MONDAY ROUND-UP – DISARRAY AT RIVALS

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The Arsenal Loan Boys Classique in France went well for Flo and Nuno yesterday. Our 3rd choice left-back scored a screamer, I think it was maybe the second shot he’s hit on target this year and it was a low screamer. It’s lovely to see him doing well in France, hopefully he can add a bit of calmness to his game, and a bit of defensive rigour. Balogun also scored, a cross was whipped in, Marseille didn’t clear it and Balogun was sharpest to the second ball nodding it in.

Nuno won MoTM in L’quipe.

Next summer, I suspect you’ll likely see Kieran Tierney exit for a big money because he’s not going to sit behind Zinchenko long-term. I could be wrong, but I think Zinchenko has more to his game, and I reckon he’s more robust… not that we’ve seen him drop too many 50-game season, so we’ll see.

Nuno will then come back and fight for his place. Hopefully we’ll have a more mature player with extremely explosive traits… and someone that will happily fight for his place being quite a bit younger than KT.

Barcelona are rapidly turning into the most ridiculous club on the planet. They apparently told Frenkie that they’ve seen bad things in his deal, agreed by previous management, and they recommended the contract be annulled. In any other business, this sort of carry-on would end in a lawsuit. To make matter even more nuts, Barcelona set up an account they owned, transferred their own money into it, and tried to pretend it was new money… La Liga said no, and told them they can’t register their 5 new players. That is fraud. How are they allowed to operate this way without consequence?

United has an offer on the table for Frenkie. Chelsea has an offer on the table for Frenkie PLUS an offer to pay his deferred wages. But the player still prefers to stay at Barcelona, which I think is amazing. Quite incredible that Barcelona thought it was sharp to give him a £400k a week deal.

Hopefully, they are made to pay for the error of their ways, but you suspect they’ll get away with it because they have a big brand.

How about some more United slander?

EtH, probably the last of the ‘ARSENAL SHOULD SACK ARTETA FOR _______’ managers, is really warming to the job. He’s tapping Arnautovic to spice up the dressing room, which is amazing because he’s both shite, and a bit of a racist. But hey, sometimes you need a bit of a personality… maybe he’ll do better with talent ID in midfield? ERRR NO! Adrien Rabiot is on the list. I didn’t even realise he was a real player, I thought he existed as a metaverse transfer rumour. Some sort of gag. But listen, I am absolutely here for this sort of player because he isn’t moving Untied to the promised land.

BNC, right back superstar in the making, has signed a new deal with Arsenal. The plan there seems quite clear, give him a bigger loan at a better team this season, hope he smashes it, then give him the chance to succeed Cedric next season. The kid has it all, he has outrageous amounts of technical ability, he’s won things with England U19s, he’s powerful like Nuno, and he seems to have his head screwed on. It’s so good to have all our young players committing to new deals these days.

There are stories doing the rounds that Arsenal are one of the clubs tracking winger Yeremy Pino of Villareal. They need to raise funds, the 20 year old is attracting the fluttering eyelids of Arsenal and Liverpool, the release is £67m. Now, who knows if this is true, but I think the profile of the wide player we’re looking at is a little more experienced. Output is the absolute key for Arteta. Raphinha had done it in a failing Leeds side, Moussa Dembele has ridiculous numbers, I’m not sure we’re going to go hard for a 20-year-old with 6 goals and 4 assists. We need someone that can deliver now, we have more than enough players that have potential.

Again, could be wrong, but even Fabio Vieira comes with BIG output numbers. We are doing all we can to derisk out signings. There’s not a lot of players arriving at Arsenal this summer you have to guess at or listen to the weirdos on Football Twitter who assume anyone obscure is the best player ever.

I’m more interested in getting Tielemans over the line right now. We’re light on experience there and our two best midfielders are 29 years old. We need some additional legs so we’re not exposed like we were last season. So let’s hope we can kick some deals over the line.

Ok, short one today, see you in the comments. x

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Batistuta

Reading Barca have agreed a price for Bernado Silva.

1. Aren’t City a bit short in terms of numbers and quality wise if this deal goes through?

2. How tf are Barcelona the cheating cunts paying for all of these transfers while owing De Jong and asking Pique to take yet another pay cut and on top of that cannot even register any of their new players ahead of their opening game this weekend

Rich

Marko Realistically, how quickly could we expect Pino to adapt to the intensity of the PL? When could we expect him to deliver the type of end product numbers + consistency, delivered by the very best players who play for teams who compete at the very top of the game? Is it a medium term punt, where we’d have to wait 12-24 months before seeing consistent performances at the very highest level, and see a return on investment? What would the cost of that development time be, regarding our competitiveness as a club? We can’t be a young team that… Read more »

Batistuta

Milan will not sell Tonali unless we offer stupid money

Ishola70

Samesong He made some good defensive plays and he also made the throughball that saw the penalty given on Chilwell. I watched him to see if he would struggle with pace but didn’t see obvious signs that he is going to sruggle badly with this aspect. Thiago Silva is still going to be the one with pace issues. Koulibaly came off with a quarter of the game to go not just because of possible match fitness but also because he got caught with a late niggle challenge from an Everton player who caught him. If Koulibaly plays along these lines… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

Marko

Yeah, it’s a long shot for those reasons. Would take him over Tielemans any day, or a winger.

DM/CM, 2 footed, Great technical skills and long shot as well. 22 with plenty of experience already.
A lot of good midfield options out there, just hope we do something, don’t want to see us fail for the same reasons over and over.

Mr Serge

European teams are broke even teams like Milan we could take their players if they wanted to come
Only a handful of clubs are spending and the others are waiting to sell before they enter the market

Ishola70

Koulibaly was fortunate not to get carded though in the match. He had a little pull on Gordon’s shirt when he was running free.

But he made some good defensive headers in the match.

Marko

Realistically, how quickly could we expect Pino to adapt to the intensity of the PL?

It’s irrelevant and I hate this line of thinking signings aren’t generally thought of with such short sightness. Sure there’s a risk to every signing even ones from the premier league.

Marko

Yeah Freddie there’s options out there other than Tielemens and I hope they realize that

Samesong

Ishola

I like Koulibaly.One thing is that he takes risks. So he is very confident player. He was step overs and playing like Lukaku at times.

Marko

Fyi Hector Bellerin is 27 has a market value of 20 million euros and we’re about to cancel his contract so he can leave for free. Why is that? Is it because at Arsenal we accumulated a pile of shite over the years? Is it because we then give that same pile contracts of 110,000 a week? A bit of both perhaps

Marko

Anyway spare a thought for Man United who honestly look in complete shambles these days. They look like the guy who’s in charge of their transfer business is stuck getting his ideas from football manager 2000. Actually I heard Darren Fletcher is their technical director so no wonder its bad

Rich

Marko It’s entirely relevant when we’ve been 6 years outside the CL, and our commercial + manufacturing deals will need to be renegotiated shortly. When we know there’s very often a price for educating even the very best young players, how quickly do we want to close the gap on the top 2? We can’t spend what’ll likely be between £300-£350 million inside 14 months, and then still be sitting 20-30 points off the top. Liverpool + City have average ages of 27-28, ours is 23-24, and at times that inexperience understandably shows, and we won’t close the gap by… Read more »

Nigel Tufnel

Pierre, Fair summary of Ødegaards game in my view… except that you are so unfair to him as you always are to blame him for Eze getting a 1 on one shot at Ramsdale. You’re seriously blaming the CAM for a guy being alone in the box… not the 2 deeper midfielders or 4 defenders? I totally saw that as a team breakdown. Would you have ever blamed Ozil for something like that? Of course not. Huge double standards. I said he had an average game game (by his standards, below average)… the missed goal infuriated me and Jesus was… Read more »

Pierre

Nigel
“Would you have ever blamed Ozil for something like that?
Of course not. Huge double standards.”

I wouldn’t blame him because he wouldn’t be stupid enough to find himself in the right back position, but as Odegaard was there and if he is as intelligent as some think , then the least he could have done is either closed the gap for the pass or marked the player , he did neither so was rendered useless.

Pierre

Nigel ” And the distance covered stat is not one that you can just overlook, with him leading the press and tracking back to help in defense. ” It’s no wonder he had to run so far as everytime he was”leading the press” , Andersen bypassed the press to hit 50 yard inch perfect balls over our high line, meaning Odegaard then had to run the 50 yards back to get into position without actually affecting the play.. What should of happened if our manager or captain had used their brain, is Arteta should have told either jesus or Martinelli… Read more »

Habesha Gooner

Oh Tonali would be tasty. But I can’t see Milan selling him. They have already lost Kessie. Bennacer and Tonali are the base of their midfield now. I like his profile because he would play both the CM and DM roles well. We wouldn’t crumble in the event that Partey gets injured. We would just have to move Tonali to a more defensive role and play Xhaka or Sambi if we wanted to. Yeremy pino is very talented. But he isn’t the finished article or nowhere near consistent. And the prices being quoted are more than 40 mil. And if… Read more »

Marko

The only way I see Milan selling Tonali is if they needed to balance the books/wanted to sign up someone and needed the funds otherwise he’s a key player for them

China1

The other point about Milan is they just won the league for the first time in yonks. They’ve already lost a couple of midfielders. Not saying they’re flush with cash because Italian clubs never are, but I’m a little surprised if they are willing to sell a good asset so easily and even more so at that price. Obviously it’s a lot of money but arsenal have a reputation for overpaying so any smart team without pressure to sell should be jacking prices up very high as soon as we come knocking But maybe my suspicions are wrong and this… Read more »

China1

‘ I wouldn’t blame him because he wouldn’t be stupid enough to find himself in the right back position, but as Odegaard was there and if he is as intelligent as some think , then the least he could have done is either closed the gap for the pass or marked the player , he did neither so was rendered useless.’

😂😂

David.D

Mr Serge
IPTV is brilliant.
Also have a seperate box that gives me Sky , BT , Be in sports who are superb and Supersports in Africa.
Sky and BT the thieving barstards.
i pay 90 pounds a year for the box and 12 pounds a month for IPTV.
Not being a mug anymore and paying Sky 45 pounds a month

China1

You could never find ozil in the right back position Pierre you ain’t wrong about that

Tho for about 60% of the time you couldn’t find him on the pitch at all.

China1

If I move back to the UK I really don’t know what the best thing is to do about football because honestly fuck those sky prices

I pay about £4 a month to have unlimited HD live streams on my phone or laptop covering all top flight football matches in England Spain and Italy.

£45+ a month to watch a handful of arsenal games? Might as well just fork out for a real fucking ticket

David.D

Anyone worried that if Tomiyasu comes in Saliba gets dropped to the bench for White and Gabriel to continue.
If that happens we can kiss goodbye to any hope of him signing a new contract.
On that performance SURELY SURELY SURELY he keeps his place in the team.
I think Tomi will be eased back in and the same back 4 played in the league until there is a bad result.

Un

China
Get a firestick and turn it dodgy easy peasy.

Marko

Milan ‘s outgoings have been slim to say the least so maybe there is a willingness to sell to help fund more incomings

China1

I think if I move back I’ll just find a pub for all the games because a couple of pints and a pub atmosphere is way better than paying a billion pounds to watch it at home

David.D

China
They are a fucking rip off
i gave up Sky about 7 years ago and have never looked back.
That fucking 45 was only after playing the loyalty card at contract renewal so that was even a discounted price

Mysticleaves

“You could never find ozil in the right back position Pierre you ain’t wrong about that”

Except he needed to get his Fortnite login in details from Bellerin

China1

David if Tomi comes back really soon it could happen

If Tomi is eased back in slowly (as he should be) then Saliba may prove himself too good at CB to be dropped full stop

It could end up with White staying first choice RB. Anything is possible atm so we’ll see

izzo

I’d take Tonali over Tielemann. Italy’s future and already a mainstay in midfield. Diaby has to be the winger if we’re going abroad he’s further along in his development than Pino and older and ready to deliver. We have Marquinhos so makes no sense to sign another 19 year old.

Mysticleaves

“I pay about £4 a month to have unlimited HD live streams on my phone or laptop covering all top flight football matches in England Spain and Italy.”

The only thing I need to pay for his my data connection. A lot of sites and apps showing all the games and all the leagues in the world lol.

I don’t even have a TV in my house anymore. My mobile phone and laptop has everything I need

David.D

China
i really hope its the 2nd option.
No need to rush Tomi back.
Saliba comes across so fucking unflustered. Coolness personified in play and in his interviews.
Boy is a beast. We have to do everything we can to keep him.
Reassuring to hear the praise Arteta has been heaping on him.
Arteta and Edu are not stupid to that fact now……they have hit gold

Marko

Pierre still holding a candle for Ozil… I’m shocked

David.D

i would take Neto from wolves all day long.
Loads of potential and fully adapted to the league.
Not convinced Diaby would come here and smash it or the Pina guy.
Lets get premier league ready so they can hit the ground running.

Mysticleaves

I’d take Tonali too but he’s not leaving Milan this season. May never leave Italy. Italians don’t travel well and not especially to the EPL. Though a few have been great here but you get the feeling that it won’t be their first choice destination. No point buying Pino. Like Izzo pointed, same age as Marquinhos who is very talented. We already have a settled right and left winger with capable back ups for both. And they are all sub 22 (including Vieira) so no need for another project winger. If we didn’t have Martinelli I would have gone for… Read more »

David.D

Plus sure we could get Neto for 35 to 40 million.
Diaby 60 plus ….no thanks

Mysticleaves

David D

With all that being said, Arteta can still bench him out of the blue. He’s done it severally, especially to people he didn’t hand pick into the squad. I am guessing Saliba himself is holding on to see what plays out lol.

We absolutely need to keep Saliba and I am guessing Tomi is the one that suffers it. But if White has bad games at RB then he will come back in.

Pierre

Marko still talking bollocks …I’m shocked

Marko

Again I don’t think people realize how highly rated Yeremy Pino is forget about his age you’re literally buying up one of the very best prospects in European football. I mean we shouldn’t even be an option for him he’s that good.

Marko

My point is we should be so lucky as to sign him yet we’re being picky as shit it seems

Marko

Pierre you’re just upset that he’s doing dogshit in a crap league.

David.D

Mysticleaves

Agreed. Arteta can be a bit unpredictable in that regard and there is no doubt White is one of his favourites.
With Tomi back at right back unfortunately can see only one thing happening and thats White back partnering Gabriel. After all he bought White for 50 million.,
Really going to be a game of cat and mouse to see who blinks first.
Saliba will not sign a contract until he is happy with his playing time.

andy1886

Spending £40m on Yeremy while not upgrading our MF is a bit like buying new windows when the old ones are just fine but ignoring the holes in your roof. Makes zero sense, especially when the suggestion is that we have to sell to buy any more players.

As an aside how are those on here who predicted sales of £80m-£100m this summer feeling? A little embarrassed would be my guess.

China1

Marko don’t be hard on ozil and his decline

He spent his entire career running his ass off, bulldozing his way through physical battles and showing up for the fight

Can’t expect his body to hold out into his 30s as tho he’s spent the last 5+ years literally coasting

izzo

Marko wants us to sign Pino when we have Marquinhos. (Let me guess you don’t give a shit about him and want us to sign more teenagers) Get your mind right. Also moaning about Bellerin. We have money to pay off /terminate a contract and still buy players so why the fuck are you moaning like someone is playing with your money?

Rich

Can we afford to spend a reported €40-€50 million on a 19yr old, who in all likelihood is going to take 12-24 months to deliver consistency, and the type of end product we’ll need, to compete against the very best? Will he develop in the way that we need him to without consistent minutes, Or will his development stall? Would his inclusion further hinder our consistency, while we went through teething + shitting the bed stages? I’m not saying it would, I know little about the player, but having seen young players with more physicality, and further along in their… Read more »

Nigel Tufnel

Pierre,

Maybe don’t respond if you don’t have an a response.

To call ødegaard, a creative player, stupid for tracking back to help the team, then jump on his back when he doesn’t perform like a DM or CB is just silly and shows your desperation and bias against him.

I knew that posting the fact that Ødegaard covered more ground than any player in the entire league, would trigger someone to snipe at him. No surprise you couldn’t resist.
You’ll never get over the fact that he’s replaced….
Everyone knows.

izzo

Arteta is not going to bench Saliba out of the blue ever unless he’s actually injured. He is the first CB name on the sheet. Can we stop all the fear mongering over Saliba. If Arteta wants to tank the season he can go ahead and bench him and the fans will riot especially the Saliba ultras. Think of Salibaon the same breath as Gabriel Jesus as no way will Arteta bench him.

David.D

Izzo

I sincerely hope you are right.
He should be the first CB on the team sheet but Arteta sanctioned spending 50 million on White.
You cannot ignore that fact meaning there is a danger he has a subconcious bias to White .
Lets hope not!

Nigel Tufnel

That’s right Izzo.

No controversy necessary.
White, who played great this week against one of three toughest assignments in the league,( a good sign in itself)… can share time with Tomiyasu who is a slight worry for muscle injuries anyway.

Each one gives us a very different look and tactical options.

In the unlikely event Arteta makes the mistake of causing a problem,, I’ll be on his back with everyone else.

I think the universal acclaim from all media on a national showing will assure that won’t happen.

Ken

Izzo
“Arteta is not going to bench Saliba out of the blue ever unless he’s actually injured. He is the first CB name on the sheet. Can we stop all the fear mongering over Saliba. If Arteta wants to tank the season he can go ahead and bench him and the fans will riot especially the Saliba ultras. Think of Salibaon the same breath as Gabriel Jesus as no way will Arteta bench him.”

Arteta told you this himself did he?

Mysticleaves

“That’s not based on their overall potential, but based on their likelihood for adapting off the pitch, to make us more competitive in the immediate, because we have to get back in the CL next season, and I’d like us to win a trophy this season as well.”

If we have to get back to the UCL, then signing a capable CM to replace Xhaka will get us there faster than any of those 5 wingers.

We already have capable starting wingers but don’t have capable starting CMs. It’s that simple

raptora

From 2018/19 to now
Incoming transfers £565m
Outgoing transfers £125m

NET spend of £440m in 5 seasons is some massive spending. Unbelievable that we haven’t managed to finish in top 4 not even once. Hopefully this is the season.

izzo

Tomiyasu can’t stay fit. Ben White will get most of the games at right back this season hence why Saliba won’t ever be dropped. Arteta didn’t need to tell me if you use your brain you can see how things will go. This is defense we’re talking about and we know Arteta loves defensive play so why would he change it? Midfield attack i can understand him changing and even putting Saka in AM or LW but not the defense. He would have to be on some strong stuff to change that backline dramatically. He would only change it for… Read more »

James wood

Everton sign ONANA 33MILLION .

izzo

lol Everton sign who? Onana is just another Gbamin. Everton will likely go down this season but won’t be surprised if they survive like last season.

Rich

Rap That’s 4 seasons, we’ve just entered the 5th from 2018/19. Using this summers spending to make your argument makes no sense, because we’re only 1 game in, and last seasons spending was all on young players to develop over the medium term, a significant instant return on investment, was always unlikely if you’re being fair. We were also developing young players like Saka, Martinelli, Smith Rowe alongside them, and as talented as they are, expecting them to deliver consistency + output of top players at the peak of their powers, wasn’t fair, or realistic. I’d agree that young players… Read more »

Ken

Izzo
I hope you’re right because Saliba is our best defender and should be the first name on the teamsheet but I don’t trust Arteta to think that way – you’ve heard the expression galaxy brain haven’t you? And before you or anyone else labels me an Arteta hater, the expression galaxy brain was coined by Pedro in reference to Arteta.

The Bard

Rich I tend to agree. Top 4 or he comes under real pressure. The value of a good start is we don’t go and do a shopping trolley dash. Still not totally convinced by our midfield Xhaka and Partey don’t do it for me. Not enough athleticism or quality against the top sides.

Positive pete

No way will we end up with Tonali.Would be very very surprised.Still think it’ll be “ oven ready” Tielemans & Neto.

englandsbest

Why worry so much about Tomi? He’s a young guy with a muscle strain. that’s it. He is getting the best treatment, he’ll recover soon enough and play regularly. Tierney is a tougher problem long term. But if he’s rotated, not overplayed, he’ll last the course.

Five substitutes is intriguing, adds a new dimension to the game. If the team is not scoring, you can change the front line in one hit, likewise defence. The first manager who does that successfully may set a trend. The permutains become endless.

englandsbest

permutations

Tom

Ten Hag did that already in his first match.
United needed a goal so he brought on three attackers in dying minutes and United barely touched the ball before the final whistle.

Of course it didn’t help that his subs ages were 18,20, and 21, so on a youngish side lol.

Mr Serge

As good as iptv is most people in the UK still pay for sky etc me being one of them

I can’t be staying up until 4 am to watch the UFC
I also like to record the matches I go to as you see a totally different perspective of the match than you do live.

Also if people like me never paid then the IPTV stuff would not be around.

Clinton Macsherry

Habeesha:
“I would just get a CM and play Viera and Marquinos as backups to Saka and sell Nelson and Pepe (if possible). “
Amen to this. Get the two newbies we’ve already signed more meaningful experience with the senior team; use whatever we might have spent on an additional winger toward the very best CM/DM we can achieve.

englandsbest

Tom

Ten Hag brought them on as subs, the old routine. What I’m suggesting is a planned campaign.

Five players who have trained and worked together as a unit A band within a band, if you like. Swing fans will know what I mean.

englandsbest

I’m one of the oldies shanghaied into paying £159 to the BBC. Their PL sports coverage is limited to MOTD, for which Gary the garrulous gets around £2 mill pa. That really p****s me off. Actually, there is not much you can say good about them anymore. They used to be the benchmark for quality. Not anymore. Not on TV anyway.

Positive pete

Well well well .Whadda I know? Looks like AFC pino bid £33 million to be accepted? They had a release clause of around £65 .Intersesting.Seems Villarreal Brassic lint.

Samesong

Serge

“Also if people like me never paid then the IPTV stuff would not be around”

Gambling and betting companies use IPTV have been using IPTV for quite some time now.

Un

Why did my post about the firestick disappear?

Wicked Willy

Thoughts on Pino? I’ve vaguely heard of him. I much prefer Diaby in terms of readiness. I can only hope he’s the next generational winger…

Mr Serge

New post lads