Well good morning.
Are you all ok dealing with the fact Emi Martinez won a World Cup? I’m not.
Honestly, his performance was outrageous, that save at the end of extra time was special, and his penalty saves are top, top drawer.
But Emi?
I can’t man.
Imagine getting to the top of the game, winning a golden glove, then posing with it 1) Like it’s an erection you are massaging 2) Like the thumb is also erection and you put it close to your face in a suggestive manner. It’s like he was hammered in Kavos hanging with Hen Party accouterments.
‘but he won the World Cup, he won’t care’
Sure, but imagine that being your photographic legacy? A little bit classless.
Messi taking the win was special though. He truly is a freak of the game. People say we’ll never see his like again, yes, we will… but my what a journey he’s been on. He fully deserves that moment.
The bisht (robe)? Honestly man, I cannot listen to all these righteous bores saying ‘it’s culture, educate yourself.’ Like something being ‘cultural’ immediately makes it absolutely fine regardless of occassion. Messi lifting the cup and the surprise introduction of a cultural robe of another country was distasteful. That was Argentina’s moment, not another opportunity for the host nation to remind us they were in fact the host nation. Amazing how many people that were quiet on human rights prior and during the World Cup are quite happy to take massive offence to questions around the bisht, happily calling people a whole slew of -phobes and -isms. But you know why I rest easy? The picture of the World Cup that will be iconic will be Messi on the shoulders of his teammates. That’ll be the reference image that goes in museums. It’s also worth correcting everyone citing Pele wearing a sombrero… that was not gifted by a head of state, it was gifted by a fan. No head of state has ever put something over a player about to lift a World Cup.
As for the World Cup? I mean, it was a good one, and the nation of Qatar should be commended for it. It wasn’t Fyre Island. Very few people got in trouble. There was literally no controversy.
Mainly, I think, because there weren’t a lot of real fans there. But whatever, Qatar had their moment, the football was really fun and engaging, and I think the Sportswashing 100% did the job in the end. People know what Qatar is now and they’ve certainly softened its reputation globally.
I knew things were returning to normal when Gary Neville, right at the end of the hefty tournament contract, used his extremely well-paid platform to return to ‘concerned man of the people.’
‘I don’t always agree with Gary, but I agree with him’
It’s so painful that people let him get away with it. It is what it is.
Now for serious Arsenal stuff.
Arsenal Admin saying ‘Our Wilo’ on main makes me dry heave. Just call him Big Bill or something. ‘Our Wilo’ sounds like a wounded baby rabbit in a 1950s Disney movie, desperately searching out his mother in the cold of winter when reality dawns, our Wilo’s mother has been caught by the farmer’s wife and sadly, she is in the pie on the window ledge.
Drives me up the wall.
‘Big Bill Saliba, World Cup runner-up, total ledge, see you in N5 son’ would be far more fitting.
Arsenal lost to Juventus. Reading around some of the nonsense after has been painful.
‘3 months of Eddie!’
‘Arsenal not good enough outside first team’
Give it a rest. 19 shots on goal vs their 2. We lost on two own goals. It was just one of those evenings that people have to prepare themselves for in H2 of the season.
As for Eddie. He had the ball in the net twice. Hit the post. Had 5 shots. Completed 2 key passes. By any standard, that is a decent contribution. There are so many people really keen that he fails. This feels a little like the fans who thought Ben White was too short to be good for Arsenal and that we should have invested elsewhere.
Get it right about strikers… they miss chances. The key is to not get down about it. Eddie missed an open goal AFTER he pressed Juve into a mistake. You’d rather your striker miss chances than not be in a position to have them. He’ll be good this next part of the season.
My bigger worry is that Tomi has a hamstring injury again.
Zinchenko breaks down a lot for a player that hasn’t played a lot over the past few years.
ESR isn’t going to be ready for West Ham.
I really would like to see all three of those stay fit for the next 3 months because I think all of them will be essential to our H2 success.
There is good news on Gabi J, rumours Arsenal expect him back for Leicester. I think the club is likely to leak later just to avoid disappointment, so hopefully, we get a surprise early return… maybe Man City?
Right, we’ve got a week until our first game. Proper football can return. Let’s GO!
“Samesong
December 20, 2022 08:58:02
Look at Izzo post didn’t have to call anyone a clown. Didn’t kiss anyone’s arse. Just a reasonable opinion. Didn’t imply he is a better fan than others. Didn’t call any of our players crap or management.”
Amen brother. And obviously kudos to Izzo.
Dan – entiendo lo que dices, pero el punto es que nadie del equipo, los medios o la gente de arengentina han dicho nada sobre este evento. Si no tienen ninguna objeción, entonces, ¿quiénes somos nosotros para decir algo? Mi amigo, dejemos esto, no estaremos de acuerdo, pero al menos podemos tratar de entender el otro lado.
Dissenter — Players seek out each other and choose to swap shirts. That logic in no way extends a to a head of state draping a garment over top of your shirt right before you can lift the trophy. You can’t say no to it, that would be rude.
“Neville isn’t a lefty, he’s just your typical vain, virtue signalling twat, another champagne socialist …”
Rich – Neville very much is a lefty and you can tell by how you described him. Who are these genius lefties that are hiding while fake ones take over? Left wing types are so far up their own arses they are french kissing themselves. Comparing working conditions of Qatar/UK and claim they are same is an argument only a lefty would make.
Agree with Rich and Sid Jesus has a short shelf life – you can’t play football at 100mph for an extended period and if we get the chance of a big sale later on we should seriously consider it The fact of being in the CL and the spotlight that goes with it is that your players at the top fetch bigger premiums so more money in the coffers than ever. We need to get the timing right on all of our players as far as possible while we keep buying at bargain prices Dortmund have made a virtue of… Read more »
I didn’t watch the trophy award ceremony at the end of the WCF but I did wonder what on Earth Messi was wearing when I saw the news later that evening, to me it looked a bit odd, but if it was a gift from the Arabic hosts and it meant something in their culture then fine, Messi didn’t look too bothered in fact he seemed to go through the whole game with a smile on his face. I’ve never bought into the hype around him tbh but he does come across as a decent fella so good for him.… Read more »
Vale, lo dejamos 🤝
Sid, Jesus is forever!
Yes, I’m waiting for Jesus to arise from the treatment table and save our season.
How could Messi have been offended when he’s already making £25 million for being the ambassador for the Saudi Tourism agency.
Qatar was dragged at the beginning of the world cup for none football issues and dragged at the end of the world cup for another none football issues when in reality what brought Qatar in the whole discourse is football.
Argentina and Messi won after so many tries since 1986 and all some people could see is bisht, personally I saw Messi and his countrymen/women jubilating winning world cup for the third time.
Didn’t Pedro and his podcasting buddies claim that all the anti-Qatar articles before world cup were islamophobia? I was surprised by today article claiming Arabs doing something traditional is problematic because Messi seemed to have no problem with the robe.
The more the Overton window moves to the right the more angry the Right become, No one who voted for God , Boris , Brexit and 300m per month , week , day whatever for the NHS should be unhappy. You’ve had 12 years of having all your political desires catered for . Priti , Suella , Boris anti wokeism , The most brilliant budget in history courtesy of Kwasi and his lover Truss. Even good old Moggy . You’ve had it all given to you . Yet you’re still angry and red in the face as a slab of… Read more »
claim that all the anti-Qatar articles before world cup were islamophobia? There might have been some but the vast majority of criticism towards the Qatar world cup was justified and backed by facts and a good knock out stages and incredible final doesn’t change that. Besides it’s not about Qatar it’s always been about FIFA and their practices their greed and corruption. Basically if they don’t allow countries like that to host a world cup they would inevitably clean up their acts in the future. I’m talking about the migrant workers side of things and not the bigotry side of… Read more »
Here here Marko
Thanks for ‘uncommon valley’ mention the other day, Markymark. I found it very interesting, I’ve had it for as long as I remember.
Markymark Had never heard of the Overton Window, thanks for enlightening me. I would argue that it has concertinered in both directions. The centre ground has fallen out of favour somewhat and more extreme views on both wings have become more expedient, but are driven by the politics of division and hence why all of these rather unedifying politicians have come crawling out of the woodwork and gained greater voice. The left see the RW policies and shriek that we are lurching right, whilst the RW see the left cultural agenda gaining momentum and are shrieking in fear that there… Read more »
He cried out, “Eloi Eloi Lama Sabachthani,” when his knee got injured.
WickedW, sadly true. The need to feel that you are right means, creates a sense that others have to be wrong to reinforce your position.
My ‘overview’ is that there more decent people in the world, kind and considerate to others, than those people who are driven by self interest.. However, just as with ‘common sense’ , one person’s view of what define’s a ‘ decent’ human varies from the next person, and so it goes on!
Spot with that discourse WickedW. Basically we are seeing an accelerated decline of the post Ww2 society model, into what I am not sure but it is not going to be good for us or the planet
Arsenal journo on twitter –
I’m told Arsenal will play Luton Town tomorrow in a behind closed doors friendly.
I have a concern about Eddie, not necessarily in his performance, but what do we do if HE gets injured
whether or not you are happy with Eddie we definitely reinforcements in that position
When the league resumes it will be like the beginning of the season.
Teams will finding their way again and there will be some odd results.
Most teams will have a full squad so we must win the first game to pick up form again.
If we struggle to get going we will soon be caught up and loose confidence.
Hope ESR can keep injury free because he will just become the next JW.
Bob
You ever done the Myers-Briggs 16 personality test?….
My biggest beef about the host country issue is that thee was near proof (accept this is a fine line ) that the draws for Russia and Qatar were fixed
The corruption scandal brought down Blatter and his cronies and yet FIFA made no attempt to undo it. FIFA Russia and Qatar were all complicit one would assume but no enquiry and both allowed to host
Wicked Willy – great points well made. If you have time listen to the Coming Storm on BBC podcasts . The narrator though dealing mainly with Right Wing conspiracy QAnon nut jobs . Actually feels traditional Right and Left labelling is unhelpful. It’s far more fringe against centre. Funny enough Moggy’s dad co wrote a book called the Sovereign Man ( or title similar) predicting the collapse of Democracy with counter information being expounded as loudly as anything by the BBC or NBC. Considering this was pre internet or at least very early internet it’s extremely accurate including ideas around… Read more »
Alex Crook reporting that Fulham are close to sealing a deal for Cedric
Also Wolves close to signing Cunha.
Wicked Willy – I’ll leave the rest to the football as this is what this forum is all about
The cooking like Lobster comment is so similar to the World in the 1930’s. Guess what happens next !
Soares seems very much on his way to Fulham – sounds like we have a benign trading environment with them.
I suspect we may have a bonkers window with everyone bar Mbappe being linked and two Names coming our way.
Come here to read about AFC and what do I find, a discourse on the human condition and an analysis of the global state of affairs, which are very accurate in my lousy estimation. Sell Jesus in less than 18 months, if Tomi, ESR, Partey and Tierney can’t lock down an injury free run of games with proper load management, than offload their astronomical salaries too. Better to sell at the right before the apex than continue to go bankrupt bo making offers like the one Auba got and moved out on with a huge loss and write off. Edu,… Read more »
MarkyMark If you’re listening to the BBC, then you’re going to be desperately misinformed, the BBC is the state funded propaganda machine of the establishment. It’s London centric location, means the BBC is left leaning. The rest of the MSM isn’t about reporting the news, it’s about target demographics, advertising revenue, click bait, subscriptions + confirmation bias. Here’s how the MSM swings in this country: Guardian-left wing + pro EU Independent – centre left + pro EU Daily Mirror – left wing + pro EU Sun – Right wing + pro Brexit Telegraph – Centre right + pro Brexit Times… Read more »
@Dark Hei Muani was available for a FREE in the summer not 30mill, get it!!! Sign Muani on 30k a week and show Eddie the door because he wouldn’t sign a contract and hopefully the fucking door will not hit him as he leaves. @Serge “Eddie who has Arsenal dna and played great given a run last year,” WTF does that even mean Arsenal DNA does that get you points in the table, didn’t know that? Eddie had a purple patch last season and couldn’t score in the games he needed to. Southampton a 1:0 loss where was his goal… Read more »
I see everyone is looking forward to Arsenal play again.
I’m not here is how I picture it going > we will 100% go on a huge losing streak and if Jesus isn’t back in 3 months we end season in fifth.
Frankly it is remarkable that a 26 year old goalkeeper…
Frankly I can understand his frustration when Arteta…
Frankly I would like to congratulate him…
AS’s gay for someone named Frank.
Rich I listen to a variety of podcasts and broadcasts from the BBC to Fox News. I get a variety of feed including the Telegraph daily on Ukraine ( the best I feel ). I’m a regular reader of Conservative Home. The Coming Storm is a good overall podcast on the rise of QAnon and conspiracy theory in general the narrator talks about his own rabbit hole he’s pretty central and impartial If you want left wing (I don’t believe you do ) listen to I don’t Speak German – that’s radical , if you want on the Front line… Read more »
I would argue that is a prime example of the rightward movement of the Overton Window that the BBC is regularly portrayed as having constant left wing bias.
Mick Lynch vehemently disagrees! 😂
Rich – ‘Campaigner”. Just did it. Any particular reason why you asked?
Rich
The sun blows with the wind man
And the mail isn’t right wing
Just another globalist mouth piece masquerading as a conservative news source
Revved everyone up when covid was in its infancy and printed lies through out
The msm are the enemy of the people
It’s why faith in their coverage is lower than 30% now
All
Of them are owned by the same 6 companies
There is no left and right in mainstream
There is no impartiality
There is very little integrity
An even less honesty
They are a rung below politicians now
RichDecember 20, 2022 16:18:09
BobYou ever done the Myers-Briggs 16 personality test?….
😂
What are you rich? You gonna tell us your love language next? 😝
MD you can’t judge muani on 60 mins of football you have seen him play you can judge Eddie as he scores when he gets a run, I would not swap the two, not saying Eddie is the real deal just saying Muani is not the answer because he is taller
Yes he did miss a sitter if he used his head instead if hitting it first time to the right where there was less space to hit the target France would have won, he had no composure that’s does not cut it in the prem,
Reports Martinelli has agreed a new contract until 2027.
Very good news if accurate.
Where are you seeing this Topside?
Looking at our attacking options that arent injured, I hope Marquinhos has his big boy pants on this month because thats all we got. And Vieira most likely will have to play on the wing as I doubt Saka and Marti and Eddie will play every minute of every game for the next month
Surely we have somebody lined up early in January to do otherwise would be negligent beyond words
We’re definitely getting a player or two in during January.
The Martinelli contract news is coming out of Spain. Stories that Barca have dropped their interest as Gabi is about to put pen to paper.
Yep its on the internet feed yahoo, daily mail, etc … not the most reliable but they are saying a 3 year extension until 2027.
MarkyMark Maybe QAnon were onto something with a pedophile Island for the Elite. They can find Saddam Hussain in a ditch in Iraq, they can find Bin Laden in the hills of Pakistan. But they can’t find Epstein’s client list?….. Give me a break….. You might be willing to look the other way, but if some of us have to be labelled conspiracy theorists to be asking the right questions, I’ll wear that badge with honour. The left to right wing pendulum, would obviously be dependant on where each person would consider the centre, and that would be dependant on… Read more »
Totalitarianism is coming home! They are suffering the tyranny that their ruling classes has supported abroad.
Arsenal blog not a right v left or liberal v conservative site, keep it on topic 😆
So Rich – you are saying you are Far Right. Ok I’ll leave you with that unhappy bunch. You seem to be agreeing that across a spectrum people would label you that
Looks like you took the Pills and are off down the Rabbit hole
Onto football particularly Arsenal
Rich you are an idiot
Un’s Meyer’s Brigg is CTNU. Whoops I mean CUNT. And his love language is xenophobia.
Well said Rich, wouldn’t label you as far right.
Is there anyone excited about possible signings this coming January?
Some absolutely bizarre takes on here but selling our best player in Jesus in prime age has to be up there as one of the worst I have seen.
Were people not watching 35 year old Messi lift the World Cup? Or 37 year old Modric starring in it?
27 is only old at Arsenal it seems. We’re never going to get our hands on the PL again without some experience and veteran nous blended in with our youth, many on here just don’t seem to get it and are more concerned on KSE’s coffers it seems.
Very weird.
Selling your best player is also the mark of a small club. It sends out a strong message.
I’m excited Same because it’s pretty much a given that we have to bring in attackers given Nelson, ESR, and Jesus are all injured or not ready for an indefinite time frame And surely we will attract good players given we are 5 points clear at the top. And Im always more exited about goal scorers then defensive players…. no offense to defensive players
Bob
I thought being a teacher you’d have been interested in it, it’s now used in a lot of different industries in the private sector.
The profiles are eerily accurate.
Once you understand where the pendulum swings from :
Introverted to extroverted
Intuitive to observant
Thinking to feeling
Judging to prospecting
Assertive to turbulent
The way people act + think, and where their political ideology develops from, starts making much more sense.
Not surprised you came back as ENFP being a teacher.
WE, Will take those comments directed towards a few on here including myself. It is called a business. Selling often injured players at their apex is smart business. Please go back an check how many games Modric and Messi have missed in their entire careers, bet it’s less than a few on our team who have plaved less than 2-3 years with us. Obviously, there has to be a blend of youth and experience, no one is denying that, but letting Laca, Auba, Ozil, etc go for basically $0 or paying them to leave is beyond amateurish business. AFC should… Read more »
”Selling often injured players at their apex is smart business.”
Aaron, what has this got to do with selling Jesus? Who isn’t an often injured player. In fact, he has made 40+ apps in every full season since he signed for City in 2017.
”but letting Laca, Auba, Ozil, etc go for basically $0 or paying them to leave is beyond amateurish business. AFC should have sold them way earlier or extended them, if not then trade them.”
That was our fault for handing them out such ridiculous contracts. 350k a week in Ozil and Auba’s cases.
Who in their right mind would want to take on those sums for 30+ year old players who have been out of form for years? Nobody of course, which is why we basically had to end up paying them off.
Not at all comparable to selling Jesus.
Can we at least win the League first before we start talking about selling off the players who got us there? ……killjoy factor is out of control. I think Weagle;s point is valid too many accountants and wanna be Football Ceo’s Dude hasnt even finished one season with us yet and we are plotting his downfall
The question with Jesus, is how long is his style of play sustainable? Once he loses what makes him special, which is his high energy + combative style, can he adapt his game?… And would his evolving skill set, be worth adapting our pressing game for? I’d say a firm no to both those questions, that means we need to dump our stock before it drops. Only 10-12 clubs in the world can afford to match the wages he’s on, once we miss our window to sell him, the clubs that can afford to pay him, won’t want him, and… Read more »
I think that you massively underrate Jesus’ technical qualities Rich. Ask Pep his opinion on Jesus as a footballer.
The way you are speaking on him you would think he is a Walcott or Aubameyang regen.
His dribbling ability, intelligence and movement is all elite. He isn’t the best finisher but unlike 95% of top strikers, he actually creates for himself as well as others.
He will still be able to press at 27/28, Jesus Christ unless he is secretly living like R9/Ronaldinho and burning the candle at both ends.
It’s actually bordering on insulting to read people wanting us to sell Jesus who has been our best player in our best ever start to a season and who is fundamental to the mentality shift we have seen this season.
Imagine being daft enough to compare selling him in his prime to selling 30s+ Laca, Auba or Ozil who were all stagnating shite by the end, come on Aaron do better than that ffs.
WE I think he can play at the top level until 29/30, at which point I think he’ll regress rapidly. 27 would likely be our last window to sell him for good money, clear his wages, and refresh our forward line. Pep’s opinion on Jesus was he is the best defensive forward in the world, I love Jesus, I wanted us to try and sign him before we were linked, he makes our team much better. If we keep him until 30, then I’d just be a bit concerned around the last year of the 5 we’re committed for. At… Read more »
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”I think he can play at the top level until 29/30, at which point I think he’ll regress rapidly.” Based on what Rich, out of interest? Regress rapidly is a very emphatic statement, what is that backed-up by? The idea that any player who utilises mobility being washed up by 29/30 is so outdated it is humorous to still read this kind of stuff. Do you think that Liverpool have been affected by selling Sadio Mane? Who was, how old? 30. As Midwest succinctly put it, let’s not plan on shitcanning our star 25 year old performer just yet, fuck… Read more »
Real Madrid team that won this year’s CL title:
Courtois- 30
Carvajal- 30
Militao- 24
Alaba- 30
Mendy- 27
Casemiro- 30
Kroos- 32
Modric- 37
Valverde- 24
Vinicius Jr- 22
Benzema- 34
7 of those would have been called to be sold years ago on here…
We have about 4 years to worry about Jesus stuff…….. Hell Arteta might not even be here anymore and we will be playing a differnt style?,,, who knows .
, On the other hand We need to make a decision on Loko in months not years as we need to upgrade the position asap. Those are the decisions that matter to me not so much squad planning in the year 2027
WE
That’s a stupid example, that’s not a team designed to press, it’s a possession based team.
Which player there is even remotely similar in style to Jesus?…
If you don’t understand the difference between Modric playing at 37, and Jesus’s style at 30, then theres no value in having this conversation.
Rich like Pierre is obsessed with loading the team with young players refusing to accept that you need quality experienced players in the team. Rich keeps referring to Laca and Auba but fails to address how shit they were before they were canned and trust me it wasn’t their age that made them shit it was their mentality and overall ability. Look at Modric and Benzema still putting out high-quality performances at an elite level. Jesus is no Auba he’s more on the elite side of things and will continue to produce even into his 30s.
Just look at how Pierre is dropping Eddie stats with his goals scored. Omitting the fact the goals are non-premier league goals. of course, they want to add the fact Jesus isn’t scoring but refuse to acknowledge his assists and chance creations. Fortunately, some of us with eyes and brain cells see through their empty analysis.
Are you having a laugh Rich? I think you are the one incapable of ubderstanding this theme.
What team did Jesus start for over the last 5 years? Over Sergio Aguero at times, an elite ST.
I’ll give you a hint, they like to keep possession..
@izzo
Since we are at selective stats for Eddie let me add this seasons ones:
Europa League
Goals 2
Assists 0
Ball recovered 13
Ball given away 65
Shots 20
Off target 13
Premier League
Goals 0
Assists 0
Ball recovered 7
Ball given away 23
Shots 6
Off target 3
We need help in the attack until Jesus returns.
Just an idea, let’s enjoy Jesus a bit more before we flog him off eh?
“My biggest beef about the host country issue is that thee was near proof (accept this is a fine line ) that the draws for Russia and Qatar were fixed”
You mean voting was rigged? You could also say the same for Germany 2006 against South Africa. It was widely spread that it was rigged. But it’s Europe. So they can do no wrong. Smh
MD Gunner, minutes played and number of starts need to be mentioned in your stat attack against Eddie.