ARSENAL LOW FEES – 5 YEARS IN THE MAKING

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I’m watching the England game while writing this post. I’ve just seen James Maddison get scissored over with a horrible challenge. I find international football so painful to watch. It’s such a massive risk so early on in the season – Gabriel M went off on 85 last night after an impact injury. Not great.

Gareth Southgate has fully embraced his comfort-blanket stage. He has Jordan Pickford in goal, a man who concedes like a sieve and has never played at a high level. He has Harry McGuire starting, a 31-year-old that was de-captained and hasn’t had a good game in 6 years. Jordan Henderson is still getting game time despite moving to another continent on a retirement contract.

This is a manager out of ideas – and a guy who doesn’t truly believe in high performance. Hopefully the rumors of him exiting after the Euros are true. Need to get us a bit of Pep Guardiola in the mix bringing some of that JdP electricity to international football.

In Arsenal news, Nico Pepe was finally sold, for £2.6m. I’m not sure he’s the worst Arsenal signing of all time, but he’s certainly in the top 3 for disappointment. I just can’t get over how a player can lose 186% of his value. £2.6m fits into £72m about 28 times. This is a disgustingly poor transfer.

Did I speak like that when we did the deal? No way. I thought we’d landed. He was the hottest player in France. The fee was massive, but we needed to do something big.

Little did I know – Lille was up to all sorts of dodgy dealings. A club built to create fees for agents. An exBarca contact there that our guy knew. Rumors that Everton were quoted a much lower price. The whole episode ended up smelling like rotten fish – made all the more painful to stomach because the player didn’t deliver. Napoli signed Oshimen for a massive fee and there are all sorts of problems with that one – but at least they landed a decent player.

Niko felt like the start of a new era, when in fact, it was the start of a horrible run under a disgraceful Football Director who ran the club into the ground, putting agents over club time and time again.

The player wasn’t terrible. He had a lot of output. But he lacked focus and discipline. He was built for counter-attacking football and we didn’t really play that game. Then his confidence went, his output dried up, he tanked at Nice last season, and in the end no one would pony up for a player who couldn’t deliver if the wages were £140k a week.

Trabzonspor have taken him on, I’d not be shocked to hear we were picking up some of his wages, there’s a nominal fee that has been put down… we are finally rid of a weight around our neck.

Still, it’s hard to be mad about anything right now. We kicked out the Football Director. We got Edu on a better track. We hired a world class coach. Now the whole club feels like it’s working towards the right things under a process that bangs.

So the clear-out is basically complete. The only two players left that don’t really hit the level are Mo Elneny and Cedric Soares. Mo will stay around because he’s good for the dressing room and doesn’t pick up much of a salary. We’re also well-equipped in midfield. Cedric might have been exited on a free if we didn’t have so many injuries. But overall, you can give the club a B+ for exiting players, but maybe a D for the fees we landed. Rob Holding for £2m really is poor – he’s worth much more than that.

A lot of this feels like a problem of our own making. Primark will never be able to sell a £1000 trenchcoat – because people associate them with budget clothing. Burberry lost control of their famous print pattern in the 90s and had to build a whole strategy around making it scarce again because the brand was not supposed to be worn by the masses. They went after people peddling fake goods and pulled all their licenses that landed their goods in cheap shops. Sears was a struggling retail brand famous for coupons, a big fancy exec from a tech company came in, tried to upscale the product, and killed the coupon book… big mistake, that wasn’t not what the market wanted, and things went south very fast. Why? Because once people get used to your market positioning, it’s hard to retrain them. We are a discount brand. Arsenal spent a lot of time post-Wenger/Emery giving players away… the market now knows if you wait long enough, you can get a coupon player at the end of the window. We are not in the premium game yet. Liverpool, City, and Chelsea certainly are.

One day…

Ok, short one today, listen to the latest podcast. It’s the premium goods. Pay up, right now, be part of the elite. No coupons here baby. x

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Pierre

Un
I am with you regarding Pepe، unfortunately with Arteta it is more about what you do off the ball than on the ball.

Let’s hope that policy brings us trophies، or even a single trophy.
At present the only trophy that Arteta has won was with a team predominantly made up of those “lazy time wasters” …….Wenger players.

Rich

Pierre You’re either thoroughly disingenuous, a complete slime ball, as dumb as a rock…. Or as I strongly suspect, a combination of all 3. “Rich Cast your mind back to liverpool/Arsenal last season، the score is 2-2 in the dying seconds of the game…” “Martinelli had time and space to pick his pass، saka was completely free in the liverpool half ، what happened next shows the importance of having a player who can play the killer ball with perfect timing and weight of pass… “Martinelli overhit the pass and the golden chance for the winner was gone.Vieira in that… Read more »

Pierre

Rich
Keep digging

Crabregas4

Let’s be honest, in those two scenarios, the passes by Vieira were not even world class, they were pretty standard premier league passes that many players could make and didn’t even show off Vieira’s killer ball qualities.

Un

Pierre
But there are players who offer little impact off the ball and are still pushed ahead of others
Vieira being the main one
Saka can be guilty of it.
Zinchenko too.
We had a game changer off the bench who was desperate to prove himself but lacked confidence
Wenger would have lit him up

Un

Crab

Maybe but it’s the timing of the pass
Martinelli takes 2-3 more touches there and the run Jesus makes us wasted
Vieira takes a touch and pops it in front of him perfectly
He already knows where Jesus is and where he’s going to put it
Martinelli takes a touch and Carrie’s the ball with his head down there and I think the chance goes then
I don’t think Havertz is playing that ball there first time either
Really only Saka and odegaard are doing what vieira did in our squad

Pierre

Crabregas4 “Let’s be honest, in those two scenarios, the passes by Vieira were not even world class, they were pretty standard premier league passes that many players could make and didn’t even show off Vieira’s killer ball qualities.” Vieira made them look easy، he understood what was needed at that moment in the game. The Martinelli misplaced pass to saka v liverpool was a very similar situation ، the ball at his feet on the left with a free runner and he messed up the pass ، proving that even a 150 million pound rated player can find it difficult… Read more »

Pierre

Rich
“If we’d have bought on Vieira under that defensive barrage…. You’d have had your claws out straight away, and labelling it naive, had we lost the game.”

Stop waffling Rich، you are now argueing with yourself as not once have I mentioned bringing Vieira on against liverpool.

Crabregas4

The Martinelli one was a lot harder in my opinion and probably benefited a left footer so they could play pass with their instep, curling into Saka’s run (or an outside of the right foot). Martinelli cocked up the pass but he is probably the worst passer in our forward line, that is arguably his weakest attribute as he excels with playing at a high pace and running on/off the ball. I would even say if Vieira, for his qualities, was on the other side of the pitch and played it with his right foot then he may not have… Read more »

Tarango

For killer passes/crosses in the EPL, there are only a select few who excels at it. KDB, Trent, Bruno and Viera tops that list.

Rich

Pierre You were arguing that Martinelli was making that pass and not Vieira…. I genuinely believe that my Rottweiler puppy has a higher IQ than you, and she’s as daft as they come… She’s incredibly sweet + cute though. You were saying that Vieira makes the 2 assists against Villa + United, and we should be more counter attacking. But you’re too thick to understand why at that stage of the game, those spaces opened to begin with, and why they previously didn’t. Then you argued that Vieira could have played that pass against Liverpool to Saka…. And while I… Read more »

Pierre

Crabregas4
Martinelli has many better attributes than Vieira، it just so happens that Vieira is the player you would want to play such a perfectly timed and weighted pass.

The assist for Eddie v fulham was another inch perfect pass that made it easy for the striker as it was played in such a way that Eddie never had to alter his run.

Pierre

Rich
“Then you argued that Vieira could have played that pass against Liverpool to Saka…. And while I agree with you.There was a clear reason why Vieira wasn’t on the pitch to begin with, at that stage of the game, and at this stage of his development….”

Basically you are agreeing with everything I said so do yourself a favour and stop waffling.

Pierre

Crabregas4
“I would even say if Vieira, for his qualities, was on the other side of the pitch and played it with his right foot then he may not have been so successful.”

He would have played it with the outside of his left foot

Pierre

Un
“But there are players who offer little impact off the ball and are still pushed ahead of others”
.
It’s pointless questioning Arteta’s selection policy، it is what it is ، all the squad are more than decent and on any given day we can beat anyone even with a number of back up players starting.

Un

Crab
Dunno. He seems to prefer the right by all accounts and I’ve seen some amazing little passes from the inside right channel for us and Portugal and Porto
The more game time he gets, the more he will continue to grow and bring his personality and quality into the team. I think he’s got a rosicky style quality to him in how he plays but not with the same forceful nature just yet

Pierre

Odegaard is a much more influential player at present but I would have Vieira on dead ball situations all day long، if Odegaard had Vieira’s dead ball delivery his assists woukd go through the roof ، unfortunately for the amount of corners and free kicks he takes ، 14 assists in 92 starts is a poor return though it’s fair to say that he was excellent in front of goal last season ، let’s hope that continues.

Crabregas4

Pierre,

“He would have played it with the outside of his left foot”

And he would have likely been unsuccessful more times than successful.

He has great attributes and loves to assist/create a chance and his pass for Eddie was testament to that. However if the game is requiring more than what he can offer then he won’t always be on the pitch in those moments.

It is also prudent to mention that the games against untied and Villa, the game was already won.

I am hoping to see him blossom this season though

Crabregas4

Un, “Dunno. He seems to prefer the right by all accounts and I’ve seen some amazing little passes from the inside right channel for us and Portugal and Porto” I do agree but in most of the moments I have seen (assist vs Liverpool comes to mind) he cuts back into his left foot which isn’t leading to the counter attack killer passes we were mentioning. I don’t think anyone is doubting his technical ability and I have been defending him to friends of mine. He has to be involved in more of the 90 minutes when he plays as… Read more »

Markymark

We were outdone by a schoolboy error from kosielny، nothing to do with counter attacking football from atletico.
We pulverised them that day with 28 shots at goal . -Pierre Did you actually attend the match? We were Completely ineffective and caught out on counter attacks .

Markymark

Pierre , we pulverised no one and were mostly ineffective we were taken out by a counter attack
Shooting 28 times and scoring one whilst being mugged by a player who Wenger fucked over is a very good example I’d suggest of end stage Wenger cock ups

Un

Sid
😂
I’m so offended

Nigel Tufnel

Freddie made good points about some positives of Raul. Those get forgotten among the years of moaning about Pepe. My biggest regret ..by far, is the Sven situation… I wanted him to stay from previous admiration of his work in Germany, and we should all be sorry that when he left he was tying up a cheap deal for Bellingham, which was dropped or lost in transition, for whatever reason. He was working his magic as usual. Now though, having an entire organization from the owners down to the coaches in the academy, that seem to finally be in sync,… Read more »

Nigel Tufnel

Englandsbest, It’s pretty obvious about Tierney. Everyone complains that we loaned him out, but ignores the obvious facts that we know. He’s at best, our second choice LB in our current system, which is here to stay. Often he’s actually 3rd choice depending on fitness of the rest of the defenders. We all know that he’s a fierce competitor and can’t stand playing just 10 minutes at ends of matches… Obviously he pushed hard for a move to play football. I’m sorry it couldn’t be in England, and I wish him all the best. Just because he didn’t come out… Read more »

Nigel Tufnel

Un — Rich, You’re letting the Ødegaard detractor Pierre suck you into debates about Vieira (who I also think will be a great player)… His only objective is to moderately shit on his hated player Ødegaard and draw you into it. Now he’ll say that’s not true, and that he always says Ødegaard is a tidy little player and good to have around. Basically he’s serviceable in his estimation ….. Player of the season last year, runner up to Saka the year previously, and Balon dor nominee, goal scoring record for midfielders… …. but definitely not at the level of… Read more »

AKINZO

Am really worried we’ve not been seeing a lot of ESR. Hopefully, it’s because he is being prepared for greater impact. He’s one player I’d feel dreadful we lose. Arteta has been getting better with his decision making but there are still many moments you’d feel awful with some decisions. We have managed to build a very convincing squad over time but his tendency to put spanners in the works is still glaring. Our aim is to play catch up with City, so, with the season underway, we should really be at our best which we are not at the… Read more »

Nigel Tufnel

Bob I was going to point out that idiotic hateful comment by Pierre about Ødegaard, but you beat me to it.

It seems personal , because how much dislike does a gooner have to hold for our Captain who has done nothing but earn every award, recognition, premier league record, and giant new contract…

Pierre is out of touch with everyone who watches football, neutral fan or gooner.

Many of his other observations about our players and defense of them are really good…. so therefore it must be personal. Sad really.

Nigel Tufnel

But Pierre is right about Vieira… he shows so many signs of being a special player. The things he lacks in physicality are common and nothing in comparison to the instincts and touch he has that can NEVER be taught to a young player. The trick will be to work him into more playing time and opportunities while maintaining a title challenge. In a way it’s bad for him to be playing behind one of the world’s best in Ødegaard…. but for us its a blessing to have them both. Either way, the future looks bright for Arsenal with talents… Read more »

AKINZO

Why would Pierre’s take on a player bother anyone so much? The optics is that Odegaard is one of our best and merits being the skipper. He’s certainly trolling you lots and it’s ridiculous how some fall for that. That said, he’s right about Vierra’s technical acumen too. That doesn’t however translate to him being better than the skipper at the moment. No matter anyone’s take on any player at the moment we want all our players to play at an dizzying level. The more we get closer to that, the better our trajectory collectively in the quest to catch… Read more »

TheLegendaryDB106

I just saw an advert for Fly Emirates, during the half time of South Africa vs Scotland, that included a scene with Saka’s trademark goal celebration with Benny Blanco hugging him from behind. It’s good to see The Arsenal getting some TV airing in some way on the prime time TV nowadays. I was in France for my holidays and I saw an Arsenal shirt here and there (3 in total). So us doing well looks like there is a positive commercial impact for us to reap. If this is what getting second can get us, I am looking forward… Read more »

Nigel Tufnel

Pierre you don’t take away managers trophies or discount them for depending on players they inherited.

If that was the case…. Wenger…..

Jamie

Pierre lives rent-free in Nigel’s head.

Adams

And nigel lives rent free in your head.

Jamie

And I live rent-free in your head.

4D chess move, checkmate.

FB

Any rugby fans here during the awful Interlul

Wales Fiji in a few minutes

rollen

Kiwifruit just scored..

rollen

Lol Kiwior, var check, and it’s offside.

rollen

Vieira had 2 good cameos after 2 years of nothing and he is better than Odegard sudenly lol.

Pierre

I’m not sure that anything I have said about Odegaard is wrong.

He is an asset to Arsenal football club
He was excellent in front of goal last season
It did take 18 months for him to really shine.
14 assists in 92 starts is disappointing.
Odegaard is a much more influential player than Vieira at present.
His dead ball delivery is nothing special.

Am I wrong.

Pierre

Rollen
“Vieira had 2 good cameos after 2 years of nothing and he is better than Odegard sudenly lol.”

This is what happens when you read Nigel and Rich’s comments، I think you’ll find that no one thinks Vieira is a better player than Odegaard at present.

Nigel Tufnel

Looks like Antony is in real trouble… What a job to work publicity for United. It’s been a rotten culture there for years and the problem is that you can’t buy your way out of that type is situation. They’ve spent loads under Hag and everyone before him except Moyes. Throwing money at the problem only gets the team more spoiled mercenaries who don’t care about the club or the sport enough. Add to it poor choices by Hag trying to move too quickly. They could have done better than Cassemiro for the clubs long term future…. Antony and Lisandro… Read more »

Un

I love rent free in Marko’s head 5D shut it Jamie I can say 5D if I want to

Un

International breaks are full as Dublin (sorry eagle)

Un

Dull* auto

Josip Skoblar

Tomiyasu was an absolute beast against Germany yesterday. World-class performance. Unbelievable.

Rich

“I’m not sure that anything I have said about Odegaard is wrong.” Everything you’ve said about Ødegaard has been horribly wrong, but Ozil completely frazzled what was left of your brain, which granted wasn’t very much to begin with. I understand that you lack the cognitive ability to hold a single coherent thought beyond 30 seconds….. But I’m sure plenty will remember your never ending barrage of Ødegaard hit pieces, and your Martinelli ones. You assured us Ødegaard couldn’t press, and just ran around aimless pointing….. When he won the ball back in the final third more than any other… Read more »

Papageorgeo

We need to be very careful throwing stones at United.

We could / may still have a very similar situation but due to the laws in England it is all taking place privately. Our player has actually been arrested according to the reports, Antony hasn’t ….

Un

Yeah Pierre
You kinda lost your touch with Odegaard and Ozil
Got to agree with rich on this one

Nigel Tufnel

Pierre keep it up so far your hatred of Ødegaard has got him :

PFA team of the year.

Arsenal player of the season.

The premier league midfielder non penalty goal record.

Nomination for Balon dor.

Rich,
I’ve seen all those videos… anybody who watches Arsenal every week should not need statistics to know our Captain is an incredible creator.
Looking forward to that nice big contract that will lock him down at Arsenal for all his prime years.

Dissenter

Pierre fighting the good fight as usual.
To think now his intelligence is being weighted against Rich’s Rottweiler puppy…and he’s the hateful one?

Rich

Diss

Yeah that was cruel, but I’m sure my puppy will forgive me, she’s a sweetheart.

WengerEagle

Medvedev has softness to him, never trust him in pressure moments.

Djokovic to add no. 24 now inevitable. Still too good and I’d be surprised if he doesn’t finish with close to 30 slams.

Goobergooner

Rich has a rottweiler? What are you afraid of? Pierre coming around after the shit talk? Haha

Goobergooner

I just jest there Rich, anyone who owns one over here is a massive Bogan hiding behind their dog or drug dealer

China1

Pierre was NEVER going to rate the player who effectively replaced Ozil. That Ozil was on a miserable decline into complete irrelevance by his last 2 years with us and that Ode has developed into one of the best attacking midfielders in the world must cut very deep

It’s personal, that much is obvious lol

Goobergooner

I love how much Pierre can get under the skin on here. Ozil ended his time at Arsenal as a bit of a bum, but he started off electric. All we needed in that side was a proper DM and/or another striker to take over from girooooo when he went missing (and my oh my could he miss). Everyone has their favourites and if it gives Pierre a bit of happiness to defend a player, who even cares. He’s a true blue fair dinkum gooner like the rest of us. And truth be told Rich and Pierre are both great… Read more »

Pierre

China
“Pierre was NEVER going to rate the player who effectively replaced Ozil
It’s personal, that much is obvious lol”

Actually I rate smith rowe very highly as he replaced Ozil، so what you are saying is total nonsense.

Smith Rowe came in for Ozil and I couldn’t have been happier that we had found a CAM who took to ozil’s role like a duck to water..

Markymark

Ozil lives rent free in Pierre’s head

FB

Goober

Haven’t heard the expression Bogan in years.

A while ago, a friend was visiting from Down Under and used the term. We really don’t have a one-fits-all term like that here. Love it 🙂

Goobergooner

FB haha yeah it’s like redneck in America pretty much, I definitely haven’t heard of similar from the UK.

Also fair play sid I’d agree with that statement

Goobergooner

My hope is that ESR is just building strength and showing he has fully recovered and is making headway behind the scenes to get back up to scratch physically for Artetaball.

I’m sure tets hasn’t forgotten ESR saving his bacon.

WengerEagle

Very odd that nobody on here has mentioned the US Open Final considering plenty are tennis fans.

Everyone sick of Djokovic it seems, lol.

GoonerDave

Rich,
Stick to your analysis of the players, manager and tactics. People with IQs higher than dogs fully understand the ad hominem fallacy.

TR7

Only Alcarez could have beaten Djoker. Medvedev hit his peak in the SF, expected him to drop off in the final.

AFC Forever

Djokovic is an amazing athlete dedicated to his sport. Like Federer was. To win in such difficult conditions against much younger players is testament to that.

Sadly the competition is much weaker now. Gone are the days when we had Djokovic, Federer and Nadal going toe to toe in long matches. Who from the next group will get near the standards those guys set?

Tom

Not only is Djokovic a great athlete but also an amazing human being with such strong moral fiber.
His unequivocal stance on the war in Ukraine ( ”doesn’t support it” ) is a picture of bravery.

He’s also against cancer, global warming, and shark attacks.

FB

WengerEagle

US Open. Guess the time difference was a problem for many.

Djokovic is, and has been, a quite remarkable player and athlete.

Not a charismatic figure, but deserves so much respect, especially for forfeiting the chance for further titles in favour of his principles.

China1

Pierre ESR is homegrown which is by default a massive boost in your judgment (see Eddie)

If ESR was signed externally and Ode had done the same you’d have been full of concerns

Tom

“Rich has a rottweiler? What are you afraid of? ……”

Poor people coming around for a handout.

China1

LOL tom

AFC Forever

FB “Especially for forfeiting the chance for further titles in favour of his principles.” Great comment. Sadly we live in an age where fake virtue signalling dominates almost every conversation. Neville, Lineker, Hamilton and Henderson et al, all exposed for their dishonesty in their attempts to propel themselves onto the moral high ground. The “Look at me I care more than you’ act of moral insincerity. People are starting to get a bit sick and tired of these celeb-rats playing to the like minded on social media – they are anything but the kind hearted people they pretend to be.… Read more »

Goobergooner

Tom haha!

Anyone feel like elaborating on what Djokovic did to “stay true to his principles”? I’m quite intrigued and haven’t followed him outside of the matches he plays. Thanks in advance

Howard

The Football Director who recruited Pepe also brought in Edu. Edu, Sanhelli and super agents friends namely, Mendes and Joorabchan were pictured holidaying together on a Yacht. Edu has failed to sell players at fair fees, often giving players away at the cost of Arsenal because he doesn’t know much of the European marker.. Sanhelli is a friend of Edu, Kia and Mendes as well. It smells. You can’t take out Edu in this triangle of player dealings. We bought Fabio for 35m from Mendes and got injured Cedris Soares from Kia who at 29 for 4yrs contract at 100k… Read more »

AFC Forever

GooberGooner “”Anyone care to elaborate what Djkavic did to stay true to his principles?” One of Djokavic’s principles was his refusal to be vaccinated. His long held view was that vaccination should be an individual’s choice. He received huge abuse from the ‘kind’ people who wanted to have him cancelled and worse. He complained about the media attacks and stuck by his guns that the vaccination does not prevent anyone spreading the virus, just contracting it. Despite the provocation he stuck by his principles to the extent that he missed competing in tournaments he probably would have won, like the… Read more »

Matt B

Raptora: If you’re reading, suggest you read Arseblog’s piece today about Tomi — I’ve rated him highly as have others on here but I know you’ve had your doubts, largely due to his injuries.

jwl

Edu finally able to get us some Saudi £££.

Fab Romano –

Qatari side Al Bidda SC are set to unveil Tim Akinola as new signing from Arsenal on permanent deal

Akinola has already signed three year contract at Al Bidda, Arsenal gave the green light earlier this week.

Jamie

Djok didn’t ‘stay true to his principles’. He gave it the big chat about being prepared to skip major tournaments with his health being more important than his career, because ‘his body, his choice’ while simultaneously trying to apply for vaccine exemptions to those same tournaments. He’s probably the only top 100 player on the men’s circuit who isn’t vaccinated. He’s also a complete moron: “I’ve seen people and I know some people that, through that energetical [sic] transformation, through the power of prayer, through the power of gratitude, they manage to turn the most toxic food or the most… Read more »

FB

Probably like Djokovic even more now 🙂

Using perfect logic on imperfect information will lead you very astray. Question what you think you know!

FB

‘He’s probably the only top 100 player on the men’s circuit who isn’t vaccinated’

No idea about the point of that comment, although it sounds like logic from The Nuremberg Trials, and that all time great one liner ‘I was only following orders’, you remember, about that nice socialist Mr Hitler 🙂

Bit heavy perhaps, but a bit of fun eh

Tom

Cleansing polluted water with your mind….awesome, that’s dysentery problem solved then.

Probably from the same life coaching manual as “sawdust is full of nutrients “ by Kim Jong Un who, incidentally is meeting Putin in this weeks the world’s strongest leaders summit.

Big week for Sid no doubt……he’s probably shopping for a commemorative t-shirt as we speak.

AFC Forever

FB / Tom

You both made me smile, it has been a challenging Monday.

FB

AFC

Heat stroke is my excuse 🙂

We urgently need some Breaking News

TR7

If Nadal had the fitness of Djokovic he would have been untouchable, possibly could have won close to 30 GS.

Nigel Tufnel

AFCforever,
Hope the week gets better for you as we get closer to a gunner win on Sunday.

Matt B,
Tomiyasu seems to have had an excellent performance for Japan. Great versatile player. Word is Arteta has asked to extend him along with other important assets that we’re locking down.
He was really trying to emulate Zinchenko when he came on against United. I’m sure the manager loves that.

Northbanker

Didn’t get PSV tickets in silver ballot – gutted. Tried looking at Ticket Exchange and there were loads listed on there- except each time you clicked on one it didn’t exist. Every.Single.One!

Arsenal creating mirages in their digital deserts

Luteo Guenreira

This is why Eagle. Any talk of Djokovic will inevitably lead to chatter about his stance on vaccinations, and when someone intelligent comes and tries to say something about science and how silly it is to believe water can transform and heal you if you believe in it really, really hard, the responsive spin and outrage starts. Suddenly it’s about “principles and “staying true to yourself,” it’s about how people are pawns and conspiracy and how can you trust something developed in a just few short months blah blah You know what, I’ll go so far as to acquiesce that… Read more »

WengerEagle

TR7

Nadal would have 7-8 more Slams if he hadn’t been injured for the 8 odd tournaments he missed in his prime years? That’s a hell of a bold statement.

And fitness/consistency is a part of greatness, it’s why Neymar will never be held in as high esteem as his talent and ability deserved which would comfortably be the 3rd best player of the 2010s player generation.

I love Rafa and he’ll probably always be my favorite player to have watched but it’s safe to say that he’s been surpassed by Djokovic now.

WengerEagle

Luteo I am with you on much of the chatter around Djokovic and yeah, he’s said some things over the years that frankly sound nuts. You have to remember that he comes from a poor Balkans background though and just have a listen to some of the Croatian NT footballers (Lovren, Rakitic, Brozovic, etc) stances on political issues if you want your ears to bleed. They come from a completely different culture so their world-view is never going to align with somebody who was raised their entire life in a prosperous Western society. Have you ever listened to Le Tissier’s… Read more »

jwl

Lots of people believe if you cut off a ten year olds todger he becomes a girl, so it’s not only poor Balkans people with crazy ideas.

Luteo Guenreira

Djokovic’s prime has been absurdly long. Federer will always be the best for me just because of how beautifully he played the game, but he won 14 of his 20 majors between 2004-2010. Nadal consistently won majors throughout because of his French dominance, but compared to Djoker or Federer I’d have to say he didn’t quite have those periods of sustained dominance where he won 2-3 majors every year for a few years like they did, injuries and health being an obvious factor for Rafa. Djokovic’s early prime he was able to take a few majors even with Nadal and… Read more »

WengerEagle

Lol Jwl.

I wasn’t having a pop at people from the Balkans but it’s fair to say that their culture and belief system would be very different from what would be typical in the UK or US.

Nearly every Brazilian footballer from a poor background is a staunch supporter of Bolsonaro in Brazil who makes Trump look like a boy scout.

It’s also possible that elite athletes are just morons…

WengerEagle

Luteo Federer will always be the slickest player to ever pick up a racket and the most naturally gifted. It used to blow my mind how while Rafa was onto his 5th or 6th shirt -change of the match that Federer literally wouldn’t have as much as a sole bead of sweat on his face. He made tennis look effortless and his style was easily the most aesthetically pleasing, just brutal attacking tennis with ridiculous winners being hit from all over. Rafa will always be my favourite player for his guts and fortitude. I never felt that he was mentally… Read more »

jwl

I know, Weagle. Just reading many comments about how crazy Djokovic is when I respect his decision to not be used as guinea pig with experimental medicine.

Graham62

Know what ND does to achieve these incredible heights and you wouldn’t see him as the GOAT.

Just saying.

jwl

“Declan Rice has capped off a fine start to his Arsenal career by being deemed by our supporters as our Player of the Month for August.” As well as winning the Community Shield in his first game in our colours, Declan went on to win back possession 17 times in the next three games, as well as making nine tackles and four interceptions to break up play. He was statistically our best defender against Fulham, but he has also proved to be just as effective at the other end of the field. He made 29 final third entries in the… Read more »

Northbanker

Success in Ticket Exchange – but had to buy 2 club level tickets – £186 each. Desperate to see this first ECL game. Will accept my fate after that with the ballot and cheaper exchange seats only.

Just remembering the days when I paid £3 to get into the old North Bank. Sigh!

WengerEagle

Steroids?

I’d have similar suspicions about a lot of elite athletes. Naive to think they’re not rampant imo.

Jamie

“I respect his decision to not be used as guinea pig with experimental medicine.”

This is the problem right here. Which covid vaccine was ‘experimental’? Come with facts.

Logie Bear

Congrats on the tix NB. I’ve still had no luck with the ballot. I guess at least it’s slightly better than hanging on line for an hour last season, only to be told the tix are all sold out in 8 minutes !

Ticket Exchange is just a lottery.
Enjoy the game, I think I’ll be looking into a TNT subscription…!

jwl

More like give some facts that it wasn’t experimental, Jamie. Tell us exactly how they know long term effects of medicine cooked up in lab three yrs ago and why govts were forced to sign agreements that they not allowed to sue if anything goes wrong.