GALAXY BRAIN FLUNK OUT – IS THAT FAIR OR LAZY?

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If you’ve been following the site and the podcast this summer, you’ll know I’ve spoken of the pain I think we’ll feel this season as Arteta transitions his team from a predictable 13 to a formationally fluid 18. The draw against Fulham is a sharp example of that pain.

Arteta rolled with a very odd starting 11. He dropped Eddie, who has been on fire, Gabriel stayed on the bench with White lining up with Saliba, and both our full backs were not full-backs.

The football was not champagne; we conceded in under a minute, and the whole plan that was built on newness was blown instantly. Everything felt 5% off. Not shocking, but far from characteristic.

That said, we dominated. Some fixes were implemented at halftime. The team clawed the game back to 2-1. Then we blew it when Zinchenko brainfarted in open play and let Fulham get into our 3rd. We fluffed the corner – no big man on the front post, a great shot, a disappointing draw.

It felt like the easiest place to lay blame was Arteta.

But…

19 shots.

11 shots on target.

4 big chances

xG of 3

71% possession

We lost to a team that…

Hit the target 3 times

Scored 2 goals

Recorded a 0.43 xG

Only made 26 passes in the final third

Could the starting 11 have been better? Of course. But you have to be able to hold a long-term thought in your mind when you have a pop about that.

Arteta vision: Having 18 players that can play any formation, against any team, to create unpredictability for the opposition.

To get there, you need to try new things. New things come with pain. But do you take some of that pain early so you can be ready for the business end of the season?

Arteta has gambled on a yes here.

There are some worries from the game. Kai Havertz looked very Chelsea out there. He did good work off the ball, found some good positions, kept control of the ball well. But we didn’t sign him to be good at running around and I don’t think fans are going to show much patience for him this season. He has to be better, fast. I’m sure he will. Dennis, Thierry,  Pires, and Freddie all started slow. Give the man more than 3 games.

Trossard – more like Drossard. Where did his game go? He was outstanding during preseason, great touch, impact every time he played, and output. He was WAY off the pace and deservedly took an early shower.

I don’t like playing Partey and Kiwior as full-backs. One, sure. Both? Seemed like a big risk. I know Kiwior has impressed in training and they wanted to give him minutes, but please, not when Partey is the other side.

Our finishing wasn’t up to speed. Saka, Martinelli, and Havertz need to better off 11 shots on target and some great openings. I’m not concerned though – we know this team has goals and they scored two today.

The subs were largely decent. Eddie was a difference maker. He occupied Fulham defenders, he was very direct, he forced a red card, and he was in the right position to finish. Same for Fabio Vieira. I got pelters for saying he’d be one to watch last year, fairly as well. But this year? Maybe we need to reassess. Let him seduce us into loving him. He was pivotal. He won the penalty, set up Eddie, and nearly scored a screamer late on. Let’s see where his game goes this season.

Unforced errors were the main concern of the day. It’s hard to shout “WE GOTTA STOP CONCEDING AFTER A MINUTE” because I’m sure the players know that. What might be a bigger catch-all is that individual errors have been costing us for the last month and our players are too good for that. Zinchenko had errors in him last season, Saka almost never does… correcting those is easier than correcting meek talent or a bad system.

Sadly, there are some times in football where you have to say… shit happens. Shit happened, we didn’t deserve a point, but we got one. We still have a chance to exit phase one of the season with 10 points which will be a good haul. United are a mess, they got VERY lucky against Forest, and Onana looks a total mess at the moment.

Arteta took a chance on Fulham. He thought rotating against them at home was a good bet. We can’t go too hard at him addressing an issue that blew up our season last year. Rotation is necessary, especially with Champions League. That said, I want to see a more serious 11 against United. That’s a blockbuster game and there’s no need to do anything mental.

So let’s see what we have. Big week ahead on the training pitch. Don’t get too down in the dumps over a point against Fulham. Plenty of time to catch up.

Right, see you in the comments. Check out the pod if you haven’t.

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allezkev

The guy in charge of the analytics?

Thierry Martinelli

Trent is the epitomy of the current LFC.

Jamie

Everyone is rushing to conclusions about the red card. Please re-watch the game another 5-6 times without emotion or anxiety before making your minds up. This is how pro internet analysts do it.

Nigel Tufnel

Marko,
You keep desperately trying to take shots at me but keep coming up impotent.
I’ll make it simple for your low level of understanding:
When it happens to Ramsdale. Supporters like you called him shite, even though it happens to every other keeper commonly, including Ederson and Alisson.
But when it happens to those 2, nobody here calls them shite for it.
Ramsdale should be allowed the same amount of human understanding without his own fans tearing into him for a common, almost unavoidable occurrence.
Your little mind isn’t even capable of grasping a simple double standard.

Dissenter

Tom
I recall you’re the only one who had his knickers in a know over the comment back when I wrote it so I’m glad it’s met you well.
Organizations have a way of offering g sacrificial lambs to the slaughter, I’ll let them choose.

Why are you so desperate for a name, seems you have ulterior motives to hurt someone

Dissenter

*knickers in a knot

Dissenter

Endo getting acquainted with the league

Tom

Dissenter, Havertz was an Arteta signing full stop.
If you believe it was a sacking offense, fine, but why the mystery as to who’s responsible?

WengerEagle

Barca now losing 3-2? Could have sworn they were 2-0 up in the 1st half…

Marko

When it happens to Ramsdale. Supporters like you called him shite, even though it happens to every other keeper commonly, including Ederson and Alisson.

You’re really struggling aren’t you. There’s a reason arsenal fans call the arsenal keeper shite when he fucks up and meanwhile when the Liverpool keeper fucks up I’m sure there’s Liverpool fans who call him shite. Does that help you now

Dissenter

Tom
Seems you have it all figured out. Whom you you think the cap fits?
Connect the dots …or rather why not follow the trail of all the posts

If I give you a name, you’ll probably end up asking me to spell it next

Tom

Reffing in the PL is super hard because of 22 playacting cunts trying their best to tilt the odds their way on any given day.
But there’s a solution to the problem; sign only openly gay players.
As soon as players begin dating each other, like in women’s game, their respect for rules and conduct will immediately improve.
You welcome.

Dissenter

The Ramsdale vs Allison comparison is a bit silly.
Allison’s bonafides are unquestionable
He’s been in 2 CL finals and won one. He’s also won a league championship.

It’s Ramsdale that needs to prove himself
It’s not posters on legrove who brought in Raya on loan, obviously some persons at the club have the same reservations

Nigel Tufnel

Lol Liverpool fans saying Alisson isn’t good enough because a ball went through his legs?
Ok Marko.
If that wasn’t such a stupid statement, I could ask some scouser friends if that happens.
I see you desperately flailing but you never quite think things through before talking.

Dissenter

Liverpool have coped quite well since they went one goal down
I still think Newcastle will score 1-2 more goals later in the game

WengerEagle

4-3 Barca, now, what a game.

andy1886

A goal up at home against ten men – surely the correct move is to take off your forwards and try and hold on for the win? Someone tell Howe.

Dissenter

Klopp giving. a debut to Jarell Quansah, a 20 year old academy graduate
Didn’t he get the memo that the stage is too big for such players?

raptora

Told you about Darwin. He can be a monster striker.

Dissenter

That was a very good finish

LoveSausage

Amazing strike from Nunez.

Samesong

Harvey Barnes should of passed it to Wilson to make it 2-0 and now his team are drawing. Decisions, decisions.

Thierry Martinelli

Bang!!
Barnes will have nightmares for not squaring it to Wilson

Sly

Impressive comeback
Liverpool kept their shape and positive approach in spite of being one down
There might be another goal in this game

Leftside

Very good strike

raptora

Jota and Darwin are reserves btw. The two plus Elliot have changed the game.
Darwin has it all.

Sly

Newcastle play like the English national team
Brawn, a little skill, minimal creativity
Reflection of their coach

Samesong

Rap

Last season Darwin was hitting those shots wide.

raptora

Same,
yeah, huge price tag, coming from a vastly inferior league, he’s still raw at 23 yo. If a few things go his way and he builds up some momentum, he could become a superstar CF.

Samesong

And he’s just scored the winner

raptora

Told you! Insane Darwin. What a player!

Sly

🤣🤣🤣
I guess klopp has still got it

Just Another Customer

lmaoing at this match

Dissenter

Wow
Amazing scenes

Leftside

Amazing

Newcastle have a poor record when going ahead v Pool.

Game done now.

WengerEagle

Wow.

Nunez may just explode this season.

Nigel Tufnel

Good work by Guimaraes and Botman.

Leftside

Nunez has been brill since coming on

Marko

Nigel it’s really hard talking to you. Mainly cause you lack basic comprehension

raptora

Newcastle with a meltdown for the history books. 1-0 and man up at half time at home. Absolute meltdown.

Habesha Gooner

Lol. Newcastle have an inferiority compled. There is no way they should lose this. But somehow they have. They still don’t belong at the top yet.

Nigel Tufnel

I mean, ” the great” Guimaraes.

Marko

Liverpool showing how its done

LoveSausage

Very poor by Newcastle this. But the commentators talking about Liverpool being title contenders… Sounds like they’ve run out of plausible narratives already after 3 games.

Jamie

Weekend of comebacks for teams down to 10 men it seems

WengerEagle

Nunez single-handedly winning me 200 quid, what a guy.

Dissenter

Habesha
‘ They still don’t belong at the top yet.’

Be careful what you say, might come back and bite ya

raptora

At half time a buddy said “let’s see if Newcastle has the bottle to win without scoring the all important 2nd goal, City usually don’t need it”. Well, he got his answer. City can win without the 2nd goal cause they have the mentality, Arsenal and Newcastle can’t.

andy1886

Salty Saudi Geordie tears tonight. Lovely.

Curse

I love Pool, I really do

raptora

WE, lol let’s go!!!

Sly

Newcastle have an inferiority compled. There is no way they should lose this. But somehow they have. They still don’t belong at the top yet.

They took the game to Liverpool
They’d have played a low block against us for sure
Pool Bravery and a superior football IQ cost them

WengerEagle

Habesha is right, this was a case of Newcastle showing a clear inferiority complex. They had absolutely no right to lose that game from their 1st half position.

Guy’s like Gordan, Almiron, etc may be enough to get you 4th but that’s their ceiling. They along with Howe will be moved on in the next couple of years if the owners really are looking to replicate City.

Curse

Andy, put em in a pint glass, cheers

Goona

Fucking scousers, geordies did one of our performances..fucking shit after scoring..

Dissenter

Nah I don’t buy the Habesha argument

Had Adama Traore take a tumble under the Saliba tackle, we too may have lost

Samesong

Jao Felix would of been a great signing for us.

raptora

Fk Pool but if they had bought Caicedo they’d be up there among the contenders.
Midfield of Caicedo, Mac Allister and Szobo was going to be very solid.
Diaz, Gakpo, Jota, Salah, Darwin as your offensive options is quite crazy.

I’m happy Klopp didn’t get Moises.

Spanishdave

Klopp can buy an expensive player and use him for impact we should do the same with Havertz

Vickingz

Tell me galaxy brain would have won this match

Dissenter

We need a striker that can do what Darwin Nunez just did
Too much false 9s going on in the game now .

raptora

Fk that Felix worm. Twerking all summer for Barca. He’s a crock that directly refused to play for Atleti. Doesn’t fit the character profile we’re supposedly looking for. Fk him.

Tom

Robbie Mustoe nailed it for me about Necastle; take away their intensity, for whatever the reason, and their level drops.
Not enough quality to play around a quality side like Pool, even a man up.

salparadisenyc

Dissenter is surely the goat of ‘kiss of death’ in match commentary.

WengerEagle

Newcastle do lack quality, just take a look at their XI.

Howe had done a phenomenal job there but he’s not going to be there long-term if the Saudi’s ambition matches the Qatari’s at City.

andy1886

Amen to that Diss, false nines is another fad that will go the way of all the others. So will CB’s as FB’s when Pep gets bored of it. Wouldn’t it be nice if certain people had their own ideas rather than knock off versions of Pep’s?

Spanishdave

Oh to have a fearsome CF again who scares the opposition.
We just have ghosts.

TheLegendaryDB10

How refreshing would it be to see Viera or ESR start in the 8 role next week and havertz dropped to the bench. (David.D,) This. I am sick and tired of seeing everyone else get a run (Fabio and Havertz) except ESR. What has ESR done to not get a look in over Havertz? It’s not right and really not respectful of such a talented player. Arteta is in fact incapable of giving everyone a chance. Look at Tross the Boss. Absolutely on fire in pre-season yet Arterta waits until the 3rd game to play him, killing that red hot… Read more »

salparadisenyc

Do agree our achilles this season will be lack of goals, yet to be addressed in window.

Goona

@spanish…completely agree, we are far to light physically upfront to many players of the same ilk…

Marko

That Lamine Yamal lad at Barcelona even at 17 is why they’re apparently willing to let Fati leave. Very big prospect

Vickingz

Craig Burley on Mikel Arteta & Kai Havertz: “This talk from Arteta is nonsense, There’s another one in the second-half where the crowd got on his back, somebody played a beautiful little ball into him, sixty yards from goal, he had 10 yards to turn because no defender had got tight to him and he passed it back 15 yards and gave it away.” “There is nothing in this Kai Havertz performance or performances that suggest that this player is any different, not one iota from the player who was performing for Chelsea. The only difference is he’s wearing a… Read more »

Ben D

Andy1888,

Your comment didn’t age well, did it? Do you think holding on for the 3 points is better than losing all?

raptora

As long as Kai plays like a CF, there’s no way he and Marti are going to build an understanding. His runs off the ball are good but what about if he stays in a position receive the ball, then when Marti passes the ball to him, he returns the ball back to a flying in the free space Marti? Two off the ball players in Marti and Havertz won’t work. Either Havertz changes into a more playmaking player or one of them makes way for another player. Trossard + Havertz might work but also we saw Marti + Vieira… Read more »

Vickingz

Newcastle do lack quality? Wait till they play Arsenal

Goona

Havertz should not be starting games when you look what we have available on the bench…how does he start ahead of those players? Arteta is selecting him to the detriment of the team…

Goona

The geordies weren’t great today. If we don’t improve they will beat us…no doubt about that….

Vickingz

Everyone can see what’s wrong in this team except galaxy brain and his goons, we’ve been playing with 9 men since the league started, 9 men!.

Vickingz

We’ll have RICE conversation someday, we ain’t ready for it yet

Adams

Fuck off vickingz together with Your negative vibes.

Mr Serge

Vikings is a troll as usual do one

TitsMcGee

I’m sure he will. Dennis, Thierry, Pires, and Freddie all started slow. Give the man more than 3 games.” Not sure I get the comparison. Those players all came from different leagues when they arrived here. Havertz has been in the Premier League for 3 seasons prior to arriving here. He underwhelmed in each of those three seasons . If you look at his whole career going back to the Bundesliga he’s only had one season in his entire career with a decent goal return It’s way more likely that Havertz is who he is at this stage and that… Read more »

EdTheRed

That was quite impressive performance by Liverpool.

Mr Serge

Ed
Not impressed with Liverpool tbh they huffed and puffed until Howe screwed up and did 4 subs taking off his 4 best players
Tonali joelinton and Bruno were dominant

You made that chav kid look a world beater and TAA looks as lost as last season and was lucky to not get sent off

Andy1886

BenD, no, it’s a fair cop. Also fair to say that Fulham and Pool are total different propositions though.

dSidstathopoulos

Liverpool signed Japanese Caicedo

Josip Skoblar

🚨🎙️ Craig Burley on Mikel Arteta & Kai Havertz: “This talk from Arteta is nonsense, There’s another one in the second-half where the crowd got on his back, somebody played a beautiful little ball into him, sixty yards from goal, he had 10 yards to turn because no defender had got tight to him and he passed it back 15 yards and gave it away.” “There is nothing in this Kai Havertz performance or performances that suggest that this player is any different, not one iota from the player who was performing for Chelsea. The only difference is he’s wearing… Read more »

rollen

Ramsdale should play In Granit position, Havertz at goal, Partey RB, Zinchenko CB, ESR Trossaed bench forever. Teams supposed to just roll over for the galaxy brain!!
Just look at Looserpool, city and Barca games and it doesn’t look good for us. It was boys vs men last fre seasons, now it’s confused out of position boys vs men. No more excuses for Checkbook Tets.

Mr Serge

MA needs to go back to the back 4 of last season from the next match I don’t want to see Partey at RB vs Rashford

Tom

“Tom
I recall you’re the only one who had his knickers in a know over the comment back when I wrote it so I’m glad it’s met you well.”

Dissenter, you’re confusing mine making fun of you and having knickers in a knot friend.
You’ve been complete drama queen over the Havertz signing.

TheLegendaryDB10

“But at the moment, there’s a £70 million burning problem in Arteta’s pocket, because, in my opinion, he’s going to have to drop him. Arsenal are a better side without him in the team.”(ESPN via tbr)

This

Arteta has decided he will shoehorn him, good or bad, just to show how right he was to buy him.

We shouldn’t have bought him.

We have ESR.

Curse

Anyone can beat us if we keep fuckin about, we need to get up to speed with this transition asap.

Marko

Now that Tierney is gone our LB’s for the season are Zinchenko (injury prone), Tomiyasu (Injury prone, better as a backup RB) and Kiwior (not a LB at all). To go with that for the season is risky to say the least

TheBlaster

He is a good manager and a good tactical coach. Very good. Am uneasy about ‘Galaxy Brain’ because it gets a bit quasi religious like the AKBs in the latter days of Wenger. I just don’t think we can afford an ideologue (again) or to have a manager out in a position where they feel untouchable. Like awesome in theory having 18 players who can all play everywhere, but that ideal has to play second fiddle to getting results. We played the right way but we lost? Nah. Not going through that again. We Just can’t afford to blow points… Read more »

Foxy

The ESPN panel you tube video was really interesting and confirmed the views of many in this forum.
In particular Frank Leboef mentioned in connection with Partey how difficult it is from his own experience for a central midfielder to play at RB, much easier to slot in at CB.

EdTheRed

Serge

They played with 10 man for an hour and kept the score at 1:0, and then they took their chance once Howe’s bad subs (Barnes in particular) opened the door for them. Very mature, very impressive performance. If this was us, people will be talking about potentially season defining moment, me first.

Pierre

4 days ago I wrote this

“PierreAugust 23, 2023 14:10:43
Unfortunately we are already going down the road of an obsession with Havertz، finally the Ozil obsessives have found their new figure of hate، although it is not hate yet but guaranteed if we lose or draw a game with Havertz in the side the Havertz obsessives will come down on him like a ton of bricks.”

Say no more……hate it is.

raptora

Nah, Newcastle away is one of the worst places to play. One man disadvantage and one goal down at half time. Their supporters are passionate and hostile af. What we saw was a historic comeback. The Geordies absolutely crumbled, no doubt about that, but that comeback was a spectacle. One of the biggest win in the PL for Liverpool. Historical.

Nigel Tufnel

I noticed that play that Burley describes in the quotes…. it bothered me a lot, it made me cringe, but it was really the only single instance I felt that way about Havertz in all 4 games. Otherwise he’s done plenty of good things, with good effort,, except score, same as the rest of our midfielders so far. The fact that 2 or 3 people are now doing the same exact, long, copy and paste quotes from that brickhead Craig Burley is just evidence of the irrational hatred and scapegoating of Havertz from the moment he arrived. If you’re listening… Read more »

raptora

Pierre August 26, 2023 18:06:00
We could be getting ourselves into another Willian situation with Havertz with Arteta playing him week after week without any noticeable improvement…still early days though
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Guess that makes you a Havertz hater as well.