CEO EXITS – BUT NOT THE REAL ONE

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Arsenal made the shock announcement that Vinai is exiting the club after 14 years. It might feel like an odd move – we’re winning, everything on the shop floor looks good, fans are happy… but I don’t think his exit is particularly surprising. Arsenal doesn’t have a normal corporate setup and titles aren’t always what they seem.

He leaves the club better than he found it – which will look good on the resume for whatever he does next. He seems to have put his name to a lot of soft projects that the fans have enjoyed. The atmosphere rebirth has his name on it, the fan artwork around the stadium seemed to be a point of pride, his relationship with supporter groups has been top tier, he drove a deeper relationship with under repped communities, and developing the fandom in key markets like America seems to have been a key push by him. Another commendable trait is he has kept his profile low through the rebuild. Ivan G was a much more front-and-centre type character – you don’t see much of Vinai, which considering the Ws we’ve been hailed for of late shows great restraint. I’m sure he’ll have people ready to snap him up worldwide when he takes his next steps.

Back to the job…

The CEO role at Arsenal football club isn’t really a position of significance now and I doubt it will be moving forward. Back when it was Ivan G, maybe it was, because Stan ran the club. Ivan took over the club in 2007 when winning wasn’t really the mission. We hired average people, performed averagely considering our position in the Premier League, and didn’t win a single major trophy. When Ivan eventually ducked out after a flaccid tenure – what did the club do? They gave the commerical bits to Vinai and made him the Managing Director. They then experimented with an absolutely disastrous co-leadership thing with Don Raul. A real dark moment for the club because some very, very weird things happened during that period that didn’t shine a positive light on anyone – it certainly looked like were were not a priority for ownership during that phase. Regardless, we put a very inexperienced person in charge of CEO duties that would normally be reserved for someone with a big resume.

What does that tell you about the CEO position at Arsenal? That it’s a placeholder position. Why? Because Josh K is very much the CEO of Arsenal. He has a direct relationship with the manager, he calls the shots on transfer budgets, and he gets involved in club strategy. The ‘Be Excited’ heir from KSE is now one of the best owners in sport. He’s winning big trophies, executing elite strategies across nearly all of his clubs, and he’s bringing a lot of joy to the fans.

Then you have the on-the-ground people. Tim Lewis, the exClifford Chance partner (and Arsenal fan) has a big role at the club on the board. Since he came into the club in a more pronounced way, we’ve got better. Raul was binned within 6 weeks, the shopfloor was cleared of bad eggs, we started hiring better people, and we’ve moved forward at immense speed. Would it be a stretch to say he has more influence than Vinai had? I prefer not to speak.

So in short – nothing changes now that the CEO is exiting – because the CEO was never the one with the title.

It’ll be interesting to see what we do next in that position – the club has been making lots of corporate hires in all sorts of interesting positions. Mark G has exited, and now we have fresh blood in PR. They’ve hired marketing execs from brands like Puma. It looks like there’s a lot of movement as the club seems to be trying to do more to capitalize on a moment when we are actually good – and to maybe catch up with clubs doing things a little bit differently to them with less.

 

There are different ways we could do things with a new CEO. Some clubs go for football expertise with their hires – people who know the system, can sit at UEFA meetings gain concessions whilst also having great relationships with agents and players. I’m not sure we need that, considering the draw we have right now.

We could also go for someone that is a commercial beast – because we’re about to have a very good 10 years and our financial gains over the past 20 really haven’t been that good. We’re currently 10th in Europe for revenue and we now sit firmly behind Spurs, Liverpool, Chelsea, and City. That has to be an area for improvement because I’d say outside Liverpool, we’re a much bigger club than the rest of them, and we’re nowhere near them.

Ivan Gazidis told us years ago the plan was to be the UK Bayern Munich – well, as it stands, we’re currently nowhere near Bayern. A whopping e200m gap sits between the clubs. We are in a bigger league, we’re in the English capital, we have an outrageous brand – why can’t we be playing closer to where they are?

Success plays a big role in this – but United are still coining it in despite a very rough decade. Arsenal sit 90m euros behind Spurs – 90m behind us is Dortmund. Spurs don’t even have a stadium sponsor yet. We should be doing better with the brand and history we have. Hopefully the next 10 years, with a young team everyone loves, and a serious model driving us to success – we can capitalise. Selling Arsenal right now must be easy. I hope the revenue guys have their PowerPoint presentations up to scratch!

It is progress that as fans, we don’t really care too much about corporate hires in 2023. 5 years ago, the role felt more consequential because it felts like our ownership was absent and we had a lot of frauds trying to drive the club. Now we have a clear vision that we’re executing against. We just signed Declan Rice for £105m – our biggest problem as a fan base is whether a kid that scored in a Champions League final will be good enough. We are living in a dreamworld.

Part of that was crafted by Vinai, so we have to thank him for him time, wish him well in his next endeavor, and hope that he landed a nice payout on his exit so he can afford all the nice merch Arsenal produce.

On the other side of things, be thankful that nothing is going to burn down with him gone. The club is in great shape, the ownership group give a shit, and all the hard work is paying dividends.

Ok, see you in the comments. x

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Josip Skoblar

Brighton are really the coolest PL club. Well done to them!

Josip Skoblar

When you have players like Varane and Casimero, it is a crime to play that bad.

local

“Ferguson, Fati, Mitoma and Pedro – Brighton have assembled a very good forward line.” – TR7

Enciso, March & Adingra as well.

Markymark

Spurs equalised?

China1

3-1 to Brighton final score. Should’ve been 5.

MidwestGun

Yep Richarlison scored… of all people. And he didn’t even cry.

Josip Skoblar

Ten Haag has lost his dressing room.

TR7

Spurs 2-1 up now

Markymark

Bummer at The Spuds

MidwestGun

They won it.. actually. in 12 mins of injury time.

China1

Sheffield Utd bottle job

Lol that sky sports are pushing the spurs are great narrative so hard

They keep calling them unbeaten so far this season. Bro it’s 5 games… and they were being called unbeaten heading into the 4th game as well wtf lol

Samesong

That spurs win is criminal how did SU let them win. I hope they go down.

MidwestGun

Meh Spuds… they aren’t great.. highly, slightly above average.

Madhu

Take a bow Brighton they are the team to watch. They made 6 changes and looked the same. Dezerbi is building one hell of a team. They lots thier entire midfield and yet there seems to be no effect of that. Love to watch them.

TR7

Villa were 1-0 behind and then scored 3 in injury time. Crazy stuff !!

MidwestGun

With all the added time this season gonna be a lot of games decided in injury time.

TR7

De Zerbi is tactically so far ahead of a lot of PL managers, totally outclassed ETH.

jwl

China1 – they cover their mouths because they’ve brought in lip readers a few times to determine what the players are saying to one another.
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“As noted by Lawton, the Liverpool man was determined by lip-readers to be yelling in Portuguese at Holgate, with the supposed words translating to “are you crazy, you son of a bitch?”

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2753368-mason-holgate-reportedly-facing-fa-punishment-over-alleged-homophobic-tweets.amp.html

Graham62

Brighton are the real deal.
Must be taken seriously.

Nigel Tufnel

So where are the vindicated Richarlison admirers? … let’s hear some pride in your boy.

MidwestGun

Nigel I don’t remember any Richarlison admirers. That sounds made up.. I did think he was better than DCL .. when all these teams were needing a striker that summer.

Graham62

TR7

It’s down to the players buying into his methods and enjoying what they’re doing.
At MU it seems that ETH methods are not liked and consequently the players are lost.
Brighton are at present up there with MC when it comes to playing great football.
I’m going for 3-1 win at Everton tomorrow.
Go with the flow!

Foxy

With players on the pitch maybe 10-15 minutes more effectively using 5 subs to the full is going to be key this season. Yes we have a strong bench but Arteta needs to learn how to use them better. Talking to some rugby union coaches might be a good start as they actively rotate as players especially in the pack start to tire

China1

Jwl ofc that’s the reason but it’s useless in all except extreme disciplinary cases which is not applicable to players talking to their own team mates anyway You’ve got 11 players on your team and players occasionally chatting to each other in multiple different languages Who is close enough to be able to lol read what is being said between them in real time (and understand if the language isn’t English) and able to react in time tactically Example: Sub comes on at CM and says to one of his fellow midfielders to drop a bit deeper and stay alongside… Read more »

MidwestGun

Well also China if it’s really loud, cupping your hands forms sort of a megaphone.. so the other player can hear you better. From experience.

Samesong

I so want to see City lose but at this stage who are they going to lose to?

Samesong

Mbeumo hatrick I said it here first.

Markymark

The blades got mugged by Prem levels of intensity

Chris

Ten Hag a fraud.

He’s spent half a billion brining in average players and all his mates from Ajax.

Ole played better football as United manager.

Markymark

China1 – I’d be thinking that someone out there has been suspected of real time image capturing and reporting straight back to an earpiece. Probably quite easy to do in a stadium

Topside Northbank

MU look a mess.

Bayern are not great so far this season but be surprised if they don’t lose Tuesday night.

Sancho not sure ETH has done himself any favours in a vibrant winning team his comments get a pass from most fans who only care about the bottom line, winning.

Erik Ten Matches this season if the first 5 PL games mirror the next 6pts 5 games and the CM fora start is a mess.

Topside Northbank

Surprised if MU don’t lose should read!

Chris

I’m honestly not meaning to be sensationalist but if United were smart (they don’t appear to be) they would be beginning to sound out other coaches. It’s only going to end one way with Seven Hag. He’s lost control. The whole Sancho thing is going to be the start of how it truly unravels for him.

They should admit defeat and get rid now. They likely won’t which is tremendous news for our entertainment.

Nigel Tufnel

Midwest I was trying to draw out the guys who were acting jealous that spurs signed Richarlishit last summer…they were saying it was a good buy for them. There were definitely people here saying that… they went quiet very quickly last season, as they always do when their dream players fail elsewhere. They Grove team of scouting geniuses. I and some others here said at the time that Richarlison was shite and always would be. People can still disagree but at least should have noted by now that he is a tactless thug without a football brain. Spuds are going… Read more »

TallestTiz

AC Milan thorn to shreds by Inter

Dissenter

How can the VAR ‘confirm’ that Newcastle penalty without asking the ref to check it

Muppetman

He’s just diving before he even gets there. How fast did var review it as well?

Spanishdave

Never a penalty refs crap

MidwestGun

Just sayin Nigel .. I think your over rating the amount of praising that goes on for Spuds players. There isn’t much. Tom baits people occasionally on it for sure. But, that summer we signed Jesus fairly quickly.. so I think the consensus was we got the best striker available that summer on LG. There were some including Pedro who thought Jesus doesn’t score enough. But don’t remember anyone saying … Richarlison is the dude we need and we will regret Spuds getting him. Anyhow, Richarlison definitely has talent as shown in brief spurts but it’s just ruined because he… Read more »

Topside Northbank

Soft pen Newcastle but surely someone had a word that the ruled out goal was also soft the GK is very weak and flaps.

As I type another pen it seemsagain that’s not intentional for me.

Dissenter

I don’t think anyone knows what handball penalties really are these days

Dissenter

Mbuemo is being pulled back at the same time the ball is being headed down unto his hands

MidwestGun

This referee is pretty shit.. Although Var has corrected him at least 2 times now.

Adams

I just love de zerbi. He is doing the best job so far in the league. How can you loose your two best players and still be this good?

MidwestGun

Well, Newcastle shit housed a victory out of that one … somehow. Ugly game.

X haka

Leftfield suggestion.

Arteta fails to win tomorrow again at Everton.

Arsenal gun for De Zerbi in the next international break and replace Arteta.

No doubts now, he is the best manager around.

englandsbest

All the main contenders for a top 4 finish – City, Liverpool. Brighton, Newcastle – won today. Plus Spurs. The usual suspects will bleat the game away to Everton is a ‘must win’. It isn’t. A draw will do.

The Brady bunch

Kudos to Uni, not such a mug after all

Samesong

Everton is a ‘must win’. It isn’t. A draw will do

Admire your confidence. I myself am confident of a win Everton haven’t even scored at home this season and scored two goals all season.

jwl

Gooners are retweeting manure fan reactions and it’s glorious, they not best pleased that they just lost at home to Brighton’s B team.

Positive pete

But Chris.How can you say that? We’ve been told by the media & Yahnited fans that he’s the “ greatest manager EVER” .He’s a genius.He’s steadied the sinking ship.etc etc etc.We’re back I heard them say.We’re contenders.
Ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha .Wonderful.I give it till xmas.In fact if the wolves & Forest home bankers had gone the way they should have.aThe old toilet faithful( as they refer to themselves)would already be screaming for his head.The miserable,whinging,git.

Positive pete

China.Yep for awhile there on Sky I’d thought the spuds were threatening our 49 game unbeaten run such was the amount of occasions they mentioned their 4/5 match run this season.Must say ,it sounds phenomenal.Record breaking( well ,on sky at least)lol😂😂😂😂& beating Sheffield Utd a giant of the game,in extra time .Incredible.

Tom

“Must say ,it sounds phenomenal.Record breaking( well ,on sky at least)lol😂😂😂😂& beating Sheffield Utd a giant of the game,in extra time .Incredible.“

Let them have their moment in the Sun, I’m sure it will last too.

Didn’t we have our best start to a PL season last year everyone talked about?
If I heard correctly this is their best in 45 years.

You can’t take the piss out of United for being a basket case and also take the piss out of Spurs for having their shit together, if only temporarily.
Makes you sound desperate, Pp.

Positive pete

Errr Tom . Me thinks you’re talking a load of Bollocks there. If you pardon my French.I’ll take the piss out of any opposition club I like,when I like.And in particular those Two clubs.How in gods name does it make me or anyone desperate? Don’t see the connection at all.Unless you’re back to being Tottenham Tom again? Then of course you’d be upset ,understandably.
Any other fan of our club I’m fairly sure gets the jist of what I’m saying.You? Or is it an attempt to be contrarian.

Pierre

After watching united i would say that Onana is very overrated، their new striker couldn’t trap a bag of cement and Casimero’s legs have gone..

raptora

I agree about Onana, Pierre. Overrated and also a clown. He had just joined a couple of ago and in preseason started yelling at Maguire, a Manure captain. I predict he’ll be a problematic player on and off the pitch. Overrated quality as well. Hojlund is very young and is a big task for him to lead the line for a club as big as Manure. Same for Nico Jackson at Chavs. Both teams are not doing well and the strikers very often suffer because of the mess behind them. Meanwhile: 200 – Mohamed Salah has been directly involved in… Read more »

Zacharse

PierreSeptember 16, 2023 23:12:57
After watching united i would say that Onana is very overrated، their new striker couldn’t trap a bag of cement and Casimero’s legs have gone..

he had one very good save i remember spose he’s overrated but degea is not an easy act to follow. this was gonna happen no matter who came to fill his boots. utds comeuppance for years of skating w DGD holding the line

Zacharse

do we think this year is a tougher league than last year? leicester were featherweight akin to luton i suppose.
have we reached peak premier league?

Mee

englandsbest
“All the main contenders for a top 4 finish – City, Liverpool. Brighton, Newcastle – won today. Plus Spurs. The usual suspects will bleat the game away to Everton is a ‘must win’. It isn’t. A draw will do.”

Why would you say that? How will we ever win the league if we drop points to teams around the bottom of the table?

izzo

I kept saying Ten Hag would fail and go back to the Dutch league but most of you wouldn’t listen because of his flukey Ajax team in CL. Rubbish manager being found out.

Nigel Tufnel

Midwest,

You’re always protecting people who are on record with bad, bad opinions on football players, managers, etc.
It wasn’t just Richarlishit, it was Bissouma, Djed Spence (!) And in the past there have been more like Aurier, Victor Wanyama being overrated here.

You and I make plenty of mistakes but we don’t hide from them or deny them.

Next you’ll be defending the geniuses here by saying there weren’t too many drooling over Ten Hag….
80% of the posters here (or more) were up his arse, dreaming about him.
How is it working out???

Tell me I’m exaggerating again.

Ben D

Ten Hag is clearly not very good. The contrasting post match interviews by De Zerbi and Ten Hag clearly shows the gulf in quality. De Zerbi admits his team had a tough start to the game because they hadn’t expected the formation and system Man U started the game with. He clearly got them to change their own system in response and they were concretely comfortable after thar. Ten Hag, on the other hand, is saying they played well especially in the first half and were unlucky to lose because they conceded from Brighton’s first chance and had their own… Read more »

Ben D

Add to that the fact that he only buys players he has prior relationships with, and trying to manage the United dressing room the way he managed an Ajax dressing room.made of mainly academy graduates.

If he’s not sacked, Man U won’t make top 4

MidwestGun

Nigel.. and your always calling people stupid, idiots and clowns.. that you don’t know. It just makes you come across as a pompous ass. Nobody on here is perfect.. your right. Least of all you.

allezkev

Ten Hag is doing an absolutely amazing job, he’s taking United to the next level, down, and I sincerely hope that he gets a new contract extension next summer. Well done Erik…

Nigel Tufnel

For Pierre: Theo Walcott on the greatest team talk he has ever received: “It was actually Mikel Arteta, He was playing for us at the time, Arsenal, and it was when we were struggling, not making top four.” “And he essentially [called] a meeting for the players only, and he just said it how it was, said a few truths, he said exactly what we needed to do. And then after that moment, we made fourth quite comfortably in the end.” “Essentially that inspired everyone, and I’m not surprised why he’s doing so well here (at Arsenal). That sort of… Read more »

Nigel Tufnel

Midwest, I’m happy to admit when I’m wrong like I just said…. other people hide and deflect, …. even lie and deny. They will all be hiding when they see Havertz is a great fit, and I’ll be reminding them. So ….. no answer from you about the % of grovers that had wet beds (in a different manner) over Ten Hag ???? One guy posts here every day, and all I heard from him from April through the summer window was how Rice was not worth the money. He’s already gone quiet. He should be raising his hand and… Read more »

MidwestGun

Nigel- What it boils down to is name… names and let them defend themselves. Otherwise stop vilifying a position as… “Le Grove’s” opinion when you have no idea how many people on here feel a certain way or not or hold an opinion for life or what the majority view was on things that happened months or years ago. It Might be one vocal dude who posts a hundreds times that your remembering. My experience has been name any player or any Arsenal football subject and you will get a wide variety of opinions on here. Doesn’t matter what it… Read more »

China1

Tom you’re missing the point I didn’t mock spurs tho I gladly will (overrated) I mocked that the media is on some weird case to keep referring to their run as unbeaten as tho at this stage of the season that’s a special achievement. It isn’t. Arsenal are also unbeaten and I don’t care to hear us get described as such because frankly I’d have expected it at this stage. And the weirdest part was before their 4th game of the season I heard it mentioned by commentary/sky sports. Imagine commenting on a big 6 club being unbeaten from the… Read more »

MidwestGun

Ten Hag is doing an absolutely amazing job, he’s taking United to the next level, down, and I sincerely hope that he gets a new contract extension next summer. Well done Erik…

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Haha 100% accurate Kev… agreed.

MidwestGun

Nigel-

I would say about 65% of Le Grove liked Ten Hag when he was available and Arsenal were struggling under Arteta the first 2 and half years. Not sure what your point is about that to be honest? People liked a lot of managers over the last 16 years of Le Grove that turned out to be shit.

China1

ETHs biggest crime has been to believe his own hype

It’s extremely smug and thinks he’s the dogs bollocks because he won a few trophies with Ajax in the Dutch league. Sorry but that’s like winning with Bayern in Germany or PSG in France. It’s totally meaningless. Even Poch who won zero trophies with an excellent spurs squad he built was able to win several trophies at PSG. It’s pure easy mode

China1

Englandsbest not sure on what planet it would be a good result for us to draw today and slip to 4 points off the top after only 5 games. Least of all vs Everton

We’re supposed to be aiming for the title. If drawing at Everton is a good result so is drawing at half the PL teams. Which would kill our title hopes pretty sharpish. Last season I think we lost the title by 5 points. You’d be happy with us already surrendering 4 points so early in the season? Really?

Nigel Tufnel

We should be disgusted with a draw against Everton if that were the result. . No way to dress it up.

Patrick

Ange.

Big Ange.

Zacharse

AdamsSeptember 16, 2023 19:25:39
I just love de zerbi. He is doing the best job so far in the league. How can you loose your two best players and still be this good?

they bought well

raptora

Brighton’s starting XI includes
Steele £0
Dunk £0
Damoud £0
Lallana £0
Welbeck £0
Veltman £0.9m
Mitoma £2.4m
Groß £3.1m
Lamptey £1.5m
Total £7.9m for 9 players

raptora

Van Hecke (£2m) and Adingra (£8m) takes it £17.9m for the starting XI. That’s quite insane.

Un

ZacharseSeptember 16, 2023 23:51:52 do we think this year is a tougher league than last year? leicester were featherweight akin to luton i suppose. have we reached peak premier league? Zach Liverpool are beginning to look a real threat again City are city and spurs look good under their new manager Then you have the new teams bubbling under Villa Newcastle and Brighton are all very dangerous and capable of a top 4 finish in my opinion West Ham and Brentford are tough The league is now furnished with very difficult to beat sides who have money, quality and top… Read more »

Madhu

Raptora thanks for that. It’s insane as to what they are doing. In addition to that the profit of sales is mond boggling. It’s not that they are playing crap football and scraping through but playing an attractive brand of football. Goes to show that there are different ways to run a football club and Brighton just adds a different perspective to value for money. Can’t help but to admire the club. De Zerbi mentioned that they have a DNA and they have to go by that.

Madhu

One more point on the GK position in Brighton. In the 5 games they have used both GK and there is no difference in how they start the build up. Goes to show why we got Raya and I think we will see more rotation between Rams and Raya. Brighton is leading the way in that aspect already.

Un

Szoboszlai is a player I desperately wanted at arsenal
He’s gonna be big

China1

Raptora that’s a ridiculous stat on the cost But it also underscores very clearly that you do NOT need to sit in the top end of the market to buy excellent players. It is simply a lack of serious scouting from rich clubs which results in them blowing 2-3x the real market value on players simply because they can, rather than because they need to cost tht much It’s lazy Clubs like Brighton and Dortmund have proved time and time again that quality players are out there at bargain prices if you are just smart and proactive enough to find… Read more »

raptora

Madhu,
It’s ridiculous. We paid as much for Lokonga as Brighton paid for their starting XI in total. And they dominated Manure away with that team. What you said about the 2 GKs is also valid. Also the way they transitioned from Potter to De Zerbi was so impressive. Best ran FC at the moment.

China1

Looking at Ute’s performances this season I’m feeling pretty confident that Utd’s legs are gone in midfield Casemiro was really good last season but looks older now. His performances are clearly worse and he’s not bringing much. Eriksen as well has gone from this smart deep lying playmaker to looking frankly old and jaded on the pitch. He’s becoming increasingly irrelevant and no longer dictating play I think eriksens big decline is also contributed to by the dreadful ETH tactics which evidently just consist of passing between defense and keeper until someone feels under pressure and goes long on a… Read more »

China1

Un yeah about 2 or 3 years ago after he tore up the Austrian league he was available for something like 20m. Many of us said at the time he looked like a real one to watch coming through the RB teams (they are a factory of talent including Haaland, Konate, Upamecano etc) We passed at the time and he switched to RB Leipzig I think. Rest is history. But given the option I would’ve gone for him at attacking 8 over havertz any day of the week. He’s hit the ground running and looks like he’s going to be… Read more »

China1

Man a midfield of rice ode and Szoboszlai would probably be unplayable imo

Ballers for days

Un

China
Yeah I was a big fan way back then too
Still
Glad he’s at Liverpool and not chelsea United or spurs
He’s one I’ll tune in to watch
Love his game
Liverpool looking very interesting again this season
Expect Darwin to have a strong year

China1

Fun fact

Chelsea are already ELEVEN points behind city (with a game in hand) lol. Just a shame today they’re playing Bournemouth who are absolutely shite and might gift them 3 free points

If they don’t win today I think pressure will already start mounting on Poch lol. Here’s to hoping

Also Englands best, you say a draw would be a solid result vs Everton – the same Everton which have been in relegation battles two years running and have only 1 point from their first 4 games. They’re trash and we need to be ruthless with such teams

Madhu

I thought that was sarcastic comment on our result against Everton. We absolutely need to win against Everton no excuses.

raptora

Szobo is a little overrated atm. I watched him in 2 of their games and I wasn’t that impressed. Still, very solid for a newbie to the league and a young player as well but I’d take it easy with the superlatives. Way too early to be mentioned as an elite player or even a player with elite potential.

raptora

Havertz will be crucial today. Not only today but versus the physical teams that are dangerous on set pieces and through their tall, strong players – that also includes City btw. We’ve been having some shit results there over the years cause we didn’t have an answer for them bullying us across the pitch. The whole idea of buying Kai Havertz was to help us today (and in similar games to today’s). Kai will be judged over today’s performance because the other games we could have won without him, no worries. But today, we’ll need him and he has to… Read more »

raptora

I must say I enjoyed Danny boy tearing Manure a new one. He celebrated as well, something he didn’t do when he scored vs us last season.

raptora

But yeah, I’m pretty sure the whole idea of buying Kai Havertz ahead of some of our other targets was to help us in games like today’s. Physical teams, that non-surprisingly include City. If he does what he was bought to do, he might deliver a MotM performance today.

Mr Serge

De zerbi is amazing I hope manure don’t look at yesterdays game and think he is our next manager he would turn them around.

Raps agree Kai needs to make the difference today and we need to banish the ghosts of the last 3 seasons and actually win at Goodison. Anything other than 3 points is not good enough

EdTheRed

I have a feeling that quite few on this blog would be happy with a draw, or even defeat today, as long as Kai’s statistical performance is up to scratch.

As for Walcott sucking off Arteta, well he’s just finished his playing career and is clearly looking for a job, but he should make it little less obvious.

We need to win today, and win convincingly. Anything else, and we could be out of title race by the time we play City.

China1

Ah I don’t think Walcott is that cynical tbh

He’s a very down to earth guy, one of the few players who never seemed to have his head turned by the money

In his mid 20s he famously spoke glowingly about how his wife bought him a coffee machine for his birthday present which he’d wanted for ages but never bought – in spite of earning a fortune

I believe Walcott is a genuinely sweet bloke – perhaps too much so for the football field sometimes where a little bit of nastiness can help).

Markymark

Many posters on this site have their sins. Mine is to draw psychological linkage to other posters offerings and the occasional splenetic rant over Wenger. Surely a sign of projective defence mechanism ( see what I did there ). Sid waffles on about his penis. Tom has is occasions where other football teams create a desired object for him. Pierre can’t let go and is stuck in a complex grief cycle. Nigel calls people silly. It appears calling people silly is the biggest sin of all. You can hurl the most loathsome insults at someone but call them silly and… Read more »

Markymark

I’m usually fairly sanguine over results but the fact that a close mate is an Everton supporter means this is life or death. If Kai air shots today there’s going to be broken furniture in my house. We need a win though to keep the window of pursuit open. A draw will be crap. Defeat a pile of shite

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Sorry but your history on player potential is pretty lousy so I’m gonna go ahead and say I love watching him all
The same
And wish we’d have signed him a couple of years back