I’m in Kansas City today without my laptop, so I’m penning this on my phone. Excuse the typos. I mean, excuse the increase in typos.
So, bad news: Thomas Partey has done his groin in. He’s out indefinitely. Likely the standard 8 to 12 weeks it always is with him. Without knowing the circumstances – it does feel like we’ve been sloppy here. Partey is injury-prone, he’s playing in a new position that asks more of him, now he’s broken. Not great to lose someone of that importance in training.
Still, we have to accept that injuries are part of football and things aren’t always going to be perfect. People trying to work out if we had time to make a move in the transfer window need a reality check. We aren’t untethered from reality, we don’t have unlimited funds, the solution to every problem can’t be to buy.
It also amazes me that people who make these complaints get so much traction. It isn’t insightful to suggest spending £50m every time someone breaks. That’s an easy suggestion. Arteta has to work with what he has and has to find a way with the players he’s invested in. Remember, when people said we needed to sign a striker to replace Jesus in Jan and we ended up scoring more goals with Eddie in the side? Probably not. No will ever celebrate the people that ask for a bit of calm during a non-crisis event.
The catastrophizing has been next level considering we have 7 points from 9. It’s even worse when you consider the options we still have for United. We have the best back 5 from last season available, the three-man midfield Arteta has chosen to move the club forward, and a red-hot choice of forwards.
Second-guessing how Arteta is evolving the team seems like a bad idea considering the pedigree he’s shown. He got us here when everyone said he was a rookie, so how can there be so little faith this season? I don’t mean this as ‘no one should criticise’ but if you want to be a critic, come with a better idea than ‘KEEP THINGS THE SAME’ after we tanked a league title chase for being too one dimensional.
We had no plan b last season. We do now (or at least a plan for a plan b). The future vision of not being wedded to a single style is a really big idea. It will take time to build out an elite cognitive style of fluid football, but when it lands, it’ll be devastating to play against.
10 years ago we had a manager who refused to innovate.
5 years ago we hired a manager who had ideas but no guts to carry them through.
Now we have a next-gen manager who has us as 4th faves for the CL and people are saying his job should be on the line because… we drew against Fulham and only spent the second-highest amount of net spend.
How has the fan base gone from banter years poverty to thinking they are too good for a draw? How are we in a space where Arteta has to beg fans to give Havertz time after 3 games?
We need a slap back to reality.
Ousting City at the top requires investment in ideas and a bit of pain. Doing the same as last year is how Wenger would operate every time he scrapped into the top 4. How did that work out? We should always be evolving.
United is a chance to silence the whiners.
We need to cut out those diagonal long balls
We need to terrorise their one-paced midfield
We need to rattle their shaky defence
Havertz late runs into the box to rattle Martinez, yes please.
Eddie hustling out chances, yes please
Arsenal turning on the style with incisive football and making EtH look avg, yes please.
Home crowd needs to get back to the idea that made this team what it is: Players do better when they are loved. We can’t become Groan FC again. The players need to bring some explosiveness to avoid that happening, and I’m confident they will.
Right. That’s me done. Hope this post read well!
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Guns of Hackney must be sone lonely teenager with no friends. It must be a sad existence you have. Get a life
Agree ES, I understand what Arteta is doing with Havertz but I think he should gain confidence as a sub. Jesus is a level above Eddie, who has been playing really well.
Guns may be feeling foolish today but probably not. He understands the superficiality of a blog stream and plays on it. His ‘shock jock ‘ comments are meant to rile and thats what he’s after. He doesn’t take himself too seriously, nor should anybody else!
Correct Emirates. As others & myself have pointed out.Give the guy a break & ease him into games.It’s not fair throwing him in at the deep end.As for Saka,it’s clear he need a break or earlier subbing for him .Such as Nelson who in his cameos looks sharp & offers an alternative.
Nigel is right. Havertz just isn’t on the same wavelength as his teammates at the moment. At least 3 times he made runs into the same space that other players were moving towards. This will improve over time and I can understand why Mikel wasn’t quite ready to drop him. However, Vieira’s excellent form is almost forcing Mikel’s hand.
However, against a big and physical (if terrible) Everton side away, don’t expect Arteta to drop Havertz. This might actually be a perfect game for him to step up.
Reasons to be cheerful,one,two,three…………sex & drugs & Arsenal🥳
As Ian Drury might say…….
I think it’s less about Havertz (even though he’s playing poorly) but more about these atrocious defensive formations that he’s starting games with that just are not working. Like I said earlier the football is worse we’re scoring less goals and conceding more.
As for Guns of Hackney, has anyone figured out when he shifted from being a slightly negative but mostly sane poster to a master troll? It’s been quite some transformation.
@Belfast Gooner
My sentiments EXACTLY! I’m also reeeeaally rooting for Havertz to come good, and I think he will with Arteta, who clearly sees something in him. He needs time – he doesn’t need the crowd moaning every time he makes a duff pass.
But, I do hope Arteta is not blinded by whatever he sees in him either. We have other players starved on minutes, who we will definitely need later in the season. These guys need to be kept sharp too… I’m thinking Reiss Nelson, ESR, Trossard etc.
Yes we will miss Partey, but not as much as we might think as long as Rice stays fit. And his injury record suggests he is very resilient. Zincehnko could easily be played as a midfielder too – he spends 80% of the game doing that anyway.
Arteta has lots of options – I hope he uses them wisely.
Marko
True but even when we’re playing well below our best (which has been all four games, to be fair), it’s nice knowing we only had one starting player over the age of 25 and that’s the 26 year old Zinchenko. We also started 5 English players so all in all, we’re getting good value for money as Arsenal fans.
Well,well,well.Didn’t take the whinger too long to come out & start bemoaning their luck.F** ng can’t stand ETH.Looks for an excuse in everything.Miserable b’ stard.
Saka is clearly not on top form at the moment, but I doubt that Artets will make changes in that
department. Saka still looks very dangerous when he plays.
What you on about his subs were perfect
I bet they are, albeit what I wrote isn’t about today’s game, you will understand later
Team is really maturing. Few changes in the team yet we’ve 10 points from 12. People crying about Havertz etc need to wise up. Same gobshites reckoned odegaard was crap too. No clue
That’s the type of win we needed before the internationals, we were the better team, but with the game still in the balance.
After Havertz + Saka’s misses… Then our penalty being inexplicably overturned, I could see that Garnacho goal coming a mile away….
Thankfully it was rightly chalked out…. If anyone gets a chance, there’s some footage doing the round of Gabriel dropping back in… Really clever movement… Unbelievable quick thinking.
Rice should never have had that much space at the far post, but a big moment from a monster player….
Jesus looked like he was running through quicksand, but his turn and finish were exquisite…. But he’s certainly more of a short combinations players, than someone who can attack space from deep.
2 points dropped at home to Fulham, but 10/12 is a decent start, and also beating City at Wembley.
We haven’t won at Goodson in our last 5 visits since 2017, losing 4 and drawing 1, but losing our last 3 straight.
Arteta needs to put that hoodoo to bed.
Delighted with the win – just waiting for the celebration police to have their say now?!!
Loving to hear the moaning ETH on MOTD 2!
Jesus can attack space from deep, he was very effective out wide for City before and he has a very good turn of pace.
To me he still doesn’t look near 100% physically and the break had come at a good time for him.
Here’s the footage of Big Gabby dropping back in:
https://x.com/dailyafc/status/1698442667804270991?s=61
By ETHs reckoning Manure should have win 0-2! What a c** t.Seriously.
Wenger Eagle,
If you and I noticed Reiss quality in those few minutes, I hope the coaching staff does also. Saka and Martinelli need to come off once in a while!
Reiss takes on defenders differently, a combination of pace and strength. Very 2 footed.
He used to be such a skinny adolescent, but with skills always.
Fucking manure played the pensioners Maguire and Evans at the end..it would have been a scandal if we didn’t win..
We did though,
but a performance and a set up like this is not getting us anywhere.
Partey along the magnificent Rice and odegaard has to be our main start up midfield
the rest of forwards and CAMs can fight out the front 3 positions and come on as subs
Coyg still on cloud 9 tomorrow will be a fun day at work in a meeting with 2 plastic mancs first thing
Suck it anthony Taylor! Sack of shit!
Thierry:
“The assist from Viera to Jesus was sublime af”
Yeah he’s not getting much talk, but the assist last week was inch perfect too. Reminds me of the long one he put through for Martinelli last year where he cheered right after he let the ball go.
Martinelli celebrated before he put it in too?
Remember how I have described him from the first game with us…
Magical left foot. Why?
Because his goals and assists are not typical, most of them are very special to beautiful.
Even if he gets out muscled at times, he impacts games with goals and assists. That’s much more important.
If he were taking free kicks for us, we’d have another weapon.
G,
Nah, his subs need to come much earlier.. but they were good subs, great subs last week also… especially when Vieira can come on and create goals from pens, assists, etc.
Jesus showed what we lack in his cameo. A CF that drops deep to collect, turn, link, dribble, and create with consummate ease. Then goes and sits a defender down and slots past Banana in goal to show his appetite for goals is there.
Guy is a level above the rest, and when he’s 100% again the likes of Saka, Martinelli, Odegaard, and Havertz will all reap the benefits.
Good impact from Nelson when he came on today too, Vieira was also positive again but many completely forgetting he was very good in moments last season too. His issue is being a player for 90 minutes in all aspects. That’s his acid test when the games start coming every few and he’s getting starts. Not part of my best XI until then.
Careful contetat viera is the new yardstick to beat havertz with untill he isn’t. Remember how they were all saying how skinny he was and he couldn’t cut it wonder how much he put on to have such 360 but that’s the reactionary bullshit you get from clueless funks who just spew shit cuz they can and call it support
Bob
“Jesús was serious quality when he came on. Pierre, if you didn’t see that you know nothing about football. ”
He did some nice work on the right flank during his 25 mins on the pitch…..only completed 6 passes but was a menace with his tight control and ability to keep the ball under pressure، plus his movement made space for his team mates، fresh legs will always give the team a lift.
It’s always baffled me why Arteta is so reluctant to use him on the wing as it is his best position as he has very quick feet ، a nice drop of the shoulder and is good at protecting the ball..
That’s not to say he is not a quality striker ، I personally think there is little difference in output between jesus and Eddie but it is difficult to compare them as they have a different qualities، what we saw today was the quality in Eddie’s link play and the quality in jesus dribbling ability on the flanks.، Eddie didn’t have any chances today but jesus tucked his one chance away with a nice piece of deception.
Arteta will bring Jesus back into the side of that I have no doubt، let’s hope he in not brought back prematuraly like last season when our performances dipped when he came back from injury before he was 100% fit.
Big shout-out to Fabio. He has looked great so far, including the pre-season as well.
Fabio was skinny and has bulked up in the right places.
It’s obvious he’s worked hard in the gym and looks more ready for the physicality
Rich,
I’m surprised more people here aren’t talking about big Gabs jump back creating the offside. It’s brilliant, and no hyperbole… if he didn’t jump as hard as he did, we had lost the game.
On another subject, I’m the biggest Trossard fan here, but he’s not a professional midfielder. He can do it as an attacking sub for the end of a game we’re chasing, but that’s it.
He’s a great forward, and needs more minutes there like Reiss does.
As meek as Havertz has been around the box, he’s a true midfielder, so we have to be concerned a bit with balance if Vieira or ESR start at left 8.
I like the hustle Emile has shown in preseason, so maybe he can do it, it’s just a question of positioning and reaction.
Sancho having a go at Ten Hag. You love to see it, the turmoil in that trash club leaking out.
I think it may be beneficial to the team and Kai to play him as a CF and shift Jesus to right. Don’t play him at 8 and cause team a problem. That way we can rotate Eddie, Kai, Jesus in CF and occasionally from the right giving Saka a rest.
Kais pressing and off the ball work along with height would give our attack a new dimension. That way we can utilise him effectively without the issue we see now at 8. Trying out such things is way better than changing the defence which looks quite leaky as of now.
Something I’ve been saying here since last season. Overall this team lacks pace.
You saw today, Jesus is not fast enough to outrun defenders. It has nothing to do with his injury.
Saka can’t even beat a man to the byline, let alone outrun anyone on long balls.
For Example, Havertz is probably our second paciest attacker after Martinelli, Nelson, I’m not sure about. That’s not good. This is why I’m so adamant to get Martinelli and Saka subbed more early.
We know Sakas value, but Gabby is vital as the guy to fly on a counter.
We need to protect their fitness.
For example I noted a fantastic counter opportunity we had yesterday around the 70th minute.
It went nowhere, because Martinelli was gassed, as was everyone else running forward. This is why I’m always going on about earlier subs.
Defiantly agree on the pace or lack of it. I think it’s part of the reason we went so hard at Mudrkyk,
https://twitter.com/OptaAnalyst/status/1698398535706607956?t=D8Kz-gJwQ4hzFkXorIvQ-A&s=19
Declan Rice carries and passes.
I remember genius Marko telling me his ability to carry the ball wasn’t important back in July.
Whenever he does it, defenses get pulled out of shape and have to scramble, creating spaces for all our attackers.
In the Caicedo comparisons i posted,, I noted passing % over 15 and 25 yards too.
You’ll never get that from Caicedo (Coquelin part deux).
Saka really needs to use his right leg more. He needs rest as well. He is becoming a bit predictable and needs to mix his right leg a bit.
Some players were great yesterday especially ode. Good to see him rally the team and the fans. He was the one hunting the ball down and trying to make things happen.
Saka needs a bit of rest. I’m sure he’ll play for England too so I think he should start on the bench in the next game.
I feel the bench is a great motivator for players. Look at Jesus, he came on and tried to make a difference when normally he’s so meh when he starts.
“ July 2023
Arsenal’s head of medical services Gary O’Driscoll is set to join Manchester United.
September 2023
Varane – Injured
Lindelof – Injured
Martinez – Injured
Shaw – Injured
Malacia – Injured
Mount – Injured
Mainoo – Injured
Amad – Injured
What is this guy doing?”
Saw this on a manure’s fan twitter. Looks like we’ve sent out a double agent.
The cons
We are still making hard work of clearly inferior opposition
Saka off form
Havertz miles off
Lack of urgency at times yesterday was concerning
The pros
Fantastic result
Rice looking like a 100m player whilst his peers in the league flounder
No injuries
Vieira good again
Amazing Jesus goal
Fuck Utd
Eth crying like a bitch
Fuck Utd
Sancho situation in public
Utd are trash and can’t compete for the title with their lack of quality and poor tactics (time wasting from min 1 was honestly shameful for a club of their stature. Never seen them ever look so pathetic before)
Although Fulham was 2 dropped points, 10 from 12 is solid and we will take that going into the internationals
Fuck Utd
Fuck eth
Fuck Utd
China and f utd once more the manager crying was the icing on the cake
Just watched the 3rd goal again. It was Eddie who stole the ball from Manure and then passed to Viera. Viera’s pass to Gabriel Jesus was perfect!
Have to say, men of the match for me yesterday were rice and big Gabby. Both were absolutely incredible. Rice is a physical monster but his reading of the game and technical quality is what stands him above the likes of Caicedo. Nobody saying we overpaid now and for the worse player. You know who you are you footballing amoebas
Welcome return to big Gabby yesterday. I think that’s his best big game for arsenal. He is always a capable and willing physical defender but yesterday he lead and his reading of the play was very intelligent. Something that was lacking quite often previously, especially in big games. The way he ran out to rashford in second half after Saliba was caught upfield was just 11/10 defending and if he continues this form then he will be arsenal player of the year. He was that good. Handled Hoijland too who looks like he’s gonna give defenders nightmares. What’s fucking lump that lad is.
Anyway
If that’s how high he can set the bar then I really hope he cuts out the errors and leads like he did yesterday
Hugely impressed by that return to the team from big Gabby.
Kenya
Eddie was subbed of for Jesus 😂
That was Saka
Only issue I see currently is that having got rid of Tierney and Holding, we will play Saliba and Zinchenko into the ground and we have zero cover. Not even bad cover.
I fleetingly watched the game as I was in a meeting. But I saw the goals an it was very hard to contain my emotions whenever we scored. So I can’t comment on player performances and I will most probably not rewatch it in full again.
I also saw the contentious plays. The referee yesterday had balls of steel. The calls were 100 percent correct. No penalty on Haverts (AWB made an initial tackle and clearly pulled his leg, there was contact then but Haverts sort it) offside on Garnacho (slightest margin but correct call. Without VAR it’s a goal all year long). He wasn’t called to check the Gabby ‘push’ on the pretend Haaland. If he did, maybe he would have given it as a penalty so lucky us.
Great win by the guys yesterday. Thoroughly enjoyable. Gutted by Partey injury but we still have Rice and Jogi so we should be good. Defence a concern. Hope an Academy boy is ready to step in once needed. CoYG!
Un
KenyaEddie was subbed of for Jesus 😂
That was Saka
No it wasn’t – it was Nelson.
KenyangunnerSeptember 4, 2023 06:49:28
Just watched the 3rd goal again. It was Eddie who stole the ball from Manure and then passed to Viera. Viera’s pass to Gabriel Jesus was perfect
Bro that was saka Eddie was on the bench lol
Viera has been given assists. Like I discussed some days ago, that quality has never been in doubt. He’s had it from day 1. However I still think Vieria is not ready to play 90 mins for us and maybe will never be mostly because of physicality issues. Once he doesn’t have a chance to shot or pass, he’s doing nothing else. I’m happy for his form but when we are chasing the game and throwing the kitchen sink and every where is chaotic, that’s not the best time to judge any player. I don’t have much hope for him
Vieira is very creative we were all worried about him last season I would hear a lot of grumbling on the terraces. Fair play to the lad he has put on a bit of muscle and his cameos are a sight to behold. After the spurs game he deserves a start.
There’s a lot of people on here who are going to look like complete dicks if and when Havertz comes good. His main issue appears to be confidence, and we as the fan base are not helping that. I guess he will have to dig in and move through the negativity. He may not succeed, but I sincerely hope he does.
I would give him one more start against Everton a) becaus of his physical profile and b) because I want to see how he dovetails with Jesus.
If another poor performance, then let’s let him cook in the background until he’s ready. His chance will come and I’m sure he will shine. Whether he Can displace Vieira who is giving me a serious hard-on right now, is a different question. Opposition dependent perhaps….
Serge
Just watched the 3rd goal again. It was Eddie who stole the ball from Manure and then passed to Viera. Viera’s pass to Gabriel Jesus was perfectBro that was saka Eddie was on the bench lol
No it was not – it was Reiss Nelson
Saka doesn’t need his right leg to be effective, it may make him better but it will not be comfortable and will take time. His feet are so quick so even tho they know he will cut inside, they don’t know when and how and thats what makes him effective. He doesn’t need a bag of tricks, he has one trick that is very effective as shown by his performances.
Mystic I felt the same as everyone else about Vieira but he deserves a start for one game to see what he does in the first 65 mins of a match. Just not against spurs please. We need physicality and flair in that match
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WegotsupermikSeptember 4, 2023 07:23:15
Serge
Just watched the 3rd goal again. It was Eddie who stole the ball from Manure and then passed to Viera. Viera’s pass to Gabriel Jesus was perfectBro that was saka Eddie was on the bench lolNo it was not – it was Reiss Nelson
Cool either way it was not Eddie
WW
If alot of people are going to look like complete dicks then why are you also suggesting that “If another poor performance, then let’s let him cook in the background until he’s ready.”?
That’s what the people you want to look like dicks have been saying. He’s been putting up poor performances and needs to be benched for someone else. You also admitted it. So maybe you will look like a dick too? Or we all just called the situation correctly?
Serge,
He definitely needs a chance and he will get it pretty soon. Like I said end product, never in doubt. Other aspects is where the problem is. When he starts he will have to be a part of a controlled system and contribute there, not a chaotic, final-minutes-of-game system. I am not holding my breath but I’d be very happy to be eat humble pie
Mystic, it’s undeniable that Havertz has been average so far but it’s safe to assume that Arteta has been giving him opportunities to assimilate and to gain confidence. I understand the argument that he could come off the bench to try and positively impact the team. When CL starts , he’ll be rotated in and out with a few other players so these first few games has been an opportunity for Arteta to give him plenty of minutes.
There is a sense that a lot of fans disliked the decision to buy him and were negative towards him before he’d even put on an Arsenal shirt. He has become the ‘boo boy’ almost immediately.
I can’t speak for WW but I know I instinctively feel defensive of any player who wears the shirt and it takes a while before I ‘turn against’ a player. I desperately want Havertz to succeed, primarily because he’s an Arsenal player but also because those fans who are too quick to be unsupportive would have to eat their words.
Bob, I’d reply in the new post
Bob I am exactly the same I want our signings to do well
Whoever wants one to fail is a bit strange to me like guns of hackney
However if they are not doing well then sometimes you have to take them out of the spotlight
In fairness, not everyone of us was overly worried about Vieira, quite a few were preaching patience, we clearly weren’t signing the finished article at 22, who only had 3,000 minutes,
The noise around his size is a Red Herring, plenty of slight players have excelled in the PL, this idea he needed to bulk up was ridiculous, he’s never going to be a physically dominant player.
The Idea he puts on 12 pounds of muscle, and was then going to evolve into Adama Traore, was absolutely ridiculous.
He’s always going to need to rely on good balance, agility, clever movement, quick thinking, and his outrageous technical ability.
Putting too much weight on wouldn’t suddenly turn him into Patrick Vieira, he’s never going to be going shoulder to shoulder and coming out on top against too many players…. If any.
But he can still press and nick away the ball, I used to hate playing against smaller players, when you go shoulder to shoulder with someone of similar size and come out on top, it just looks like good strength… But when you just slightly catch smaller players…. It looks like you’ve committed GBH.
The concern for me isn’t about his size, it’s whether he can adapt to the pace and intensity of the league, and plenty of slight players have done incredibly well in the PL.
The other concern is he has just 4,400 minutes at 23, and can we get him enough time to develop, and will our knee jerk fan base give him the space he needs to grow + develop?…
He needs to develop from an impact player who’s on the fringes of the game, and become a more dominant player throughout 90 minutes.
We can’t always buy the finished article, we’re also going to need to develop players, and that’ll inevitably mean a few ups and downs along route, and some teething stages to begin with.
If we want to identify and sign superstars before they become superstars, that’ll inevitably mean loans or teething issues to begin with…. But for the most talented players the juice will be worth the squeeze,
Vieira really needs to clock at least 2,000 minutes this season for the sake of his own development, but writing off player under 24 in central areas, and players in their first season arriving from other leagues is ridiculous.
It doesn’t mean all players will develop and come good, but Vieira was clearly more of a medium term investment designed to pay in year 2-3, than someone designed to produce top class consistency straight off the bat.
The other thing to consider is that the way we play is highly choreographed, players are on the ball on average for just 2 minutes out of the 90.
For the rest of the time it’s about controlling and moving the opposition around with movement as a collective, learning to do that takes time, and has nothing to do with technical ability.
For positionally aggressive teams learning the positional side of the game is massive, because one loose cog in the system can weaken the whole structure, and make teams incredibly vulnerable.
Serge
“Vieira is very creative we were all worried about him last season”
I wasn’t، he’s the one player in the side who can play the killer ball to perfection and that player is like gold dust..
There are only a few in the league who can put the ball on a sixpence in crucial situations and Vieira is one of them..
It’s all about trust with certain players and the manager has to learn to trust the likes of Vieira، Eddie and Nelson and that applies to their team mates as well as those 3(and smith rowe) are quality and just need the opportunities to prove their quality.
Bringing subs on earlier would be a start، moving jesus to the right to give saka a rest would give the team a different dynamic as shown yesterday when all of jesus good work (other than the goal) was done on the flanks.
I get why Martinelli starts over Nelson، it’s more to do with his off the ball work than on the ball work as Nelson certainly has a higher technical level.
Let’s see some real rotation from Arteta when the champions league starts it’s time to start trusting the very good fringe players.
https://twitter.com/Lhastim3/status/1698468569271431364?s=20
Yesterdays Wenger football at it’s very best.
The best decision taken by Arsenal in the transfer market over last 20 years was the acquisition of
Declan Rice. I said at the time when there were arguments about the transfer fee that the club needed to go the extra mile and secure his services.
Declan Rice is clearly a very solid individual off the pitch and that counts not just in his family life,
but also in relationships with other players in the club. He is also a very “reliable and excellent footballer”.
He can provide the “glue and leadership” in the next 8-10 years which every club aspiring for honours needs to build a successful team. It is highly unlikely that he will leave Arsenal unless
the club is mismanaged. That is a rare commodity in today’s football market place.
Arsenal do have the makings of a successful club/team, but only if we continue on the current path
and accept that we are not going to compete financially with clubs like Man City and Chelsea or
the new phenomen in Saudi Arabia the current destination for those footballers approaching
retirement age seeking a large pension pot.
We need to find players in our Academy good enough to play in our first team ie perhaps one every
two to three years and add periodically a top liner to fill a hole in our team/squad. We are now at
the stage to operate in that fashion.
PierreSeptember 4, 2023 08:49:54
Serge
“Vieira is very creative we were all worried about him last season”I wasn’t، he’s the one player in the side who can play the killer ball to perfection and that player is like gold dust..
There are only a few in the league who can put the ball on a sixpence in crucial situations and Vieira is one of them..
Pierre you were not alone in your views on how capable he is but he’s not the only player we have who can play a killer ball
We have Odegaard and Jorginho too
And zinchenko a little deeper
Plenty of killer ball players there
I swear I’m gonna shove a knitting needle in my ear if I hear maroon 5 one more time
God awful music
How on earth did they ever sell records