WEDNESDAY ROUND-UP

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We’re hurtling towards the return of Arsenal, and I can’t wait.

Chelsea away.

Sevilla away.

Sheffield United at home.

Those are three great games that bleed into the darkest of Arsenal months… November. Remember those months under Wenger? Always torrid for no reason. Red cards, injuries, SHOCKING results. Hopefully, this is a season we move well and truly beyond crap traditions.

First up…

Chelsea has been in a severe state of uncertainty for quite a while now. They spent 1 billion on a ‘trust the process’ squad and we’re still not sure who is going to work for them. One thing is clear, they do have a lot of talent, so they are NOT to be underestimated. But I think it’s fair to say if we show up, we’ll likely be a little too much for them.

Sevilla away in the Europa Champions League shouldn’t be a consequential game… but we tanked against RC Lens in our second game. A win isn’t imperative, but it would make everyone feel a little less queasy about qualifying. You simply cannot finish outside the top 1 in a Europa League group that somehow managed to make it into the Champions League. It’s quite weird to me that Arteta doesn’t seem to do too well in Europe; he’s a bit like early Wenger in that respect. But, he is only a youngster; plenty of time to learn.

Sheffield United will be an interesting game. I don’t want to say it, you don’t want me to say it, but god damn it I’m gonna say it: We need this game to pump out goal difference.

I am a disgrace, and I know I’ve disrespected the game – but I mean it. Can’t be scraping a 1-1 to a team that took a beastly pasting by Newcastle.

Phase three of the season is a weird chunk – it’s 4 Premier League games and 3 Cup games. 9 points would be ideal. 10 would be great. 12 would set us up a DREAM for the toughest run of the season: The Phase 4 Christmas run.

The big conundrum we have is the League Cup. What to do? We play West Ham. The competition has very little value in 2023, but this season, it does offer a way for our young and fringe players to get valuable minutes they might not get in the Champions League. West Ham are also in Europe, so it’s not a given they’ll go all out in this one… the question is whether Arteta will want to do a Jose Mourinho and get the League Cup win in nice and early.

The last time we won the league cup it was called the Coca Cola Cup – an outrageously elite name. That was one of my first cup finals. My dad took me to see that AND WWF in the same weekend. Sadly, that was the moment I found out the fighting wasn’t real. Sad times. But we won a cup and that made me happy. Wenger never won it. Emery didn’t do well in it. It’s time we defeated the cup.

I’m putting my chips in… this could be our first trophy of the season. Maybe, just maybe, I’ll know what a Carabou is by the end of the season.

Finally, before I go. It’s been wild to watch the growth of the women’s game. The attendances at The Emirates have been outrageous. Arsenal has been trailblazers on this front, they deserve so much credit for pumping ticket promotions and getting fans into the stadium. Obviously, the product has been so good for so many years, and that’s a huge help. What has been a good/bad thing… the popularity of the Women’s Arsenal has grown to the point where it’s adopted the toxicity of the men’s game. I couldn’t believe the rhetoric this week when Arsenal went down to Aston Villa. It was a bit embarrassing but utterly hilarious when Arsenal turned it around and people had to start deleting tweets. It’s a bit sad that a sign of success is when people like the work soooooo much they add poison to the system, but here we are. Congrats to the team for the win.

One business aspect of the Women’s game I find interesting is the relative youthfulness of the crowds that show up. The football is good, the tickets are cheap, it’s an opportunity for parents in a cash-strapped society to give their offspring a nice day out at a great stadium for less money. In the long term, the Women’s game getting kids into their games will be a boon. Those kids will go when they are adults, they’ll watch the games on TV, by the Women’s merch, and eventually take their own kids. I’m not sure the Premier League for Men is doing anywhere near the job with young people. Average age of a season ticket holder is 43; it’s unaffordable to get kids into the ground, longterm, that’s a problem. A whole generation of kids that love football and DON’T go. That’s why getting a bigger supporter section should be imperative. If young people don’t get the live sports bug, they’ll not attend when they are 45 and can afford it. One to watch.

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raptora

I read something interesting yesterday and I guess there is some truth in it. Odegaard – Partey works better than Odegaard – Rice. It kind of feels like Partey and Odegaard were complementing each other perfectly because Partey would stay back, he is a master of progressing the ball, and Odegaard is great at sitting between the lines and using that space. They would know their role, their positions and it was a good, natural partnership. Rice is more of a wrecking ball midfielder, he’s everywhere, he’s not as static as Partey. He drives forward with the ball more than… Read more »

AKINZO

Thank goodness Legrovers are not the ones managing Arsenal. So a manager would just announce after a training that the captainship will change hands merely because one player is t as influential in some games?
Planting Joginho in the starting XI yesterday disrupted the game flow for us. The game simply passed him by but we are the ones who said Arteta does t rotate enough!
It’s good the players managed to rally to take a point.

WengerEagle

I’ll never understand players in the modern game with the sums of money being thrown around not taking their training, dieting and off the field lifestyle seriously so it’s concerning to say the least if ESR has slipped back into old and bad habits. It had a certain charm to it in Merson or Le Tissier boozer days but you just can’t get away with not being ultra-professional anymore, the difference is drastic. I’m a huge fan of ESR and still believe he can make it at Arsenal but he’s got to slim down and get into better condition and… Read more »

Belfast Gooner

Such a disappointing performance yesterday. Am I alone in thinking we are far too predictable going forward? We don’t move the ball forward quickly. You can generally see a move developing and have a very good idea of where the next 3-4 passes are going. Gooner fella I know says it’s all because everyone plays a low block against us. He thinks we’ve been brilliant this season. Suffice to say he also claims it was Arteta’s in game management that secured the draw last night and that it was down to Havertz that Trossard was able to equalise. We never… Read more »

Ken

Un
October 21, 2023 21:23:11
Owen farrel
Legend
Swwwinng loooow
Sweat chariot
Coming forth to carry me home
Fuck Ireland

Hahahaha..
The gift that keeps on giving. Never learns.
“Sweat” chariot lol

WengerEagle

Ken

Was hilarious, I knew it was coming as soon as I saw the comment.

salparadisenyc

The biggest key to yesterday will be the response over next couple matches, the overall consensus has to be a shocker from nearly all involved. Said it last night think that was likely Ødegaards worst outing since the loan season could say same for Saka who didn’t look fit but the eventual quality came thru in that cross but if were rating his overall performance it was weak.

The bounce back is key, that and going with our best in form XI which doesn’t include Jorginho, Raya or Zinchenko at moment.

G8

Jorginho is the weak link in midfield, he cost us 2 points against the scum when he lost the ball unchallenged and against Fulham when he came on 84 mins and we were 2/1 up, then Palhinha equalized 3 mins later.
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Yesterday, we lost the midfield battle because he slowed the forward play, held on the ball unnecessarily too long, and then passed it backwards and sideways!
Midfield battle is where you win the big games

jwl

An interview with Lauren and his mixed emotions about Tuesday match –

“And twice a Premier League winner, the team that took the 2003‑04 title doing so without losing a single match – and an Invincible is always an Invincible. “I found that out this summer,” he says. “I was with Arsenal in Washington, New Jersey and Los Angeles – people there were stopping us. You never imagine it, but it’s incredible how much love they have for our team, our era.”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/oct/22/lauren-arsenal-sevilla-mikel-arteta

Matt B

G8: It was a point gained. Shite performance but excellent result given how the game played out.

Odegaard was poor last night and I think it’s clear to all, that we’re not playing like we did last year. I think we’re actually quite boring to watch — slow and ponderous in attack.

Once Partey is back, I’m sure we’ll improve but the lack of creativity is a bit of a problem atm

Josip Skoblar

So far in the season, my big shout out to…
Rice
Bill
Big Gaby
White
Martinelli
Trossard.
The rest can do better or, sometimes, much better.

Terraloon

G8 Jorginho is the weak link in midfield, he cost us 2 points against the scum when he lost the ball unchallenged and against Fulham when he came on 84 mins and we were 2/1 up, then Palhinha equalized 3 mins later. . Yesterday, we lost the midfield battle because he slowed the forward play, held on the ball unnecessarily too long, and then passed it backwards and sideways! Midfield battle is where you win the big games It was obvious to anyone who watched Jorginho at Chelsea was his style is predictable in that when he makes himself available… Read more »

Chris

Not a great performance, but got a point out of nowhere, could even have nicked it.

Moving on to Tuesday, I want to see Arteta architect a strong European performance away from home in a hostile atmosphere. It’s now a must not lose game. I think the whole season so far there is more in our locker than we have been showing and we will likely need more on Tuesday to come away with anything. As it stands the group is very open, 4 points from the 2 games with Sevilla is a minimum.

Rich

Josip

Saka has 4 goals + 3 assists in 8 PL games
1 goal + 2 assists in 2 CL games
1 assist in the Community Shield.

Surprised he does make your list.

Josip Skoblar

Rich
Point taken. Let’s add Saka to the list although he seems to be struggling at times. He had a hard time with Cucurella yesterday.

Marko

I wonder if the club is thinking about a LB in January. I think whatever is going on with the Zinchenko role works when he’s in possession but when he’s not basically Gabriel and Martinelli and whoever is the 6 has to cover for him. It becomes so convoluted and unnecessarily when you consider it was much better last season. But again broken record in saying that the manager didn’t need to change it and that the football is much worse because of it

Marko

Has to be said that the recruitment in recent seasons has gotten a lot of credit but we finished second last season and spent 200 million last summer and right now I think everyone would agree that we still need a proper striker, back up for Saka, a number 8 and at least one defender. That’s a lot honestly.

raptora

I’m not sure we should put the blame for losing the midfield on Jorginho. Even with Partey there we would still have a lot of problems. They had three strong midfielders in Enzo, Caicedo and Connor. The options were to focus our efforts on the wings – try our best to move the ball to Marti and Saka, which we actually tried I feel like but it didn’t really work as Chavs’ full backs did good and we didn’t find enough space to make them uncomfortable. Or the other option was to work out their CBs and attack from there.… Read more »

Marko

When a team puts all their effort into winning the midfield, and Arteta plays Odegaard even if we have Rice and Partey we’d be doomed

I think people are reading far too much into the Odegaard stuff. He’s one of our best players and if there’s questions to be asked of some of his performances I think you need to question the manager more because for example yesterday it was everyone who was bad and he was unable to change it. Sure the player should share some of the blame but when everyone is bad that’s on the coach

Marko

Calling for Havertz over Odegaard is the definition of hindsight

raptora

Marko, Give me another midfield that deals with Enzo, Caicedo and Connor? We don’t have many options do we? They have 3 players that can do the dirty work, we have what?! One and a half? I kept saying how impressed I would have been if we had won the game. Why do you think I was saying that? Cause I knew it was going to be a tough game. Havertz is best at CF and our strongest team yesterday would have been with him at CF. BUT the only way we could have won the midfield was with him… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

The wheels are well and truly starting to wobble and at least one has fallen off.

Raya looks like a dumpster fire. His first game was a masterclass in goalkeeping but since then, he looks terrible.

Havertz is shite.

2-2 against Chelsea looks okay but in reality, we were dreck. Another salvaged draw.

Seville has nothing to be worried about.

My biggest fear is we will buy Toney. If that happens, I’ll stop any form of support for Arsenal FC.

raptora

“They have 3 players that can do the dirty work, we have what?! One and a half?” By saying that, I’m aware there was a midfield of Busquets, Xavi and Iniesta shitting all over every other midfield out there. I think it’s fair to say we’re not at that level yet and three worker bees like the ones in Chavs’ midfield (top talents at least two of them) caused us many problems. If we play vs most teams our midfield three wouldn’t matter as much as we would fancy ourselves to win it regardless, but versus the serious teams with… Read more »

salparadisenyc

Ødegaard is becoming (has become) one of those figures within this space that takes the brunt of the rage. A few on here literally have the vibe they’d rather see him fail with club following than having to admit his talents as it would completely fuck their chosen agenda. I find that creepy in all kinds of manner. Ødegaard is currently not on form, was poor again this weekend but he will get there as will Jesus, Martinelli and Saka. All have been lesser than what we’ve come to expect. Imagine for a second we are sitting joint top of… Read more »

Matt B

GoH: Why?

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Peter taking ages to write new Blog
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Thinking how he can defend Raya

Bob N16

GoH you have a strange way of supporting the club- at least on here! Putting a bad performance into perspective- they needed plenty of luck, a soft penalty and a mishit cross which perfectly lobbed our keeper and we still drew away from home. We need to find our form but if we continue to pick up points, just maybe we can time our run to the title, to peak in the last couple of months. Check out the table, it’s not as bleak as some might imply. (Guns etc) Not saying a Zinchenko upgrade is not starting to look… Read more »

GD4

“ Even though there is a crazed religious crank on here who calls me racist –” I see Marky of the Beast can’t get over being exposed like a coach roach when the light comes on. Only in this case, the Mickey Mouse has allowed his senile drug polluted mind to forget that his own words exposed him. Lemme remind the Mickey Mouse clown of his own words: “It appears Inaki imposes players into the system once he’s had a chat with Arteta in Basque / Catalan / Spanish ( help me here Siddeeq) then deals done. It just appears… Read more »

GD4

*Cockroach.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

The writing is on the wall… Arteta is a lost soul… His tactics to complicated that it’s confusing the players….
Should have kept KT… Chenko .. one trick pony….
The goalie fiasco has unsettled the whole squad…
Arteta had brought it on him self

georgia boy

Agree w sal. Some of yall are fruitier than a nut cake.

MidwestGun

Find it hard to blame Odegaard.. when Poch flooded the whole midfield with 6 players.. they had no striker, like at all. It was a good strategy to clog our midfield but should have left them impotent for goals. But they fluked 2.. because handball and shanked cross goal. As soon as they subbed with 15 mins to go, and went back to traditional setup with a number 9.. the new kid.. forget his name. And tried to play us more straight forward we scored 2 goals quickly. In addition Ode had no partner. Rice is still learning the #8… Read more »

Markymark

GOH – do you solemnly swear to uphold your oath including removal of your good-self from this forum. Upon the purchase of Ivan Toney…..

Right guys let’s get the whip started ! Tony in Thailand can lend us £70m . Spare change for him

Markymark

GD4 – keep it up young man. Surprised it’s taken you so long to reply . As I’ve said before we have people of all political stripes on here but only one religious crank . Hallelujah bruv! From your favourite beast 666. See you soon down below 👇

Bob N16

Midwest, of course lots of our players were poor but Odegaard, our captain, was particularly ineffectual. He may not have had ‘a partner’ to the left of him but he’s fortunate to have one of the best RW in the PL to the right of him. He was well off, as he was against City. I love his effort and commitment and when he’s on his game he’s outstanding but with other options available I’d be tempted to manage his workload and rotate.

Arteta is improving his squad management but he’s still learning.

Markymark

🔥 🔥 😈

MidwestGun

Bob .. Saka was way off his game as well wasn’t getting much support there. No player should play every game, that’s more or less a given.. But not sure ESR or Vieira would have done better.

People beating him with the Captain thing is weird if you ask me.

Un

Don’t know why everyone is whining
ESR has looked one of our better players this season even from the bench

raptora

sal, We’re giving ideas on how to become better. I said a point yesterday is not the end of the world. We’re in a great position regardless. Not sure about the usage of the word creepy in there but I’ve given plaudits to Ode when he deserves it. He’s not been on form is an understatement. We’re almost 3 months into the season, when is he going to come online, and he’s had no injuries either to break his rhythm like say Marti or Partey? Rough data from https://understat.com/player/2517 Odegaard Expected assists vs Forest 0.07 vs Palace 0.07 vs Fulham… Read more »

Siddeeq

Saliba, Saka, Martinelli will easily get in the 1st 11 of Man and Liverpool.
Ode its doubtful, that has nothing to do with wanting to see him fail

Guns of Hackney

100% goddam yes I will never grace this forum if we buy Toney. It’ll say more about us as a club that is built on hypocrisy and virtue signalling. It will smack of desperation and quite frankly, after the Havertz signing, do any of you trust Arteta? Because I do not. Bob N16. Timber will probably be back but he will not be the same player. He will almost certainly be slower, less physical and more injury prone. That injury is a career ender. We haven’t looked decent all season and that bothers me as we have spent over £200m.… Read more »

raptora

Yeah, man. I want Ode to fail? Lolzers!

local

Ode & Saka have lost the ball under pressure from behind a number of times since second half of last season.

I had similar concerns with Maddison. however like Foden he has used his ball control & awareness to turn his marker at least the 2/3 time I have watched him play this season.

Unless these guys learn to keep the ball under pressure we will continue to struggle against good pressing.

salparadisenyc

Raptora

That wasn’t pointed at you regarding Ø, more to the militant factions of this space that just see RED regardless.

Bob N16

Saying that we’ve spent £200m does not take into account our sales which were £60/70m. Let’s call it a £135m spend.

Your crystal ball is a marvellous thing Guns. Suggesting Timber might as well be put down is catastrophising in the extreme.

local

Also it’s water under the bridge now, but I would have preferred a balanced midfielder like Paqueta or J. Ramsey or even Gibbs-White.

Rich

Rap We’re still joint top, and unbeaten in the league. We’re giving up very few chances…. But I suppose that’s in spite of Ødegaard, instead of wanting to credit him with being apart of that. Before the Chelsea game. Odegaard had applied more pressures than any other player in the Premier League this season (253), while he’s also the only player to have made 100+ in both the middle third (111) and attacking third (112). It’s that pressure that allows us to limit opposition chances, and even limit them from getting into dangerous areas to begin with. Not just Ødegaard…… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Bob

That injury historically has been literally the end of anyone that’s received it. Maybe he’ll play again but not at any capacity. Ergo, he’s a lame duck.

I hate that we didn’t sell Partey. That was an easy £40m but for some reason we thought a player that might get 10 games this season was worth it.

I’m genuinely perplexed about Arsenal. I don’t see the vision. I don’t see that plan or what our goals were or are.

Marko

Give me another midfield that deals with Enzo, Caicedo and Connor? I mean Chelsea up until recently have struggled so quite a few deals with that midfield. This Chelsea team aren’t great it’s just that we played so shit we made them look better than what they actually are. Look the Odegaard stuff I think is mostly down to the way we’re playing this season and a little bit of him too for sure but I wouldn’t be so quick to lynch him honestly he’s been great since joining. But as sal said there’s people out there waiting for him… Read more »

Markymark

GOH – I think that Arteta is not going to get the universal love of say Klopp at Liverpool. I suspect there will be a few issues I’ll be concerned about one of which is quite obvious around the keepers and the malign influence of Cana. and dodgy keeper whispering ( god help us if that is in basque ) However I separate that from the other players / team and would remain supportive of Arteta even if ESR goes. You spend so much energy into the negative and destructive. Your predictions have been mostly wrong. Funny enough my predictions… Read more »

raptora

Rich, Are we at the point where we’re going to praise Ode for his defensive contribution to excuse his shocking offensive stats? Cause that’s what they are. For a top talent, the stats are shocking. Nothing wrong with accepting what it is. Maybe playing him over and over again is the recipe for him to become better, but it’s still fine to talk about his problems when there are such. And currently he’s hit a wall. How long this goes for, I hope it ends this week. But so far, he’s not been at the expected level. Are you happy… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Marky mark

I will remain a misanthrope and continue listening to Morrisey thank you very much.

Heaven knows I’m miserable now.

salparadisenyc

Hackney please tell me you’ve got Some girls are bigger than others inked across your pectorals.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Rap
16,36

Excellent point well made.

Guns of Hackney

Sal

I will now!

Inspirational.

raptora

Other than the Bournemouth game, Ode has 0.48 expected assists over 8 games. We, as a team, are 15th in the big chances category surrounded with relegation fodders. We need to look at what can we do to fix the problem, because, yes, we are in a great spot really. But we’ve gotten away with a few results, we probably won’t get 5 pens in 8 rounds again in the near future. We are having issues being dangerous. Vs Sheffield, it’s expected that it won’t matter exactly how we line up, but versus Newcastle away in 2 weeks? That’s a… Read more »

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

I personally would stick with Eddie… he will turn in to a prolific goal scorer…

His instinct to go for goal just needs to be greedier,…

MidwestGun

Ode is never going to be Ozil, Cesc, Maddison, KDB, Silva, etc… people trying to make him something he is not. He is gonna be more Lampard then anything. Goal scoring from the midfield with a good all around game. You can’t discount goals from the midfield when your looking at stats, And he gets marked out in big games because our balance is off. Havertz,, Rice, Vieira and whomever else we tried on the left haven’t exactly created space for him by being any kind of threat. Anyhow. It kind of is what it is.. until we find an… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Lolling all the way to the bank.

Eddie will never ever be a prolific forward. He is not at this level. He would do okay in Scotland or the lower leagues, but he’s not a prem forward.

Let’s leave that one there.

Also, Havertz isn’t coming good. He’s scored one goal, a pen, handed to him and contributed zero to our plight.

Be more critical.

MG42

WTF is this with the Chavs having plenty of luck, we had the same a GK error gifted us the 1st goal and Trossard benefiting from the Chavs shitty defending. Yesterday’s game was not my Arsenal playing, it was unrecognizable. Who put the game plan together, didn’t Arteta know about their midfield? Did Poch have his number? Who put the starting XI together? Combine that with the players bought in the summer TW and you have your answer, a manager that is a stubborn amateur. Please don’t give me the shit about salvaging a point, how low has the bar… Read more »

Dissenter

The way we are playing right now tells me we will struggle every time a team stands up to us and gets in our faces, from the get go.
That’s what Fulham did earlier in the season
We will struggle against mid table teams like. West Ham, Villa, Brighton etc .

MidwestGun

MG42October 8, 2023 02:07:04
Arteta has met Pep 7 times in the EPL and lost every time, Sunday evening it will be 8 times and if Pool or BHA plus Villa win, Arsenal will be 5th with trailing City by 4. Enjoy the pain on Sunday and many will then analyze why we are playing worst than last season and it all will point to only one person.
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MG42 aren’t you the dude who said this before the City Game? Your predictions are a bit shit. Enjoy the pain indeed.

Bob N16

RSPCA- Eddie is not lacking in greed, he’s lacking in finishing ability. I do agree that the Havertz signing was an odd one. Even if Arteta and Edu felt he was worth buying, Chelsea were desperate to cash in and the wages he demanded meant that we overpaid by at least £20m. If he was bought as a worthwhile gamble/ squad member at the lower price, it would be much easier to justify. You’d have thought a Xhaka role replacement should have been much more straightforward to identify, given the uncertainty of Havertz’s most effective position. As a multi positional,… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Bob

While I agree medicine and techniques have got better, that particular injury is still an absolute bastard. I liked timber. He had good energy, looked like an absolute bargain but once that happened, one has to put all the love aside and say “he’s done and we need to move on”.

MG42

@Midwest
That dude is spot one when considering that “Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while”. Its called he lucked out but then his true abilities become evident in the next few games. As someone already posted Seville has nothing to fear.

Guns of Hackney

Thirty years ago, an ACL injury was career-ending, but today, thanks to arthroscopy and refined surgical techniques, most athletes are able to return to sports. Happily, the answer to the above question is most likely a yes – but with qualifications. Are teams’ injury crises down to bad luck or bad management? While most do return, future performance is still hazy. Recovery time and post-surgery performance depends both on sport and position. “The differences are related to the physical requirements of not only each sport, but position on the field or court as well,” says Kyle Aune, author of ACL… Read more »

Rich

Rap I’m willing to look past the offensive output of our forwards, not completely, but to a certain point, as long as we’re competitive and winning games. Dominating the game in the oppositions half both with and without the ball…. Is as much about defending as it is about attacking. Teams don’t pass to move the ball, they pass to move the opposition. Players don’t necessarily move to receive the ball either…. They move to manoeuvre the opposition.. If we commit more players to attack, the opposition have to commit more players to defend, and that’s how teams create territorial… Read more »

raptora

GoH, please stop it. Pastor Timber is my favorite. He has the physical and mental quality to deal with the injury however nasty it is. I fancy him to come back and become an Arsenal legend.

Fella predicted his future years ago. Said he sees himself playing for Arsenal. He made his dream come true. He ain’t stopping now. The injury has set him back but he’ll come stronger than ever.

Bob N16

F*ck me MG42- it appears you’re having a bit of a moment. Chelsea ‘ shitty defending’ or Saka spotting Trossard at the far post and delivering the ball to him perfectly. That was an excellent goal, sure Rice’s goal was from a misplaced pass but the finish was perfection. Contrast those two goals with a soft penalty( do we really expect defenders to jump with their arms by their sides?) and one of the jammiest mishit crosses you’ll ever see. ‘Not my Arsenal playing’ that sounds like a comment a spoilt child might come out with. Arsenal’s performances, like most… Read more »

MidwestGun

Also Arteta is 41… Postecoglou is 57… not exactly the same generation. At least get your generations right if your gonna use it as an insult.

Wayne Rooney, Vincent Kompany, Potter, De Zerbi closer to Arteta’s age.

Bob N16

You’re depressing me Guns, again I hope you’re wrong!

Karsa

Guns, do you tell your customers that the boilers you fit will probably leak?

Naija+soccer

Why cant Arteta just play Trossard in the left 8. Yes I know he bought Havertz but he’s a striker and a sub midfielder.

Play Trossard and Odegaard with Rice behind them. So even if Odegaard gets marked out of games, Trossard is another avenue we can operate from. Plus he’s a big game player.

Naija+soccer

There are certain games that doesn’t suit Martinelli on that left, especially against low block teams. In those games Trossard should be starting every time.

Naija+soccer

The reason why we can seem so boring in games is that Martinelli as much as I like him can be a dull blade on that left wing sometimes.

Instead of Arteta trying to be too clever talking about “we need to be less predictable”, just mix in guys like Nelson, Trossard, ESR, Partey, Vieira in your starting line up from time to time as they all bring different strengths and possibilities to the team. That adds variety and unpredictability to your team .

Foxy

Trossard, Odegaard and Rice sounds good going forward but maybe not with Zinchenko at LB but a more defensive LB who will cover the left side behind Trossard and invert alongside Rice as needed.

bacaryisgod

Bob

No matter what, the common result of these injuries is that the player won’t be back to peak performance for several months. I disagree with our resident bomb-throwner GoH but we should be prepared for Timber to not look impressive for quite some while. Let’s shoot for January 2025 to see him back to full speed. Unfortunately, at that point we’re also getting close to contract renewal.

Naija+soccer

In certain games, start Nelson or Jesus on the left instead of Saka, Play Trossard or ESR on the right instead of Martinelli, rest Rice start Partey, rest Partey start Rice, bench Zinchenko start Tomi, bench White start Tomi, play Havertz in Odegaard position bench Ode, play ESR in Odegaard’s position sometimes, we already know he is very good there and has quite the ridiculous understanding with Saka on that side. Do all these things from time to time, and the team will 1) Be much fun to watch and less boring 2) It gives players rest throughout the season(Saka,Ode… Read more »

G

‘’ The wheels are well and truly starting to wobble and at least one has fallen off.‘’

Lol that’s why we’re joint top

Un

Marko That’s an incredibly narrow minded take People don’t want ESR because he’s English They want him beacuse he’s a hale end graduate that took the league by storm at 20 years old from the moment he was brought into the team. He turned us around He’s one of our own. Cesc was adored from the moment he wore the cannon. So was anelka. So was rvp. Toure. Their nationality didn’t come into it. Some people love Maddison. Not because he’s English but because he’s a very good player that creates and scored goals I agree that the talk around… Read more »

Naija+soccer

Foxy

Yeah play Tomiyasu or Kiwior in such games to give that side the right balance and just ball.

It’s all about getting the mixing and matching right. And that’s where I feel we have struggled this season. Haven’t quite got the balance right.

Un

Mg42 hasn’t ever watched arsenal play live
Yes he talks about “his” arsenal? What a lemon 🍋

Mikel Coneteta

Ollie Watkins is a baller, so is Douglas Luiz.

Villa’s best players by a distance.

raptora

Ollie Watkins is in the form of his life.
Sadly, gonna turn 28 in December.

MG42

Bob aka Tets Fanboy “a soft penalty” Do you know actually the hand ball rule? Under this shitty rule that is not a soft penalty it is a 100% penalty. Agreed the law needs to be changed as the pundits argue but it was not a soft penalty. Did you see the space Trossard was in? What do you attribute that to? “Arsenal’s performances, like most teams come in all ‘shapes and sizes’.” Spoken like true Arteta excusenic. That starting XI was a disaster and for 77 minutes Arsenal was playing like a bottom half table team. Who set up… Read more »

raptora

To put in perspective how players develop over time, how it’s not a linear process, and it’s so different with everyone – when Watkins was Nketiah’s age, he was a LW/RW for Brentford in Championship and had just scored 10 goals in 41 games. Look at him now.

Markymark

Jesus H – if this site was actually a real physical space we’d have GOH and MG42 in sack cloth and ashes holding placards telling us we were doomed,.
As I’dwalk past them to find where Bob is having his pint of Ale and Un a Guinness . I’d seriously then have to dodge Pastor GD42 or whoever he is thumping his bible and hell fire preaching. It’s so end times on here. You’d never guess we are joint top.

Chris

We signed Ian Wright when he was 29 I think.

I’d rather Watkins than Toney. Not much chance Villa sell though.

raptora

Villa are looking good.

G8

Arteta out
Emery in
lol

Rich

Markymark

I’d be holding a placard saying:

“Western Civilisation is on the verge of collapse, but at least Arsenal have a competitive team with some excellent players… Every Cloud”….

MG42

@Marymark
Let me fix your comment:
If this site was actually a real physical space we’d have Bob N16, Marymark, G, AFCForever and Un like ostriches sticking their heads into the sand with a placard stuck to their rear nothing to worry our generational manager will win silverware.

Markymark

MG42 – I’m glad you’ve put me in with the positive mob. I’m definitely a glass half full type of guy!

Markymark

Rich – I’m liking it!

Naija+soccer

Why is Tomas soucek in the no 10 position and they ve got Mohammed kudus coming off the bench anyway. Play paqueta there and put Kudus on the team

Siddeeq

Last season the favourite phrase was “we are top of the table” then the wheels came off

That has evolved to “we are joint top”. Lets hope GOH is Not right.

Mikel Coneteta

Raptora

Was there a point to your irrelevant comparison between Watkins and Nketiah?

GD4

Here we go again with the “look at a the table “ argument again.
We know how last season ended when some pointed out our obvious flaws and were told to “ go support Spurs” or “ look at the fcuking table”

Tired minds making the same lame arguments …

Siddeeq

Good news is, Sevilla midfield 3 is Sow and 2 of

Fernando (EPL retiree)
Lamela (EPL Spurs retiree)
Rakitic (Geriatric)

We will bounce back

You can take this to the bank!

Bob N16

MG42- as soon as you ‘accused’ me of being Arteta apologist, I put your comments in the same category as most of the rest of your ‘takes’. Simplifying my questioning of your statements by suggesting I’m must be blinkered by my loyalty to Arteta says so much more about your inability to argue effectively as it does any misplaced loyalty I may or may not have. “Arsenal’s performances, like most teams come in all ‘shapes and sizes’.” Spoken like true Arteta excusenic. My comment could be altered to pretty much any club a supporter is following – ‘like most teams’.… Read more »