WHO TO SELL?

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Welcome to FriYAY people; we have lots of things to talk about. But first, take a moment to congratulate yourself for getting through a week of international break things. Ok, we feeling good?

Let’s get into it.

Jack Wilshere has been linked with a move to Colorado Rapids in MLS. The same conference as my team. I visited the away day there. Loads of nice people, close to the mountains, a team that is not doing so well – plenty of food for thought. Jack Wilshere bringing Arsenal football to America? I don’t hate it people. I’m glad he’s pursuing all options and it’s interesting to see Josh K roll out his young rookie coach strategy on another club.

There are some rumblings that Arsenal will have to sell to buy in January. John Cross reckons Ivan T could be on the list for Arsenal, but it ain’t gonna be easy, and it ain’t gonna be cheap.

My gut on this one? If we’re selling anyone it’s going to be Aaron Ramsdale. I think his cheering from the dugout and ‘I WILL FIGHT FOR MY PLACE’ vibes will last for about 4 more games when he realizes the path back into the first team is blocked barring a massive injury to David Raya. He’s a great keeper, he’ll have a market value, the question is whether anyone is in that sort of need in January. £40m would be my number, but that’s because I’m biased. It’ll be interesting to see if Brentford might be interested in him? Not sure their current keeper is up to much – Aaron will take minutes – it could make sense.

England gave a debut to Eddie Nketiah but he didn’t start ahead of Ollie Watkins. The Villa man has been on fire this season, so deserved his place. But Eddie getting minutes means Chris Hughton’s dream of taking him to Ghana is now OVER. Still, for all the Eddie slanderers, it’s nice to see him get an England cap. He has a long way to go to be an Arsenal first choice striker, but he’s had lots of minutes and he’s played in a team that’s winning. Arsenal doesn’t win with 10 men, so he’s clearly at a very high level. He has to score more goals if he wants to be taken seriously for England when Kane is out of contention.

Newcastle is apparently eyeing up Emile Smith Rowe in January for £50m. If we get a bid like that, no doubt we’ll sell, the question would be… does he make them stronger? To be honest, I don’t think that would be a question Arsenal would care about asking, we’d just sell him and be done with it if money like that crossed the table. The only way we don’t see him exit is if he starts delivering with the minutes he’s given. I watched Tom Brady do one o of those ‘Here’s how to be like me’ TikTok posts. He said he was only given 2 minutes to practice with the first team. It pissed him off. Then a coach said ‘treat those 2 minutes like it was your Superbowl. So he did. He went really hard at it, brought energy to training, then he started getting 4 minutes. Then 4 turned into 20. Then he became a KING! You get the gist… Emile has to think like that if he wants to get back to the promised land. Or he could just take a fat move to Newcastle.

Finally, Victor Oshimen has fallen out with Napoli after their social media manager called him a coconut on TikTok. An absolutely WILD thing for someone to think, let alone post on the Serie A Champions social page. Needless to say, the striker wants out, and Arsenal has been linked as a suitor. I love the player, but I can’t see him exiting for less than £120m. Is he £60m better than Ivan Toney? Who knows. But Italian papers say we might swap Victor for Jesus. If the Italians can’t be arsed to put together a plausible swap, it’s not worth dreaming about.

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WengerEagle

What opinions am I hiding from Nigel? I’ve been on here for 10 odd years at this stage and unlike plenty I’ve never changed my Moniker unlike you who has half a dozen odd from times you’ve embarrassed yourself over the years. Ramsdale was a clear weakness in the team and the fact that your messiah recognised that but you still don’t speak volumes about how daft you are. White also was never going to make it as an elite CB here, Saliba is levels better than White was in his first season here at a CB. He’s reinvented himself… Read more »

jwl

My starting 11 since I started paying attention to arsenal in ’95 but I think it would be disjointed, maybe swap RVP for Saka.

Lehman
Lauren
Adams
Saliba
Cole
Gilberto
Vieira
Cesc
Bergkamp
Henry
RVP

jwl

Nigel is Bamford, you’s all wasting your time responding to him.

raptora

Nigel: “I understand and have sympathy that ignorant people don’t get it.., but it’s not just another opinion when it’s from the manager and Edu… because those decisions are informed. First because they have all the information, training, scouts, coaches and more football knowledge in their tiniest toe than you and I put together. We know nothing in comparison.” Also Nigel: “All good commenters, but they have wanted so many players that are rubbish over the years” If you are talking about Caicedo and Mudryk, who I wanted, let me open up your horizon a little bit so you can… Read more »

Markymark

Looks like the Taliban will be celebrating tonight! How on earth did England get themselves into this position ?!?

FB

Best XI and bench

John Lukic
Lee Dixon
Nigel Winterburn
Michael Thomas
David O’Leary
Tony Adams
David Rocastle
Kevin Richardson
Alan Smith
Steve Bould
Paul Merson

Subs
Perry Groves
Martin Hayes

Some of you will know what I’ve done here 🙂

Markymark

Sheikh Jassim Qatari wealth syndicate now rumoured in for Spurs after pulling out of UTD

englandsbest

Arteta pursued Ramsdale relentlessly, paid a great deal of money for him. His enthusiasm and commitment is inspirational. It’s hard to see Arteta giving up on him. He is the embodiment of Arsenal ‘soul’ and fighting spirit. Arteta is waiting to hear Ramsdale say ‘I’ve listened, watched, learned, and I’m ready.’ That’s when he’ll be back as a first choice GK option.

Markymark

FB – no Wenger purchases I Presume? Martin Hayes though really ? I liked Richardson he’d come out of the title winning Everton team hadn’t he. Thought he was class and had winning mentality . No one has picked Mickey Thomas I notice

Markymark

Ramsdale has just appeared on the Fly Emirates advert with Saka. He looks a lot better than doleful little legs Raya. On that basis alone Ramsdale should get the gig!

Zacharse

MarkymarkOctober 15, 2023 16:51:14 Sheikh Jassim Qatari wealth syndicate now rumoured in for Spurs after pulling out of UTD oh my, what schizoid outfit that would become Also, Ramsdale isn’t BAD imho- he’s young, impulsive, possibly a bit stubborn etc. if they don’t sell him and he wants to stay, i have no doubt this trying period for him will teach him a new trick or two, possibly from Raya directly who will also settle and get better. GK is a tough position and on top of that we have 20 years of hoodoo to get rid of – i’m… Read more »

Markymark

Taliban best England by 69 wins. Crazy stuff !

FB

Markymark

It was the Anfield 1989 team

I’ll get my coat

raptora

eb, Look at this image: https://twitter.com/VipArsenal/status/1712412982586589570 It’s Rams and Raya’s heatmaps. Raya is playing way higher than Rams. Look at this: https://twitter.com/hamis_abas/status/1712485031497842697/photo/1 Raya is miles better in possession. Look at this https://twitter.com/DataMB_/status/1712850082595221608/photo/1 Ramsdale has literally the worst save % in the league and is negative on the “goals prevented” stat. Raya is literally the best rated keeper in this – yes, Areola is also up there and for a reason as he’s having an incredible start of the season and that speaks about the legitimacy of this table. It was similar last season as well where Raya had saved Brentford… Read more »

Markymark

FB oh for fuck sake – I missed Thomas in that line up hence my comment! Yep should have spotted that straight away . I seemed to have remembered Hayes from the early 80’s period id forgot he’d played till later in the decade

raptora

Trying to win the PL where fine margins matter, I was against paying 30m for Raya. Getting him on loan might turn out a masterstroke. An upgrade on the GK, especially knowing how important that position for Arsenal is, isn’t even a fine margin. It’s a big move that could make, not a small one, but a huge difference. The GK starts the attacks and Raya has literally been playing like an extra defender in moving the ball up the pitch, his passing range is miles ahead of Rams. And in addition he is better at literally everything. There are… Read more »

Markymark

Rap – the Twats as you put it will stop when he has 4-5 solid games in a row . Time will tell

FB

Markymark

Good times. It was the Gorgeous George masterstroke of playing O’Leary in front of the famous Back Four.

Markymark

FB – sadly I didn’t get to see it live in Merseyside but remember the disbelief of watching it on TV with Mickey suddenly breaking through.

FB

TV for me too. Had a season ticket but nowhere near enough away game points to get a ticket.

raptora

Eb says Arteta pursued Ramsdale relentlessly and will be back as first GK option. Why would Arteta put at risk the spirit of the squad by benching such a popular character like Rams? To teach him a lesson? By that logic I expect our next transfer to be Bellingham to teach Havertz a thing or two. Raya turned 28 years just 1 month ago. He could easily be our GK for the next 5 years. In addition, he wanted Raya before Rams was even in the picture in his first ever summer as an Arsenal manager – https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/sep/17/brentford-goalkeeper-arsenal-david-raya-transfer-window-bids-rejected To follow… Read more »

jwl

David Oleary has 722 appearances for Arsenal, a club record, that I first learned just a few of hours ago on gooner twitter. It’s amazing to me because I just think of him as a Leeds/Villa manager because I only pay attn since ’95. I knew he played for us but I had no idea he here for so long.

englandsbest

raptora

Yes, Raya may be better (stats-wise) now (tho’ he didn’t look that way first-half last game) but Ramsdale is listening, looking, learning – so let’s see who’s first choice come February.

Markymark

JWL – O’Leary was there throughout the 70’s youngest Arsenal captain till Adam’s. Roberto Bettega nearly broke his leg I remember during that great double header against Juve. I always wondered if he’d had some sort of snub during the Leeds manager days as he seemed to get very snippy. Anyway I think he’s back in the fold as an ambassador for us. That’s a good thing he had an immense career for us during times of change and slim pickings but he was there during 79’ as well as 87’ and 89’

Markymark

FB – I think around 87’ I bought a standing season ticket off a painter and decorator for £50. They got them as freebies as part of painting the ground. Different world back then wasn’t it.

Un

There are teething problems but he’s literally played 6 games for us, including 2 of our most important games of the season vs Spuds and City. If ya’ll had time for Rams, then give the same time to Raya instead of being twats.

Rap
1) y’all? Wtf. Who do you think you are Beyoncé?
2) don’t remember Rambo having such issues in his first 6 games

Markymark

Un – that’s right fighting talk for the Ram!

We all know Raya’s supposed 6ft is made up 1.5 inch heel extensions in his boots and 2” of sticky up barnet. When he was flapping about and out of position and only saved by the saintly Declan. The goal was literally swallowing him up. Stats my arse. Let’s see 5-6 solid mistake free games and then we will see

raptora

Don: “don’t remember Rambo having such issues in his first 6 games”

Yeah, just for 2 seasons and 4 games.

Markymark

If my theory of Raya’s height is correct ( I admit I may be wrong ) I stand 7” taller than this midget. And if he is 6ft at least 4”. I’d be plucking balls out of the air with just one arm raised whilst he’d have to leap like a salmon. Don’t trust small keepers!

Markymark

Rap – if he was that bad he’d have lost his place to your countryman . He’s had amazing games for us has the Ram

kjelli

was watching the pippa monique vlog of the city game.. we are maybe getting a little used to
last minutes goals in our games !! it won’t last we have to score more goals earlier.. lets do it next
weekend and hope spurs will draw..

jwl

Markymark – I’m glad to hear it because I like it when clubs bring back their former players as employees/ambassadors, Oleary obviously important player for us.

raptora

Marky,
To make another push for the title, imo Arteta has already made his choice regarding who he wants to be our starting GK. Now it’s up to Raya to prove him right and to Ramsdale to prove him wrong. I’m not saying it’s done and dusted but unless things dramatically change, it kind of is.

Markymark

Rap – I think you’re right.
I am having a bit of a snarky dig here and there but that is based on a feeling that the great Raya PR campaign was sent our direction and I sniffed bullshit. If he’d had 5 amazing games this would have been absolutely fine, but frankly he’s screwed up.
We can say whatever we like but if he fucks up in front of the aways or the Emirates he will start getting verbal brickbats it comes with the territory

Mysticleaves

Hah!. Ramsdalians in disarray. There hasn’t been a clearer gap between 2 players statwise like in Raya and Rams.

Mysticleaves

Marky suport the lads

Markymark

Mystic leaves you are having a laugh . If you actually read my posts I had us 2-1 to beat City posted two days before the game Raya was getting stick at the Emirate’s that’s been reported . You keep on quoting gaps in their stats I use 👀. He had a shit first half against City . Care to disagree? He needs to really, really proof himself . As Ramsdale has been dropped he can only prove himself in training. Otherwise the only other thing he can do is sit stony faced knowing a camera is on him. Why… Read more »

rollen

Raptora you joker, just wait for Raya stats with Arsenal for full season. Easy to get good stats for keeper for team playing deep block most games vs Arsenal high line getting cought on counter.
Anyway it’s very good problem to have for Atreta and us. Better guy become no1 and other sub or got sold for solid money.

rollen

Stats lol , how many good saves Raya made so far? 1 ?

Karsa

How many crosses has he claimed?

GD4

“ Something tells me that if Denilson played in this era, he’d be one of the better CDMs in football.”

😂😂😂😂😂

Adams

Raya claims crosses that ramsdale will punch back to danger. I am more confident when we are defending corners with raya between the post. While ramsdale is descent with his feet he makes playing from the back look laboured, raya on the other hand makes it look easy. Ramsdale is the better shootstopper between the two keepers and has a likeable character and that is why some fans want him reclaim his spot back myself included.

Aaron

Raya had good stats all last year with a very good defense in front of him.

Sound familiar???

Spanishdave

Nice to watch the rugby where real men play and don’t cheat and winge all the time

Abass

The rugby is so exciting

Pierre

Ramsdale is an adequate 2nd choice keeper ..

Abass

Even cricket

Matt B

Rap: I’ve said this a few time on here — all around me in the North Bank during the first half of the City game, there was a lot of unrest about Raya’s flapping and the goal he nearly conceded after being closed down. It was like watching Leno under Emery. A few close to me starting hurling abuse at Raya and we all felt he was going to fuck up. I know what Arteta and Pep said about him and second half was better for him. I don’t pay too much attention to football stats because I use my… Read more »

Tenerife Gooner

Fb I got it.

Pierre

Raya 0.5 goals conceded per game in the league this season

Ramsdale 1.0 goals conceded per game this season in the league

Last season , premier league
Ramsdale 1.13 goals conceded per game ..

The stats don’t lie

Mysticleaves

GD4

If we are being honest, not much between Denilson and Jorginho, who almost won a Ballon D’or

Rich

Matt B I don’t see what the issue with steady churn in any position?… If Ramsdale doesn’t win back his place, and understandably decides to leave next summer…. Then as long as we at least get our money back, I couldn’t care any less, it’s a complete non-issue. Ramsdale + Raya makes us stronger than Ramsdale + Turner…. We even turned a small profit on Turner. If we lose money on Ramsdale, or end up loaning him out without an obligation, I could see your point…. Bu we haven’t even committed to buying Raya yet, Ramsdale could still win the… Read more »

Mysticleaves

Marky

I was actually having a laugh. I think the Raya Rams issue is not as serious as some make it. He had a bad 1st half yes. When Rams was undisputed he has had worse 1st halves and full matches. Every stat has shown that THIS SEASON, Raya has been better than Rams and both have played the same number of games. Give Raya a chance will you?

Pierre

Matt B Raya had a clean sheet v city, I was at the southampton game last season when Ramsdale gifted a goal to southampton after 30 seconds which set the tone for the whole game. City are masters of the press and trying to play through them is risky, Raya never lost his nerve despite unrest in rhe crowd, yes he may have got away with it in the first half but 2nd half he was calmness personified, unlike Edison in the city goal who dropped and flapped at a couple of balls and showed fallibility in his kicking which… Read more »

Markymark

Mysticleaves – for you , I will

Nigel Tufnel

“Fact still remains that in 66 games Toney has scored more non penalty goals and all types of goals combined for Brentford than any of our strikers have managed.” mysticleaves above still clueless. Doesn’t imagine the old gambler Toney is a penalty specialist AND has a team built around 1 game plan, defend – then get the ball to Toney. No sharing, nothing. We have half a dozen more talented scorers who play FOR each other.. who press like Eddie and Ødegaard, Martinelli and Trossard, who track back and do what’s best for the team. Jesus is the best example.… Read more »

Rich

We conceded 25 in 27 before losing 2 right sided defenders against Sporting last season, and then conceded 18 in 11. Ramsdale wasn’t responsible for that collapse. All Keepers + defenders make the odd mistake, if we want our players to take responsibility and be brave on the ball, we have to accept a small amount of occupational damages. I’d much rather we try to close out games with control of the ball, rather than bringing on Holding in the closing stages, and defending our own box for dear life. It’s the technical + physical security of our outfield players… Read more »

Olumide

Raya with the worst first half ever in the Emirates.
Goals conceded – 0

Ramsdale with the best year ever by any goal keeper in the premier league.
Number of times Arsenal conceded in the first minute -3

The revisionism about Ramsdale is amazing.

Mysticleaves

Nigel, hit puberty soonest. Maybe you can grow some sense.

GD4

Mystic come on now.
I’m not a fan of either player
but Denilson was absolute tripe.
Just an awful player with very few redeeming qualities on the field … aside from two once in a lifetime goal strikes.
Jorginho is a Registra.
But his time has come and gone.
He can go back to Serie A or La Liga.
The EPL Is not for players with his physical limitations

Mysticleaves

GD4

Agree to disagree.

Nigel Tufnel

Wenger eagle.. You are simply a typical grover. Shit on Arteta, who makes decisions… and still today you are embarrassed that you were so wrong about White and Ramsdale. Everyone knows White is a fabulous versatile player… your weak opinion that he’ll never be a great CB is so easy to say now that he plays behind a world class Saliba… that’s you obfuscating the fact that you said he was a bad buy–The same guy Pedro calls one of the best right backs in Europe. He was a great early decision because he’s perfect for our system, and will… Read more »

Nigel Tufnel

Raptora, When you have no football evidence against our own players, you resort to complaining about them for their prices. There is no problem with what we paid. And Who cares? White is a brilliant player who will be huge for us for years (he’s extending as we speak) .. Ramsdale if he accepts a backup role, will be the best in the world for a 2nd choice keeper. If he doesn’t, we can sell for a PROFIT. I’m proud of the quality deep into this squad. Do you think any big club would bat an eye at the prices… Read more »

GD4

@Mystic.
I concur.

Kpankulu

I have a question. Why is the Arsenal Women’s squad made up entirely of just white women? It’s not very representative of North London. [@Ozy]

Sorry to burst your bubble – but a professional football team is not meant to reflect the area it is located in. Those ladies are from different countries, innit?

WengerEagle

You’re a complete coward Nigel, it took you how many hours to slither on with a response hoping I wouldn’t see it.

Kpankulu

I was actually having a laugh. I think the Raya Rams issue is not as serious as some make it. He had a bad 1st half yes. When Rams was undisputed he has had worse 1st halves and full matches. Every stat has shown that THIS SEASON, Raya has been better than Rams and both have played the same number of games. Give Raya a chance will you? [@Mysticleaves] I am in complete agreement with you. Mikel Arteta will not make an announcement that Raya is GK1. In this particular case, actions speak louder than words. Can Ramsdale mount a… Read more »

Nigel Tufnel

Marky, I love Ramsdale, but Raptoras stats are a very strong case for Raya. I believe that when we’re under siege, Ramsdale is the better pure shot stopper. ……, but our whole goal as a team is to avoid being under siege, and that starts from the back. I also have to say that rewatching the City match, I think the talk of Raya flapping and being jittery was overdone by commentators and fans. One ball he went for but didn’t reach was above his reach, and went nowhere because it was too high. He didn’t flap at any balls… Read more »

WengerEagle

”Aouar, Benteke, MVila, Schneiderlin, Aurier, Capoue, Samba, Raptoras Caicedo (Coquelin) for 90 mil? .. there’s more rubbish names that have amounted to nothing in their careers.Now deny that you weren’t calling for those signings. ” I wasn’t calling for most of those you snaky little weasel. Prove I was calling for them because I’ve seen you reference this I don’t know how many times and it’s 100% bollocks. Aouar was the only one. The rest I was largely arguing against in fact, I lost count of how many times I tried to convince Bamford that Benteke was a dud or… Read more »

Nigel Tufnel

“You’re a complete coward Nigel, it took you how many hours to slither on with a response hoping I wouldn’t see it.”

Wengereagle…

Bizarre from you… I took the time to write a long comment for you the same day… then you claim I didn’t want you to see it? Why?

You’re becoming unhinged I’m afraid. Your past history of bad opinions coming back to haunt you has you rattled?

So instead of responding to the actual points I made, you make it about the promptness of my reply.

That’s a new one, even for legrove.

WengerEagle

”and still today you are embarrassed that you were so wrong about White and Ramsdale.”

What’s funny is that I was actually right on Ramsdale and Arteta has now seen the light. You’re a dumb-dumb so the penny will drop for you years later maybe, wouldn’t hold my breath though.

Nigel Tufnel

Yes I’m sure it was Bamford and Gambon who were the grovers screeching hundreds of times to buy those failed players.

Nobody still posting here was for buying them, of course.
How convenient.

WengerEagle

”Why?”

Because it’s your kind of form. You slither off and reply to people who call out your nonsense later on when they’ve long fucked off normally.

WengerEagle

What was your Moniker back then seeing as how your memory is so sharp? Which of your multiple unhinged personalities were you back then so we can track some of your retarded takes.

Freddie Ljungberg

The Ben White argument keeps getting trotted out as that’s some great point. Most people against his signing were against it because we already had Saliba at the club, and it was obvious to anyone with eyes in their heads (clearly bot Nigel) that he was a generational talent and already better than any defender we had at the club at the time. We could have recalled him and spent that 50m on that wasteland of a midfield we had instead. Luckily White has been very good as a RB but let’s not pretend that’s what he was bought for.… Read more »

Nigel Tufnel

How were you right on Ramsdale?
The facts say otherwise.
Everyone knows now that he is a very good keeper, and we would sell him for a profit if he’s unhappy as a backup.
So calling him a relegator and too expensive is right?
I like how you claim victory for more mistakes in judgement lol.

Nigel Tufnel

Ben White has made the majority of you look bad, and Arteta and Edu did a great job. Fact.
Try to weasel out of it all you want. Everyone knows he’s been great at all he’s done since joining. That’s why he was called up for a England at both positions.
He would be the best CB in the England squad even now, especially if they didn’t have the clod Pickford and played out from the back, as they should.

WengerEagle

I didn’t call him Ramsdale the relegator, another lie. That’s the level of humour I would expect from someone like you who raged like an obsessed nut over a 22 year old kid in Balogun wanting out and regular football for which in return we received a handsome fee. I had reservations and was against spending 30m on an average GK, especially after selling a superior one in Martinez for 20m, not that difficult to understand. He started pretty decently, his form post-Christmas fell off a cliff and last season he was ok but nothing special. He cost us in… Read more »

WengerEagle

Tell us about all of the times you were wrong and humbly acknowledged them on here as you claimed the other day then, go on amuse us.

Freddie Ljungberg

Nigel

The point is we already had Saliba and the 50m could have been used much better.

It doesn’t matter that he’s been good for us, he wasn’t a signing that we needed to do at the time and we had much bigger needs, that’s why people were against signing him.

Talking about shit takes you never believed in Saliba and were always on here disparaging him until he came back and it became obvious to even you that there was no way Arteta could drop him because he was too good.

Freddie Ljungberg

If we’re going for a big lump, 28 year old striker in January I’d rather we take a punt on this guy than Toney tbh, would probably cost a whole lot less too. Serhou Guirassy, 13 goals in 7 games in the bundesliga so far this season. Some real quality goals in there too.

https://youtu.be/7wYjCxssIa4?si=VMZ5FhP6eiJpgD46

Mysticleaves

I thought Ben White was an average CB (still think he is). I was seething when he was bought for 50m and we *almost* lost Saliba cos of it. Everyone that thought same has been proven right and is enjoying White at RB (where he’s much better for us) Yet Nigel keeps saying people were wrong on White lol😅😅

allezkev

Most of the rumours regarding Saliba leaving Arsenal, when he was at Marseilles, came from highly unreliable sources, nobody from Arsenal themselves ever suggested that his future was anywhere other than at Arsenal from what I can recall.

But I guess if you have an anti-Arteta agenda you can spin anything anyway you like to suit your narrative…

Nigel Tufnel

Freddie and the rest of you, WengerEagle, Raptora, whomever, are so dishonest and want to fall back on “I was only against the price” for White and Ramsdale. It’s ridiculous. If you rate a player, you pay the price. There was nothing surprising or outlandish about their fees. Man City, United, Chelsea, pay significantly more for backup defenders than we paid for the excellent Ben White. You just got it wrong. Now live in denial as Arteta’s players succeed. Do you think I care that we spent 30m on who is now a backup keeper? Not at all. I will… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

It’s not about the price you donut.

It’s about us already having Saliba, who was already better, and needing to strengthen elsewhere since most of our squad was trash back then. RCB was the position we least needed to buy a player in.

No one is unhappy that we have White now but he wasn’t needed when we bought him and we could have addressed RB the season after.

Stop parading your shit takes as victories ffs.

Gonsterous

Guys, a real question here. Where do you all view partey in your all time arsenal greats. If we have players like ode and saka getting a shout out, why not partey? Guy is under rated. Elevates our mid by just his presence.

China1

‘If you rate a player you pay the price’ Not necessarily I have a 150m budget for this summer and 3 positions in need of improvement I may rate several players including one who would cost 100m. But if I buy said player it means I’ve only got 50m left for the remaining 2 positions. Perhaps that’s not enough to buy any of the remaining players I like, let alone 2. Meaning I finished the window with 1 player I rated highly but continue with two key holes in the squad Alternatively you could skip the 100m player and end… Read more »

bacaryisgod

I’m going to one up the best XI posters. Here’s a squad covering every letter of the alphabet (surnames only). The goal is not that it’s the best player for each letter but to create the most balanced squad possible. GK: Pat Jennings, Jens Lehmann, Emiliano Martinez RB: Lee Dixon, Pat Rice LB: Oleksandr Zinchenko, Sammy Nelson RCB: Tony Adams, Willie Young LCB: Kolo Toure, Matthew Upson CM1: Patrick Vieira, Edu, Granit Xhaka CM2: Cesc Fabregas, Santi Cazorla RM: Bukayo Saka, Alex Iwobi LM: Robert Pires, Marc Overmars AM/F: Dennis Bergkamp, Charlie George, Nwakano Kanu CF: Thierry Henry, Ian Wright,… Read more »

Zacharse

damn, internationals

Emiratesstroller

This would be my personal starting X1 covering the George Graham to Mikel Arteta’s eras plus Liam Brady who would have been an outstanding player in modern era. SEAMAN WINTERBURN CAMPBELL ADAMS DIXON VIEIRA FABREGAS PIRES SAKA BERGKAMP HENRY My Bench would be LEHMANN SALIBA COLE GILBERTO RICE BRADY [from previous era] CAZORLA MARTINELLI WRIGHT I have included four of the defence who transcended George Graham and Arsene Wenger’s era not because they were the most talented but because they were the outstanding defence collectively winning FOUR league titles.. I have added in Campbell rather than Saliba because of his… Read more »

Markymark

Don’t mention the. Aouar ! The man of mystery surely a mere figment of our imagination. Did he actually exist?

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Markymark

Gonsterous – IMO , Partey too often injured and not around when we needed him.
If I’m being honest to myself there’s a whiff of something not good either which would have impact on any great desire to see him amongst the Greats. I know innocent until proven guilty etc. I wouldn’t miss him particularly if sold

One

Raptora Nigel: “they didn’t want Ben White who has turned out to be magnificent, or Ramsdale, who transformed how we play”The so-called gods of yours – Arteta and Edu, brought direct competition for both of them this summer. Raya has already benched Ramsdale and Timber was going to be one of our 3 or 4 most important players in the team – he’s that good.The two of them cost less than Rams and White. Transfers that we could have made 2 years ago for even less money. We overpaid for both Rams and White and we got them when our… Read more »

One

MysticleavesOctober 15, 2023 08:59:13 Nigel I had to go back to read your post again and I missed this quote below the first time.“I understand and have sympathy that ignorant people don’t get it.., but it’s not just another opinion when it’s from the manager and Edu… because those decisions are informed. First because they have all the information, training, scouts, coaches and more football knowledge in their tiniest toe than you and I put together. We know nothing in comparison. ”I think it’s clearly dimwitted and zombie-like (sycophantic init?) to feel that just because someone is PRIVILEGED to be… Read more »

Markymark

These huge edit slices of previous postings make painful reading .
Maybe just state the time and the OP . Then you can convey your contempt or love ❤️ more succinctly

Markymark

The real bastards on here were the Aouar fanboys. Nothing but contempt for their love of this ballet dancer 😂 Only kidding!

China1

Pro football managers know and are more talented in this area than 99.9% of us (in most cases by far). They also have access to all the first hand information that we don’t as fans and that informs their thinking on a far closer level than ours ever will be That’s beyond dispute What’s also true tho is that managers even at the top level almost all routinely make errors which many or most fans can identify and rightly call out Could anyone on here manage arsenal during the stadium transition even 1% as well as Wenger? HELL no But… Read more »

Markymark

China1 – it’s likely that there was power thing going on with Wenger. Ferguson though derided as old whiskey nose was far more adaptable with bringing in coaches who’d actually have ideas. Queiroz Being a prime example. In my game we’d actually say Ferguson had the stronger ego as he could reduce his ego to adapt around others. Wenger could not reduce his, rather he wished to live permanently in the beneficial father figure role his ideals being pure and unsullied. Examples in the real world of strong against weaker ego were her goodself ER|| Queenie ( strong ego could… Read more »

Wicked Willy

Kiwior vs Moldova (played as a LCB)

• 90 mins played
• 105 touches
• 66 passes (most)
• 14 passes into final third
• 10 duels won
• 9 recoveries
• 3 shots
• 3 clearance
• 1 chance created
• 1 interception
• 1 long ball
• 1 accurate cross

Terraloon

Nigel “I also have to say that rewatching the City match, I think the talk of Raya flapping and being jittery was overdone by commentators and fans. One ball he went for but didn’t reach was above his reach, and went nowhere because it was too high. He didn’t flap at any balls that he should have grabbed” Time after time you dismiss anyone that has a different view to yours the irony is that some of your ramblings are getting stranger so it’s no surprise that so many are coming back at you. So when I read the quote… Read more »