AFC BOURNEMOUTH PREVIEW

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I’m a bit late to the party on the Brentford game, but I have some hot takes.

1. That was a GOOD win.

Brentford doesn’t get beaten at their place often… we delivered a very clean win against a team packed with first-teamers. I thought we’d lose that game because of the amount of changes made. I was wrong. We’re finally getting to a stage where we’re a ‘next man up’ kind of club. Gone are the day where the player doing the domestic cups would mail it in. I loved the make-up of the squad, it was youth, a bit of experience, a random debut, and a spirited performance. For all the embarrassing histrionics we’ve seen this season, we’re now at 6 wins and 2 draws. Pretty decent, wouldn’t you say?

2. Aaron Ramsdale

He’s here for the fight. The performance was vintage Aaron. A few shaky moments, but mostly all good. He made a brilliant save that contributed to the win, his kicking was really bold (even though his completion rate was a smidge over 50%), he also commanded his box really well. Will he start against Bournemouth? Doubt it. I think he’s the domestic cups guy now.

3. Kai Slander

People are now fully in the mode of critiquing performances that don’t merit it. He played well. His game is simple at the moment. I thought he did well in possession, he connected play really well, and he gave the side solidity from a defensive perspective. There was no goal or assist – but those are coming. The biggest concern about him in Xhaka’s position was defensive diligence – he has that, and now people are worried he might not be able to attack. He’ll come good there, we’re gonna get Leverkusen Kai. We have to remember, he’s learning a new position, he’s under extreme pressure, and things aren’t falling his way. When they do – just remember the slanderers.

4. ESR

I thought he looked good. There were no real concerns over fitness. Some folk on the internet reckon his issues with Arteta come from a lack of pressing. The player himself said he sometimes doesn’t take instruction well. It’s simple for him – get it together and make a case to stay. Or mail it in and leave in January. I hope he stays, he’s a lovely player to watch, and he deserves to be playing at our level.

5. Kiwior

I might be imagining it, but the bulk we wanted Vieira to put on seems to have gone to the Polish defender. He is a BIG boy, has he been stealing from Fabio’s plate? I loved his game. He’s a menace. Very strong in the tackle. Good passing range. He’s also very aggressive. He’ll be knocking on the door soon I’d imagine. Remember, we picked him up because the club worried he’d become a £50m defender if we left him in Italy for another season.

We have West Ham in the next round, that should be a fun game, we can call it the Declan Derby.

There are some injury rumours doing the rounds at the moment. Reports suggesting Saliba might be carrying a knock are worrying. But I do think it’s worth noting that Arteta revels in the confusion around who is and is not available.

My guess would be this: The only players not in the squad tomorrow will be Partey and Martinelli. We could see some names rested, especially after good performances against Brentford. But by the time City comes around, we’ll have a full batch of players to choose from.

I think having Partey and Martinelli in the mixer for City would be HUGE for Arteta – I just hope he isn’t rolling the dice on fitness so early in the season.

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Pierre

Left side
“Take a day off, we already have one resident buffoon in GOH.”
.
Un has been pushing him close the last couple of days.

MidwestGun

Raps.. yep.. well.. Nothing new.. VAR has a long ways to go on even what should be the simplest things to determine .. draw the line… look at it., release it to the media.. should take about 30 secs.

Oh well… in the long run.. I’m more concerned about Pool so not all bad .. Plus they racked up some cards.

London gunner

Luteo sounds like your massively self deflecting but enjoy your rap singles and have a good night. Weird creepy guy always chatting directly at me when I comment here. Move on.

Bob N16

London G – closest challengers to City last season, looking likely the same this season. Why come on here and try and pick a ‘fight’? ‘Clueless fucking idiots’ – take a look in the mirror.

TR7

Ange doing the smart thing playing Richarlison on the flanks. He is horrible as a striker.

Dissenter

Just means top 4 will be a very tough slug this season
As many as 8 teams are truly in it

Habesha Gooner

GD4

Lots of people are saying it. And apparently Diaz is onside. How is this level of incompetence possible. Just a joke. They were offered the use of AI for offsides before the season started too. Just a bunch of cunts who aren’t improving because no one is asking them to improve.

Some United fans are saying to get rid of VAR. Lol we know why. They want their era of joke refereeing decisions to come back.

Refs just need to use the technology for competent decisions.

Bob N16

Agree Mid. It seems ridiculous that in this technological age that the offside lines can’t be created immediately and the result is transparent and clear cut. Humans shouldn’t be involved. Liverpool are direct competitors with us – not Spurs so anything but a Spurs win was a decent result.

Luteo Guenreira

Oh god this again. Shut the fuck up Mariah.

You’re too stupid to have a coherent conversation with, you aren’t comprehend why a bunch of people are saying the same thing to you. But yes, you’re always justified and always correct.

You have probably been in a bunch of toxic relationships with the way you are. The lives we’ve led even reflect on these kinds of simple things. Serious get therapy.

Un

LuteoHey I was right though last season. When all the goons on here saying we wouldn’t bottle it. I called it because I’m not a hopeless idiot who deluded themselves like an utter fool. London gunner You write us off even though we were 9 points clear with 10 games to go but you’re worried about spurs even though you admit they have a one in a million chance? You see the irony in this right mate? Yeah, you were right, we didn’t win the league but even if we’d lost every single game up to now we’d stand more… Read more »

TR7

Goal line technology is so accurate, something of that sort required for offside too. Corrupt referees in EPL are hopeless.

London gunner

Mikel You are not the brightest spark are you? It’s pretty simple I love the club so I expect more. im not a pussy so I don’t think a club of our status should be bottling it and being so pathetic to throw it away against the bottom teams like we did last season. We could and we should have done better but I’m a realist and don’t like in a fake reality where I’m smiling slack jawed like a bumbling idiot despite throwing away the best chance we had in the last 20 years of winning the league. I’m… Read more »

Luteo Guenreira

Yes you love it so much you talk shit about the club and never expect good things for it.

What did I say about toxic relationships?

GD4

Guys just chill and enjoy the weekend .
Anyway I’m outta here.
Let peace reign on LeGrove.
We bloody won!

Bob N16

Dissenter, 4th place will be a battle ( don’t forget 5th CL football too) but the first three places will be almost certainly City, Arsenal and Liverpool with a decent gap to the rest.

Dissenter

What do you expect when Lee Mason was allowed back to “train”
Is he teaching then not to us the lines anymore

You’ll think Mason’s mistake forced them to create a checklist like pilots do before take off. Scrub nurses do before surgeries; hey dude what’s your name and birthdate ….and are we amputating your dick or your big toe”

Habesha Gooner

AI like the one used at the world cup gets almost every offside decision spot on. But refs in the PL just want their incompetence to continue. Why decline the use of proper technology. Cunts.

psuedo warrior

Its funny how the English media portray incompetence as some sort of achievement. “The Premier League never fails to deliver” apparently. No wonder there’s any real movement towards quality improvement, with that attitude.

Dissenter

Klopp said they told him at half time that they didn’t ‘draw their lines well”

There are AI programs that do this pretty well, as the World Cup proved

Bob N16

London G, genuine question, how did you cope with a 5th, 8th, 8th, 5th finish if second place is so offensive to you?

Dissenter

Let’s go easy on LG though
A few posters 😷😷😷, said they were cheering for spurs today for strategic reasons but they recanted as soon as they saw the glee on their faces at the end of the game.

Habesha Gooner

Anyway Nice day apart from that Matip own goal. Have a good ebening guys.

Madhu

May be it’s time to draw lines on the football pitch like they do in American football. Then VAT doesn’t an excuse not to draw the line. It’s not even funny it’s corruption and not incompetence

MidwestGun

Ya.. good day.. all around. On to the Champions League mid-week.

Leftside

You can’t point to that game as some sort of advert for the Premier League. That was a refereeing abomination and disaster class from VAR.

I said it in real time that the goal by Diaz didn’t look offside, and several replays since have comfirmed that.

Too many funny decisions in that match.

Luteo Guenreira

Diss

I’d reword that. There’s a difference in thinking a certain result is favourable and “cheering” for Spuds.

Dissenter

Madhu
‘ May be it’s time to draw lines on the football pitch like they do in American football. Then VAT doesn’t an excuse not to draw the line. It’s not even funny it’s corruption and not incompetence’

There are already lines on the field,

Dissenter

Luteo
Some people didn’t put it like that
Un famously cheered spurs in the cup final run because they are an English team.

Un …you know it’s true

Dissenter

Enjoying JamieCarragher’s pain

Jamie Carragher
@Carra23
When it takes this long for an answer from
@FA_PGMOL
over a contentious decision you know there’s been a f**k up!’

Pierre

As others have said، use the feet when judging offside، it would make things easier ، fairer and speed things up.

If a toe is offside then offside it is …

Leftside

See, that PGMOL statement is nonsensical. Liverpool have lost the game so what does that do?!?

Mr Serge

I am not sure how anyone ever wants spurs to win.
I find it just weird

I wanted pool to win if anything

Bob N16

Agree Pierre, put in a sensor in their boots- immediate decision, lines would be drawn immediately- taking human ‘error’ out of the process.

Batistuta

Weird but glad Pool lost. They look a serious team this season.

Spurs look good but you get a feeling an injury to Maddison or Son and they are in big trouble

Bob N16

Mr Serge, it is a conflicting situation- never want Spurs to win but Liverpool much more likely to finish above us so them dropping points was good news. I wanted a draw but happy to see Liverpool lose, Spurs jamming a last minute winner against 9 men is hardly an opportunity to crow.

Dissenter

PGMOL making ‘clear and factual errors’ with VAR
Who would have thought

I hope people revolt and make such a stinker that they actually start making people accountable
Always believed that good ole incompetence and refs being buddies is the issue not all northern referees paranoia
This was a ‘northern’ team that was done by incompetent oafs.

Like the Saudis are trying to do, the premier league ought to get the best referees in the world on performance contracts and go for it. There’s nothing on the rule book that says they have to be from England.

Mr Serge

Tell that to Bisouma he bought his kid onto the pitch lol

Bob

Pierre

The strang thing is there are normally 2 or 3 people at stockley park to assess a var decision، how could they all miss something so obvious.

Leftside

And wasn’t Simon Hooper the ref in the United Wolves game then subsequently dropped for the next game? It is the same story all the time.

The quality of the Prem and reputation for me is compromised by these inept reffing errors that are far too frequent for my liking.

Bob N16

As I said Serge, time for a Spuds DVD!

jwl

PGMOL just put out statement acknowledging they done fcuked up again and will be apologizing to ‘pool later, I’m sure they will appreciate the apology as much as we did when PGMOL fcuked us over.

Mikel Coneteta

“ I’m also not a fake cunt I grew up in area with Arsenal and Tottenham fans constantly beefing so I take this shit seriously. I’m not a passive aggressive internet cunt who started supporting Arsenal later in life“

Finally, some common ground.

Totally agree. You’re certainly not a fake cunt, you’re the real deal.

Leftside

Jota, as annoying as he is was silly for the second yellow card he received but his first one it didn’t even look like he touched Udogie. Udogie falls over himself seemingly.

Klopp rightfully annoyed with the officials because they are regularly affecting games with nonsensical calls.

Heaven forbid but what if its us next week, its annoying all around.

raptora

God bless that Pool are receiving their apology from he PGMOL. Surely that will add the lost 3 points to their PL tally, right?! Right?…

Luteo Guenreira

Leftside

The first Jota yellow was pretty harsh. All he was doing was running behind him and Udogie’s foot clipped Jota’s knee as his leg kicked backwards during his stride. I guess you could argue Jota was planning to run into him anyway to stop an advantage but very little contact and didn’t really seem like Jota intended it.

Mr Serge

Remember when var first came out and the final whistle went for Man U vs Brighton and the ref restarted the game allowed Man U to score the pen to win it and blew the final whistle again ? That’s robbery same as today to many Manchester fans running the refs

Bob N16

Incompetence or corruption- VAR officiating is one or the other.

Danny

Tierney substituted after 25 minutes with an injury, poor bloke.

Zacharse

Bob N16September 30, 2023 20:39:19
Incompetence or corruption- VAR officiating is one or the other.

someone should be getting the sack after that game
pretty terrible stuff

Bob N16

Zacharse- the thing is that the officials for that game should be toast but it happened previously in our game against Bournemouth so management should be held accountable too!

Zacharse

ya, we’ll see. i assumed part of the reason we got such bad reffing for so long was due to wenger nont playing by the unwritten rules of spending money, building up the league w glamor etc, buying chamakh etc
but pool play the game and we all know something is very odd abouot the way spuds interact w the media/pgmol
some look to levy, i look to the beyond corrupt owner

Marko

A point on the var stuff. Var isn’t the problem var actually works but it’s the incompetent cunts working the var that’s the problem. Imagine some dumb fuck didn’t do the one thing that you’re supposed to do on offside calls draw the line and he fucked it up. It’s pathetic that it happens again and again. Whoever was on var duty should be sacked. It’s the only way you stop these guys from keep making mistakes

Zacharse

marko
keep up.
if you have incompetent people working the gig, what does that say? incompetence and corruption are the biggest bait and switch there is

Nigel Tufnel

Two 4-nils in 10 days. Man City get a nice smack-down finally. That’s big news. Things looking good, I just hope Saka is ok. It looked a little worrisome. The spurs result was the right one for us. Liverpool look dangerous again. Not only were they cheated out of a goal, but it was a beauty by Diaz. Of all their new players, I’ve been saying he is the most dangerous. Only Salah is better for them. Earlier I mentioned spurs late wins, the jorginho gift, then playing against 9 men…. now add the Levys friends playing the undrawn lines… Read more »

GoonerDave

The TV companies are certainly benefitting from all the extra time and the contentious decisions. Do they have too much sway or is it a beautiful, lucrative coincidence for them? Extra 15 minutes on every game, with millions watching…that’s a lot of extra ad revenue per game. Also, it seems very dubious that the refs are stamping out timewasting while simultaneously adding on the time anyway.

Nigel Tufnel

I have a simple suggestion for pgmol. The VAR ref can be part of a team.

There should be another person sitting with the VAR just to make sure that the ref goes through all the procedures correctly, or even to call a play to their attention that they haven’t noticed.
The extra person doesn’t need to be a ref, just an intelligent person make sure nothing is missed in cycling through the procedures.
It’s an inexpensive redundancy.

AFC Forever

Marko

“ A point on the var stuff. Var isn’t the problem var actually works but it’s the incompetent cunts working the var that’s the problem”

Incompetent or corrupt? The offside process is completed when lines are drawn. Mason ‘Forgot’ to draw offside lines for the Brentford offside ‘goal’ at the Emirates. Today VAR apparently didn’t intervene. Sorry but it stinks if officials are allowed to ignore a process.

Ken

Nigel Tufnel September 30, 2023 19:31:08 Pool look a threat again this season. Why would anybody want to see them succeed?Even against the filthy spurs. Spuds are not a threat to the top of the table over a full season, so let them have their moments. Maybe they can take some points off Man City too. Mr SergeSeptember 30, 2023 20:17:03 I am not sure how anyone ever wants spurs to win. I find it just weird I wanted pool to win if anything What a conundrum Mr Serge. Maybe your friend “rough around the edges” Nigel is wierd. Or… Read more »

Markymark

Liverpool tend to get contentious decisions in London, need a strong ref at the bowl as they’ll howl and whistle for anything

Un

Diss
I would again
That was an English club promoting young English players and doing things the right way
Remember I grew up near Chelsea so my biggest rivalry is with them. I wouldn’t fight someone if they were a spurs or Chelsea fan or anything silly like that
I like to see young English players do well in Europe

Markymark

Ken – wind yer neck in . Nothing Nigel has said would upset any Arsenal supporter. Your just trying to extend some petty grievance

G8

Terrible stuff from the PGMOL
Scandalous
They never learn
This is beyond incompetence
Now watch the dippers to milk this farce out and get all decisions go their way for the rest of the season
Spuds are the ugliest jammy fuckers ever!

GD4

So if VAR works for the World Cup and the champions league what’s the problem with the FA from implementing the same thing here so we don’t keep having the same discussions every week? No one seems to have VAR issues in the aforementioned competitions to the extent that we have here every stinking week.

salparadisenyc

Have to think there is some bribing / bunging going on no other explanation for the humanoids fucking up the VAR this poorly.

Results wise i’ll take that Liverpool dropping points is ideal, they will be in this for the long haul.

Definition of Spursy, taking laps of honor after seeing off 9 man Liverpool with a late OG after that shocking OS call.

AFC Forever

GD4

True. Perhaps it’s because the Premier League is the most financially lucrative & most followed league. Let’s not forget what City have been caught doing. Then there is the huge gambling industry, nearly every club has sponsorship arrangements with betting company’s. Perhaps it’s Tin foil hat thinking but it just doesn’t make sense. How can ‘professionals’ with video replays make mistakes on such a regular basis? Incompetence once or twice but impossible on this scale. Something stinks.

salparadisenyc

Great result today easy as you like, nice touch with the pen given to Kai. Reading the in match comments today was hilarious, the player factions all shinning their chosen boys up as if it’s a pageant.

Belfast Gooner

It’s surely not beyond the wit of man, or even Howard Webb, to have a checklist on the desk in Stockley Park. It could list every check and action the VAR should complete when looking at a possible offside. It could list a reminder of the LOAF relating to handball. And for possible red card offences it could simply be a case of suggesting the on-field referee goes to the touchline to review his decision. They could even laminate the list and stick it to the desk with blu-tack. Then there would be no excuse for failing to complete the… Read more »

Zacharse

Definition of Spursy, taking laps of honor after seeing off 9 man Liverpool with a late OG after that shocking OS call.

lucky no one got hurt on the victory lap

Ken

I’ll wind nothing in Snarkymark. I’ll give you the rest of the night to look up as many big words as you find necessary to pretend you’re some sort of psychologist on an anonymous blog. Meanwhile I’ll be sleeping soundly. Goodnight to you and the funky bunch. Lol

AFC Forever

Sal

Great away win. 4 clean sheets in 5 games including 3 away wins, 12 goals scored, 2 conceded. Still unbeaten. That is very impressive. These players are just at the beginning, we have scary potential. Man City don’t look the same without Rodri & now we have some players back, I’m looking forward to giving City a game.

salparadisenyc

Has to be some truth to Pedro’s point that Arteta weaponises this injury news and rolls with it.
Doesn’t explain leaving Saka on but he does seem to relish letting the gossip go where it will without correction then fields a starting XI w/ 3 players supposedly wounded.

Matt B

Do fuck off Ken

salparadisenyc

Whose Ken?

Zacharse

“Goodnight to you and the funky bunch.”

honestly the funniest thing ive read here in a while

Zacharse

did you not see barbie sal?

jwl

PGMOL is a union, they exist to protect their incompetent members who are basically impossible to fire, nothing changes until the FA stops allowing the refs to operate as a separate entity with no scrutiny.

Matt B

Zacharse: The funky bunch? The funniest thing you’ve read on here — seriously?

jwl

ESPN journo – – This is what happened with the Luis Diaz “goal” which Liverpool had disallowed vs. Tottenham. There will be a deeper dive in the Monday VAR thread, but in simple terms the VAR took the wrong onfield decision – it led to the goal being disallowed. – So the VAR, Darren England, checked offside thinking the onfield decision was “goal.” It was a quick offside check because it was clear Diaz was onside, so he told the referee “check complete”. In telling the ref “check complete” he is saying the onfield decision was correct. – So the… Read more »

raptora

jwl,
in one sentence – VAR refs are absolute incompetent wankers.

Matt

We have been on the end of some dodgy decisions, but I’m not sure we’ve ever been done as dirty as Liverpool were today. Two sendings off that shouldn’t have happened and a perfectly good goal ruled out. I’m surprised Klopp took it as calmly as he did m.

jwl

Indeed they are, raptora.

Crowds use to sing about the refs being wankers, I wonder why they stopped singing it because it’s just as true today as it was thirty yrs ago.

Josip Skoblar

Jwl
This is sheer incompetence. This further undermines Var’s credibility in the PL. Where do they get those Var people? They are so thick!

Matt B

Surely, the death knell for VAR today

And the absolute joke that is Tottenham — playing against 9-man Liverpool for 20+minutes they can only get an own goal winner with virtually the last kick of the game

raptora

This story looks like an anecdote. If just 1 out of 300 random factors went differently, this joke of a situation would never have happened. I just rewatched the situation and as soon as Diaz scores, he sees the flag of the linesman. He doesn’t celebrate even for 1 second. Next shot of the camera is that of the linesman with his flag up and he remains on-screen for a total of 5 seconds. The whole VAR check continued around 35 seconds. Again, why didn’t we see any lines being drawn in the live streaming of the game? They drew… Read more »

jwl

raptora – from what I can tell, VAR officials were not at all paying attention and thought refs had given a goal, not offside, so they did lines quickly confirming diaz was onside and said ref made correct decision not realizing he had called offside.

raptora

We are supposed to believe that ZERO Liverpool players celebrated. ZERO Spud players went to the refs to protest. The cameras showed the linesman holding the flag up for 5 seconds. But the VAR buddies decided the ref’s original decision was to give the goal to Pool? And we are talking about a team of people not just 1 person. Surely nobody is that dumb? Surely?! The main VAR has a main display as well as a secondary one where they can see four alternative camera angles. They also communicate directly with the referee, again via a fibre line. There… Read more »

raptora

“He doesn’t celebrate even for 1 second.”

I stand corrected. Diaz celebrates for exactly 1 second before making a face full of disappointment. Because he’s seeing the raised flag of the linesman.

Maybe every single person in the room was on their phones watching tiktok and onlyfans instead of watching the game that they’re being paid to officiate? Good shit!

GD4

AFC,

I am sorry but I don’t understand what you’re pointing at?
Are you saying there is nefarious activity going on or is it merely sheer incompetence?

raptora

https://twitter.com/FootballReprt/status/1708201521769312290

Balogun with a thunderbolt goal + assist tonight in Monaco’s win vs OM to take on the No 1 spot in Ligue 1.

Kpankulu

Spare a thought for our resident super troll and antifan Guns of Hackney.

He gleefully predicted a loss to Bournemouth, like he did with Varchester United.

What a slimeball. Obviously, any team can lose on any given day, but to make such crass comments here is truly cynical.

salparadisenyc

Guns of Hackney is an acquired taste much like Acetone, Wild Turkey or some lowland distilled salt water.

After years of working thru the faults he’ll become your best mate and you will follow him into battle.
I can’t say that for all on here.

Un

Goh wasn’t around today because his mum and dad found out he’s been trolling on the web and he had his phone confiscated

Nigel Tufnel

Kpankulu is a man of taste.

Sal,,
I’d apply what you said just now to Sid.
Sid uses humour. He’s offbeat and quirky and never predictable. He keeps this place interesting.
Hackney is just base and obnoxious.

salparadisenyc

Un

I love the spirit and takes on Eddie and the Ø but stop projecting.

jwl

Why do they even have var, it seems like a make work job. Just set up a permanent monitor at each stadium and the ref can just run over to the screen on sidelines and judge for himself when a review needed.

Good news about Flo scoring, was worried about him after his disastrous debut.

Zacharse

GD4
nothing nefarious ever happens or has happened at PGMOL what are you on about. if it was true everyone would know about it right, especially the average fan

China1

If beating 9 man liverpool courtesy of bent refereeing doesn’t convince you that Angie is the second coming of Wenger then nothing will. Consider me a convert

I’ll be patiently awaiting his transformative impact on the entirety of English football, his building of multiple record breaking title winning teams playing the greatest football England has ever seen, building out a 23 year tenure at one club, marking his name as their greatest ever manager before getting a statue built outside a new stadium that he made key contributions to its construction

WENGER 2.0 let’s go!!!

Kpankulu

I can’t remember if the term “significant human error” or something similarly drastic was used to describe the highway robbery decision received by Arsenal last year.

Also, nary a peep on the celebrations of the trophyless pretenders in whitre. Goes to prove that there indeed is a bias against Arsenal – of the human error vaiety.

@Nigel: thank you for yout kind words. I appreciate your objectivity when you post even when peeps try to drown it in blatherous balderdash 🙂

China1

GOH? He’s not a spud but he predicts we lose most games, only comes out when he has a reason to mock the club and bet on spurs to beat us.

He’s definitely not a spud tho.…

China1

People have convinced themselves GOH is an elite gooner troll when in reality I consider it more likely he’s Tim Sherwood passing the time of day on here