Oh my fucking word, did you see that Spurs performance last night?
They broke the habit of a season and went 2-0 up against Manchester City, nearly gifting us the title in the process, then they went in for a chat at halftime and conceded FOUR GOALS IN A HALF.
Can you imagine having to suffer all the pain of Conte-ball, without the defensive security? That was what Emeryball was like!
xSPURSINESS, my new predictive metric for Conte’s side, was quite low. It would have been Spursy to lose to Arsenal then smash City… did I expect them to concede 4 goals in a half? No chance. Now, you could say ‘well, Spurs did it on purpose’ but you have to remember those players are not fans like you or I. They want to compete, they are desperate to be relevant by making the Champions League, they do not want to be humiliated in front of the world.
They were.
That was one of the most embarrassing collapses I’ve seen in a long time. I was actually in a bar chock full of Spurs fans in Liverpool Street. The atmosphere wasn’t even that toxic, it was the worst kind of reaction… total apathy. They know they are shit, the Conte dawn was false, and they are now at least 4 years away from being a decent side.
Where are all those voices that were in my Twitter feed when I was explaining how this would go?
Where are all those Arsenal fans that clogged up the LG comments telling me how elite he was?
Where are all the Spurs fans that were so vicious to me in the summer, even my Spurs mates said it was disgusting?
Crying into their Harvester brunch right now, that’s where.
The only inevitability of Conte is this will happen and it is BEAUTIFUL.
What isn’t nice about that result is it may have given City a bit of a kick up the backside. They are very good this season, but they are not great. The football isn’t as incisive. Haaland gives them goals, he doesn’t give them dynamism. If you can play around their press, there are goals to be had. It’s very weird there, it’s like the robots have become sentient and they know Pep is after one thing and one thing only: Champions League.
It was also notable that he took at pop at the City fans after they booed him at halftime… a shocking thing to do to a side that successful. Has he seen how Mikel has rallied Arsenal’s fans? Does he recognise that is a competitive advantage he’ll never have at City? Maybe.
Arsenal has signed Trossard to a 4 year deal for £21m. Honestly, you can’t knock it. Does it make me frisky? No. But that’s more because as fans we’re addicted to the unknown. What is the real job over the next 5 months? To not miss a beat. Mudryk clearly has the skills to go right to the top of the game, but it’s no guarantee he’ll hit the ground running there. Same for Felix, who has a boatload of talent, but he’s not physically there.
We have purchased a player that was desperate to join Arsenal, he turned down Spurs, and he did what was needed to get the move. He’ll fit right into our system, Arteta and his team will know how to extract the most from his game, and I have no doubt he has what it takes to be a difference-maker in games on the bench or in the starting 11.
I was wondering if that signing was a learning from last January. For me, it wasn’t. That was a different circumstance. Signing Vlahovic doesn’t change the outcome of last season to me because the real issue was twofold: We had a very good striker on the bench, but we didn’t have replacements for Tomi, Tierney, and Thomas Partey.
We did break strategy though. 28 years old is about 4 years out from where we normally are. I don’t expect this to be the norm, but do be prepared to see older heads coming into the squad this summer. Our rotation options are 22 and younger right now, that won’t fly when we’re in the Champions League, so we might need a few players that are tried and true that can help us rotate against top, top teams every other week. Remember, Arsenal are trying to win the Champions League at the first attempt, there will be no slow approach.
Right, we’re going to record a Before The Whistle a little later, it’ll be a BIG one, plenty of exciting things to gas about.
P.S. I’m trying to find out who Jakub Kiwior is right now…
Ill do everyone a favor and post this, easy clicking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeoF9_MP61o
Guns
Did you make that video yourself, given that you’re so excited at the prospect.
Diss nah, no time for all that. I just saw it in my cama internet scouring.
Lots of excited gooners out there
Diss
Let me guess, you don’t rate Camavinga for some obscure, edgy reason? Shocker.
Cama with an option to buy I’d surely too good to be true. He would basically complete our squad and mean in the summer we’d have no pressure at all for signings, just pick and choose one or two cherry on the top signings because we can rather than need to.
I’ll believe it when I see it, but he’s a monster player who is take in a heartbeat. And considering we’ve already addressed the other vulnerable position on the wing, I wouldn’t be crying if we paid a lot for one of the best CMs in the world
China
I doubt we’d get an option to buy, but we didn’t have one with Ode either. Best we can hope for is maybe first refusal.
Read that he’s an Arsenal fan so getting him on loan and giving him some love can’t be a bad thing if Real decides to buy more midfielders in the summer.
Freddie
No, I think it’s a pipe dream, like someone is playing football manager..
Nice to hear Un cheering for Big Gabs and giving him credit.
Other people here watch one YouTube compilation and declare the new guy a better player, passer, whatever.
Gabs is so underrated as a few here have said. It’s only because there are some moronic opinions here against him.
He’s probably the biggest part of our defensive success this season. Great team player. Look how he pushes up when we need a goal, and he’s adds steel for sure.
Diss,
Why a pipe dream? We signed 2 players in the last 2 days.
A loan makes a lot of sense. The kid is not playing much, RM want to get him up to speed or sell. We have the cash.
Nobody here should be stating anything about Murdyk. He’s a big potential because of that pace, but will be in bad circumstances trying to adapt at Chelsea, with other expensive players, fans and owner with no patience to help him adjust.
Even the current and future managers won’t have time to be able to bring him along the way Arteta (the forward whisperer) would have.
He never would have helped us the way that Trossard will through the run in.
As Pedro would say, Trossard not a sexy signing for us, but much more useful.
Un
January 20, 2023 20:51:30
Sweet Jesus that girl luteo….. 😳
>>>>
My thoughts exactly Un. Holy moly.
The way I see it Carnavinga would be cover/rotation for Partey and Xhaka until the summer when we go for Rice. But seeing as Chrksea, Utd, Liverpool and City will probably all bid for him too, if we can get Carnavinga on loan he may then be who we turn to if Chelsea go Al FM manager mode again.
Diss when you have a chance the get Camavinga in you don’t complain you say YES YES A THOUSAND TIMES YES! You pay whatever fee and get him in. Worry about what Real Madrid thinks after he’s on the dot com in red and white. If it relegates Xhaka to the bench so be it. It’s a team sport and when you get a chance to strengthen with arguably the best young CM on the planet. There’s a reason there’s MAD in REAL MADRID. They are always mad to let some of their stars go and they will do it… Read more »
Un,
This is the stupidity I’m talking about… (not from you) … I’m just responding to your question.
People who have barely seen a guy play in another country, but say he’s better than an excellent player like Gabriel, who we watch every minute of every game for us.
WTF are they basing that on?
What they’ve heard about him? Seen on youtube compilations. What a joke.
Get some knowledge, watch a lot of full games before you start saying someone is better than our guys.
Marko,
Who are you kidding?
you watching lots of Frankfurt games?
You’re a liar if you say that you do. ..
….just stick to your YouTube scouting.
Dissenter,
It’s certainly a stretch in January but might not be a complete pipe dream. There have been rumours for a while about RM going for Bellingham in the summer. Considering that they like experience, surely that’s at least one youngster too many in the midfield? Tchou is ahead of Camavinga in the pecking order.
Dissenter, Did you get that I said the scouting on Kiwior is good on almost every aspect except that one? Good pace once he gets going, long strides and long legs for good tackling. Good in the air. Good long passing. But needs time on the ball for that. Very good in positional awareness too. This is the gist of 2 scouting reports I listened to. Not my own opinion. Not being good against the press, and not agile, may be ok in Serie A, but deadly for a DM in the premier league. Let’s make a deal, OK? Let’s… Read more »
I’m not criticising the buy of Kiwior, I hear lots of good teams were interested.
I’m saying he’s a CB, and lots of people assuming he can play DM. I heard he can’t.
I hope he can play both, but don’t jump to the conclusion that he can.
Obviously Madrid are a bigger club with a bigger draw but players like cama could be ideal. Elite level and possibly disillusioned with life at real. Meanwhile as aide has shown the grass is sometimes greener elsewhere and with us being in the title race, this is a much smaller step down than it would’ve been a year or two ago where we’d have been laughed at for asking
Madrid fans online saying they’re not deep enough to let Camavinga go out on loan. Would be great if we could get him though. I’m not getting my hopes too high.
He apparently played DM loads for spezia already
Most of his first season there.
Whether or not he can backup partey is another question entirely, but is he a legit DM? By all accounts yes. As well we have to consider parteys backup might not be equally good. If he’s a better DM than el Neny, our midfield squad depth will have been improved with his arrival. To me it’s that simple
Nigel you don’t know me. I do watch plenty of bundesliga football and Frankfurt have been a particularly good watch this season.
The difference between Ode and Cama is that Odegaard was coming ti start an Arsenal.
Maybe Cama will see the transformation of Odegaard and want to come to join the party.
I just can’t see Ancelotti sanctioning this move
If you don’t ask you don’t get. Being linked to a Camvinga is awesome. Rich must be well excited. If we get him that’s a bonus. If we don’t move on.
This is Arsenal by the way you’re not being guaranteed anything unless you prove yourself.
How can Camaxinga be cover for Xhaka and Partey when he’s 10x better than Xhaka and can seamlessly replace Partey?
And why is he cover for them till we get RICE when he’s heads and shoulders better than Rice and will probably cost less and he’s younger?
IF we’re getting Cama it should be with option or preferably obligation to buy, and he should be coming in straight to replace Xhaka and play in place of Partey when he’s injured or needs a rest.
IF we get CAMAVINGA he’ll absolutely be the jewel in our midfield.
Anyone think trossard could be subbed in for xhaka at times, not just primarily in the forward line?
I am actually keen as to see that, martinelli and trossard would destroy opposing right defences
Goober
100% I see Trossard playing left 8.
My guess is trossard will be subbed on to wing if we are losing, and marti or Saka aren’t effective, but for xhaka if it is even and our wingers are making headway. In his first outings at least. If we are winning it will be for the heavier legs. It will be devastating having ode Saka on one wing and trossard Marti on the other. But the versatility of trossard is a big bonus, that’s for sure. Having that pl pedigree already under his belt, he gives a lot of our players a breather without really disrupting our rhythm.… Read more »
WW,
He plays as a 2nd striker and false 9 even, I think he could play the Jesus role pretty well too.
He will bridge the attacking gap in our play around the box xhaka has mega improved on but still isn’t quite at the level we really need.
I’m stoked with this
Bob N16
Robbie Williams younger brother 🤣😂🤣😂
Camavinga is a prize so good I don’t even wanna start imagining it for fear of being let down.
One thing that makes me wonder is why the loudest and most obnoxious one here never posts during the games, but is always here post-game critiquing the opinions of others.
How a person can choose to come here and beef with others on a daily basis is so weird to me.
God help who has to interact with such a person on a daily basis
I’m not sure a cell Otto will get a say on this
He doesn’t on player signings so may not on outgoings
Anyway I’m assuming nothing. But camavinga trossard and the polish lad whose name I will eventually learn is beyond anything I expected or asked for in Jan. I’m happy with trossard. Very happy with the new CB/DM, camavinga would be an unreal addition on top
Ancellotti**
“IF we get CAMAVINGA he’ll absolutely be the jewel in our midfield.“
A thoroughly solid prediction
Carma is a perfect fit for PL. He is extremely resilient. No amount tackles rattle him. Get him!!!!
The thing is arsenal as a club are willing to develop this kind of player and let them iron out their rough edges in the first team, like Saka, Martinelli, ode and saliba. Real eat young players alive. He would be much more appreciated with us and can develop better imo. But anyway this is all speculation. One can dream tho… Like I said the reason why it’s different this time tho is that any such player would be joining us for a title race. That’s a completely different offer from years gone by when we’d be selling players on… Read more »
Trossard needs to be used as 9 against ManU. Arsenal cannot let Manu go unpunished for spoiling out unbeaten season so far. Let it be a 3 – 0 win tomorrow. COYG!!!
Naija
“Kiwior looks like a younger, faster Granit Xhaka(that’s not saying much hehe). Looks good with tackles, interceptions and looks like a good game reader. Can see him playing in midfield”
I had a good laugh when you compared him to xhaka and then said he looks good with tackles and interceptions
Our whole forward line make more tackles than xhaka, and yes that is because we play on the front foot with very high pressing line from our forwards, but still says a hell of a lot about xhaka when white and especially partey our top tacklers this season. In terms of interceptions, xhaka is behind Saka, where partey and Gabi mags are top for us. Ball recoveries Willy Saliba is ahead of even Rambo, where keepers are generally top of that list. Where only rodri is ahead. That would be xhakas best defensive stat for sure. But considering ode and… Read more »
Sure Marko, I believe you watch a lot of Frankfurt.
So full of shite.
* where only rodri is ahead in terms of outfield players*
I’m so ready for the man Utd game
Wish it would come sooner. Let’s gooooo
China it’s 330am again on a bloody Monday morning before work. I watched the Tottenham game as live because it was my first day back that Monday morning, but this one I think I’m up for waking up for it and just continuing on after. I’ll be absolutely fired up either way so good way to start a day I reckon hahaha. If we win I’m buzzing all day, if we lose I’m scathing. Either way I’ll be wide awake at work. Good substitute for a coffee haha. It’s just not as good as live. I love having the in… Read more »
I doubt we see Trossard this weekend. But who knows
Goober were you at bro? Half past midnight kick off in China. You’re in aus?
Also it’s lunar new year so I’m not back at work until Thursday!!
Let’s gooooooo
As for chatting here during the game, sometimes I’m on it other times I don’t bother
Actually goober you must be NZ? Aus should be 2h ahead of me
And yeah I can’t watch most of those late games.
I work 50-60h a week and my job is mad tiring and stressful. Plus have a 6 year old so have to save energy for him and the Mrs
If I watch those latest games I literally feel ill the next couple of days. But given the size of these games and given our position it’s increasingly hard to say no. This Utd game is a must watch regardless of me being on holiday
Un calling Nigel a Karen is a seriously hilarious bit of commentary… I love legrove
Also, raulishuss, we agree on something for a change in regards to trossard being played in xhakas spot haha.
Sorry just catching up with the comments section after a few beers
Camavinga has started quite a lot recently for Madrid, no way they’ll loan him to us unless they’ve spotted a replacement that they think’s better.
Oh the Camavinga rumors are dying down as fast as they started. No worries though.
I hope we can line up another loan deal for older players that are better than Elneny. I would wonder if a team like Real betis would accept a loan offer for someone like William Carvalho. Most la Liga clubs are strapped for cash. So may be give them a high loan fee for their 30 year old and they might accept that for 6 months. They might see value on it.
Oh shit, Betis are in 6th in La Liga. Lol that idea is dead before I even thought of it. 😂😂😂
China1, yeah, after relocation, i find those late Arsenal games very taxing ,starting 2 , 3 or at times 4am in Asia time zone. That said, I wouldn’t miss watching live. The dilemma then becomes staying up till 2am (or 4am!) or setting the alarm clock but fearing 😨 I sleep thru it ..hahaha….
…and hate business trips to stateside where finding live broadcast in /around hotels has been tough
Useroz I totally feel you.
It’s either stay up til all hours, or try to set an alarm.
Makes it very hard the latter option when you have someone else in the bed haha.
The former option was never a trouble while I was a raging youth, but nowadays with proper responsibilities fuck I struggle staying up til 2am for kickoff, watching the game, and then doing anything of note the next day 😂
I’m only 30 as well haha
Also have to redress my statement before.
Rice well top of recoveries for outfield players, then rodri, then Saliba.
Saliba in quality company
Watched a Trossard YT clip and observe a few things * quite pacy, at least over 15, 20 yards * very good ball control in/around the box * calm in the box and unfazed with tackles * good shots from left, right a d center , on both feet .. apparently scored more with his weaker foot 🤭 * quite physical despite 5’8″ and size Of course, clip shows his highlights and not blunders etc but if Arteta gets consistency out of Trossard, we have a pretty good signing to mixing it up and just strengthen the bench. Playing with… Read more »
Yeah guys
I’m 33 years old with old being the key word
The late games are rubbish. If you watch them and we don’t win it’s really the worst of the worst
Goober, am over 30 unfortunately.
Almost 90% of the time I stay up till kick off, always enough work to keep me awake but just tiring
This season, and hopefully more to come, makes up for it though
I am 50 and ill tell you what tired really is….
China, sorry mate, missed the comments before.
I’m in Melbourne. A few degrees off longitude of Beijing, haha not sure exactly in china where you are. But the time zone is a weird bent structure that’s for sure.
Useroz, so you’re in china also ? Where are you from originally?
I agree with you though, the quality The Arsenal has provided this season has been something worth the pain the next day.
Whatever the age the passion doesn’t alter
Guns, you have a new lease on life. I’m coming to San Fran to get you out and about
And I say that with all respect. I know it would have been terribly difficult to go through what you have been, especially with kids.
But while joking around, get some MD/lsd and get into it 🤣🤣🤣
Also china, agree wholeheartedly haha. Staying up to a piece of shit loss, drags the mood down for the week really.
Luteo guen…
I get it she’s hot.
But not everyone wants an absolute floozy as a partner haha. Man I’d hate to be kiwior
I’d hate to be him in the fact he’s a professional earning lots of moolah yet his missus still needs attention from everyone else to seem relevant.
Fuck social medias influence
Love sausage
“Luteo,Mudryk did it better.”
Absolutely best comment of the post so far 😂😂😂😂
I’m totally with dissenter, he’s not going to shine at Chelsea. He will be their Pepe
Also, sorry everyone with the spam, there was some football chat in there I swear
Why are there posters still being negative about Xhaka? Arteta has changed his role in the team and
frankly he has been excellent this season.
It is highly unlikely that either Partey or Xhaka will be removed from starting in games so long as they stay fit.
Frankly I doubt that the Camavinga story has merit. I watched Barcelona v Real Madrid playing in
the Gulf on Sky. Barcelona with a youthful midfield completely outplayed Real Madrid’s old guard.
So I doubt that this story has any merit particularly since RM have a small squad.
Fans need to understand that Arteta loves xhaka and starts him every game and never subs him off unless the game is over. He has started all 18 league games this season , played the full 90 minutes in 15 , came off early through sickness against wolves and was subbed off against forest 5-0 and Bournemouth 3-0.. This tells me that no midfielder is coming in to replace xhaka, even to replace him as substitute, not this season anyway., and to be honest why would anyone want to tinker with our midfield in the league games as their on… Read more »
Wth te troubles of Juventus would it be cheeky to tempt Vlahovic or Locatelli again. Also what’s the ban on Spurs DOF actually entails. Can anyone throw light on this please.
Pedro – would it be possible to provide comment # for each comment. Kind of hard to keep track due to the no of comments everytime you refresh the page.
Goober
Company moved me to Hong Kong, was from. Melbourne, 5+ years ago…
If I move to Asia I will have to bear your comments re match time in mind. I live nr London so don’t have these issues but it is a factor of emigrating albeit briefly. I’m 61 so have a lot of cheaper countries in mind for retirement (possibly living for a year in different ones
But I would miss the football and no way could I survive until 2am – 4am watching it live twice a week
I don’t think the Camavinga story is likely sadly – just can’t see RM agreeing it . There would be no chance of an option to buy and without that I might find it a bit annoying we’re helping RM to develop him
I had that sense with Odegaard but we got lucky with him – no way would RM make the same mistake twice
Kiwior is a simp, the more pics she takes without clothes, the more c*cks in her mouth.
I can’t see any reason for Real Madrid loaning such a gem. He has played in 26 games in all competitions this season including 16 in the league. It’s not like he is surplus to their needs.
Like the Camavinga story but probably too good to be true…
Northbanker, welcome to Cyprus. Just two hours difference, good Arsenal following, great weather, great beer!
Guem
It does seem unlikely, but simple fact of the matter is that he has only started 5 games this season in la liga. Neither he nor Jonathan Barnett will be happy with that. If Madrid think they can get Bellingham this summer, based on discussions, would say it increases likelihood much more. We can but hope and pray…
Real Madrid have only 23 registered players and their two main midfielders are Modric and Kross
both in mid thirties. I cannot see them loaning out one of their younger midfielders.
For the record the New Bernebau Stadium is likely to be completed in March 2023. It looks an
impressive stadium and far grander than that of Spurs.
I suspect that we will see a lot of stadia improvements coming in the next decade with actual and
potential new owners for Man Utd, Newcastle and Chelsea
Sid
You come across like an incel
No red blooded single male is gonna turn down a body like that, doesnt mean he’s having a family with her
He’s 22
Also, just because she shows off her body, didn’t make her a sl*t
Plenty of examples of dancers and models who were not like that at all.
I was dating a girl who was on babe station and she was almost like a nun. Barley drank. Didn’t do drugs. Smart. Softly spoken. Not what I expected at all from someone who did that as a job
Wicked Willy, I got my stats from Wikipedia and it doesn’t separate starting and substitutions. Anyhow I wish it materialises because I rate him highly.
How many clubs are interested in Tielemans?
He shows flashes of brilliance but can’t be relied upon.
He is not good enough to wipe Xhaka’
Useroz ‘company moved me to HK’
You say it like it’s a chore. HK is bloody brilliant! Been about 4 times and like shanghai never tire of it. Wonderful place. Tianjin (where I am) is good but can’t compete with those two cities. Prefer TJ to Beijing tho…
Un
Lol which one?
Yes Un, which one?
Lads
Come on. I’m not telling you. It was only a few dates
Nothing serious.
She wasn’t one of the prominent ones and she was only on there for a year but she said a lot of the other girls were damaged, especially the ones who did porn.
My point is that she most definitely was not the promiscuous type. She was more like a librarian.
Come on Un… Don’t hold out on us now
Guem. I was in Cyprus a few months ago and loved it. Doesn’t compete with living costs in the likes of Vietnam and Costa Rica