BORING, BORING, ARSENAL

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Sometimes, the narrative isn’t about you… it’s about your noisy neighbors.

Arsenal beat AFC Bournemouth. It was so professional and cutting. I’d call it pleasant/boring. You know the afternoons I’m talking about. Invincibles era vs Derby. A surefire three points. Second gear into town to pick up a paper on a Sunday.

… you know who wanted a day like that? Manchester City. They lost 2-1 to Wolves. Their xG was less than 1. Wolves scored two off of 0.5 xG. It was DELICIOUS.

… you know who else wanted a day like ours? Erik Ten Having-a-mare. A manager who definitely took the ketchup out of the player canteen has slumped from crisis to crisis since finishing the season in the top 4 through sheer luck. Now his brand of football is on the struggle bus. His tenure there has entered a death spiral. Players are leaking, journalists are ganging up, his tenure looks dead… and losing his 4th game of the season to Palace really did not help this vibe.

Arsenal didn’t care for drama – they just did the job.

Eddie won a penalty – Odegaard finished with a sputtery Jorginho-style run.

Saka scored the second when he was first to the Jesus header that hit the post.

Odegaard won the next penalty in the second half, but instead of taking it himself, he gave it to Kai Havertz who scored his first goal in something silly like 17 Premier League games.

The fourth came so late in the game I’d already switched over to the City game to see what was going down. Martin Odegaard flew a lovely freekick into the Bournemouth box, the only player who challenged was Ben White who saw his looping header slip into the top corner.

4-0.

Easy.

There were some really nice bits.

I loved that the team rallied around Kai Havertz. You saw firsthand how the players feel about him. They know he’s a top pro, they rate him, and they can see he’s in a confidence rut. If you’ve slandered him recently, I hope you felt a pang of guilt. These guys on the pitch are human like you and me… sometimes you just need a bit of support. I loved how good the away fans were to him. All love out there.

David Raya got the nod despite Ramsdale having a sound game in the week. The Spaniard was excellent. His passing went from 66% against Spurs to 87%. Joe Willock doesn’t hit those numbers. He made one really excellent save down low where he held the ball. It just felt like the sort of strike Aaron might have palmed into danger. It was a basic game, but he did well. We need to see him on a run before we can truly judge… perhaps City will tell us more.

Declan Rice had another really good performance. I told you last week Arteta was making pointed comments to the player about flaking out after his back injury that wasn’t a back injury. Arteta expects his players to be beasts. Declan wasn’t last week when he flounced out of the Spurs game. This week, he dominated on every level. He’s just a brilliant player. He controlled the midfield, he was aggressive, he was ballerina-like, he opened the game up, and he didn’t let anything get past him. It was a MONSTER performance.

… now imagine Partey next to him for City?

The star of the day was our defense. We look so solid with our key men fit. Saliba and Gabriel are frightening. They looked scary. They play scary. They are forming such a monster partnership. The big test is Haaland next week – but for me, these two are a Hollywood pairing.

There was only one sour note to speak of – Bukayo Saka hobbling off with an injury

>>>>>>>>>>> COULD IT BE A CONSPIRACY BETWEEN ARTETA AND BUKAYOR TO THROW SENOR PEP INTO BELIEVING THE STARBOY IS OUT NEXT WEEK?

Maybe.

But most likely not.

Arteta should have prioritized resting Saka. He took Eddie off. A player who won’t play much over the next few weeks. Saka’s injury, if it’s serious, is on Mikel. You could say hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I think most Arsenal fans have been calling this injury for weeks. Our best player doesn’t have a legit back-up. That is so problematic for our season.

But let’s lean on hope. Saka is good at taking himself off. We’ve seen this move before. It’s not a bad injury until the .com tells us so.

Still, let’s be positive. We have City next week after they lost to Newcastle and Wolves. Martinelli and Partey COULD be back for that game. Finally, we have a fit squad to choose from against our biggest enemy. We’re also 1 point off City. It is wild to think that just a few weeks ago I was defending Arteta’s right to rotate players – now we could go top if we beat City. Remember the catastrophists who get it wrong over and over again about Arsenal.

Right, that’s me done. I’m writing this after a 19-hour day – it’s not my best work, so I’ll be back with something better a bit later.

Check out the pod below.

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Karsa

The clubs are worried about the eventual backlash from refs.

They may play it safe for a while, but it’s easy to disadvantage clubs without making howlers. Look at the licence clubs get to kick lumps out of our lads.

Unbelievable that Kai was the only player booked on Saturday.

china1

next nev will call it a coincidence that utd have something like 12 consecutive home draws in domestic cups. the odds were calculated at over 4000:1.

whatever it takes to help them win the league cup last year tho, innit

china1

karsa that backlash can’t happen if they band together.

by letting pool go it alone we will all lose when nothing is done about it

Dissenter

Liverpool are the change makers, they faced down corrupt police chiefs and politicians until they got an apology for Hillsborough
Then they faced down UEFA after the CL final debacle and shamed the French police that were smearing innocent fans

They are the club that’s best equipped to to stare down PGMOL.
Klopp didn’t go off during and after the ball, that set the right tone to politely call them out.

Karsa

China

I hear what you are saying, but they won’t be scrapping the present system before the end of the season (if we’re lucky).

It could be too late for some clubs by then.

salparadisenyc

Klopp has handled this situation as good as a manager can.

GD4

The Brits showing the Stiff Upper lip for all the wrong reasons.
The World Cup VAR system has shown it can be done without all these problems. Just adopt their damn methods and end this endless debate.

FA being stubborn and defiant for the sake of being defiant.

Karsa

Best case scenario – the audio is provided and it reveals obvious cheating.

That would precipitate change right off.

Dissenter

Howard Webb has been a disappointment tbh. He’s just saying all the right things but doing not enough. After Lee Mason focked us up in the spring, he should never have been brought back and PGMOL should have put in place simple measures to make that offside line error NEVER happen again. It could have been as simple as checklists of things of steps to rule in or rule out before making a call Everybody uses checklist; pilots use them during mid air emergencies and routinely before/after flights. It could have just been a sticky note on every desktop in… Read more »

china1

karsa they don’t have to, only enforce standards

Dissenter

GD4
This has nothing to with the FA
It’s the premier league, premier league clubs [who voted against the semi-automated system] and the PGMOL.

AFC Forever

Bob For years I have been on the PGMOL case. I’ve called them not fit for purpose, incompetent, too Northern biased, said they shouldn’t be appointing Manchester officials to Manchester games. I said the unconscious bias is not being mitigated against. I’ve even said that some decisions are too suspicious for words. I’ve been right on many occasions, wrong on others but have successfully predicted things that would happen and they have. For example, I predicted that having Lee Mason from Manchester on Arsenal games was a problem. What happened? PGMOL had to apologise TWICE in 12 months for his… Read more »

Graham62

VAR is simple to operate.
The problem lies with those managing it!
A group of ten year olds could do a better job.
Even when I listen to the studio officials explanations on TV, they drive me up the bloody wall!

Markymark

Dissenter – agree I think Klopp did a masterful performance. Think if we moan it’s like it’s the Duke of Westminster complaining about his tenants being oiks. It’s taken that Arsenal must somehow endure and never complain due to some sort of granted status that we are the Posh club. So let’s have someone else kick it all off. Liverpool are perfect for this and particularly when players wife’s are complaining of corruption. We all think it but no one in the press dare say it. But a Mediterranean WAG who used to a society where cash can grease palms… Read more »

Graham62

Spuds fans gloating they beat nine man Liverpool, with the aid of VAR cock up!

salparadisenyc

Completely Spurs level to take a victory lap on heals of that result.

I will say all these LiVARpool supporters who are saying its ALWAYS us need to find some perspective as well, they received most points last season from VAR based decisions. Live by the sword die by the sword, still think this one should be replayed.

Absolutely blatant.

Madhu

If VAR is used to fly Aircraft the industry would be shut by now. They would have accidents everyday. It’s ridiculous to even think that in this day and age we can’t get decisions right watching multiple reply from all angles with freeze frames. Much harder and life saving jobs are done everyday in other industries. It’s corruption nothing else.

You cannot mention Spurs and class in the same sentence…

MidwestGun

The NFL had some of the same issues with VAR the first couple years of it’s implementation.. But they realized quickly it was ruining their brand. One thing the NFL is great at is branding and promotion. So they did a complete overhaul of the system and established a competition committee of active managers and referees to review the following season and make changes, ongoing. In addition they have referees in studio explaining the calls for every network coverage. Now it is pretty much spot on every time. Rarely much controversy. There will always be some due to camera angles,… Read more »

Pierre

Untold Arsenal had it right all along …they always provided evidence and were spot on with their analysis.

Sadly the WOBS and le groaners poured scorn at untold findings، their obsession with wenger would never allow then to be honest and accept that the pgmol were biased against Arsenal when Mike Riley was in charge….

The decisions regarding Arsenal have levelled out slightly since Riley left.

Dissenter

Madhu The reason why the ATC is used as an analogy is because it’s the best system for learning from previous mistakes. One air traffic accident is investigated properly by independent agencies and the results are used to prevent further accident. The plane manufacturer may have to make structural changes and even laws may need to be changed. That’s why air travel is safer than any other form of transportation. Had the PGMOL learned properly from the Lee Mason incident and instituted changes based on the findings, the Liverpool vs Spurs incident would never have happened. Just citing “corruption” without… Read more »

AFC Forever

Graham62

“VAR is simple to operate. The problem lies with those managing it! A group of ten year olds could do a better job.”

Exactly. So why do they make so many ‘impossible to get wrong’ ‘mistakes?

It’s got fuck all to do with the process, it is the PGMOL officials that are the problem. I would have a mass clear out, rebalance the geographical problem, broadcast the audio and have a two strikes you are out policy. That is the only way you bring back the integrity these northern mafia clowns are doing their best to destroy.

Dissenter

*All they have to do is to bring up all the referees who are assaulted in the lower leagues and say calling them corrupt will increase violence against officials.

Dissenter

There are foreign owners
Foreign sponsorship for a global audience
Foreign managers
Foreign sporting directors
Foreign players
A big chunk of the fan base driving up the crazy revenues are foreign

…so why does the refereeing have to be British?

They need to break it all up and invite the best referees to join on one year contracts

If it’s okay for English refs to do midweek games in the UAE, surely there’s nothing holding back elite officials from other countries from doing premier league games.

Northbanker

Agree with the mass clear out at PGMOL and Webb in particular should be sacked or fall on his sword

BUT if Spurs requested or were forced into a replay, much as I’d love them to lose the points, then it sets a very dangerous precedent for every dodgy VAR wrong call. Let’s face it there are enough of them and at least one game would be replayed every week

Too many matches already without complicating the fixture list even more. Organising a professional game is a huge logistic exercise

Not possible and not desirable

Markymark

Pierre – Untold were on their spaceship with some dodgy Belgium fella who did a continual PR campaign for a failing Wenger. A fair few of the posters were virtual cult members. Certainly no WOB was allowed anywhere near Untold. I should know as they repeatedly refused to post my input but allowed the input of a pedophilish material poster who was rightly kicked off the Gooner. If according to their mantra they were always right why was Wenger sacked? Is Josh Kroenke part of the conspiracy too? Who else is part of this group that felled Wenger? The illuminati?… Read more »

salparadisenyc

Pierre there is a world that exists within the Arsenal fan where.

– Wenger was /is loved but it was clearly time to shift.

– PGMOL are corrupt as fuck regardless of any cult posting over UT, we’ve the receipts and this isn’t just an English thing see BARCA.

– Arsenal Untold is drivel.

salparadisenyc

Here Here Markymark.

kofi

I guess it is a little bit more diverse. offside as well as goal line technology is pretty straight forward (except for who olays the ball on purpose in case of offside) however foul is different in basically every aspect. slowing something down 100 times does not tell the true story. also for everyone who ever played football this is clear – when you see someone sliding in and you know you get to the ball first your instinct is to jump to prevent injury – that may look silly or even like a dive in slow motion. that is… Read more »

Bob N16

Excellent point Dissenter about the officials working in UAE to help justify foreign referees over here.

Agree Northbanker, it’s a can of worms replaying games, legal implications, fixture complications and inconsistencies. What if we’d lost the PL by a point due to the Brentford decision which the PGMOL acknowledged? Why should a precedent be set for this game and not ours?

With the FA cup, when we replayed it was a genuine misunderstanding, Kanu(?) had just arrived and didn’t understand the unwritten protocol of returning the ball (?). Easier in a cup game where only two teams involved.

MidwestGun

Spurs won’t voluntarily replay that game .. no way .. they would get crushed.. they know it and so does everyone else. What they should do is .. say ok allow the goal… and call it a draw.

They won’t do that either, though. Sportsmanship went out the window with the big money involved in every single point gained.
And yep it would mean every bad decision ever would be teams demanding a replay so I can’t see the PGMOL doing it either.

Dissenter

Sorry but if it were Arsenal that won that game in that manner I wouldn’t want us to replay it.

The season Liverpool won the league they had lots of dubious wins too, that was before VAR

Stuff happens, the goal. is to prevent the recurrence of such nonsense not to dig up dead bodies.

Markymark

I think it’s done. You can’t replay Premier matches as there’d be no end to appeals. The redemption will be gained from reform. It’s the reform and not just ignoring it will be the win in this. As I’ve mentioned before due to our Royal family like status in football this is best driven by Liverpool who touch the soul of football type vibe

Bob N16

Liverpool lost because they had two reds. They have a much, much better squad than Spurs who in the last two weeks have needed all the luck going..

Markymark

Spurs of course could point to that ridiculous decision ruled as cleared when it was a good yard over at that bastion of fair decisions at Old Trafford.
Most clubs have a list of bad decisions against them . Unless you are Man UTD of course

AFC Forever

Dissenter “If it’s okay for English refs to do midweek games in the UAE, surely there’s nothing holding back elite officials from other countries from doing premier league games.” You are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think the PL would allow overseas referees. PGMOL has been a Northern dominated cabal for donkeys years, they don’t even have Southern referees. The reason for this was explained as something to do with wanting to keep the British game less technical and allowing more physicality, the claim being that Northern referees did that better (not my words). Yes they should allow… Read more »

Bob N16

MarkyMark, not sure ‘Royal family type status’ is outdated. American owners and no Old Etonians chairing the board which was case for decades. ‘Bank of England’ was a 30s term which was mentioned still in the 70s.

Bob N16

AFCF, if these controversies continue there may be concessions which conclude top foreign refs.

Bkon

BREAKING:

Jurriën Timber is recovering well and is expected to be back between February and March. 🇳🇱

Dissenter

AFC
So I’m living in cuckooland but then you just waltzed down down cuckoo road to the cuckoo mansion in cuckooland, wading in deep speculations
There used to be a time when there was some hostility against foreign ownership but now no one bats an eyelid the next time and American group buys yet another club.

For all your cabal talk about northern refereeing hegemony, this latest one is an injustice done against a northern club to the benefit of a London club. When Harry Kane almost took off Robertson’s leg, it was same benefit to a London club.

Spanishdave

We replayed v Sheffield United because of the throw in not being done ina sporting matter.
The game needs to be replayed and this will also remind the ref secret society to properly reform.
The clubs need to threaten a boycott unless it’s sorted

Bob N16

Spanishdave, there have been endless mistakes. Why replay this particular game?

MidwestGun

Human error excuse doesn’t wash.. so don’t know why they keep saying that.. The Var ref should have realized within minutes that the goal was disallowed on the field when you know.. ….the teams didn’t kick off from the center circle, for example.

And then stopped the game.. that’s why they have the headsets. So the process is broken not just human error.

GD4

Dissenter why dya enjoy being difficult?
It’s called LEADERSHIP!!

If the FA says we want to adopt a system that’s worked well at the World Cup and in the champions league who’s gonna object??
Especially with the nonsense we are seeing currently…

AFC Forever

Midwest

Exactly right. This mistake nonsense does not wash anymore. There was plenty of time to put that right because Spurs had a free kick .They chose not too

I’m fucking sick of it all, this has been going on for far too long now to be swept to one side.

Dissenter

GD4
The English FA doesn’t organize the premier league

Spanishdave

Bob it’s about time something gets changed otherwise it just goes on.
The FA will not put their house in order

Markymark

Bob – I still doff my cap as I pass the entrance outside the East Stand . I feel that this mark of respect along with standing for the National anthem is needed to maintain standards

MidwestGun

Anyhow,… tuning in for the Poch sack watch… Go Fulham!

Dissenter

Mid
“And then stopped the game.. that’s why they have the headsets. So the process is broken not just human error.”

Exactly,
we’ve seen then use VAR even after the game had ended
We see them bring back calls after 30-45 secs for VAR, like our goal at OT

These guys don’t have any professional pride in their work, it’s just buddies going through the motions.

AFC Forever

Dissenter

Yes you are in cloud cuckoo land. PGMOL is part of a protectorate. Of course we should have foreign refs, if they are the best, but they will resist it.

As for the Northern cabal, I have no idea why you don’t understand unless it’s because you’re American. Manchester & Liverpool have huge rivalry, it’s not just football based. Manchester referees should not do Liverpool OR Manchester teams. That is why I have successfully predicted strange events, it’s not because I have a glass ball & magical powers.

MidwestGun

Diss well to be fair.. indifference and corruption would look similar.
So as I said needs to be an overhaul no matter the cause.

AFC Forever

“ it’s just buddies going through the motions.”

Now you are getting somewhere. Protectorate. Mike Dean recently admitted he didn’t correct a mistake by Antony Taylor, who missed a Spurs player pulling Cucurellas hair, because he didn’t want to embarrass his mate. That comment says so much about PGMOL, very revealing.

AFC Forever

Midwest

“ Diss well to be fair.. indifference and corruption would look similar. So as I said needs to be an overhaul no matter the cause.”

This. 100% on the money Midwest.

Dissenter

AFC
Oh, so it’s a Manchester thing now, not a Northern set-up.
I just see you stuck on a kayak on the cuckoo river, problem is you’ve no paddle so you’ll end up wherever it takes you.

We are talking about incompetent people hiding under a union, rather than proffer attainable reasonable solutions you keep harping about the “north.

So what’s to be done to break up this “northern control?

Geographical quotas?

Markymark

Dissenter you may not be picking up on the sheer bitterness of rivalry between the north and the south . This isn’t a few jokey comments about somebody from Oklahoma, This is about people who may be prepared to stitch someone or a group up because they come from a different part of the country. There are plenty of people in the UK willing to believe a bitter individual very wedded to a northern club institution could carry out a prejudicial action. It works the other way around as well. Thatcher so hated Liverpool that she was actually looking to… Read more »

MidwestGun

Wow.. Brojha dude.. how you miss an empty net? haha

AFC Forever

Dissebter

You have never understood. Whenever I have pointed out the problem you defended PGMOL. Even when I predicted what would happen. I even cited former referees who complained about home town appointments but you chose to be disagreeable. Even when you don’t know your subject you behave as some faux sage.

At last you’ve seen the light that PGMOL is a protectorate and not fit fur purpose. .That’s a step in the right direction.

Next thing you need to do is stop being so self-righteous & objections.

Markymark

Dissenter geographical quotas have been talked about. Cricket shows a way forward where they removed local umpires from test matches. Generally at the time it was felt that Pakistani umpires could be vulnerable to match fixing. The travelling umpire has worked very well in test cricket

AFC Forever

*objectionable

PS: Wouldn’t want to be doing VAR in this Chelsea v Fulham game. Huge pressure.

Un

Mark bob and zach are a right trio of wet lettuces
No wonder men like Tate are followed by young online when this is what they have to look up to in their own lives
Chinless wonders

Markymark

Un – you need to introduce the female members of your family to Andrew Tate. I mean you can really really trust him can’t you. Maybe get Russell Brand to pop long as well.

Markymark

Blimey Mudryk gets a goal

Markymark

Un – join Andrew’s hustlers university , you can make some money if you get Rich to join as well. Get your son to view it all. Sounds like it’s the sort of stuff you want your children raised on. That’s fine it’s all free choice until he gets banged up at some point

MidwestGun

Yep Mudryk and Broja.. Fulham playing a suicidal high line for what purpose not sure. Chelsea haven’t scored in forever and you basically beg them to run in behind.

Markymark

A fair few of the favourite managers to replace Arteta are being found out this week

Karsa

Refs stitching Liverpool up to favour Manchester is definitely a thing.

Anybody in the UK would get this.

Nigel Tufnel

“Similar thing happened two years previously, helping City win the league by one point in 21/22.” AFCforever, Was that the Man City blatant handball near the end of the season? That did cost Liverpool the title as I remember. Nobody could believe how that was allowed to stand… and I remember the title and an (almost) relegation was at stake. That seemed very fishy in favour of Man City. Envelopes of money probably behind that. Expensive gifts for family members of officials. I would never, ever forget that if I was Klopp or scouser. As it is… I don’t like… Read more »

jwl

From The Athletic, hopefully their plane has taken off by now and the lads will get goodnight sleep. ——– William Saliba is confident Arsenal can get a positive result in their Champions League encounter against Lens despite a delay in their flight to France. Arsenal’s press conference ahead of the game had to be cancelled after bad weather delayed Mikel Arteta and his side flying out. Arteta’s squad trained at 11am BST before having lunch at London Colney. Arsenal’s manager and defender Saliba had been due to speak with media at 6pm BST. The players arrived at a private terminal… Read more »

AFC Forever

Nigel Different game actually. The Spurs v Liverpool game in the 21/22 season. Two first half incidents. 1. Kane took out Robertson shin high but referee Tierney ( Manchester) gave a yellow card and Chris Kavanagh (Manchester) doing VAR ignored it although a blatant red card . Pundits speculated it was because Kane was England captain, ignoring the elephant in the room. 2. Jota was fouled by Royale for a blatant penalty, which was ignored by Tierney & Kavanagh. The match was drawn. Man City won the league that season by just one point but had Liverpool won that game… Read more »

Bob N16

Un the champion of the deconstructed…

I’ve slipped into dialogue with you- I remember now why that wasn’t sensible on my part.

I’ll happily be called a ‘wet lettuce’ or ‘chinless wonder’ if that equates to treating women with respect.

Dissenter

So there’s anti-Liverpool discrimination now

Blimey, why do neutral fans refer to Liverpool as LiVARpool?
They get more VAR gifts than anyone else, as many as United.

AFC Forever

Jwl

We have to get used to playing every three days now. Looked leggy against Spurs in the second half but good to see we’re getting players back. Need the squad.

We haven’t conceded an away goal this season, be a test at Lens. I’ve got my eyes on that game Sunday though, beating City would be a big statement.

Dissenter

I remember the CL Final against Spuds and the referee giving Liverpool a dubious penalty for the ball hitting Sissoko’s armpit from a shot that was one yard away.
He destroyed the spectacle of a final game with a dubious call in the first few minutes. We all were delighted because better L;liverpool win that game than Spuds …but

Goobergooner

Steve nicol saying that giving the pen to havertz was “unprofessional”.

What the actual fuck is wrong with people. There certainly is an anti arsenal bias.
That is seriously one of the most halfwitted takes I have heard in football. And there is some absole melons in and around the sport.

Markymark

Dissenter without trying to knock . I think you are on shaky knowledge of parochial UK issues. There may well be absolutely no underlying corruption or prejudice but if there was a Manchester official could equally hate Liverpool and Arsenal. It’s really not difficult for UK based football supporters to see that.
I certainly would be unhappy as say a Sunderland supporter to be playing a must win match with Newcastle based officials. There’s far more ties to local rivalry based around football clubs in the UK. Football is simply representative of very long standing rivalries

Goobergooner

I could not have been more proud of the boys after the way they first gave the pen to kai, then the way they celebrated. This group is just like a bunch of best mates and they give everything for each other. It’s absolutely brilliant to see and tets has done an incredible job building that team culture. Cannot fault him at all on that.

Just needs improvement on in game management and we are laughing.

Akkimaniac

Hello w i s Tierney doing over at Sociedad?

Goobergooner

Absolute****

Akkimaniac

Oops

TIERNEY FACING LENGTHY LAY-OFF WITH HAMSTRING INJURY

AFC Forever

Dissenter

Have you ever found yourself involved in a heated argument when you are stuck alone in an elevator? 😀

Nigel Tufnel

AFCforever I was remembering an unexplainable, not given, handball call against Man City playing Everton close to the end of a season where they pipped Liverpool by 1 point. Just another example in their favour. It was controversial for a few days, then faded away as Man City won the league, as usual.

Markymark

Goobergooner – Steve Nichol still suffers PTSD type nightmares beginning in 1987 , then 1989 then 1991 then followed the realisation that his teams glory days were collapsing, I can’t think why he’d hate us 😂

Josip Skoblar

Does anyone know why so many PL refs come from the Manchester area? We should have at least as many refs from the London area. Why are the Midlands and north-east under-represented as well?

Un

Mark No but can’t there be nuance or a happy medium? Men like Tate are a reaction to something. That something is the over feminisation and demonisation of young men Hitting them over the head with toxic notions Like all women should be believed Or rape culture being a legitimate thing Or the pay gap being real Or toxic masculinity Or male privilege Or man splaining Or man spreading Or shoe horning women into any top job or board room or tv studio when they are shit to watch. Garbling oh like robotic drag queens. Make up troweled all over… Read more »

AFC Forever

Josip To get promoted to the PL Select Group of referees you have to finish top of the merit tables. According to Keith Hackett (former head of PGMOL) all those with the highest marks are from Northern FA regions. He claimed that was because PGMOL & Neal Barry concentrated training to the Northern counties only. He added that the training taught referees to allow a more ‘robust’ (his words) game. So that’s apparently the reason. He added that it was causing PGMOL huge problems because they couldn’t avoid allocating referees to certain matches, like local teams etc. .Not because referees… Read more »

Un

I can see ESR and beskon getting starts tomo night

Un

Nelson

Un

And vieira

Dissenter

AFC
Nope, Never happened to me
Don’t get offended because someone challenged your northern referee conspiracy

Markymark

Dissenter it’s pretty clear from AFC’s notes regarding Keith Hackett that there is an issue

Dissenter

I’m just messing around tbh
I respect AFC’s opinion about the Manchester area refereeing hegemony

Zacharse

un
seek help

Zacharse

no joke man, thats unhinged.

englandsbest

AFC Forever

Given the number of games played, a replay of Spurs/Tottenham would be unfair on both teams. The classy thing for Spurs to do is declare the game a draw. Even Spurs fans would go for that.

AFC Forever

If anyone’s interested there’s a documentary on TNT tomorrow at 5:15 pm UK time called Rocky & Wrighty. It’s the story of David Rocastles rise to stardom & how it inspired Ian Wright. Must watch.

AFC Forever

EB

A replay isn’t going to happen, I know that. Can of worms. . Plus Liverpool are a better team than Spurs so it’s better Liverpool drop points. I hate injustice as much as I have always hated PGMOL. Never trusted them & I keep being proved right!

vieira

Partey and Saka in the squad for tomorrow !! this is fantastic news for tomorrow and more importantly for Sunday.

salparadisenyc

Un

For most part I avoid anything non footie on here think maybe you should as well.
Regrettable post up there.

Josip Skoblar

AFC
Thanks! Enlightening. 👍