INJURY LOWDOWN

by .

If you follow me on Twitter, you’ll already have this spicy hot take.

Don’t get your hopes up because children on Twitter are making up lies about the return dates of players.

We’ll start with two that aren’t hard ‘NO WAYS’ but they’re not far off.

The next time you see Thomas Partey and Tomiyasu, they’ll most likely be wearing another team’s colors.

Not because they’ve been sold, but because they’ll be playing at Asia Cup and AFCON.

Could Partey be included for the Liverpool game? For sure. The player obviously wants to get out there and show the world he mugged Declan Rice off against West Ham last year… but, that would be quite risky for Arsenal. If he’s not sold, there’s no midfielder on the planet more useful to our title run-in. Thomas owes us big time. One last jaunt before he goes to Saudi or Italy.

Reminder: Thomas has dropped out of contention twice this season in training sessions. He is absolutely incredible when he’s fit. So the temptation might be to have him in the squad for Liverpool with Jorginho a doubt… but if he comes back early and re-ups his injury, the consequences would be dire for his season, and more importantly to him, his chances to rep his country one last time in AFCON.

Tomi is in a similar boat. We over-played him again, we lost him during an important part of the season, so the idea we’ll roll him out before he goes and plays an integral role for Japan (lots of games) seems nuts even for Arteta.

Don’t get your hopes up on either. Be worried if they make an appearance. It would not be a clever move.

The player I am 100% sure about is Jurrien Timber.

Some weird guy on the internet who gets everything wrong / all of the time / because he guesses is saying Timber will be back for Palace.

Categorially, this is a huge, huge no.

There are four basic stages to an ACL recovery.

  • Healing from the surgery
  • Building muscle around the injured area
  • Using the broken body part in high-intensity training
  • Trusting the body in an actual match

I have spoken to experts, at the highest level, from England, and they all say the same thing: 7 months best case, 9 months worst.

There is no horse placenta treatment – stem-cell science is science lab dream stuff – miracle recoveries are the outlier.

Work back from those dates and the miracle recovery would be the end of February, the most likely outcome is going to be the end of March for the second leg of the Champions League quarterfinals.

Another part of this equation that mere mortals like you and I don’t fully compute is how hard these injuries are psychologically. The rehab is extremely tough and boring. You start to hate your PT. You hate your body for not doing what you know it can do. You worry every time you make a sharp turn the knee could blow out again. You worry you’ll never be the same again.

Even mentality monsters struggle.

A lot of people have been telling me Aron Rodgers, a 40-year-old quarterback, defied the odds and recovered from an Achilles injury in three months.

Please.

Firstly, no 22-year-old ‘soccer’ player will recover from that injury in 3 months in the next 5 years. They are vastly different sports, which is why you almost never see top-level 40-year-olds.

Secondly, if a miracle happens with a body… that body ain’t 40 years old. The Jets are done for the season, I would say there’s zero chance you’ll see them risking him this season because they know how bad the implications are if he fucks himself with the same injury again.

Also, remember which party those MIRACLE RECOVERY headlines suit the most. It’s the old player trying to justify their salary.

Back to the internet.

I do wish people would stop rewarding bad information. These idiots post fake stories – get 10,000 new followers – then when the story is proved incorrect, they don’t lose any.

I’ll get no followers for telling the truth because there is no value in reality on the internet.

Ok, that’s me done my darlings.

Check out the latest podcast below.

P.S. The emails have stopped. I’ll be looking at that in the New Year. I lose money on this website. I can’t put so much time into something when I have children if it’s costing me money. So I’m looking at better options.

1.2K Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Mysticleaves

It was a very lucky point in the end. And very acceptable. After we scored we lost our foothold in the game. Not at anytime did we threaten to score except the wasted chance by Saka and Martinelli. Pool might have had low xG but they ran us ragged the whole game. Zinc was definitely poor for the goal but being alone against Salah was not very wise. He didn’t get help from Marti all game. Marti himself lost the ball all game. Liverpool defenders marshalled our strikers very easily for my liking. Rice was lost in the 1st half.… Read more »

TallestTiz

I think Rice was partly to be blames for Salah’s goal. The team actually switched off for that long pass that found Salah. If you rewatch, Gabriel was busy screaming at Rice to pick up a Liverpool player on the edge of the box. Rice didn’t respond on time. So Gabriel was caught in-between two minds. Confused if to support Zinchenko or to close passing angle from Salah to the unmarked Liverpool player on the edge of the box. If Rice had covered quick enough, Gabriel would have gotten tighter with Salah and foiled the shot. However, it was a… Read more »

Samesong

TallerTiz

For me Zinny needed to send Salah on the outside not inside. A left footer is always going to cut inside to shoot. It was made to easy for Salah in the first place. But a point a point. I’ll accept that. I don’t think Rice is to blame in that instance.

Guns of SF

Aaron it has to be a fullback in Jan.
White and Zin wont last too long , I agree.
White might last longer but his game does fade badly at times.

Today Martinelli was horrendous, like his mind was somewhere else.

Markymak

Guns of Hackney sitting in his chair playing at being Lord of the Manor. Supping his craft Gin.
It’ll tasted like piss after his usual hatred came back to hit in the face.

China1

For me Martinelli looked very short of confidence and he like he was trying very hard to do something special to prove himself rather than keeping it simple – and in the process was overthinking everything and making a lot of mistakes He had a period like this in the new year last year and arteta just kept playing him u til he refound form, starting with that goal into an open net vs Villa when emi went up for the corner That was a catalyst for a huge turnaround of form for him. Don’t know if it’s better that… Read more »

China1

Habesha if we want to do a like for like sub for Martinelli with our current squad it’s Nelson who is the option – but he’s not rated by Mikel

psuedo warrior

Liverpool lost only 1 in the last 50 PL games at Anfield. The peacock strutted “I’m not happy” of certain Arsenal fans is laughable.

Chitrak

Odegaard handball was a penalty all day long, far more than last game havertz penalty. We should say as it is really.

Berg10kamp

When our attackers are off form, our midfield steps up, and when the midfield is off form the defence steps up. Overall good performance but I have to say our defending wasn’t all that great. Pool could have had 3 goals of they were more clinical. We really only had the chance from martinelli so if we were both clinical it would be 3-2 easily to Pool. But it was evenly matched, and I amd glad cos last time we came here was very different. The boys no longer have fear. COYG!!

Berg10kamp

Agree Chitrak, that was a pen. It was deliberate. Make that 4 goals to Pool and maybe 3 to us as we also had a shout for a pen.

Markymak

Looking at Dominic Solanki dare I say a bit of Snobbery plays a part. Just sounds like a small town player. Looking at him this season he’s taken them with his head , placing and shooting top draw finishes. Looks a player to me

FoxInTheBox

A season or so back Ode was a great addition to the team. But now his contributions are not good enough. Same goes for Marti about 3 seasons back. Both appear average more frequently now.

So, don’t these players need upgrades?

Time to cash in on both.

FoxInTheBox

There are two players on the bench at the LW position to replace Martinelli. Why doesn’t the manager give those players chances? Is Nelson that bad? If so, why give him a new contract?

Wicked Willy

We went toe to toe with ne of the best teams in europe, at the most difficult ground in England, and people are moaning. I just don’t get it. Had we had Tomi, we would have shut Salah down.Likely with Timber too, although that’s more speculative. Zinny is in the side to for ball progression, not to shut down the best RW in world football. He makes mistakes, just like Trent and Cancelo do. Unfortunately, Martinelli couldn’t expose Trent in the same way Mo exposed Zinny, and as a result, it ended all square. We’re top at Christmas, despite lots… Read more »

Brian Muff

Ode’s an outstanding player. Sure he has things to work on, but you can’t just chuck players out like the world’s your oyster.

It’s not fantasy football we’re playing here.

Brian Muff

Well said WW.

Way too much criticism and moaning on here by armchair managers who ain’t got a fucking clue.

X haka

Dom Solanke, another hatrick.

That’s who we need, said it months ago.

We don’t score enough goals away from home against the top sides.

None against Newcastle, Villa and even needed a late one against Brentford Yesterday was a goal from a defender.

Neither Martinelli, Nketiah and Jesus combined has what Solanke offers.

Brute strength, pace ,power and aerial ability

X haka

Klopp was once stating, Martinelli was the best youngster, he had seen, what has happened to that player?

Think Nelson, should be selected ahead of him and given a chance.

Colney Gooner

“Timber not coming back this year mate”
Well there’s only a few days left of this year so perhaps next year then?😉

Northbanker

WW -because life’s losers post on here. The entitled generation who lose their shit over a draw. God help us if we ever have to deal with them in real life – they would drain the joy out of every situation

Bob N16

Top of the table at Xmas, CL to look forward to in Feb, one helluva lot to be thankful for. Every single supporter would be happy if their team were able to swap places with Arsenal. Nothing won yet but in poll position.

A draw is always a great result at Anfield.

Does anyone know what the reason for so many of our players slipping yesterday? First bit of VAR luck with Odegaard’s handball – that was caused by one of the many slips.

Samesong

Way too much criticism and moaning on here by armchair managers who ain’t got a fucking clue.

Yet all you do is moan about postesr moaning. Hypocrite!

Samesong

Being top at Christmas doesn’t mean shit. We were top last season as well. Let’s all celebrate the top of the league at Christmas cup!

Whilst I accept the result. 2024 will be 20 years since we last won a PL title.

Freddie Ljungberg

Foxinthebox “A season or so back Ode was a great addition to the team. But now his contributions are not good enough. Same goes for Marti about 3 seasons back.” They both scored 15 goals each in the PL last season, Martinelli is 22 years old, bad patches of form are to be expected. Havertz is starting to produce goals now which is good, and along with his defensive work he’s pulling his weight now imo, but he’s not very creative and his passing and build up play is mediocre so we don’t have the same threat down the left,… Read more »

Habesha Gooner

Pool fans are such cry babies. Just intolerable bastards..

Samir

We need Solanke in January.

Paqueta in the summer.
How did we not buy Kudus last summer? We all knew how good he was.

Chitrak

Yesterday it’s fair result I guess. We had one guilt edged chance, especially that saka-marti miss. And that 5-1 that Liverpool missed after zinchenko tackled odegaard.

Pierre

And you all believed that Martinelli’s form suffered last season with Eddie in the side…..fools. So what happens this season , jesus replaces Eddie after 9 games and Martinelli’s form.falls off a cliff apparently, and yet not one person points the finger at one of the untouchables….jesus .. Now I don’t for one minute think it’s a striker’s fault if a winger continually fails to beat the full back, I didn’t believe it was Eddie’s fault last season and I don’t believe it jesus fault this season. I’ve said from day one that Martinelli isn’t a natural at beating a… Read more »

Bob N16

Samesong, your posts suggest that it’s all about where we finish in the end. I understand that position but it means that there’s a danger that you cannot enjoy the journey. The fact that it’s been 20 years since we’ve won PL doesn’t mean that there’s been nothing to enjoy in all those years. If we win PL I will be ecstatic and will be decorating my house and joining in the celebrations as the team travel to Islington Town Hall. My 22 year old son was on my shoulders the last time we won! By all means focus on… Read more »

Bob N16

Samir ‘How did we not buy Kudus last summer?’. Because we had a net spend of £125m already.

Northbanker

Kudus cost 35m + – we’re not going to spend that on a back up to Saka

Bob N16

Understand your comments on Martinelli Pierre. I’d have no issue if he was moved inside on occasion and Nelson was given opportunities to show how useful a player he could be.

Bob N16

Any early thoughts about how we should set up against WHU with Havertz out?

Matt

I tell you what we do miss is Xhaka playing passes between the other teams right back and right centre back to run onto. We used to get a lot of success with that play and it was often Martinelli using his pace to run in behind the right back to get on the end of the pass. Nobody’s playing that pass anymore or even looking for it. Like Pierre said, Martinelli is not good at beating players one on one, especially from a standing start where ti be quite frank there is not much between him and Antony. I… Read more »

Samesong

but it means that there’s a danger that you cannot enjoy the journey.

Bob get out of here about enjoying the journey and being joyless!!! I don’t share in your celebrations of being top at Christmas as I saw what happened last season. Let’s have this same conversation at the end of the season.

Samesong

Rival fans keep talking about the Ode handball but the Havertz push from Trent looked a penalty also.

Siddeeq

“”west ham are rubbish away from home, fulham are on the decline again””

Westham will exhaust us, we will be lucky to get out of it without injuries.

Fulham will have their CF back, their bad results coincided with his red card.

CP – Anything less than a win is unacceptable

psuedo warrior

Neither of the two calls were penalties. Havertz was looking for that and it was soft. Odegaard slipped and his hand movement was a reflex. I doubt anyone even talks about that event if he proceeded to fall on his bum after the slip. Doesn’t change the fact that it was still a slip

Siddeeq

Top at Easter is better than top at xmas

Im telling you for free

psuedo warrior

Saka taking out the Liverpool player and manager was hilarious.

Liverpool’s cvntish tactics in altering the surface took out their own player. Karma eh

Habesha Gooner

Pierre you dope
Martinelli is afforded the benefit of the doubt because he score 15 league goals from the wing last season. Plus he was the first teenager to score more than 10 in his debut season. There is evidence of high level performance. When did Eddie score 15 goals in all comps for us? Eddie is going to be sold next summer. just stop crying.

Bob N16

Samesong – being top at any time is worth enjoying! You mention last season, how about the previous 19 seasons when we haven’t won the league? If you can’t enjoy the journey then if the destination doesn’t satisfy then what do you have- a lot of dissatisfaction?

Bob N16

pseudo, Saka also slipped and took out a player, just about avoiding a second booking!

Markymak

Anybody up for a game of players you would want playing for Arsenal but will cause you severe forum slating.
I’ll go for
1. Mr Dominic Solanki
2. Mr Scott McTominay

Let’s hear some choices !

Markymak

Managers are also allowed in the list

Un

Tallest tiz

It was white not rice and he did cover in time
Gabriel could have and should have read the shot just as zinechenko should have
He telegraphs it
Just not very smart defending

Un

It’s like blaming Jesus for not closing down the long ball quickly enough

Spanishdave

Gabby turned his back as usual , he never faces a shot.
Keeping Salah off his left foot is basic defending..
Anyway it Xmas enjoy you’al

Un

Dave

Precisely

Un

Matt Well then what the point of playing him when there’s no space to run into? He’s regressing quite badly because he can really only play well in a particular game state. He needs everything tailored to his skill set to be able to perform We are more dangerous with trossard there and I preferred ESR there too when he had his breakout year I’d honestly prefer t start using him as a striker as well as Havertz and put someone more adaptable on the left Maybe even Jesus and martinelli swapping mid game I don’t see him making the… Read more »

Un

Have to say though
They were robbed of penalty
Var gifted us there

Un

For Pierre

Odegaard made more tackles than any other player in last nights game

Un

Also, is it me or is Saka looking beefier? He looked like he’d grown a few inches taller last night and had a kg or two of extra muscle

G

Did someone really compare Martinelli to Antoney .. lol

raptora

WW: “Unfortunately, Martinelli couldn’t expose Trent in the same way Mo exposed Zinny, and as a result, it ended all square.” Sure, Marti played versus the best offensive full back in the world and failed this time. The 2 games before he ripped Trent to pieces scoring 2 and assisting 2 of the 5 goals we scored. What about Saka who played versus their LB reserve and then, their RB reserve? Both barely functional players and Saka completely failed to impose himself at all. Jesus? Eaten for breakfast by past it VVD. Supposedly outrageous player that some in here worship.… Read more »

Mysticleaves

Odegaard’s more attacking, tip of the diamond game has suffered as a result of Arsenal transitioning from Partey to Rice. Rice is blockbuster but doesn’t build up play nor control tempo. That’s what Partey does that frees Ode. Without Partey, Ode has to come back more often to set the tempo whereas last season, he was more of a flick on and finishing type in the team (like Haverts is(/will be) in the team now

raptora

Also, I just wanted to say towards Mysticleaves December 24, 2023, 05:11:09’s post. What a bunch of fkin bollocks. Criticizing Saliba, Gab and Rice and saying we barely got the draw and we should have lost and how we got a super lucky point. Huh? Klopp, in the interview, says how fkin good we are, Arteta said it was one of the best games in 20 years he’s watched but Mystic here says “they ran us ragged the whole game”, “on another day we would have lost” and “very good but extremely lucky point”. Ungrateful fan when the team put… Read more »

Bob N16

We can win PL if Partey and Rice are locked in CM against top 6 opposition. Those two would be superior to any other team’s options. With Saliba and Gabriel behind them. it’ll have to be a top team to overcome us. Do feel as though we should get creative in the loan market for a FB to help cover at FB as well as allowing Ben White to cover Saliba, if he were to be unavailable. I also thought Saka was strangely ineffective. I had an inkling that he’d score the winner cutting in and smashing, just like Salah… Read more »

CG

Liverpool 1 Arsenal 1. zero shots on target in the 2nd half- we have a league championship to win Goldenballs- so leave that bloody handbrake in London. Blanks at Villa, blanks at Newcastle, blanks for 94 minutes after the early set pice goal. Oh for the days, when our A Wenger- scored 6,4*3, 3 etc, at Anfield with some swashbuckling stuff. 4 years and multi millions spent and still no victories at Anfield or Man City- and if you dont win against your rivals away- you will often fall short. 2 points lost methinks- Man Utd showed how average Liverpool… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

During most of the Wenger era Liverpool were pretty shit. They’re not now. Pretty stupid comparison but completely on brand from you CG.

Un

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/HlC7SKIHpRw

So graceful nd elegant zizou
The kids who started watching post 2015 don’t know what they missed
For me the greatest era was 95-2015
2000-2010 being the superior years

Mysticleaves

Rap Calm down. Saliba and Gab had ok games defensively. Can’t remember them suffocating pool attackers like Konate or VVD did ours, that’s what exceptional is. Liverpool had us on the ropes and made 2 or 3 poor final third decisions. By no means did we have a defensive master class yesterday. If Liverpool had been more clinical they would have scored at least 3 goals. Rice was not great in the 1st half but got much better in the 2nd. Everybody that watched the game would allude to this. Are you trying to score some le Grove superfan points… Read more »

Pierre

Habesha “Pierre you dope Martinelli is afforded the benefit of the doubt because he score 15 league goals from the wing last season. Plus he was the first teenager to score more than 10 in his debut season. There is evidence of high level performance. When did Eddie score 15 goals in all comps for us? Eddie is going to be sold next summer. just stop crying.” Great season from Martinelli last season and if you want to read my comment on him in a calm and mature manner you will see that I was very complimentary about him and… Read more »

Un

Freddie

No they weren’t
Were you even watching back then? When we get joined arsenal were 5th and Liverpool were just a few points off United
They had Fowler collymore rush redknapp mcmanaman Patrick Berger and Michael Owen

He made them look shit by making us better than them
The lack of respect you show only makes you look like the pathetic, noodle seemed, beta make you really are

psuedo warrior

It was a pretty even contest and the stats tell the same story. Neither team was run ragged.

CG

FL

fair point- but it works both ways,

Man Utd and Chelsea were far superior in A. Wenger’s day than they are now.
He still delivered league titles.

Freddie Ljungberg

Don

Is that the majority of the 20 years Wenger was at the club you imbecile? Learn to read you dumb fuck.

Liverpool had many years of being mediocre before Klopp came in and turned them around.
I’m not stupid enough to expect us to hit this Liverpool team for 6 goals but you obviously are.

Samesong

Bob I don’t get overly excited at the half point of a marathon because I’m in the lead. You will never see marathon runner doing that even with the fans cheering them on. As the final stretch is going to be the hardest with obstacles. The only other team that has that mentality of being top at this if the year is spurs.

But you do you though!

Samesong

stage of*

Karsa

Sasmesong

Do you celebrate when we score a goal? Or do you wait till the end of the match to see if we win first?

I like to take my pleasures as they come and, if the sum of those pleasures result in a title or a cup, I’ll celebrate then too.

Mysticleaves

If Arsenal had a performance like Liverpool’s we’d all be disappointed we didn’t lose and would be saying the other team was lucky. It was never 50-50. It’s not a bad thing to say

Gonsterous

Great Great result. Lucky that Gabriel’s goal didn’t get called offside and the ode hand ball wasn’t given. Will take a draw at afield any day. Just have to beat them in the return ficture now. Onwards and upwards, still top of the league.

Samesong

Do you celebrate when we score a goal? Or do you wait till the end of the match to see if we win first?

Karsa I celebrate when we score I celebrate a victory I celebrate cup wins. I don’t celebrate being top of the league in December. Is there something wrong with that? I also said that I was ok with a draw.

Mysticleaves

Klopp is getting desperately fast to the “father Wenger” zone at Liverpool. I saw him yesterday happy and clapping for Liverpool players when they miss a chance. Pep would be seething and Arteta would maybe have been more anxious than excited. I also saw his “wow, wow, wow” expression to Arteta at full time. Those, coupled with the numerous home draws against top teams he’s faced this season are the signs of a manager who’s becoming a law onto himself. He no longer pushes for glory nor is he being held accountable by the club. He’s now a father figure.… Read more »

psuedo warrior

Mysticleaves,

“It’s not a bad thing to say”

True, it’s a stupid thing to say. But that seems to be right up your alley.

Mysticleaves

Fast = close

raptora

I’m watching a replay of the game. Marti lost the ball too many times. But what about Jesus? Did he even play yesterday? No surprise Arteta subbed him off in the 77th minute and we instantly improved. Even Mikel saw Jesus was completely missing. We’ll have to wait until the Summer but to be a dominant force in football we’ll need a better striker, and a less injury prone as well.

Karsa

Is there something wrong with that?

Did I say there was?

Just curious. Personally I love being top at any time. It’s a great indicator as to how we are doing. Long may it continue.

Bob N16

Samesong, I take joy when I can. Comparing 38 PL matches to 1 marathon race is a silly comparison at best.

If everybody took your way of seeing things then I’d imagine attendances in football matches throughout the leagues in England would decline drastically. The vast, vast majority of football fans do not end a football season winning a championship, or even a promotion.

I’m not telling you how you should feel, I’m just glad I can enjoy a win, an away draw against great opposition and being top of the league(at any time).

Bob N16

Just saw your last post, Samesong. Glad you are getting some joy along the way!

Samesong

Karsa your line of questioning me seemed weird if whether I celebrate when we score is odd it when we win. Just because I expressed noy being overly excited about being top in December.

Nothing is won at this stage.

Karsa

Karsa your line of questioning me seemed weird

It was merely a comparison between an individual game and the season as a whole.

Nothing weird really.

Wicked Willy

From Scott Willis

“Bukayo Saka led Arsenal in positive plays (increased scoring probability by 1%+) with 16 but also led Arsenal in negative plays (hurt Arsenal’s scoring chances or increased opponents chances by 1%) with 11. His net +5 was second to… Oleksandr Zinchenko who was +8”

Just goes to show the boy adds a lot of value…

Samesong

Bob

You’re easily pleased so thats good for you. As much as we have progressed. Being top at this stage means nothing if we can’t finish off the job in May. And many of our fans share that same opinion.

Le Grove is not based off the majority of the Arsenal fanbase.

Samesong

Karsa it’s a dumb question and you know it! I will always celebrate when my teams scores. When we win etc. yesterday was a good point. But being a point ahead on top in December means nothing.

When we win the league then you guys can cook me for saying this in December and I will happily accept it

Mysticleaves

I have no interest in engaging low IQ people today

psuedo warrior

Not sure what people expect.

The idea that Arsenal were gonna canter to a PL title last year was always a fantasy. Why? Because we were never even in contention previous years. The first half of season was as close to a fantasy as you’re gonna get but the correction came in the second half. The inexperience ultimately told.

Very rarely in life do you get success before experiencing and learning from failures.

psuedo warrior

“I have no interest in engaging low IQ people today”

Only thing worse than a fool is a fool that actually believes he is smart.

You should call Liverpool board ASAP and share them those pearls of wisdom, mystic man

Samesong

Samesong, I take joy when I can. Comparing 38 PL matches to 1 marathon race is a silly comparison at best.

Not really a marathon is a long lasting task difficult activity. That’s like winning the premier league, it’s difficult to win and its long. Anyway let’s not continue this.

You celebrate being top in December and I don’t. Doesn’t mean I don’t love my club any less.

Rich

If Arsenal can carve open the space, then we should do everything we can to sign Conor Gallagher in January. It’s not a priority position… As we really need more of a Zubimendi style player, than an out and out No8. But if we can carve open the space, then as a market opportunity, at the right price… It’s a market opportunity too good to turn down. Poch would loath to lose him., he’s at an excellent age and level of experience, should just be entering his prime. Would offer excellent cover/competition for both Ødegaard + Havertz. He’s a Klopp… Read more »

Wicked Willy

what do you think is the right price Rich? And would you sanction the sale of fabio to fund it?

TR7

Zinchenko has become a massive liability. I see a lot of people saying hey Salah can do that to any fullback but the fact is yesterday was not a one off. Zinchenko gives away silly goals almost every month. He must have been directly responsible for more than half a dozen goals already if not more. Last season also his mistake against TAA derailed our run. As for Martinelli, either he plays through the middle or as an impact sub. Jesus can do everything he does on the left side and more. Martinelli is a low IQ player who is… Read more »

TR7

Rice, Saliba and Gabriel have really stepped us and kudos to them but many attacking players are not really delivering which may come back to bite us.

Siddeeq

Dis Donc

Wicked Willy

last season, even when we were top and flying, we were significantly outperforming xG, and statistically were the second best team behind City. This season, we are statistically the best team on things like xG difference. That tells me we are still improving relatively speaking, and that makes me happy. I’m not going to delay my joy until May. i’m going to celebrate every marginal improvement as it happens

Rich

TR7 Trying to pin out collapse last season on Zinchenko is idiotic revisionism at best. We conceded 25 in 27, and then 18 in 11. That was down to losing our physical + technical security behind the ball with Saliba + Tomi, and then later losing Partey + Zinchenko for periods. This season we have the best defence, we concede the least shots, and least shots on goal. We conceded by far the least corners, allow the opposition the least amount of touches in both our penalty box and defensive third. We also take the least amount of touches in… Read more »

allezkev

I’m not a great stats fan, but our goals scored stat stands comparison with all of our main competitors whilst our goals conceded is excellent.

Matt B

I thought Zinchenko played well against Salah — the only error he made was for the goal and yes, it was very poor defending but we play better with him than without

For that game, we would ordinarily deploy Tomi — he’s a much better defender, but sadly injury-prone

Tom

“I thought Zinchenko played well against Salah — the only error he made was for the goal and yes, it was very poor defending but we play better with him than without“ I thought Zinchenko got very lucky we only conceded one off of his mistakes. Before their goal he went up for a aerial challenge leaving Salah completely unmarked behind him who struck the ball into side netting. Then the goal, then a risky Cruyff turn gone wrong sending Salah on his way, then the slip colliding with Ode from the corner that sent Pool five vs one they… Read more »