ACCEPTING THE PAIN OF PROGRESS + FIRING UP THE 12TH MAN (LONG READ)

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Arsenal drew against Fulham, and there have been many meltdowns. My group chats, Twitter, Arsenal fans sacrificing themselves to the gods in the streets.

It was only a draw folks; it’s really not the end of the world.

There are two things that need straightening out for me.

1.Why we drew

I’ve seen people picking on Havertz, blaming Martinelli, and digging out the Trossard performance. It wasn’t an attacking issue. They did their job. We created 19 chances, 11 shots were put on target, the quality of the chances merited a 3+ for xG and we scored two goals.

Two goals against Fulham and the best shot stopper in the league is very, very good. It doesn’t matter what you thought of the system or the personnel, if you’re criticizing the forwards, you are looking in the wrong place.

The issue was the defence and there was a very specific problem: Individual errors.

Bukayo Saka gave it away uncharacteristically. Perriera tried to chip Ramsdale and scuffed it past him. A total freak. Should Partey have moved into midfield so quickly? Hindsight, no. But we’re at a level nowhere you don’t expect Saka to play a through ball for an opposition attacker.

Zinchenko gave the ball away trying to play an unnecessary ball in a game we should have been killing.

The system can’t really save you in either of those situations unless you are being really critical and maybe a bit hopeful. Could Ramsdale have made sure a big man was on the front post? Maybe. But is that all on him? The fault is how the corner happened.

The good news is reducing brainfarts from quality players should be a fairly straightforward challenge to overcome. It’s a concentration issue. The biggest challenge we have in the area beyond the individual is early goals becoming our thing, a bit like it was under Conte at Spurs last season.

But in short, we’re not going to drop two points to many teams this season when we record 3 xG and concede less than 0.5. To put a finer point on it for the xG haters.

Teams that registered more than 2.5 xG this weekend.

Arsenal

City

United

West Ham

Villa

Only 2 of those teams didn’t score 3 – Arsenal & City

Only 1 team didn’t win – Arsenal

A little bump of copium for you there.

2. Why we’re changing

I chatted with three different groups of people yesterday that all reported the same thing: The atmosphere at the stadium has changed and it’s not like it was last year.

There are some soft reasons for that – it’s harder to get a ticket, the make-up of the stadium is more random, and maybe a reduction in allocations for the noise makers has had some bearing.

But the hard reason? Expectation. Every group said the same thing. Last season, we were underdogs. This season, every fan that is sitting in that stadium has shifted their expectations to CHAMPIONS ELECT.

It’s not YOUR fault if you feel like this. Arsenal finished a close second last year, we added some serious equipment to the side this summer, and we tied elite boys to contracts, and now we see them as MEN.

I wrote a few months ago that Arteta should do a better job explaining his plans. He hasn’t really and it’s biting him already. Fans are at their worst when they don’t understand the direction.

Here’s where I think we’re going and why:

Arsenal overachieved last season with 14 players (very young players). We started well, everyone came good, the system shone, and we competed for the league for 95% of the season.

It all collapsed for two reasons:

  1. Our squad wasn’t deep enough
  2. Arteta refused to rotate when he had the choice – rotation only came when his hand was forced because of injuries
  3. We were predictable because of the two points above

I don’t care how close we were in the league – the reality is Manchester City took us out into the garden, pulled our pants down, and spanked us with a stick. It was men vs boys – and our manager looked like a rookie chump.

Arteta felt that, it impacted him, he knew there was work to do.

Here’s the difference between Wenger and Arteta.

Arsene would have looked at the close finish, changed almost nothing, and maybe signed one or two players. His belief was too much change hurt the dressing room. He was a man of incremental improvement. Theo Walcott said the other day that he hated conflict. Arsenal fans were like docile dogs being petted in front of the fire when he convinced us all that there was simply no way to compete against monied teams – and we should basically shut up and let him have a good time with no accountability. We let that happen. It ended badly.

Arteta didn’t look at the five points and point to refereeing issues whilst drawing hard on a pipe of ‘maybe players won’t get injured’ hopium.

He realised to best City, we needed to add depth, we needed to have a deeper bench of super-intelligent players, we needed more height and power, and he needed to have more than one way of playing to keep opposition analysts guessing.

It should also be noted that the average age of our signings this summer was 23.75. The club has aged down our squad despite already having the second youngest in the league. Nothing gets people more angry that raising age as a challenge – ask ANY coach in ANY sport whether age impacts sporting outcomes and I’m telling you, none of them are going to deny it. Just think about how much you grew between 22 and 29 years old. Think if the mindset you had, the fuck ups you made, all the things you DID NOT KNOW. Then tell me age isn’t a factor. There’s a reason the average age of a CEO is 58 years old in America. There’s a reason that the average age of starting 11 teams that win BIG trophies usually sits at around 29 years old. Experience matters.

There’s also a deeper more tactical reason for ageing down. >>> Arsenal are aiming to peak when Manchester City fall. They won’t say this publicly because fans will be up in arms. But I have absolutely no doubt part of the summer rebuild was focused on two things:

When will Pep G leave?

When does this squad need to peak?

Pep will almost certainly be out in 2 years, maybe one.

As I said, squads tend to peak across all sports at around 28 to 29 years old. The average age of our starting 11 yesterday was 24.9 years old at the weekend. In 2 seasons’ time, the average age of our squad will probably be at about 25-26 once we ship out players like Partey and Jorginho. Then they’ll be ready to takeover… and stay there.

Part of peaking isn’t just about being mature enough to handle the pressure and the moment. It’s also being equipped with the right tools to take down any team. Arteta has said in the past that sometimes he makes decisions on who will play right up to the last minute. Being unpredictable is the ultimate weapon in the league. If you don’t know who is going to play or what shape will be deployed – it makes it very, very hard to plan.

Would the simplest way to compete this year just be more of the same? Yes. But eventually, in a league with the coaching talent we have, you get found out. Mourinho, dead. Carlo, dead. Antonio Conte, dead. Wenger, dead. Why? Because they were predictable.

Arteta wants to be unpredictable because he knows the best coaches in the world are working on exactly that at the moment. Pep G is the gold standard, he’s always doing new things, people disagree, they call him an galaxy brain thinker, but look at his accolades.

Our manager knows he’s the gold standard and the only way to match what he does is to have a deep squad of young players who are intelligent enough to be able to slip into any system, against any team, and play any way they are told to take the W.

My question here: Why wouldn’t you want that? Well, you would.

Now for the pain – it takes time to learn new skills. Arteta has a very complex system that took 18 months to get up and running. He’s trying to speedrun players into his way of thinking and it comes at a cost sometimes. The Fulham game was lost because of individual errors, but people don’t like change, so the finger of blame will always lie at the door of the obvious. That’s just something Arteta is going to have to deal with. Fans feel like they’ve been served tomorrow for 15 years. We’re 4 years into a project, and now we’re getting more of that. But we have to give managers freedom to move things forward, even if that causes light disturbances in our season. The alternative is a manager paralyzed to try new things – like Graham Potter at Chelsea.

What could make things easier for Arteta? Bring fans into the process. The more we know, the better we’ll handle days like yesterday. Right now it looks like Arteta is moving goalposts and creating complications where simplicity was winning.

We also have to be a little more accepting as fans. Too many people focus on the wrong problems and want to fight change. Football is always changing, as soon as you stand still to marvel at your achievements, you’re Antonio Conte screaming at shadows in a press conference.

The way I’m looking at the Fulham game is through my own lens of criticism last year.

  • Rotate in games you think you can get away with it
  • Lean into the full squad when everyone is available, not just when you need the players
  • Continue to develop the club to be future-proof

A lot of what happened yesterday was Arteta building on previous weaknesses – and people don’t like it.

It was extreme though. Does Arteta really have to play non-fullbacks as fullbacks? I’m not so sure. Jurrien Timber out injured threw a wrench in the system he’s trying to figure out. The manager really believed he was going to be an unreal piece of machinery this season.

Do we need to be dropping red-hot players 3 games into the season? Again, with foresight and hindsight, I think you could say that was an odd move.

I could go on – but two things I want to end with.

The 12th man has been one of the biggest attributes of the last two season. Arteta was worried some of our players were scared to play at home the season we opened with 3 losses. The turnaround has been outrageous. Whatever can be done to get that back in the mixer will pay dividends. The best space to learn is one that is warm, welcoming, and forgiving in the bad times. Groaning at misplaced passes makes for a shit day out and it causes issues with players who are listening.

Our manager has brought high-performance culture to Arsenal. He makes tough decisions 99% of Arsenal fans would never dream of. He puts blood on the floor and makes you look at it, weeping, like a small child. No one wants to win more than him. We’ve gone from being a laughing stock of the league, to genuine title contenders in 4 years. If he is running at change this hard, there comes a point where you have to sit back, and kind of let him do it. The base premise of what he’s trying to do isn’t wrong – if you think it is, please explain why you’re a fan of being predictable.

Is that AKBism in a nutshell? Could be. But for me, trust is a reward for getting majority of your decisions right. People were trusting Wenger when he was going entire summers without signing a single player. People trusted him when we passed on Toby Alderweirald and Virgil Van Dijk to bring Cal Chambers to the carpet. Trust shouldn’t have a forever window. But I think we can give change more than 3 games before declaring our season is over.

This is going to be a good season, the hard work we put in now will come with some bumps, but come the end of the season, we’ll be a better team, we’ll be more unpredictable, and hopefully we’ll be able to put Manchester City to the sword and show the world we’re a serious outfit that is built for the next decade.

LONG post today. Hope you enjoyed. Jump on the podcast if you haven’t already.

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Jamie

positive pete –

“Jamie? Pleeeeeeeeeeessssssssseeee.lol😂less rimming & more constructive thought.”

Please has an ‘a’ in it, donkey.

Shaun

Fulham complain that we didn’t put the ball out when Bassey was injured when we score our 2nd goal. 2 thing here to ask.
1. When Bassey went down injured the ball ran through and was picked up by Leno, so why didn’t he kick it straight out play.

2 Leno kept procession and played the ball out, if Fulham had gone on to score from this would they have asked for the goal to have been ruled out?

raptora

Shaun,
also if Bassey just rolled out of the pitch, he was literally touching the line, Saka would have been in an very, very obvious offside position and Saka’s the one who played the ball to Fabio.

KAY Boss

Pedro, you gradually losing me. What bollocks have you written? You are now more of an Arteta fan than an Arsenal fan. You irritate me with the exit of Pep as the only way Arsenal can rise again. Anyway how much is Arteta paying you?

Saka should be benched a bit to bring back his hunger. His stardom is gradually eating into him.

zaco

“pep will leave in two years time for us to have any chance of winning the title is the most irrational statement anyone can make.
our football this season does not look as good as how Spurs is playing at the moment, then think of United, Liverpool, Newcastle all in the race but no, we have to wait to Pep to exit to have a chance.

Mig

This is the best article (long or short) I have read this season. You have considered every aspect of the job of a manager and a manger in this globally celebrated PL. if Arsenal and Arteta want to compete then we have to be unpredictable and we have to ensure all our players can as you say slot in when called upon. I like our signings huge disappointment with Timber but from what I have seen the squad love him so he will come good of that I have no doubt. I also wanted to mention Gabriel and his bench… Read more »

Marko

Oh Jesus

Dissenter

‘ MADRID, Aug 28 (Reuters) – The mother of Spanish soccer federation chief Luis Rubiales who faces backlash for his unsolicited kiss on player Jenni Hermoso on Monday locked herself inside a church and announced a hunger strike to protest her son’s “inhumane treatment”, EFE news agency reported’

I knew this story was going to be entertaining, to say the least
What is going on with this dude?, now he’s Nelson Mandela?

Foxy

Well we looked lot more balanced in the second half with a 433 set up and much more creative down the left side. Vierra definitely seems better in the left channel as he can be more direct but his physical frailty led to their breakaway and near goal. He is not going to get away with buying fouls from slight contact this season. Will be interesting to see what Arteta has learnt from the game.

raptora

Dissenter, that’s spicy. There’s definitely more layers to the story than the “I’m a woman and my male boss took advantage of me” idea that seems to be the popular opinion. The guy kissed her for 0.5 secs and it didn’t look sexual in any way. Let him apologize to everyone affected and say he’ll try to be better in the future, then move on. Losing his job over this would be so dramatic and over the top.

jwl

A lot of our misplaced passes are because no one knows where they meant to be – I bet a lot of money saka did automatic pass to where blanco would have been if our manager hadn’t decided to play a new person at right back so we could be ‘unpredictable’. If arteta keeps this up we going to be very predictable in our incompetence and only our own players will find us unpredictable because they so confused about what they meant to be doing. When I read that rice interview about tets teaching him a whole new way to… Read more »

Un

TR7August 28, 2023 10:45:57 “Havertz has played 3 games. 3 games. And he’s being written off. He hasn’t even been bad. He’s been pretty good. He’s working hard and finding his way. 20 years ago Bobby pires was given over a year to settle. Havertz gets 3 games.”Well all well and good giving Harvertz a chance to settle in but what has ESR done to be sidelined for Harvertz? Unlike Harvertz, he has actually delivered for Arsenal and was the best player for us along with Sake until he got injured. Likewise Trosaard has done exceptionally well for Arsenal. Tr7… Read more »

Un

Diss

They guy kissed a girl with whom he’s very well acquainted. Just woke cancer turning it’s witch hunt another straight man for being a man.

Un

Diss
You know who’s packet of white powder turning up in the White House, the night footage emerged of him gurning like toothless bum, should be a bigger story. Where’s the witch hunt for that?

raptora

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12451323/Arsenal-Mikel-Arteta-Premier-League-Man-City-improvement.html SAMI MOKBEL: Mikel Arteta is kidding himself… he says Arsenal are 10 times better than last season but his tactical tweaks are NOT working Boss Mikel Arteta says his team are ‘10 times’ better than they were last season when they pushed Manchester City all the way. That doesn’t ring true. Maybe it was a deflection tactic or a reaction to assertions that his tactical tweaks have stifled fluency. On the evidence of the opening three games, if Arteta truly believes his side look a more accomplished outfit then he is kidding himself. Unconvincing is a more fitting description.… Read more »

raptora

A very good, balanced article by Sami Mokbel, one of the main journos covering our club.

By the way, he says about Gabriel – “But even up to Friday, Arsenal were preparing themselves to strike for a new defender in the event of an offer they can’t refuse.”

I guess he thinks Gabriel’s lack of minutes is connected to the interest of Saudi clubs and Real Madrid! What the fuck is an offer we can’t refuse? 80m? We’ll see.

Guns of Hackney

He gave a babe a peck on the lips and grabbed his winkle. That’s my everyday and the ladies love it.

Dunno what the problem is?

Guns of Hackney

Arsenal are not beating United.

You heard it here. It’ll be a long afternoon.

Dissenter

Un and rap,
So his hunger strike in a church is the panacea?

It’s all so bizzare
…and entertaining
It’s up to the Spanish football specialty and greater public to sort out.
At the very least, he’s become a distraction and cannot perform his duties so he needs to step away.
What you call a ‘job’ is actually a public position that needs the trust of the public to work, once he loses that…he’s toast.

One

Belfast GoonerAugust 28, 2023 10:00:32 One, it’s really not a fact. It’s just your opinion. Fans are not expecting goals and assists off the bat, after all we’ve seen what he’s produced in three years at Chelsea. But we’re hoping for more than lateral and backwards passing. He’s a square peg in a round hole. You’re basically claiming Havertz is too good for the players around him, who presumably don’t pass to him because they don’t like him. It’s a poor argument. Belfast, Agreed on the Backwards passes, that is Artetas’s own tactical perogative. I NEVER claimed he’s too good… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

If he’s kissed a man on the lips, no one would have cared.

And every game all across the world, men are kissing men after scoring a goal.

And bumming.

jwl

Why does Pedro think Pep is leaving in two years? Pep only manages corrupt teams who clearly have best squad in country, so Pep can go to Paris or one of the lesser countries but he would be irrelevant there. Pep has comfortable home where he is now, his every wish catered to. I seriously hope this is just pedro’s belief and not something he’s been told by insider because it is idiotic to develop our squad around another manager’s supposed departure.

jwl

I think the kiss was final straw, Spanish women are clearly unhappy with lecherous males they surrounded by, and now they fighting back.

One

raptoraAugust 28, 2023 13:01:33
Dissenter, that’s spicy. There’s definitely more layers to the story than the “I’m a woman and my male boss took advantage of me” idea that seems to be the popular opinion. The guy kissed her for 0.5 secs and it didn’t look sexual in any way. Let him apologize to everyone affected and say he’ll try to be better in the future, then move on. Losing his job over this would be so dramatic and over the top.

Already watched his apology video days ago.

Rich

Rap If we accept £80 million this late in the window for Gabriel, then selling clubs will just know we’re armed with £80 million, and the price for a replacement will just go up. Inacio has a €60 million ( £51 million release clause). I like Guehi…. But would Palace sell him now, knowing relegation will cost them infinitely more money than the £50 – £60 million incoming fee from Arsenal?. It pays to keep your talent, unless clubs can manoeuvre to offset departures in other areas, or replace with better. Same with Big Gabby…. CL is worth directly £40… Read more »

Marko

Jwl gets it. The freak grabbed his dick next to the queen and her 16 year old daughter he’s a fucking idiot. Of course Don feels differently he encourages that behavior around his daughter…oh no wait

One

jwlAugust 28, 2023 13:30:52
I think the kiss was final straw, Spanish women are clearly unhappy with lecherous males they surrounded by, and now they fighting back.

Yeah right… Watched the video of the kiss, he clearly had no intention behind it. Their entire back room staff including the players know rubi and the girl are great friends. Wokeness is causing a bigger divide than we need now.

Guns of Hackney

The freak grabbed his dick.

Line of the day.

Well done Marko, you creep.

Guns of Hackney

Back in the mid 2000’s a friend and I pretended to be gay thus gaining access to touching a woman’s boobs.

Times have changed.

Dissenter

It’s also about tone and contrition
Had he come out to apologize in a manner that was somewhat sincere maybe people would have moved on.
‘His apology was “I will not resign”. Whoever told him to have that staged press conference with his acolytes didn’t serve him well. They even managed to place the staff of the women’s team in front to make it seem like they were backing him…and it’s backfired.

Spain is having this issue, same way they still make monkey chants on black players. They will sort it out.
For me< it’s just good entertainment.

Josip Skoblar

There is so much unaccounted sexism and racism in Spanish football that the Spanish FA thought that they could do absolutely anything and get away with it. Rubiales looks and sounds like a macho thug.

Josip Skoblar

If Gabriel leaves the club now, we can say bye bye to the title straight away.

TheBayingMob

“hopefully we’ll be able to put Manchester City to the sword” We are many, many moons away from being able to do this FYI. I think you are right tho in that the problem with this season is how well we did last season. The expectation is through the roof, I think Arsenal fans have a huge amount of empathy for ‘the process’, what they don’t have a lot of room for is this about face season where we are going to get what should have really happened last season happy this; and that is, we’re going to be a… Read more »

Mr Serge

Guns you have been “pretending “to be gay for 30 years rumours are you turned Philip Schofield

Jeff

Top four anyone? How many games will we play this season before our ambitions are demoted to top four followed shortly by Europa? Until we can buy 6 or 7 actual world class players AND a world class manager, all your ambitions and aspirations will reside in hope and wishful thinking. This side and this manager are not PL or CL winning material. They are not. You can spin it how you like and shoot every messenger that tells you the same, it won’t change a damn thing. You know what I’m thinking? Even if there was no City, United,… Read more »

Marko

ESR linked to Chelsea… he’s waiting to kick off somewhere but it’s not going to be here so get as much money as you can.

Samesong

ESR going to Chelsea would break my heart.

Foxy

If Havertz was brought in to replace Xhaka on the left side then it did not look that way against Fulham as he was far more advanced but to little effect and generally looked a bit lost or got in the way. The deeper Xhaka role alongside Rice or Partey could work as Early on he played some really nice fast vertical passes down the line to set Martinelli on runs and with his size and pace should provide decent defensive cover when say Zini bombs forward which Xhaka struggled at.

Rich

Hope we don’t regret turning down €3 million for Holding, ending up with another loan, his contract running down, and leaving for nothing.

We really need to write a line under this one, and it’ll be long overdue.

Un

Marko would grab his own dick, if he could find it

Guns of Hackney

Serge. Not a rumour.

Marko

Check your mother’s twat Don.

Terraloon

Rich

I like Guehi…. But would Palace sell him now, knowing relegation will cost them infinitely more money than the £50 – £60 million incoming fee from Arsenal?.

The talk was they, Palace, will want £55 million but Chelsea would get close to £10 million sell on. Add that to the £15 million they are getting from Newcastle for the lad Southampton sold and in a blink of an eye Chelsea would be getting £25 million for players who weren’t even registered with them.

TR7

Un

All I know is ESR is at the receiving end of Harvertz experimentation. A talented player like him hasn’t got a minute of game time in 3 games. I want Harvertz to come good like anyone else but everyone should get equal opportunity to prove themselves. Harvertz shouldn’t get any special privilege. If he doesn’t perform then ESR deserves his chance.

Marko

Inacio and Antonio Silva are really good shouts in the future. Silva in particular has Saliba levels of potential

Dissenter

Terraloon
Guehi is 9n the England set up and is guaranteed a start at Palace mist if the time’
Why would he leave that to become a substrate for Arteta’s many experiments?

Terraloon

Dissenter

He would snap your hand off for several reasons one of which is money another is the liklhood of European football and he almost certainly would be a regular starter he is a far better player than holding and better than White

TR7

Would be a travesty if we took Harvertz from Chelsea and they took away ESR from us.

into the red

Pedro loves the bang the squad age drum. FYI, Burnley have the youngest average age (23.1) to our 24, with Sperz and Chelsea on 24.6. The Manchester clubs and Liverpool clock in around the 26 mark. So the supposed age ‘advantage is slight among the London clubs who have a couple of years on the northern ones. What does all that tell you about the nirvana of Pep’s leaving and where we will be by then? Not much at all, since the other two London have the same so-called advantage of youth in their ranks, and anyway, it will change… Read more »

Marko

60 million you can have him

Guns of SF

We should have a team that can compete and beat City. Not wait until Pep leaves etc
that is wishful thinking and just another excuse.
We spent big money and with that is big expectations. you either live up or you dont

Tom

“If he’s kissed a man on the lips, no one would have cared.”

Don would be enraged demanding his resignation.
Real men don’t kiss one another on the lips.

Crimson

Guns is a racist

H

I sit in the north bank. Normally your spot on Pesro, but don’t agree with this article at all. If Arteta doesnt win a trophy this season then he should be getting questioned and on the hot seat. We are not spurs looking to just compete and go trophyless. Arteta has been backed more than any manager in the league – including Pep, Ten Hag and Eddie Howe. However does he know his best 11 / Formation? What does he see in Havertz that ESR and Vieira are behind him in the pecking order. Why is Gabi M on the… Read more »

Dissenter

Guns of SF. aka real guns

Can you repost that quote you made about inverting
When you do, if you don’t mind I’ll borrow it for a minute

Dissenter

I’m also surprised that Arerta didn’t replace Steve Round on his staff

He needs people k around him that can tell him quietly that’s his poo aren’t roses. Could be getting surrounded by yes-men.

Marko

I think he didn’t replace Steve Round because he didn’t do anything

jwl

There is 99.99% chance that Arteta is entirely surrounded by yes men because he thinks he visionary creating new way to play and he doesn’t need any one questioning his choices.

psuedo warrior

I think Arteta was shocked and felt responsible for Arsenal’s collapse last season. He stuck to the same 11 as much as possible so much so that the team couldn’t cope with couple of injuries. This may be the biggest reason why we are seeing him gambling and rotating this season. Playing Gabriel and Saliba together is the easy choice. But an injury to one of them broke our season last time around and we need to be better prepared. Maybe that’s what is happening Eddie was defacto starter when Jesus was injured last season. This time around, he and… Read more »

Un

Marko
I’d check your own mum’s first.
Typical inbred jackeen behaviour

Marko

Can’t do any better Don. You had an hour to think of one. Poor lad

FoxInTheBox

‘’If Gabriel leaves the club now, we can say bye bye to the title straight away.‘

Mate, where’s the title? No more title chase anymore now. Wait for a few years till Diet leaves. This year Arsenal will not be at the top of table for even 20 days, if at all.

Last season theyvwere TotT for 248 days. That’s a record for a runner up.

FoxInTheBox

Don’t you guys get bored and frustrated seeng Arsenal possession? Same old passings between Saka and Ode and Partey and White and …..they will play Some 20 passes thereabout. Then earn a corner and screw it all over.

Somebody go and check out a heat map of Arsenal moves. It will all be between 25 to 35 yards from opponents’ goallines. Same old same old.

FoxInTheBox

Pain of progress!!?????

EdTheRed

GOH
Back in the mid 2000’s a friend and I pretended to be gay thus gaining access to touching a woman’s boobs.

“pretended” doing a lot of heavy lifting there. 🙂

EdTheRed

The comfort of regress.

Mysticleaves

Was very sure that Pedro post was bullshit. Didn’t read it and the comments have already proven me right.

Mysticleaves

I mean Peds, thanks for your efforts in putting up blog posts but how do you title a post “pain of progress”?

PS: Zinchenko has been losing the ball last season in dangerous places. We only weren’t punished plenty. A lot is said about how Zinch helps us in possession (and it’s true) but Saturday wasn’t the first time he’s lost the ball unnecessarily. He’s really not good enough in defensive phases and awareness and he plays such a vital role for us

dSidstathopoulos

Marko has No respect for mothers except the virgin one.

raptora

pseudo: “Playing Gabriel and Saliba together is the easy choice. But an injury to one of them broke our season last time around and we need to be better prepared. Maybe that’s what is happening” The easier choice was to bring another CB good enough to rotate with them. Maybe that’s supposed to be White but again, if he wanted to repeat what Pep is doing, he would have started Gabriel in one of our 3 games, and benched either Saliba or White for just 1 game out of 3. He didn’t and he hasn’t. What he’s doing now is,… Read more »

Zacharse

Arteta has been backed more than any manager in the league – including Pep, Ten Hag and Eddie Howe. However does he know his best 11 / Formation? nope, pep’s had way more backing. What does he see in Havertz that ESR and Vieira are behind him in the pecking order. i don’t think he can see them when theyre behind havertz, he’s 6’3 Why is Gabi M on the bench? Because he might be getting a giant bid ownership might not be able to refuse. Has Partey played RB ever in his career? yes. Seriously so many questions. Fact… Read more »

Mysticleaves

We didn’t need to tweak the system that was working. Pep would have upgraded the players that let him down. You don’t need the prophets to tell you that Ramsdale, Zinchenko (for the role he plays) and Jesus aren’t good enough for a title winning team. Instead of upgrading on them and going for a title tilt on a city that is going through the motions and a forced mini rebuild we decided to be cute by buying square pegs that we must fix in round holes. Now Rice will come good. He’s already shown that but he doesn’t have… Read more »

Zacharse

Josip SkoblarAugust 28, 2023 13:55:08
There is so much unaccounted sexism and racism in Spanish football that the Spanish FA thought that they could do absolutely anything and get away with it. Rubiales looks and sounds like a macho thug.

WITH a psychotic mother. she’s locked herself inside a church evidently to pray it all away

MidwestGun

Zinchenko (for the role he plays) and Jesus aren’t good enough for a title winning team.
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Huh? Pretty sure Zinchenko and Jesus have won multiple titles. Zinny 4 of them and Jesus same. . Jesus also won a title in Brazil.

Guns of SF

Diss

I said something like
Mike wants his team to invert, outvert and become introverts!

Guns of SF

No Pool fan were told that, lets wait until Pep leaves for us to take over.
Pool and Klopp said fuck that, and developed a team that went head to head with City.
Thats what we should be doing. I said it before, we need a team that can beat City regularly, all the spoils will come with that

Guns of SF

BTW this is not wokism. This is simply rights of women in the workplace. Not just football. Would you expect the reverse to happen to the Spanish mens team? The unity behind Jenni is great. Xavi, Iniesta and others are now calling out this fool. Even the head coach.This is a serious problem and the women have had enough. Prior to this, a lot of them were banned from the team for bringing up their concerns. Those players did not get to play in the WC RFEF needs a major clean up and come into the modern world. Spanish football… Read more »

Jamie

Amen, Guns of SF.

Un

MarkoAugust 28, 2023 15:50:33
Can’t do any better Don. You had an hour to think of one. Poor lad

Marko
Muppet
One of us has a life outside of tippy tapping their phone all day

dSidstathopoulos

The Rubiales saga is planned to divert attention from the neo colonialists that have refused to leave Niger

Un

dSidstathopoulosAugust 28, 2023 16:38:25
Marko has No respect for mothers except the virgin one.

Marko was raised in a caravan. It’s not his fault

Mysticleaves

“Huh? Pretty sure Zinchenko and Jesus have won multiple titles. Zinny 4 of them and Jesus same. . Jesus also won a title in Brazil”

Pretty sure a lot of squad players have won multiple titles too.

Tom

“They guy kissed a girl with whom he’s very well acquainted. Just woke cancer turning it’s witch hunt another straight man for being a man.“ Un, “ very well acquainted “ from a private, social setting, or because he’s been her de facto boss on national level you donut. All you really need to know about the guy is his conduct on the day to know there’s way more skeletons in his closet. Also, most of these players may look like “ poundland Karens” chasing after the ball with their hair up and no make up( at ease Sid), but… Read more »

Un

Sf

Another witch hunt
Trial by media
Court of public opinion
It’s not enough the fella loses his job
No he must be universally pilloried and disgraced before his remains are scattered to the crows
Was it stupid? Of course. Incredibly stupid. But it’s all a bit much
This is the perfect storm. Women looking for parity under the patriarchy and one received an unwanted kiss. BURN THE WITCH!!
Btw, the pay gap is a myth and has been completely debunked numerous times.

MidwestGun

Not what you said though is it? Honestly what you said made no fuckin sense. Not only were they good enough they have done it 4 times. Multiple times.. and got us to within spitting distance last season. Maybe fact check before you hit enter.

Un

Tom
Seriously mate
I wouldn’t touch the vast majority of these women with a 6 foot barge pole
You ain’t seen my level 😎

jwl

“For the third time in their last nine home league games, Arsenal went behind in the first minute. That has become more than a quirk; it’s a failure of mentality. Bournemouth caught them cold with a clever kick-off routine, while Southampton and Fulham have been presented with the ball in dangerous areas.

Arsenal then toiled, got back into the game and, after goals in the 70th and 72nd minutes, took the lead, and seemed to have the victory sealed when Calvin Bassey was sent off after 83 minutes. At which point they suddenly conceded.”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/aug/28/manchester-city-arsenal-premier-league-jonathan-wilson?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Un

News talking about Spain’s macho culture. Have they been to Spain? 😂 It’s more liberal than Marko’s application of lube in his tube sock

Tom

Un, I’m sure tens is all you ever nail……….. that’s probably why you fall asleep at 10.

Marko

Btw, the pay gap is a myth and has been completely debunked numerous times.

Totally credible sources I’m sure. But hey guys the pay gap has been debunked Don says so let’s just wrap it up and move on.

Un

Tom
I do the odd 8

Un

As I suspected, Marko’s Willy is an innie not an outtie

Pierre

Talking about the spanish inquisition

I could have sworn I saw klopp cuddle and lift a female collegue off her feet at the end of the game yesterday….is that allowed ?

He did hug the male collegues but he never lifted them off their feet..

Someone call for the spanish inquisition
https://youtu.be/HqF_nPbX_Ow?si=GApFq93r9nGX_Qqa

Marko

Obsessed with my dick balls and sphincter Don. No wonder I didn’t want to meet up.

Marko

If people think this just about an unprovoked kiss I dunno what to tell you.

Un

Marko There are other determining factors at play such as child birth and work rate. A certain small percentage of men are more willing to work 80 hours weeks than anyone else, including the vast majority of women When you factor in the biological clock ( you know, the biological urge to reproduce) at 30 or so, which causes high achieving women to drop out of the work force and seek a family, then it makes perfect sense But marko. My poor sweet marko. Please use your google and go and research for yourself. Open your mind. Who knows, you… Read more »

Un

MarkoAugust 28, 2023 18:02:02
Obsessed with my dick balls and sphincter Don. No wonder I didn’t want to meet up.

Yeah I’m too much man for ya. So effeminate you’re worried I’d smash the granny out of you.

Un

MarkoAugust 28, 2023 18:03:14
If people think this just about an unprovoked kiss I dunno what to te

Marko
Illuminate us all. What is it actually about? Not a kiss or a crotch grab? Do tell

Un

MarkoAugust 28, 2023 18:03:14
If people think this just about an unprovoked kiss I dunno what to tell you.

Unprovoked? Fucking lol
You’re talking about a kiss as though it’s a punch in the Adams Apple, not that you’d know anything about that