failed his team with the decisions that were made last summer He’s become preoccupied with this domination approach and taken us away from the things that made us successful last season. Arteta slowed us down intentionally and made it easier for teams to set up static defenses against us . The only reason why we are still relevant this season is the individual brilliance of Declan Rice as well as the solid base of the Saliba-Gabriel axis It still galls me that Arteta messed with the Gabriel-Saliba partnership;… Read more »

Dissenter

I for one, do not miss being in the first place on the table
It’s been just as uncertain as Emery’s famous run, it was masking the structural imbalances and tactical misdirection of the team.

Let’s just stay in the mix and hope we catch fire at some point.

Markymak

Some odd takes imo
Under confidence- nah they were too intricate. A sign of low confidence is to pass continuously sideways. We continuously passed forward

Boring – I personally was never bored by the play. Odegaard did some out of this world passing

VAR – Get cameras in across all angles this is now getting ridiculous.

Unlucky – not sure this applies. We should have gone for far more shots

Subs – should have taken off Martinelli half time for Reiss

Un

Same song
He played 90 mins a week ago

Markymak

Diss – I’m with you on saying goodbye to first place at the moment. It’s been achieved without any great form. So keeping in touching distance whilst hitting form is no real disadvantage

raptora

For me Martinelli is not the problem. The problem is Zinchenko. It’s simple. We need our best finishers in the box and especially with Kai out, we didn’t have the same threat from midfield – not that I’m a fan of that setup anyways where it all revolves around Kai and Odegaard as the consumers in our team. We need a left back who can overlap Marti, who will be an offensive danger, someone who will allow our LW (Marti/Jesus/Trossard) to move to the middle and get at the end of our plays. Timber is not sustainable there, he can… Read more »

Un

Rap
I agree largely but they got a jammy goal and had that not gone in then it’s a totally different game
The problem for us is that we aren’t using the tools at our disposal to breakdown a deep defence

We’ve stopped overlapping
That’s killing our wide men
We don’t make enough runs full stop
Only ESR Havertz and Saka make proper runs and 2 of them didn play yesterday bar a late 12 min cameo in which he had 2 chances and one very good run from deep
The movement is far too static

Thorough

Arsenal fans are specialists in missing the point. When west ham flogged us 3 1 earlier in the season both Kai Havertz and His Height were there and did nothing. Stop fooling yourself Kai would have changed anything in a game where a more accomplished player in Rice was left to chase shadows. The problem is Arteta. Stop beating about the fucking bush. 4 years on, 600 mil spent and what do we have: 2 average goalkeepers that would need replacing soon, a good defence with a terrible let back that’s his faborite, a midfield where our playmaker shoots like… Read more »

Un

Rap

Martinelli has been very poor on the ball
He just keeps giving it away
I agree he needs an overlap but the fact is without grass to run onto he’s pretty much useless
He’s had 2 great chances in the last 2 games and miss them both
Open goal pretty much v Liverpool and a free shot yesterday
Zinchenko had nothing to do with it

Un

Thorough
We’ve been top of the league for the majority of two years and are back in the knockouts of the CL
What are you on about

Dissenter

raptora
It is Arteta who’s drunk with an inverting left back
His tactical inflexibility and I dare say, his favoritism is why he never subjects Zinchenko to the same standard as he imposed on Ramsdale
We only play one way and it’s easier for teams to set up against us .

Its

Northbanker

My wife’s birthday yesterday so couldn’t see the game. Thank fuck for that

allezkev

Yeah Liverpool have been brilliant, they’re steaming away from everyone, Arsenal can barely hold onto their coat-tails as that 2point chasm opens up between us…

raptora

Don, We’re not playing to Marti’s strengths. A lot of us have said that Marti’s best position might be at CF one day or even today. He’s been hugging the touchline and that eliminates most of his best qualities. If Arteta wants to play with a typical winger that can take on players but is not that good in the box then Marti’s not the guy. Marti is a superb player if we can bring him centrally. Very RvP-esque in striking the ball and if he was allowed to shoot even twice a game he could develop his finishing even… Read more »

Pv4

Seems that most of you have forgotten how shit we were the last 15 years. This is the best we’ve played for years. Players who seem to want to play for the shirt , not spongers taking the piss. We haven’t even played well this season yet we’re still 2 points off the top. We’ve probably only had 4-5 games where we were shit hot. 2 points off the top with our best yet to come. and people are behaving like we’re relegation material. Some fans on here seem over entitled. When Wenger was winning things the only team he… Read more »

Thorough

Un.
Exactly. We are becoming consistent botchers.
2 seasons ago – Stfu critics, we’ve been top 4 for the better part of the season. Then Spurs overtook us.

Last season – Stfu naysayers we’re top of te league. Then we weren’t again.

This season – Stfu guys, we’re only 2 points behind. Even though we’ve spent 200mil in the summer and looked worse and al the pointers is towards the fact that we may yet fall short again.

Don’t you guys learn? Are you so immune to logic?

Siddeeq

We have been very poor since the Luton game.

We rode our luck against a poor Brighton side.

Its a familiar script every season.

raptora

Either way, Marti’s not even our biggest issue. I would mention: – unavailable players – Timber, Partey, Kai, Tomi and Fabio (yes, even Fabio); – Arteta’s unwillingness to use his squad – an old issue that is resurfacing again and yesterday it showed a lot; – tactical inflexibility which partly touches on the previous point of using the same 11; – not a single offensive player is in form, yet we’ve somehow managed to win games (Arteta, Rice, Saliba, Gabriel, Kai the main reasons). In a more detailed explanation of one or two of the points – we have two… Read more »

Muppetman

Basically most think in here we should never lose a game. If we score in the last minute it’s seen as weakness and we should’ve already been five up. Pretty sure if we were on 57 points some people would still moan!

Savage

I worry that we start sounding like United fans … every time we struggle we took about spending more money. We have the players. What Arteta did was look at last season and decide we were too leaky at the back, but unfortunately he over-corrected. He just needed to tweak it and not sacrifice too much attacking flair. Again, it just needs tweaking, rebalancing. Martinelli is struggling because our build up is too slow – he’s not a player for a crowded box, he operates in chaos. We just need to go 5 to 10% faster in our build-up, and… Read more »

raptora

Pv4: “We haven’t even played well this season yet we’re still 2 points off the top. We’ve probably only had 4-5 games where we were shit hot.”

Agreed.

Pv4: “2 points off the top with our best yet to come”

We can’t know that our best is yet to come. You’re speculating.

raptora

Muppetman: “Basically most think in here we should never lose a game.” If we wanna finish in top 4 we are in a great position. You have to understand that we want to lift the title. A slip up is allowed only once in a while. If we fuck it up a few more times it’s over. That’s the prism we should be looking through. If we want a top 4, then sure, it’s not a big deal. But for our title aspirations nights, like the one yesterday, cannot be allowed to happen often We were on 47 points with… Read more »

Siddeeq

We’re 13th for Open Play Goals in the Prem

Let that sink in!

Ernest Reed

FFP now an issue come January. Not surprising when you consider the pattern of overpaying and underselling from Edu (and Arteta). Arsenal have definitive needs for certain and other teams know and will ask for the highest return as a given. Selling to raise funds, not likely as other teams are not going to pay for players oft-injured. Does not take a genius to realize that Arsenal have a real problem and an injury or two will pretty much end a season of opportunity. Time for Arteta to start to utilize his bench more and regularly. If he keeps going… Read more »

Siddeeq

We’re 1st for the most goals in Europe from Set Pieces.

Generational football!

Thorough

And for the idiots who think this is just about yesterday, you can’t be more wrong. It’s not about one loss. It’s becoming a pattern. Arteta is confused. In 4 seasons he’s fumbled his way around with how many goalkeepers: Martinez, Leno, Runarson, Ryan, Ramsdale and now Raya. About 4 first choice goalkeepers in 4 seasons. And Raya will need changing soon. For context, I am not sure Wenger had more than 5 first choice keepers in his 20 years. Defence: He hit a jackpot with Saliba who was bought before him and he ostracized. Bought White for 50mil only… Read more »

Mikel Coneteta

You know there’s a problem when fans are claiming ESR is part of the solution and that we should’ve kept Tierney.

Both have done nothing positive in an Arsenal shirt for over 12 months and should be sold to buy someone that can. But no.. let’s try and milk the dry cow because we’re fond of it and then act surprised there’s no milk.

WengerEagle

”If we wanna finish in top 4 we are in a great position. You have to understand that we want to lift the title. A slip up is allowed only once in a while. If we fuck it up a few more times it’s over. That’s the prism we should be looking through. If we want a top 4, then sure, it’s not a big deal. But for our title aspirations nights, like the one yesterday, cannot be allowed to happen often We were on 47 points with 19 games played a season ago. And we still didn’t win it.… Read more »

Mikel Coneteta

“And we have been talking about Martinelli’s poor performances for months on end and how Jesus doesn’t have a presence in the box or clinical finishing. So yeah a bit strange to pin the blame on Emile who got only 10 mins and did well unless you are specifically talking about his fitness issues. But you deemed him ” not good enough for Arsenal” and that’s rubbish. If Martinelli is good enough for Arsenal then for sure Emile is.“ You’re making my point for me. Martinelli is out of form and we desperately need a competent challenge in the forward… Read more »

Tenerife Gooner

Mr Serge.I lived in Paignton when I was a Season ticket holder .Used to go to most games.I could handle defeat far better if I was at the Game.If we are ,say 1 up now,I just cannot watch the last 15 minutes.Bundle of nerves.

WengerEagle

This is why I urged caution with being over-reliant on two 22 year olds in Saka and Martinelli as well in terms of carrying the goalscoring burden. Rich especially was here getting over-excited and extrapolating like a madman that both would crack on to even greater heights this season and that Odegaard has basically morphed into Lampard 2.0 after last season which seems to have been an anomaly when you factor in that he has scored just 2 non-penalty PL goals and we’re at the halfway mark of the season. Martinelli has spluttered and had a rough season in front… Read more »

WengerEagle

And as much as I love Jesus as an all-rounder, it’s getting beyond difficult to justify his awful finishing touch in front of goal. 3 PL goals isn’t an acceptable return for an Arsenal striker at the halfway point of the season even if he’s missed some games.

I still love him as a versatile swiss-army knife forward that can play anywhere along the frontline but he’s not the 9 we need to challenge.

Mikel Coneteta

WengerEagle

Agree.

Also why shouts for Evan Ferguson in the summer miss the mark imo. We need a final third bully who can take the strain off those younger talents who are being marked out the game time and again because we lack presence.

Foxy

Saka although probably still our best front player seems to be trying too hard to be our primary goal scorer rather than a creator, and is increasingly coming inside into the same area Ode operates in rather than give us width in attack. Whether this is by instruction or forced by our lack of a traditional target man CF I am not sure but it does expose his less than elite ball striking and probably makes him more predictable easier to defend against.

WengerEagle

Coneteta Yeah, problem is the CF reservoir in Europe is dry as a bone. Ferguson is a superb talent but he’s way too raw for where our core group are at now. Rooney had two full years to develop at United before being a key part in a title-contending team in 06/07, Ferguson if he came in now doesn’t have the same luxury and it’d be sink or swim from the get-go which is a drowning sentence for 99% of young CFs. Osimhen will be overpriced and I’d expect there to be a bidding war over him given the lack… Read more »

Batistuta

Tactically inflexible is the best way to describe our manager. If he can sort out his rotation phobia and garner some tactical flexibility then he will go on to be a world beater of a coach

X haka

And some on here, scoffed at Solanke.

Mick has a few problems now.

1.Solanke price will shoot up and Toney if he is stupid enough to go near him.

2. David Moyes has given every other coach the perfect template in how to beat the team.
Expect more low blockers. All these touches in the box, will not have gone unnoticed.

WengerEagle

Solanke banter aside has been impressive this season. It’s not just the goals, he has more to his game and plays the 9 role well.

Samesong

The Toney hate is real on here lol and then hearing Solanke in the same sentence.

Batistuta

I’d take Toney today and shift Jesus wide left. Martinelli not having any kind of competition has been absolutely shit for weeks now, same in a way can be said for saka although not sure anyone is allowed to criticise bukayo.

David Raya is not Arsenal quality and my goodness can we sometimes ditch this inverted madness with zinchenko. There is absolutely no need why we play the same way, same formation, same style against every single opponent

Mikel Coneteta

WengerEagle

We don’t need a ceiling raiser imo, we need the floor raised.

Don’t like the idea of 110M on Osimhen when we have bodies like Eddie, ESR, Nelson, even Trossard in attack.

Much rather sell 2/3 of those and spend 120M on Toney and Pedro Neto or Nico Williams. We have to be turning to our bench in games and seeing genuine ripe and ready quality on it. Also the decision on who to start needs to become more difficult for Arteta. Right now it isn’t.

WengerEagle

I’m not a great lover of Toney and I’d question his professionalism with the gambling history and openly calling Brentford shit publicly not to mention how much Brentford will want for him but he’d be the perfect alternative to Jesus for games where we just cannot find a way through bodies and need a physical presence in the box.

Toney is a monster of a presence, we’ve literally seen him bully defenders 4+ inches taller than him.

TR7

I would say Jesus is not a striker at all. He is an out and out winger.

Even Martinelli would be more suited as a striker than Jesus. A swap of positions between Jesus and Martinelli is needed until we get a new striker.

WengerEagle

Bati Zinchenko flat out isn’t good enough at defending to be a LB. He may have gotten away with it in a previous era of the PL when teams below the top 6 didn’t have a pulse but now with the money being pumped around you have livewires like Kudus, Paqueta and Bowen on a formerly average team like West Ham and you can’t get away with having a soft full-back that gets beaten with ease and is clueless positionally when it comes to defending. I don’t know what that means for him going forward. He’s too good to be… Read more »

Mikel Coneteta

Zinchenko isn’t too good to be a backup imo. I don’t think we have any players like that except Saka, Rice, Gab and Saliba. The rest it’s an open competition

WengerEagle

Kudus is fucking quality, why were we not in for him at 40m?

raptora

I’ve been calling Zina and Jesus problems for weeks now – and Tomi.
Glad more people are waking up to see the obvious.

WengerEagle

Coneteta

Even if he isn’t it comes back to whether he’d be willing and I seriously doubt it. Why leave the City bench in the first place then?

If he were TAA, Marcelo, Dani Alves levels going forward you could harbour his defensive deficiencies but he’s worlds away from that level of offensive talent and contribution.

RJM

Why not give Marti a go upfront…Jesus in behind , roaming as he does.
Trossard wide left, Saka right, Rice and Odegaard centrally, play Havertz left back since that means he’ll be in central midfield as well.

WengerEagle

I was ahead of you on Zinch Raptora, the business end of last season opened my eyes and laid his deficiencies bare to see.