CEO EXITS – BUT NOT THE REAL ONE

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Arsenal made the shock announcement that Vinai is exiting the club after 14 years. It might feel like an odd move – we’re winning, everything on the shop floor looks good, fans are happy… but I don’t think his exit is particularly surprising. Arsenal doesn’t have a normal corporate setup and titles aren’t always what they seem.

He leaves the club better than he found it – which will look good on the resume for whatever he does next. He seems to have put his name to a lot of soft projects that the fans have enjoyed. The atmosphere rebirth has his name on it, the fan artwork around the stadium seemed to be a point of pride, his relationship with supporter groups has been top tier, he drove a deeper relationship with under repped communities, and developing the fandom in key markets like America seems to have been a key push by him. Another commendable trait is he has kept his profile low through the rebuild. Ivan G was a much more front-and-centre type character – you don’t see much of Vinai, which considering the Ws we’ve been hailed for of late shows great restraint. I’m sure he’ll have people ready to snap him up worldwide when he takes his next steps.

Back to the job…

The CEO role at Arsenal football club isn’t really a position of significance now and I doubt it will be moving forward. Back when it was Ivan G, maybe it was, because Stan ran the club. Ivan took over the club in 2007 when winning wasn’t really the mission. We hired average people, performed averagely considering our position in the Premier League, and didn’t win a single major trophy. When Ivan eventually ducked out after a flaccid tenure – what did the club do? They gave the commerical bits to Vinai and made him the Managing Director. They then experimented with an absolutely disastrous co-leadership thing with Don Raul. A real dark moment for the club because some very, very weird things happened during that period that didn’t shine a positive light on anyone – it certainly looked like were were not a priority for ownership during that phase. Regardless, we put a very inexperienced person in charge of CEO duties that would normally be reserved for someone with a big resume.

What does that tell you about the CEO position at Arsenal? That it’s a placeholder position. Why? Because Josh K is very much the CEO of Arsenal. He has a direct relationship with the manager, he calls the shots on transfer budgets, and he gets involved in club strategy. The ‘Be Excited’ heir from KSE is now one of the best owners in sport. He’s winning big trophies, executing elite strategies across nearly all of his clubs, and he’s bringing a lot of joy to the fans.

Then you have the on-the-ground people. Tim Lewis, the exClifford Chance partner (and Arsenal fan) has a big role at the club on the board. Since he came into the club in a more pronounced way, we’ve got better. Raul was binned within 6 weeks, the shopfloor was cleared of bad eggs, we started hiring better people, and we’ve moved forward at immense speed. Would it be a stretch to say he has more influence than Vinai had? I prefer not to speak.

So in short – nothing changes now that the CEO is exiting – because the CEO was never the one with the title.

It’ll be interesting to see what we do next in that position – the club has been making lots of corporate hires in all sorts of interesting positions. Mark G has exited, and now we have fresh blood in PR. They’ve hired marketing execs from brands like Puma. It looks like there’s a lot of movement as the club seems to be trying to do more to capitalize on a moment when we are actually good – and to maybe catch up with clubs doing things a little bit differently to them with less.

 

There are different ways we could do things with a new CEO. Some clubs go for football expertise with their hires – people who know the system, can sit at UEFA meetings gain concessions whilst also having great relationships with agents and players. I’m not sure we need that, considering the draw we have right now.

We could also go for someone that is a commercial beast – because we’re about to have a very good 10 years and our financial gains over the past 20 really haven’t been that good. We’re currently 10th in Europe for revenue and we now sit firmly behind Spurs, Liverpool, Chelsea, and City. That has to be an area for improvement because I’d say outside Liverpool, we’re a much bigger club than the rest of them, and we’re nowhere near them.

Ivan Gazidis told us years ago the plan was to be the UK Bayern Munich – well, as it stands, we’re currently nowhere near Bayern. A whopping e200m gap sits between the clubs. We are in a bigger league, we’re in the English capital, we have an outrageous brand – why can’t we be playing closer to where they are?

Success plays a big role in this – but United are still coining it in despite a very rough decade. Arsenal sit 90m euros behind Spurs – 90m behind us is Dortmund. Spurs don’t even have a stadium sponsor yet. We should be doing better with the brand and history we have. Hopefully the next 10 years, with a young team everyone loves, and a serious model driving us to success – we can capitalise. Selling Arsenal right now must be easy. I hope the revenue guys have their PowerPoint presentations up to scratch!

It is progress that as fans, we don’t really care too much about corporate hires in 2023. 5 years ago, the role felt more consequential because it felts like our ownership was absent and we had a lot of frauds trying to drive the club. Now we have a clear vision that we’re executing against. We just signed Declan Rice for £105m – our biggest problem as a fan base is whether a kid that scored in a Champions League final will be good enough. We are living in a dreamworld.

Part of that was crafted by Vinai, so we have to thank him for him time, wish him well in his next endeavor, and hope that he landed a nice payout on his exit so he can afford all the nice merch Arsenal produce.

On the other side of things, be thankful that nothing is going to burn down with him gone. The club is in great shape, the ownership group give a shit, and all the hard work is paying dividends.

Ok, see you in the comments. x

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Markymark

Am I number 1!?

Markymark

Get in there 2 on the trot

Danny S

Just looking at things.

How are Tottenham worth more than arsenal?

We have a more expensive squad, we own our stadium, we have a bigger brand abroad….. where does that stock come from?

Danny S

4th

jwl

I think CEO of football club is odd position because the club’s owner and the manager have most influence/power in development of company, while CEO oversees the different departments and make sure nothing going drastically wrong. Also, when Garlick was hired he seemed to be responsible for a bunch of things that I thought the CEO would be responsible for, so I wondered what exactly does Vinai do. I also think most of those marketing jobs are unnecessary, how we do as club with our commercial deals is entirely dependent on where we are in table. Nobody in our marketing… Read more »

X haka.

He won’t be missed.

Had dealings with the bloke.
He is an idiot.

X haka

Don’t think he will be missed.
Comes across as a lightweight and bit of an idiot.

Probably end up working for the FA, like most drips.
Eg Southgate

Northbanker

top 7

Chrispy

Danny S …..the spuds had CL revenue.

Tikpo

Oh well, executives come and go. The Arsenal remains my passion.

Northbanker

I think all things consideered that Josh assuming the formal title of CEO is probably the best outcome we could hope for. The more Arsenalised he becomes, the better for the club. He is Stan’s heir to the throne and seems a very capable operator.

jwl

Taken from gooner twitter but I was delighted to read this. Its good that we finally taking size seriously again, it should be big advantage for us in dominating teams. ————— Arsenal will likely field a squad with a record average height against Everton since the undefeated Invincible generation left. With the presence of the summer 2023 recruit duo Kai Havertz and Declan Rice, in addition to the return to the starting lineup of defender Gabriel Magalhaes, Arsenal is expected to appear with a squad with an average height of 1.84m. There has not been a squad approaching such a… Read more »

jwl

I read this a few weeks ago, it is 20th anniversary of Invincibles article. Big guys give you both physical and mental advantages that should help us greatly. ———- “They were a team of giants,” says former Wolves midfielder Alex Rae, who checks in at 5ft 6in (168cm). “I remember standing there with Colin Cameron who, believe it or not, is shorter than me. We turned, saw Vieira and Petit, then turned back to each other. ‘Look at the size of these boys!’ “It was like the Billy Connolly sketch where we’re the two wee Scottish guys saying: ‘Let’s get… Read more »

Johng

Northbanker I agree, we need Josh to have a love for the Arsenal.We don’t want their American brands taking precedent over us

Johng

I am not totally surprised we are the odd 300 million behind the leaders.We really haven’t been very good up until recently at getting good commercial deals. It would always be “Arsenal signed a new kit deal worth 10 million a season” and then the next week Man u would announce a 20 million deal.

Johng

I think if we can score first and quieten their fans we should win for the first time in years at that shit hole

TheLegendaryDB106

Nice Post Pedro! There is another area where the new CEO has to get to grips with at The Arsenal: our player sales!!! We can’t carry on selling players for a pittance even when we are doing well. I mean, as much as I dislike Chelski, you have to be amazed how they have always managed to extract a decent fee out of any players they sold. So if we can emulate a little bit of that and start selling players for a premium fee, this will help our club reinvest in new players with some money left over for… Read more »

englandsbest

Seems to me the club has an overabundance of execs – and BoD yes-men.

One

Josh for CEO. I mean, he’s been forefront with his drive to make arsenal bigger and better, will likely do much better than a new hire. Great relationship with Arteta, has backed him from the beginning. I hope he takes the mantle.

One

Still can’t believe Martinelli was bought for 6m.

Madhu

If Josh becomes CEO it makes more sense to have a COO. I am not sure we have anyone. Since Josh will be more remote as CEO he can set the strategy and directions, COO can execute and run the shop everyday.

Markymark

This should include the Manager. Wenger was tall. Mertesacker would help greatly
– Fergie was shorter and won more

Markymark

Mourinho shorter than Papa Wenger and persistently destroyed Wenger. It should be repeated our win opportunity against Mourinho was just 10% under Wenger.
It’s not the size of the dog

Markymark

Josh is very tall though and I like him👍

Pierre

X haka
“Don’t think he will be missed.
Comes across as a lightweight and bit of an idiot.”

That’s a little harsh on markymark…

Pierre

The question is، will Arteta repeat his mistake of last season and bring jesus back too early when he clearly wasn’t sharp enough. It’s very easy to get fooled into thinking that jesus is ready and 100% fit to return after a good cameo v united ، but it is a world of difference coming on for 15 minutes than starting against a very physical Everton side at goodison. Personally I think he should be saved for Wednesday champions league against psv at home ، give him an hour or so and if he looks ready then start him v… Read more »

Bob N16

If only Arteta was as wise as you Pierre……

Pierre

The last time we won at Everton was under wenger (5-2).. since then we have lost 4 and drew one at goodison. and the draw was with Freddie Ljundberg as manager.

Under wenger we had a run of 23 games against Everton from 2007 until 2018 and lost twice.، winning 15.

Maybe Arteta should give Wenger a call for advice on how to beat Everton

Kalle

Hello Le Groaners!! Oops. Typo! 😉

Pierre

Bob
“If only Arteta was as wise as you Pierre……”

A question for you Bob that requires an honest answer.

Do you think that ladt season jesus looked as sharp as earlier in the season when he came back from his knee injury…a yes or no would be suffice.

Kalle

Jwl

That’s an interesting stat. Hopefully we get to add our target-man number 9 in the next window too.

Talking about a target man… Victor Boniface of Bayern Leverkusen is looking a gem. I hope we’re checking him out. He might be a better and cheaper option to someone like Vlahovic, Ferguson and even Osimhen. He played well against Bayern yesternite even though he missed a sitter. He is an Arsenal fan too.

Dissenter

Pedro
The ‘commercial revenue’ chart you put up just reflects the importance of CL football
There’s very little Vinai could do when all we’ve had was EL football, which we couldn’t even win. Spurs seemed to be making more simply because they’ve had CL consistently

Markymark

Pierre – I tell you who won’t be missed and that’s bug eyed Ozil.
Now I know it’s difficult to deal with that your “alpha”male Wenger was in fact very , very beta against Mourinho. It must suck, but it is a fact. Wenger even sells him our generational stand out player and gets paid back with humiliation. What a way to celebrate your 1000th game in charge.

Dissenter

Josh doesn’t need to be the CEO because he’s always been the de facto CEO.
The position on offer is essentially a COO.

I think the Kroenkes learned their lessons quickly after the Pepe mis-signing.

Pierre

Pedro “our biggest problem as a fan base is whether a kid that scored in a Champions League final will be good enough.” It’s probably wiser not to allow the fact that Havertz scored in a champions league final to influence whether he is playing well enough to continue starting for Arsenal. The problem we have is that because we have had a decent start results wise ، it may convince some that Havertz is pulling his weight as he has started every game. Personally I think there is a danger we may be in a false position due to… Read more »

Mr Serge

Danny SSeptember 15, 2023 21:37:22
Just looking at things. How are Tottenham worth more than arsenal? We have a more expensive squad, we own our stadium, we have a bigger brand abroad….. where does that stock come from

They are not worth more they have had more revenue recently that’s what that chart says. 3 seasons of CL revenue over us plus all the concerts nfl stuff etc. we are significantly more valuable as a club and squad than the spuds

Mr Serge

Goodison has been a bad place for us to go and get a result for some seasons now

Pierre

Markymark
“Pierre – I tell you who won’t be missed and that’s bug eyed Ozil.”

Sanchez and Ozil ripped Everton apart in our last win at goodison in a 5-2 victory، let’s hope we have players like them tomorrow who will let their superior skill، intelligence ، movement، tempermant and technique do the talking…

Markymark

Dissenter – that’s likely spot on. It’s sort of filling space around Josh. In political life I’m all for democracy but quite happy with authoritarian autocracy in sport

raptora

Spuds stadium is better than ours, probably that it was built more recently helped being more modern. They are getting a lot of concert gigs – Beyonce, Gaga, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Guns N’ Roses etc. They’ll host a bunch of NFL games in October. They were the venue for boxing games such as Joshua v Usyk and Fury v Chisora. Also they organize Rugby games and as part of a 15-year partnership with F1, Spuds are getting the world’s first in-stadium electric karting facility which is also the first official F1 karting facility in the world. We need to… Read more »

Wengaball

“Mourinho shorter than Papa Wenger and persistently destroyed Wenger. It should be repeated our win opportunity against Mourinho was just 10% under Wenger.
It’s not the size of the dog”

The size of the budget in fact.

Go check out Mourinho’s spends VS Wenger’s negative net budget.

That a simple logic like that escapes attention tells you only one thing – agenda.

Bob N16

raptora, the limitation of concert numbers is down to Islington Council restrictions and the need to get the pitch ready for the new season. Spuds don’t have grass issues and Haringey Council may let more concerts happen in the shithole of Tottenham High Road.

Pierre, Jesus’ best form was before his serious knee injury.

Rich

Pierre is having nostalgic memories about last season, that don’t hold up to reality. Last season we needed a 87th winner to beat Fulham at home. We needed an injury time winner from Eddie to beat United at home…. But now he’s concerned about another injury time goal, but a better result, We beat Palace 0-2 away, were electric for the first 30 minutes, but after that Palace dominated the play, and it was only a Saka deflected cross late on that killed the game. We were ok in the first half at Leeds, it was fairly even, but then… Read more »

FB

I spy Rich,

Short name, long comments, but good to see you back.

My last comment to you a few day’s ago was “you’re wasting your time”, lo and behold, an angel from Islington did descend and shit on your noggin.

Ben D

Did I just read someone saying we should be looking at Boniface of Leverkuson? The guy missed a million easy chances yesterday!!!

Some of you are just obsessed with every player who doesn’t play for Arsenal

Mr Serge

So glad football is back I had to take a short sabatical as people on here where talking some crazy shit on world order and vaccines etc

Howard

Josh needs to restructure the recruitment department as well. They’re not doing well with player sales. They should look for someone with more experience and european knowledge.

China1

Interesting fact I stumbled on recently was China was possibly the first country to utilize vaccination hundreds of years back as they noticed by grinding up small pox scabs from people with low symptom infections and blowing them up infected peoples noses to give them a mild dose and subsequent immunity worked

Gross but cool

raptora

19/20 squad when Arteta took charge
https://twitter.com/kimmoFC/status/1702697592809722079

Martinelli, The Smith, Nelson, Saka with Nketiah and Elneny loaned back then and Tierney loaned now.

That loser team full of bad apples won the FA Cup that season.

jwl

“The vision for this football group is that one day we’re not selling hot dogs and beers to our customers; [it’s] that we’re selling insurance or financial services or whatever.” That’s Everton’s new owner talking about how they going to use fan bases of all their clubs to sell their financial products to. Everton are in bad place, I had no idea, their rich owner pissed enormous sums up the wall, he desperate to get out, and now wide boys from America are coming in. Toffee supporters must be feeling so much dread today, what are the new owners like,… Read more »

9ja Gunner

Come on guys! Lets smarsh them.

Positive pete

You just knew it.The minute the mickey mousers scored their first wolves were f** kd.& so it comes to pass.useless c** ts.

Northbanker

It’s where we were a few years ago Jwl Kroenkes looked like they weren’t interested and were largely absentee landlords Since then they’ve become 100% owners, our stadium debt less relevant, they’ve shown their commitment through funding high value players and they’ve achieved big success in US with the rest of their ‘franchises’ Plus Josh is more of a fixture these days Our club looks more joined together. We have some great players in the squad, a strategy that is largely adhered to and makes sense and an Academy that seems to be producing the goods. Good times ahead with… Read more »

raptora

God bless we didn’t sell to Usmanov. The fuck did they achieve with Everton? Barely staying up.

Positive pete

Nortbanker.Bring in Marina & I’ll feel v.confident. Of that line up.Is she on the list,anyone?

raptora

Sambi starts for Luton vs Fulham in 10 mins.

6 changes by De Zerbi against Manure. At Old Trafford. This should be interesting.

raptora

Welbeck opens the score.

rollen

Ex players always score vs old team lol.
Manure is crap!

raptora

Simon Adingra is the new Bukayo Saka.

rollen

raptors, Auba nearly won that FA cup by himself

Rich
MidwestGun

Go Hammers! Nice one.

Gonsterous

Watching old videos of arsenal sure brings back the memories. Greatest team post the invincible, the 2007 team, Eduardo was fire that season, calm composed and ruthless in front of goal. Cesc just pure silk. Then we had Sanchez and ozil partnership, where they were absolutely lethal. Sure it effected the rest of the team but in attack they dragged us into the top 4. Then the one man team (RVP), where he single handedly made Alex song look world class and tricked barca into buying him. Now saka and martinelli, looking gorgeous. We have been very lucky to see… Read more »

MidwestGun

Hammers riding the luck train so far… Haaland missed two tap ins from 5 feet out. They have cleared about 5 shots off the line. And Moyes playing on the counter with about 10% possession. Working like a charm… even though it’s boring as hell watching them try to play for a corner kick for 45 mins.

Was a pretty counter attack goal though. And watching Pep chew Haaland out like a 4 year old who just ran out into traffic at half time was interesting.

MidwestGun

And that didnt take long… 1-1. 🙁

raptora

Doku will probably bench Grealish.

MidwestGun

Ya.. Doku is about a million times better than Grealish in their system.. But Pep will probably bench Foden and play Doku on the right and Grealish on the left or something.

Dissenter

Brighton certainly have united’s number

MidwestGun

Antonio showing his age.. couple steps too slow.

China1

2-0 Brighton up at Utd My lord ETH is the most embarrassingly basic manager ever lol He’s been in the club over a season now and the extent of their tactics is pass around between defense and keeper, play an aimless long high ball forwards (90% don’t reach a Utd player) and PRAY that one finally land won rashford’s boot, that he can run through 3 defenders and score a worldie That this is all they do after a year of him at the club is so damn cringe worthy LOL You can’t ever in a million years compete for… Read more »

raptora

Middy, yeah. He’s mostly a RW but he’s having a fantastic game on the left. City did well with him.

raptora

China, I see their fans turning on him. Unhappy with the team selection and the way they’re playing.

Dissenter

United fans are going to be patient with ETH

I mean, where else do they go from here?
They’ve gone through so many managers

Markymark

That’s gotta hurt 7 Hag. They’ve been running a PR job on him likes he’s the Second Coming. Who will he blame this time? Maybe another dig at Sancho impacting team cohesion and morale.

China1

Brighton look like the home team

I know they are genuinely a good team but Utd are such an embarrassment. Such cringe worthy, poor tactics and play

Slow motion car crash of a club, I can’t stop watching lol

Markymark

Manure – have got to consider themselves lucky to actually have 6 points this season.

MidwestGun

Yep.. United don’t worry me that much this season.. they got so many dumpster fires to put out.

Think City and Pool are the teams we need to beat to the title.

Luteo Guenreira

Cmon west ham hold on to this point

Dissenter

United’s pressing is shit, Brighton at passing last through them too easily

Dissenter

3-0

United taking a proper beating at home

TR7

De Zerbi is the next special one after Pep.

MidwestGun

Now if we can just get the damn Hammers to score another goal.. would be a banner day and a shit day for the Manchesters.

China1

Ironically that new CF looked decent but ETH brought him off and got booed

LOL and it’s 3. LOVE it

Dissenter

Onana should be saving that
De Gea would have saved that 😀

MidwestGun

Shit Keeping… awww damn it.

Mee

West Ham playing very well. Especially Paqueta.

MidwestGun

Areola whiffed.

Goona

Manure..lol

TR7

How is ETH any better than Ole ? Plays the same basic football that Ole did.

China1

Is it just me who finds the way players cover their mouths when they’re speaking hilarious as tho they’re sharing unimaginable secrets and the opposition manager can even hear them/lip read (and would change his teams entire strategy to exploit it)

MidwestGun

Spuds behind now too. Come on Hammers… help a brother out.

MidwestGun

China I think they are more worried about getting meme’d if they say something obvious. Ahhh fuck off Haaland. Oh well.

Dissenter

I try not to watch city’s games
It’s a form of self injurious behavior

MidwestGun

Diss well it was going well for 45 mins… haha They are pretty much a damn machine.

rollen

Pedro scores anginst Manure ,nice.

rollen

Bit early but looking that there will be no stopping City.

TR7

Ferguson, Fati, Mitoma and Pedro – Brighton have assembled a very good forward line.

Josip Skoblar

United are toast.

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