ARSENAL BREEZE PAST SEVILLA + NEW MIDFIELDER APPEARANCE

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Arsenal cruuuuuuuuuuised to an exceedingly simple win against a totally outclassed Sevilla FC. How can these young Arsenal men be acting out in the Champions League like they’re seasoned veterans?

We are not talking enough about how this rebooted Arsenal group of players are strangling sides like Homer Simpson on Bart before it was deemed uncool to strangle kids in cartoons last week.

Sevilla had one shot on target all game and that was their entire catalogue of attempts at our goal.

ONE SHOT.

This is the Champions League, those sorts of numbers shouldn’t be possible against quality sides known for European football. But look, this is a pattern. We might have lost against Newcastle at the weekend, but we had the richest side on the planet patting the floor trying to find scraps – they didn’t get a corner for an entire game.

This is a different Arsenal side defensively. We have more control, we have more physicality, we have players that feel more attuned to the type of football Mikel Arteta wants them to play.

William Saliba continues to look like the best centre-back in the world. He is a control master – he reads the game like a 30-year-old, but he has the superpowers of a prime VVD. He has all the tools you’d want in that position and he’s still a baby by centre-back standards.

Declan Rice is so good it’s getting boring writing about him – he is every inch a £105m. How many players that go for mega fees have their fans feeling like the deal represented value? Not many. The problem with going up against Declan is he’s everywhere. He’s not human, he’s a horror movie bad guy, you look over your shoulder, he’s not there, you turn back 2 seconds later and he’s savaging you. The only weakness in his game is you still feel there are levels to go… what’s going to happen when he starts shooting?

It was great to see both Bukayo and Martinelli have positive impacts on the game after being clogged up by the black and white deep block boys at the weekend. Martinelli was terrorising Sevilla all night long, constantly beating his man, and constantly getting into dangerous positions. Could the final ball be a little bit better with the cutbacks? Yeah. But he probably needs a striker to make those work more consistently. He still managed a glorious assist for Bukayo Saka who scored a very Bukayo goal.

Our OG Starboy also had a great game, he looked far more comfortable playing up against weaker fullbacks who let him run the game. The goal was great, so was the assist for Luther Van Tross. The injury wasn’t serious, according to Arteta, so let’s hope he’s in the starting 11 for the game this weekend.

There were some other notable performances.

Zinchenko, who has been training as a midfielder for parts of this week, showed up in the Jorginho role and did really well. The guy is an outrageous technician but he’s being outdefended this season. Maybe midfield as an 8 or a 6 could be the future for him? I certainly prefer him in advanced positions over Fabio Vieira.

David Raya kept a cleansheet.

Kai Havertz had a very good game again. Is he starting to find his feet? I think so. We’re also starting to learn what his game is about. I’m watching Granit Xhaka with more power and pace… and better at the one touch connective passing. Kai offers us a lot of hard work off the ball and eventually… he’s going to give us an edge in the opposition box with final passes and goals. He’s getting better, those that wrote him off, get ready to bow down to those that kept the faith.

Ok, that’s me done. Have urself a lovely day. Listen to the pod. See you later! x

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GD4

On the other hand I still don’t understand what Havertz was thinking going in for that challenge like that. He’s already on the bad side of the Arsenal fan base and imagine if he had copped a red on that?

That’s what Xhaka used to do and set off so many fans against him. When you aren’t contributing to the cause via the optics, to then double down and take a stupid red just makes the blood go to boiling point against you.

The lad should count himself very fortunate

MidwestGun

Ya Sal- St Louis bottled it.. no doubt. In the end though when they look back.. that was an epic run for an expansion team.

jwl

“I would say that my ruling on that committee being independent is inconclusive.”

It is orwellian, Middy. It says independent right there in its name so it’s obviously independent and it doesn’t matter who’s on the independent cmte or who pays their salaries.

MidwestGun

Tom you should know by now.. after reading all Sid’s comments.. you always add at least 3 inches to every 6 inches.. when commenting on football. Sid’s Law.

Siddeeq

Arsenal should stiffen their upper lip because when in England act English.

englandsbest

Refs, PGMOL, VAR, the so-called pundits – they can argue the toss as much as they want, but my eyes and my gut tell me the Newcastle goal should not have stood. And I’d lay odds that anyone watching the sequence with no soundtrack, no comment and no foreknowledge would see and feel the same as me. Football is a simple and easily understood game, it’s some of the rules which make it complicated and difficult to understand. The offside rule is daft as a brush. A five-year old could come up with a more sensible version. And if VAR… Read more »

MidwestGun

I personally think the independent committee should have sequestered Joe Willock.. in a dark room .. no food or drink, questioned him by several members for 3 or 4 hours on what he thought, then administer a lie detector test. As he was the closest witness to the crime of In or Out. Let’s see where his heart really lies?

You know I’m right.

Freddie Ljungberg

PL only. Szoboszlai key passes 2.4 Shots per game 2 Dribbles 1.2 Havertz key passes 0.7 Shots per game 1 dribbles 0.1 New to the league and Liverpool fans are talking about him like he’s the second coming, for a reason, he’s been really good in his first 11 games in the league. Maybe apply the eye test Nigel and stop watching only goal highlights? It’s great that Havertz is putting himself around (a bit too much at times) and doing his bit defensively but he’s an offensive midfielder and he’s shown next to zero quality on the ball so… Read more »

Siddeeq

“”you always add at least 3 inches to every 6 inches.. “”

You are Not balanced, 6 inches needs another 6 inches to balance.

Telling you for free!

MidwestGun

Thanks Sid.. as always I bow to your expertise on these matters.

Tom

Here’s my independent decision: Havertz challenge on Longstaff yellow. Bruno forearm on Jorginho red. Havertz second sliding tackle second yellow . Gordon goal: Ball in ( look up Japan’s goal vs Spain WC) And besides, the length of time dedicated to that particular aspect of play considered it happens three feet from the corner flag while our entire D watched on is embarrassing. Shove on Gabriel makes the possible offside and a handball moot No goal. And finally, considering this cost Arsenal just one point, and that Newcastle won’t be in contention for the title come May there’s been an… Read more »

Dissenter

I never heard of that rules committee releasing findings until today

The blind investigating the blind.
They were unanimous in saying Havertz should have been sent off but split 3-2 that Guimaraes should have been sent off
Football is so tribal that nothing will ever change

Dissenter

I can see the next Arteta press conference
Some stupid “journalist” seeking to make a name for himself will ask the question;
“Mikel, do you want to apologize for your outburst”

Dissenter

GD4
“He really needs to walk a very fine line because there will be no benefit of doubt any longer”

Yes, Arteta has to watch himself careful. He has to stop al the gesticulations and remonstrations with the 4th official.
Daggers have been drawn for him, they are just waiting for the best time to stick it in.

Tom

“It’s great that Havertz is putting himself around (a bit too much at times) and doing his bit defensively but he’s an offensive midfielder and he’s shown next to zero quality on the ball so far“

Freddie, looks like a lot of people find Havertz extremely offensive

Karsa

Trailblazers are always mocked by those who covet the status quo.

raptora

Been hearing we need a RCB to support Saliba, but real talk, IF, and it’s a big if, Timber is back to full training by the end of January (something I would bet on), then Benny could just be used at RCB with an absolute ease. We have 7 defenders in the team and it is one body short in general. Zinny, Tomi, Gabriel, Kiwior, Saliba, Benny, Timber. Some very flexible players in that lot. Let’s see how we are injury wise by January but now I’d rather spend money somewhere else (Zubimendi is an interesting one). Or keep some… Read more »

rollen

Arteta should reply; I would like to apologize…. to absolutely no one. You all are cheating scumbags. I will make arsenal so good that we will bet every team by 4 goals so your oil infused corruption cannot twist the result! drop the mike.

rollen

Josh should unleash his corporate lawyers.

Freddie Ljungberg

Unless we’re getting rid of Partey + one more DM I don’t see us bringing in Zubimendi in January

Rice, Partey, Jorginho, Elneny and Zubimendi for 1 position when we don’t have a proper left 8? Seems a bit silly.

Tom

“”you always add at least 3 inches to every 6 inches.. “”You are Not balanced, 6 inches needs another 6 inches to balance.Telling you for free! Joke Friday on Thursday Two construction guys talking on a job site Don says: “ hey, remember that chick I was telling you I met at the bar the other day?’ Sid: “what about her?” Don: “ I fucked her last night” Sid: “yea? How was she?” Don: “ pretty wild, man. She said give me nine inches and make it hurt” Sid: “ And what did you do?” Don: “ I fucked her… Read more »

MidwestGun

Freddie .. I think Partey is considered near gone already.. Pure speculation but I’m guessing maybe a loan deal for a midfielder in January. We did that with Odegaard remember brought him in on loan at the time.
As long as it isn’t a Swedish midfielder with a broken back.

Think the consensus by the Itkers is that we are plotting a striker move with any kind of serious money which most likely means selling at least 2 players. Ramsdale and Partey? I don’t know.

raptora

🗣️| David Raya’s agent, Jaume Munell: “Arsenal showed interest for the first time three years ago in 2021. They tried to buy him but Brentford didn’t want to sell him at any price. After they bought Aaron Ramsdale, that was an easier option, but David has always been the priority. “This summer, he had just one year left on his contract with Brentford and Arsenal was the club that showed the most concrete interest and have always been our priority.  “Tottenham also was interested and made an official bid but it was refused because was lower than the 40 million… Read more »

raptora

Zubimendi for the LCM is what I meant Freddie.

MG42

Arteta should use the Gary O’Neil approach when asked after obvious referee blunders and not talk about reterees decision and just say it is useless to talk about them until they improve in their assigned job performance.

Freddie Ljungberg

Mid

Yeah I think Partey is gobe too, but paying 50m for a backup dm to your 105m dm in January when we have holes in the first xi would be really stupid use of our money.

I’m not fan of Jorginho or Elneny but they’re backups and the only reason Jorginho has played as much as he has is because we don’t have a left 8 and Rice has had to play there.

Freddie Ljungberg

Rap

He’s a dm though, that can slot in at fullback.

Great at dictating play from deep but not an attacker by any means.

If Arteta wants to fill the middle with hardworking non creative players like Pool did their last cycle that’s fine but then we’d have to change our fullbacks (or at the very least how they play) too or we will create very few chances even if it makes us more stable at the back.

MidwestGun

Ya Freddie that’s why I think a loan move.. for now. Plus Factor in Afcon and Asian Cup with injuries.. I think we will be short otherwise. That also might be why the rumor is Zinchenko is training as a midfielder.

Maybe we make a move for Left back.. especially with TT going to Asian Cup thing.

Rich

Zubimendi would be earmarked for the role we likely wanted for Caicedo. Relying on Partey for any period of time, would be the equivalent of playing Russian Roulette with our season, with a full leaded AR15… Elneny is done, we only renewed because we couldn’t kick out a player who was injured in the line of duty, with his contract about to expire. We’re not selling Partey, that ship has sailed, nobody would agree to take his wages off us for 18 months at this point, let alone agree to pay a fee on top… A pay-as-you-play loan is likely… Read more »

kofi

just for the record as some argued we should not blame ‘one’ bad decision against us and we are bad palace away – second booking for tomi complete scandal, as it was his first foul in the game and beside that he did not even touch ayew city home – clear red card for kovacic, even webb said so – and after that a clear second booking, webb agreed chelsea away – clear penalty sanchez on jesus ‘onana’-style newcastle – no comment here we played 11 games – in four games we had arguably game changing officiating against us. I… Read more »

Matt B

Rap: I think those quotes from Raya’s agent make the whole thing even worse. Most of us knew that Arteta and his GK coach wanted Raya but for one reason or another it didn’t happen in 2021. This has pretty much confirmed that Ramsdale was just a stop-gap all along. I very much doubt Ramsdale was told that when he was bought and it just illustrates how disingenuous Arteta has been about the whole situation since the initial signing of Ramsdale and then Raya. A lot of the issues people have with Arteta and Pedro’s description of him being transactional,… Read more »

Karsa

I hardly think Ramsdale’s career has been damaged by his time at Arsenal.

He’s got his England call up, and will – if sold – transfer to a much more prestigious club than he’d previously played for before joining us.

Chitrak

I was seeing Liverpools options today. Their attacking group is better than ours. Them and man city both. Our defense is better though. In January, we need forwards desperately.

Mikel Coneteta

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-thomas-partey-injury-arteta-31403830

Thomas Partey out until Jan (then away with Ghana late Jan).

What a terrible decision holding on to him was. Should’ve taken the 35/40M from Saudi and bought a new #8 with Rice already replacing him at #6.

jwl

I do like the conversation around that jogrhino incident getting elbowed or was it a forearm, I’ve been saying for long time that soccer would be better sport if it was more like ice hockey. New rules are you can assault people with your arm, but not elbow, and i like this rule as long as it applied equally.

Chitrak

Except saka and martinelli, we don’t have good attackers at all. Jesus is a different type of player, as effective as nunez only. We need a class signing up top

Goona

@chitrak…yep, and until we do we will win fuck all

Rich

Matt B

Arteta’s job isn’t to make friends… His job is to make tough decisions, he’s not there to pander to anyone’s feelings or sensibilities.

His job is to lead…. Leading should never be a popularity contest, it should always be a common sense and pragmatism contest.

Professional sports is cutthroat, it’s absolutely brutal, and that’s the way it should be… Our public institutions should be taking notes, particularly our education system.

Give me a manager that doesn’t shirk the tough decisions, over one that dithers, every day of the week.

BacaryisGod

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/38854734/panel-says-newcastle-goal-vs-arsenal-was-correct-decision

This is the biggest bunch of political crap I’ve seen in a long time. The Premier League panel making a mockery of their independent label.

Tom

Don’t they wear helmets in hockey and consider off the puck body checks that send players six feet airborne legal?

Brilliant idea.
You’ve got any more?

Tom

Bac, did you really expect different from anyone associated with the league regardless whether or not “independent “ is in their heading?

Matt B

Rich: I didn’t say there was anything wrong in a manager being a cunt! I think they probably should be — we all witnessed SAF and he was prized A1 version.

GG bought us glory for the first time in a generation and he was followed, eventually by the utter Gent, Arsene Wenger. And yes, he was probably too nice, but he was a class act. Not sure Arteta is, but if he brings us silverware, I don’t care!

Rich

Matt B

I was watching a Man United channel a while back when “Ollie Was At The Wheel”…

And they were calling Arteta “A vindictive little cunt”….And were saying that they needed their own vindictive little cunt to clean up their own dressing room.

Spanner

So the PL panel think that shove on Gabruel was a clean challenge ?
Prepare to see defenders challenging in their own boxes like that at the weekend.
It’s either a foul or it’s not, same for every player.

karim

Can we all take a minute to laugh at Liverpool ?

Nastradamus

Batistuta… Good selection there. Will be staking up with a little quid. Hoping for the BOL.

Dissenter

Rich
You and this Partey obsession 😂😂😂
It made me laugh though, gotta admit
What will you do when Partey comes back in January and leads us to a league championship in May?

karim

Great game for the neutral Toulouse v Liverpool
3/2 for the farmers so far

Tom

Diss, that’s easy, he’d say we could’ve won a double if Party wasn’t so useless

Which is probably what you might say about Havertz in similar circumstances.

MidwestGun

Var to decide Pool game.

Markymark

Rich -Professional sports is cutthroat, it’s absolutely brutal, and that’s the way it should be… Our public institutions should be taking notes, particularly our education system.

This has been tried before turning a Boy Scouts like association into training fighting units. Inspiring martial like devotion to state and leader and operating war games with physical wrestling and boxing. Happened around 1926 onwards in Germany and Putin is attempting to bring in this model to Russia – I personally would like to keep cutthroat to sports and education and ethics to school curriculums

Goona

Pool 😆

karim

Well deserved

MidwestGun

Ya .. I enjoyed.. it.. very much.

Rich

MarkyMark

We should have our national flags in every class room, and flying outside every public school in the country, with kids singing the National Anthem every morning at assembly.

Creating weak men and teaching them to hate their own countries, and then importing millions of fighting aged men who wholeheartedly agree with them….

Doesn’t sound particularly smart.

Bob N16

Stick to football Rich, nationalist nonsense is just….nonsense.

Luteo Guenreira

Rich

And what kind of flags do you have flying in front of your house? I bet they’re red.

Markymark

Rich – truly bizarre. Normally it needs a mass shooting to kick you off.

The National anthem is a god awful dirge. At least get the boys and girls in the National uniform you will have designed to sing Jerusalem.
Putin has been implementing this sort of thing in Russia I’m sure you can come up with some further crackpot ideas

Tom

“We should have our national flags in every class room, and flying outside every public school in the country, with kids singing the National Anthem every morning at assembly.“

No air force flyovers?
So disappointing.

salparadisenyc

Any thoughts on uniforms for all the school children ideally something in a beige or a nice facist taupe to really elevate productivity within the classroom?

Tom

Sal, girls miniskirts and high socks or fishnets
boys…. whatever Sid fancies

Luteo Guenreira

“girls miniskirts and high socks or fishnets”

Kinky.

“boys…. whatever Sid fancies”

Somehow even kinkier.

bacaryisgod

What next, Rich? Pledge of allegience to Sid’s Longstuff?

sarge

Pedro did you really suggest Havertz’s passing in any way might be better than Xhaka’s!?

Rich

Bacary…

Solute whatever you want pal… What you and Sid, and Dissenter + Un get up too, is of absolutely no concern to me… None of my business.

bacaryisgod

Rich

Not quite sure where your extreme nationalism/jingoim comes from but history tells us it’s not always the best way to go. I’m pragmatic enough to recognize that even a well-intended open border policy can lead to numerous issues but the Old England you evidently yearn for had more than a few problems too.

Nigel Tufnel

Freddie, You are full of shite (dishonest).. You are one of the many on legrove wanking over a Liverpool player,, Szoboslai…. and busy shitting on our player Kai Havertz. I pointed this out and you came back with a couple tiny stats that are a little better for Szobo over Havertz. Weak stuff. Those are the best you could produce? You also left out that he’s played almost 30% more minutes than Kai., and his stats are still not so impressive. 1 goal and 2 assists so far works out to about 3 goals and 6 assists over a 3000… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

One day soon Nigel you’re going to make a post that doesn’t make you look like an absolute cunt. I believe in you. There you go just looking at the surface stats again, you goal highlight watcher you. Those stats I produced aren’t a “little” better either, they’re miles apart. Havertz has been good off the ball, as has Szobozslai btw, the difference on the ball is night and day though. Havertz has been in the PL for 3 years, Szobozslai for 3 months. Havertz has scored a penalty Szoboszlai blasted one in from outside the box. He’s dictating play,… Read more »

Nigel Tufnel

Good information from Raptora. And this quote from him: “Raya pushed for Arsenal too which is why I don’t understand the hatred some fans have towards him. Guy was wanted by a few top clubs but by the look of it, had Arsenal as complete priorhim. Now that he’s one of us, and he’s said this is a dream come true for him, we should back the bloke. He’s a top guy and deserves our support to show what he’s got.” The feeling I get from many gooners is a lot less supportive than I think our newest player deserves.… Read more »

Nigel Tufnel

Freddie, Why the need to get so angry and curse at me? I made a civil point, and I’m allowed to be smug when dealing with an inferior like you. Those were some real impressive stats you provided.., blew our socks off.. -Dribbles, in making a point about Havertz? You’re a bright one. You want to show us Xhaka’s dribbles too 😄 Shots per game 2 – 1 , wow… especially since you didn’t provide it by minutes played, considering the disparity. Congratulations, you embarrass yourself again. Keep trying to impress us with your scousers stats though. …. then curse… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

Nigel “Freddie,You are full of shite (dishonest)..You are one of the many on legrove wanking over a Liverpool player,, Szoboslai…. and busy shitting on our player Kai Havertz.” Yes, always so polite, that’s why everyone loves you… So Havertz is not supposed to dribble at all then? Good to know. It’s not useful in an attacking midfielder anyway. conveniently left out key passes I see… This wouldn’t even be a discussion if you had actually watched Szoboszlai play, the gulf in talent and how they’ve been playing is massive. Strange from someone that watches a game 3 times and shits… Read more »

MG42

Excellent article on VAR issues and why no semi automatic technology for offside will be arriving at the EPL: https://worldsoccertalk.com/news/premier-league-risks-losing-status-if-var-changes-arent-made-20231107-WST-467918.html “While introducing the semi automatic technology is desperately needed, it will likely not arrive in the Premier League soon. One of the key reasons for the delay is that Nike, the official ball of the English top flight, has yet to even test the technology. Adidas currently supplies soccer balls for the CL & EL UEFA tournaments and the Italian league.” Fuck me I knew money was behind the call not to have it in the EPL. Nike must have… Read more »

Siddeeq

@Tom and Co, behave you mannerless weevils

Siddeeq

Technology is Not a solution to everything. Change the culture

In spain theres a culture of play acting and racism. In England diving and violent conduct.

In rugby malice and viciousness will make you an outcast. In football its defended.

Siddeeq

“””Creating weak men and teaching them to hate their own countries, and then importing millions of fighting aged men who wholeheartedly agree with them….”””

@Rich, having never won any war since the Roman invasion, means the men have always been weak.
The ‘ millions fighting age men’ will add strength to the gene pool.

Dark Hei

“with kids singing the National Anthem every morning at assembly.”

You mean there are countries that don’t do that?

I mean not every morning but at least once a week right?

Dark Hei

@Siddeq

Only people who hasn’t been to war romanticizes about it.

Markymark

There’ll always be an England
While there’s a country lane
Wherever there’s a cottage small
Beside a field of grain
There’ll always be an England
While there’s a busy street
Wherever there’s a turning wheel
A million marching feet
Red, white and blue
What does it mean to you?

At 7am I just raised the flag up the pole. Right in front of my neighbours

Un

Yes
We are strangling sides yet Raya continues to fuck up every game

Un

Marky
Very nice
Good man
Be proud ✊🏽

Un

Sid We beat napoleon, we beat the ottomans, we beat the Nazis and thwarted the Russians, we destroyed the Spanish in the armada but you’re right in pointing out how how many times we British have been invaded and attacked and managed to defend our tiny little island from the world Now our own have handed it over The proof is the last 3 weeks of non Europeans marching through London screaming for the death of people who live thousands of miles away We need to rid ourselves of this scourge We didn’t ask for this We didn’t vote for… Read more »

Bob N16

Dark Hei, there is no singing of the National anthem in English schools. In primary schools (5-11) tolerance of difference (not nationalistic uniformity) is part of the curriculum, be it cultural background, skin colour, religion is, as it is considered a feature of British values, as is freedom of speech. As an aside, as many will know, in US it is extremely common to have the Stars and Stripes flying in your front garden(if you have one). My cousin, who’s lived there for many years, has a husband born and raised in Huddersfield, who insists on raising the Union Jack… Read more »

Siddeeq

@Dark Hei, agree with you 100%.

@Un, you are a product of a bad education system and i suspect you were average or below average at school.

Siddeeq

“”At 7am I just raised the flag up the pole. Right in front of my neighbours””

My pole is raised at 7 am everyday, but Not infront of the neighbours, thats indecent exposure.

Markymark

Bob good description of our civic school system in the UK.
Sid – an interesting take on UK history omitting every victory. Though admittedly it gets confusing when Richard the Lion Heart didn’t speak a word of English. Mange tout mange tout.
Sad to see my “raising the flag up the pole in front of my neighbours” has gained little traction. When it did previously somebody called the police.

Markymark

Sid – tbf you got it!

Bob N16

Of course Sid ‘got it’.

Samesong

Football and politics do mix. 😉

Terraloon

MG42 While introducing the semi automatic technology is desperately needed, it will likely not arrive in the Premier League soon. One of the key reasons for the delay is that Nike, the official ball of the English top flight, has yet to even test the technology. Adidas currently supplies soccer balls for the CL & EL UEFA tournaments and the Italian league.” The irony of all this is that most, not all, but most of on pitch offside calls are correct. The introduction of VAR yes has rights a few wrongs but not that many. Funnily enough tbe Maguire offside… Read more »

Jj

Never understand people moaning about nationalism, as there’s nothing wrong about it.
Don’t you support your national team during the world cup?
Don’t you support the athletes from your country during Olympics?
I bet you do, and if that is not a nationalism, then I don’t know what is.

Siddeeq

Nationalism is the reason we have nations the size of ranches in Europe. Its an absurd concept.

Un

Sid
😂
You’re such a hypocrite
🇬🇧

Un

Remember the men who fought for freedom this weekend chaps
You wouldn’t have your comfy life style today were it not for those brave men

Jj

UN
Exactly mate, people tend to easily forget about their history, and brave people (not only soldiers) who sacrificed their lifes, so your native tongue is not german for example.

FB

Orwell “The most effective way to destroy people, is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history”

Pierre

Un
“Yes
We are strangling sides yet Raya continues to fuck up every game”

I’m surprised Nigel hasn’t come back at you for making such a ridiculous comment.

Siddeeq

Blutcher a Prussian defeated Napoleone.

Majority that fought the Ottoman were Not from the British isles.

Remember these great men as you enjoy your petty bourgeouise life.

englandsbest

If the aim is to re-assert national pride and national identity, then national service is the answer. A useful period, say one year. With such as the BBC and the police a disgrace, the Armed Forces are an institution the public can trust. And given the threats facing the western world, an inevitability.

Markymark

so your native tongue is not german for example.
Starting with the “Saxe-Coburg-Gotha” mob. First World War caused by old Kaiser Bill’s jealousy and needing to get some martial vigour PR after being caught with his coiteree of pretty boys. The Liebenberg Round Table
Millions dead due to spats within one family. The rest is history as they say.
Doesn’t undermine though the bravery of previous generations who fought to keep the light on in Europe and around the world.