ALL OR NOTHING: WHY IT’LL BANG

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Well, how are we all doing today? Good… exceptional you say?

Superb, let’s get cracking.

There’s another teaser for the Amazon doco that has caused a mild stir.

Firstly, let’s explore the fear that this will be bad for Arsenal.

IT WON’T.

Why?

Amazon is a serious company with outrageous financial muscle. One area they are powering in on is content. Live sport is basically all that has kept SKY afloat over the last 30 years. Premier League football is why households up and down the country pay £100 a month for their box. You think Amazon is looking at Premier League rights as a way to sell more toilet rolls?

All or Nothing is an elite franchise. They work with clubs all around the world. They get mountains of data on who watches it, what their consumption habits are, and whether they buy Spurs bog roll after watching Jose Mourinho.

When you make content with people you don’t own, you tend to want to make more.

Real Housewives was a client of mine. BRAVO owned the talent. They could cycle people in and out of shows because the SHOWS were the product. I sat with reality stars that were like ‘I AM NOT THE PERSON THEY SAY I AM’ but the truth was, you are whatever that network makes you out to be because there are always going to be another 50 people who would step in.

All Or Nothing doesn’t have talent. The talent is the clubs that agree to allow documentarians behind the scenes. What do clubs care about? Not looking like dickheads. Image is everything to managers, execs and footballers. Careers are short, jobs are hard to come by, you need to look good. So knowing that, when Amazon comes knocking, what do you think execs do? They go and watch the City, Spurs, and Chivas series to see how they were portrayed.

Also worth noting that All or Nothing also doesn’t need to be salacious to sell. Football fans would tune in to see Ramsdale lipread. The producers don’t need to kill careers to get eyeballs on the show AND the objective isn’t all on ratings, it’s data, and getting the next series commissioned.

Has any club been embarrassed? No. Fuck me, even I fell in love a little with Jose Mourinho, you think that was an accident? No. The editors went out of their way to make him look pleasant because he’s not a pleasant guy.

Now onto the scene people are critiquing.

The gist is very basic.

Arteta put speakers out on the pitch and pumped high decibels YNWA onto the training pitch to get the youngest squad in the Premier League used to playing away at the home of the best team in the world.

By any standards, that’s a pretty innovative idea based on the tools he had at his disposal for that game.

The base premise is simple: anything you can do in preparation to make your players feel a little more at ease is worth trying.

Before Presidential debates, candidates will hire in journalists and pundits to roast them.

Before pitches when I was in New York, we’re bring in senior arseholes to rip our decks apart with challenging questions to see if we fell apart.

In a new HBO documentary, a social scientist called Nathan Fielder rebuilds replica sets of people’s lives to help them practice navigating tough issues in their life… like admitting to a lie.

This is a marginal gains move, it cost nothing, it was worth a go. Did we win? No. But honestly, why does that matter? If you are the type of person that thinks trying new things is only worth it if you succeed, you probably aren’t succeeding that much in your life.

Give me a coach trying new shit to gain a little, at the very least, it shows the squad that the manager is extremely focused on winning, at the very best, you’ll win more games because your players will feel like they’re getting some of that edge.

Looking under stones and doing mad shit is how you succeed in all walks of life. Hedge fund data nerds studied flight paths of CEOs. If they were booking flights the day before earnings, statistically, they worked out that it meant that a good quarter was incoming. If there was no private jet, it was bad times. Some were using Starbucks car park data to predict consumer sentiment, if the car parks were filled, people were feeling luxurious, if they were passing on coffee, belts were tightening. There are companies that have apps that force people to rate their colleague’s effectiveness in meetings to drive productivity… imagine that? I’d be fucked. ‘He was tweeting again.’

You can call these ideas ‘cringe’ but what you are really calling cringe is having a crack at something new and that would make you a bore.

Onto transfers.

Lucas Torreira looks set to exit to Turkey. Galatasaray has apparently found £7.5m and the word is that we’ll now make moves on Youri T.

Good times.

Bernd Leno is going to Fulham. The package breakdown is… sad.

What yah gonna do? If there’s no market for him, there’s no market for him. We will regret his exit if Aaron Ramsdale doesn’t find his early season form, but all indicators so far are we won’t be doing much defending, and his game is BACK.

There is talk that Hector hates life at Arsenal so much, he’s asking for a termination. DON’T DO IT. We should let him leave for free and put a 70% sell-on clause into his deal so we don’t get mugged by Betis.

Pablo Mari is going to… AC Monza. He’s a handsome man. But that was as far as it went for his career. He wasn’t fast enough or very good positionally. I’m glad we exited him.

Smith Rowe is OUT of the Palace game this Friday, but he’ll be back in full training next week. To be expected. I really hope he can be kept fit this season. But again, it does flag why we’re looking to add another winger to the mix, he is unreliable fitness wise and I think we’ll be lucky to get 30 games out of him this season. PROVE ME WRONG.

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GoonerB

First?

GoonerB

Second?

GoonerB

Third?!

GoonerB

Trophy!.. first in 10+ years lol

Zacharse

nice little contrast to the doomsday leno chatter

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62401130

Wicked Willy

Gálatasaray £25m? Where did that come from? I’m reading £7.5m

Gommit

This 25m must be an error from Pedro… Maybe Arsenal have found 25m following the sale of Torreira.. But not directly from Gala…

Samuel

Tricky game on Friday, wish ESR could stay healthy. I think going forward in attack, his ceiling is higher than Saka even though Saka is the better overall player by some distance.

Mr Serge

3 more sleeps to the palace game I cannot wait I thinks you meant 7m not 25 m peds

Mr Serge

It’s good we are doing business and selling these players instead of clattering the squad with inadequate talent, good luck to ten hag and Tuchel with their 10 plus players doing the same at their respective clubs

englandsbest

Oh, for the sweet simplicity of the past! Does anybody behave NATURALLY anymore, or are we all PR-ed into behaving as we should- which today apparently means a brainwashed customer. You get the feeling you are watched night and day, an open book to the page turner.

But I’ll tune into All or Nothing knowing that I’m one up on them anyway, a dead duck all ready, a committed customer, an Arsenal fan. who can catch them out at their cunning tricks.

Crimson

Charlie off to the seaside with Blackpool.

Nigel Tufnel

I made a simple comment that at this very moment ESR is our 3rd winger only behind Martinelli and Saka. Not a terrible situation with 5 subs and 4 competitions.. (unless he can’t stay fit for 90 minutes). Then this response from these 2 : PierreAugust 2, 2022 Marko “Right you’re not getting it though lets just say hypothetically we bring in another winger and he’s not a pile of shite and on top of Martinelli, Saka, Vieira, Gabriel and Nketiah in the front 3 how could he not suffer minutes wise.”100% correct The writing would be on the wall… Read more »

Jonnygunner

ESR’s only ever going to be held back by his fitness…or lack of. His ability has never been in question- I just hope he doesn’t turn into another Jack Wilshere.

Emiratesstroller

According to Ornstein we have agreed a transfer fee of just £3 million + add on of £1 million if Leno plays a certain number of games and then additional fees only if Fulham stay in EPL. I could have understood a modest fee of £8 million up front but not this kind of deal. Leno is an international class goalkeeper who played regularly in first team until last season. He was not long ago ranked in top 10 goalkeepers in major club football. The idea that we buy Turner an unproven goalkeeper for £6.5 million and sell Leno for… Read more »

Marko

Patino out on loan.

Dissenter

Emirates Have you considered, in retrospect, the possibility that we overpaid for Leno Leno has run his course. He’s a good shot stopper and sucks at everything else. He looked decent at a time when we were conceding shots like crazy but he has no new levels to his game. There s a glut of too-well-paid older footballers in the market, hence his liw fees. We need to stop these lamentations about player being sold for too cheap because we don’t consider the wages the buying club has to factor into the purchase and the lack of other suitors willing… Read more »

Dissenter

Turner’s transfer fee was just less than £5 million, to rise to £7.5 million depending on add-ons.

I would have preferred a premier league ready goalie that could challenge Ramsdale from day one but the ones that got us Ramsdale [and Runnarsson] thought otherwise.

Until Turner proves himself to be a poor keeper, there’s nothing to worry about.
He’s played at least three pre-season games with the club, mainly with the rotating defenders and he’s been okay so far.

Madhu

I really don’t understand Torriera motivation as a professional footballer ending in Turkey at the ripe.old age of 26. Not getting adjusted to London is BS. There is serious issue with such a professional football. As a professional football if you ambitious then you suck up and do your job in a short career. Not sure what is he going to achive by going to an lowly 13 th placed club in bottom tier of European leagues. Good that we got rid of him and would have to seriously question his recruitment in the first place. I wonder how is… Read more »

Dark Hei

Stroller

I think Leno deserves a nice send off. While he was here, he did his shift even as a number 2.

High wages and all likely means we won’t cash in on him.

Likely also we are doing him a favor to let him stay in London.

If only we had that common sense when dealing with Koscielny.

Dark Hei

Madhu

You missed that part of Arteta’s memo which says “not needed here”.

Madhu

Hei Torriera let himself to a position where he was not.needed by making statements about life in London bla bla. Offcourse you will never be comfortable outside of your home environs. Why become a professional sportsman when you know you are likely not be in your home environs. Just can’t understand him. Does he think he will be comfortable in Istanbul now.

Zacharse

Have to say i thought mari would do better. He was on a brazilian team that narrowly lost to liverpool in the club championships and i thought he’d wind up how holding has. Rough to have another outgoing window like this, probably a bit weird for some of the players…

MidwestGun

I guess I need to see the video.. but pumping loud music into.. practice facilities to simulate crowd noise during practice has been done by the NFL for decades.. they also do it in basketball practices, it’s not that new or innovative and it definitely is not that controversial. Surprised if Arteta would be the first to do it in football.

Emiratesstroller

Dissenter

Are you suggesting seriously that Leno is not a better goalkeeper than Turner?

Turner has been recruited as the understudy of Ramsdale. For the money which is being paid for Leno I would have kept him for the remaining year of his contract.

I would have been equally tough with Bellerin. The club must not be consistently held to
ransom by players and prospective clubs. I am fairly sure that both Fulham and Real Betis
would have found the money to buy both players if they did not believe that Arsenal would
not capitulate so easily.

Dark Hei

Stroller

“Better” is a relative word.

I don’t think an unhappy, unmotivated Leno is going to be “better” than a Turner who wants the little bit of game time available to prove himself. You keep Leno, you will shoot yourself from both sides. Plus Leno did well to us last season so that has to be a consideration.

Bellerin is different. BUT, I don’t think he is trying to screw the club. He is likely negotiating with Betis on his salary so that he is able to play for them. We will see, but not all negotiations are the same.

Nigel Tufnel

I’d say it’s wise to take an idea that’s working in other sports, in different countries, and using the idea as a possible help in our game. It’s not new or controversial, as Midwest said… but if no other football club has done it before, why not give Arteta some credit for being the first, if he is. I also heard last season that Arteta was trying to push the club to take some fan friendly ideas from la liga, like allowing fans in the stadium earlier before games, and a few other things. There’s nothing to criticise about trying… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Dark Hei

Leno is a professional footballer.

There is no evidence that he was a prima dona and threw strops, because he was no longer
first team goalkeeper.

For the record he played in the EPL game against Aston Villa in March which we won 1-0.
That was for the record the last game of the season where Arsenal did not concede a goal!!

Dark Hei

Stroller

I think if you pull it for another season, you would be seriously testing his goodwill and professionalism.

China1

Leno mari and torreira all gone/virtually gone. That’s good progress and the prices (whilst low) are tolerable. I think it’s positive and I hope we have a few more outgoing. Bellerin needs to bring us a transfer fee or made to rot in the reserves. Nuno is on loan (good). Balogun is nearly off on loan (good).

We’re getting there. Nelson and niles are remaining questions. Who else from the senior squad? I don’t think we’ll shift any other midfielders this summer

Northbanker

Agree on Torreiras lack of ambition

I don’t understand either Bellerin wanting to play for Real Beris but takes all sorts I guess

Luteo Guenreira

If 1) Tielemans or another CM does come in and proves to be a big upgrade on Xhaka and 2) more importantly if Thomas can stay healthy for a full season while not letting any off field distractions affect his level of play….you feel like Arsenal could do some real damage this year. Crazier things have happened. Excited for Friday and hope we don’t get a huge letdown to start the season. Not that one loss or draw dictates our entire year but a win will really help carry this positive momentum and you have to think there’s a good… Read more »

China1

I think Arteta blasting YNWA at the training ground was a good idea. What’s the worst that could’ve happened? No benefit? Nothing lost in a worst case scenario

China1

I always like to see people trying new ideas. It’s how progress is made. If it doesn’t work you analyze why not and then either refine that idea in a way you think will work next time or if the evidence suggests it’s not worth it, scrap it.

It’s all useful experience

Darren

The playing of YNWA reminds me of the South Korean archery team (which has won most of Olympic golds in the past 30/40 years). This is part of elite competition.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3bOhPVGt-wU

Pierre

Nigwl tufnell “Plus you’re living in your own little world with Pierre if you think Smith Rowe is taking Ødegaards spot.” In case anyone believes the shit that Tufnell writes ,,here are my 2 comments from yesterday regarding smith rowe/ Odegaard ” “I’m not sure i can see Arteta dropping Odegaard for smith rowe anytime soon , not in the league anyway.” “Smith Rowe and Eddie are waiting in the wings to grab their chance so Martinelli will need to perform as Saka , Odegaard and jesus are the nailed on starter” Looks like another apology from Nigel Tufnell is… Read more »

kjelli

The game on Friday will be a tense affair with all the expectation of the fans resting on players
minds, but we should be able to keep a clean sheet and harass them upfront

Jonnygunner

China1August 3, 2022 06:13:44
I think Arteta blasting YNWA at the training ground was a good idea. What’s the worst that could’ve happened? No benefit? Nothing lost in a worst case scenario

Well, everybody’s knocking around in trackers and baseball caps, so it just completes the Scouse look….

Habesha Gooner

I think we did Leno a favor for years of service. He absolutely wanted to stay in London and we gave him what he wanted in terms Fulham could adhere to. Otherwise this deal makes little sense. I also have no problem with Arteta trying a crazy idea. It didn’t work the first time. But we handled the occasion well until Tavarez gave Jota that 2nd goal. And we drew them away in the league cup with a man down in our 2nd visit to Anfield. Fans of other clubs might criticize the approach because they want to shit on… Read more »

Useroz

Saving wages or not, we got ro stop giving away players who worth some half decent money in the market. A Germany national team no. 3 goalie with anple EPL experience going to Fulham? On these terms? Just don’t repeat it for Bellerin. We ain’t going ro be able to negotiate any meaningful player sales in future. Hindsight,… may be Edu shouldn’t be so forthcoming in divulging our approach to getting rid of unwanted players in the recent interview. The whole market now learned that we are prepared to terminate contracts (and not just for Auba type) and giveaway players….… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

I accept that there are players who are for a variety of reasons unsaleable or we are forced to sell for peanuts. However, Leno and Bellerin are two players who should not be included in that category. They have both played regularly in Arsenal’s first team and are respectively in the right age bracket. I hate to suggest it, but does anyone believe seriously that Levy who handles transfer business at Spurs would have allowed these two players to leave the club for such paltry deals if he was in charge at Arsenal. As a club Arsenal have gained a… Read more »

Markymark

Arteta should have arranged for someone to nick all the hubcaps / wheels of the players cars. Maybe randomly punched one of the players in the gob.
Simple method of replicating the Liverpool experience. Job done!

Jonnygunner

MarkymarkAugust 3, 2022 08:43:12
Arteta should have arranged for someone to nick all the hubcaps / wheels of the players cars. Maybe randomly punched one of the players in the gob.
Simple method of replicating the Liverpool experience. Job done!

And a Greggs……a bookies…

Pierre

First game of the season can sometimes provide surprise scorelines/results and the palace game may be one of those games. We could catch palace cold and impose a heavy defeat on them . We must be going into the game with confidence sky high, lets see us ping the ball about with speed and look to break them down early before they have a chance to settle into the game.. Alternately, palace put a player on Partey as they did last season , then bypass him and use zinchenko or go through xhaka if he has become such an important… Read more »

Markymark

I think the comments someone said about buying badly hold true . If you buy over priced the low sale price always look far worse. It also appears the tides gone out on player fees which has actually allowed us to buy Jesus at 45m. The Vlahovic transfer fee looks really prohibitive now , when previously looked par for the course. Chelsea and Man UTD are going to have massive write offs. Makes ours look pretty tame. TBH players sales value is really an owners issue. You can I suppose some sort of line to ultimate success of the club… Read more »

Aasim

Hate fookin bellerin. Woke ass fake cunt, couldn’t perform for shit and focused on everything other than football and has since been a royal mop. Fuck his types. Same with AMN. Fuckers like these need to learn how to give a fuck and try.

Ishola70

Arteta did what?

I would say that’s being a bit too obsessed with an opponent.

You are putting the opponent on a high mantle playing their anthem over and over again to the players.

Roll into town and turn them over.

Fvck their sickly sweet anthem.

We need arrogance and swagger to return to this club at some point like in the days of Henry and Bergkamp.

Playing your opponents anthem to players doesn’t fit that.

Ishola70

Guys Liverpool is such a frightening place to go that I am going to get you acclimatised to their cauldron.

Fvck that.

You are losing the mental game with them straight away.

You are elevating them right from the off.

Madhu

Regarding player purchases, i think we should have some internal high limit say 50 M beyond which unless the player is at the level of a Mbappe or Haaland etc we should just walk out of the deal. There are plenty of players in the world below 50M who are hungry and waiting to explode. We would do well to invest in such players and have considerable resale value as well. Iam still not able to understand Torriera’s motivation as chosen to go to Turkish league from Arsenal without even giving a hint of a fighting for his place. He… Read more »

Mysticleaves

“Looks like another apology from Nigel Tufnell is forthcoming as he has history of making himself look a prick.”

😅😅 I agree

DigitalBob

Only two more sleeps guys!! Can’t wait! I liked the whole playing YNWA at training thing, nothing wrong with the attempt at all. I doubt the amazon doc will be anything but good PR for Mikel and Arsenal. As Pedro said it seems the managers always come out looking good because they’re the ones that have the power to ok the cameras into the inner sanctum that is the dressing room. I would have loved an all or nothing showing the invincible season or even any Man Utd season with Fergie! In terms of transfers, the Leno move to me… Read more »

Northbanker

From Twitter
BREAKING: Arsenal have agreed a fee with Leicester City for the transfer of Youri Tielemans [
@David_Ornstein
] #afc

Mysticleaves

Madhu I think you’d find out that it was Arteta that told Torr in very certain terms that he wasn’t needed “from the start”. Torr only alluded to “suffering in England” after he made it clear that he wasn’t wanted by Arteta initially. And we saw it play out too. Under Emery, no one knew that Torr didn’t like England because he was important, playing and strutting his stuff every where he went. Heck he even gained cult status esp after his Spuds master class. All went to shit as Arteta took over. He immediately benched Torr and Guen for… Read more »

Mb

I’m with you, Ishola. Fuck those cunts and their YNWA shit.

Northbanker – probably fake, nothing on Ornstein twitter timeline as of now

Mb

Mysticleaves

Not sure if Arteta mixed up Torreira with Ozil initially, lol

Mysticleaves

Yea. I immediately thought that once Liverpool learnt they had that psychological advantage over us then the next match at Anfield will be twice worse in terms of atmosphere (from the fans) and arrogance (from the players).

That sort of thing you never ever let it out. It’s a shame

Mysticleaves

Mb, 😂 very likely.

Very weird that guy. Tried to save our worst signings (Xhaka, Mustafi) while jettisoning players of quality potential (Torr, Guen).

Mr Serge

LT AMN and Bellend are all self obsessed little mooches man up and do your best to play for a massive club
Talent with none of the balls to fight fuck em

Madhu

Mysticleaves – fair point, as much as i blame Arteta, its down to the player to make up their career. Going from Arsenal to Turkish League at the ripe old age of 26 is bizarre. What is to be noted is that he is not considered a flop by any means. His insistence of being able to play only in Italian League didn’t help him much. Then he wanted to go to LiverPlate. Whatever it is as a professional sportsman if you lay out your cards so openly its always a dangerous proposition.

Markymark

Not sure all or nothing will bang – more like a comedy piss take I suspect that lots of supporters of our rival clubs

Mysticleaves

Jenks and Frimpong begged all they could to play for Arsenal. As far as the coach want you, fuck your professionalism. For me, I don’t blame Torr one bit. Arteta didn’t and still doesn’t want him.

If wanted Xhaka, so he went all out and had one on one conversations with him. Practically begged him to stay. So there’s that.

Mysticleaves

As far as the coach don’t want you*

Tom

Can we stop pretending all Arsenal players bought pre Arteta were shit and damaged goods in one form or another?
I couldn’t care less about a single player Arteta sold and for how much ( Leno included) as long as Kroenke keeps bankrolling new transfers, but the hypocrisy of some is just over the top.
Leno was the bees knees they argued only two seasons ago, and now they are glad we are saving his wages while shipping his unworthy ass off to Fulham for bag of Doritos.

Seriously, you couldn’t make it up.

Bob N16

Northbanker – can’t find the Ornstein tweet

Emiratesstroller

Mysticleaves

Torreira was never of the quality required at Arsenal. That was also borne out at Athletico Madrid.

He may have played better at Fiorentina, but Serie A is a weak league once you exclude the
three major clubs. Torreira is a mid table player in that league.

We paid £27 million for a player who no-one else in Europe is willing to spend £10 million for. If he goes to Turkey we will be lucky to get £5 million up front whatever the notional
transfer fee is. I doubt that we will get more than that from them.

Ishola70

Torreira wasn’t a poor player when he first arrived at Arsenal and he was playing every week.

That’s just re-writing history.

And Emery playing him further forward for a period because of his pressing attributes shouldn’t have seen the player de-rail.

The problem with Torreira was a lack of mental fortitude and willingness. Torreira decided he didn’t like England.

And it seems from that point on he has never truly recovered as a player.

Can happen.

Bob N16

Not comfortable with a lot of criticism going Bellerin’s way – a lot of it feels like it’s more to do with his off the field choices, veganism, fashion-choices than football reasons. Arrived at 16 in 2011 and has spent many years with us. No evidence of him not giving a sh*t, quite the opposite. Sadly he joins the long list of players who never reached their full potential due to injury. Sure he’s been well paid but we only had to pay £450k for him. Frustrating that we’re struggling to get a fee for him but look around it’s… Read more »

Ishola70

Bellerin was a strange one.

He was rated high as a youngster and looked promising.

Then he started to get erratic in regards consistency of performances.

Even when fans were labelling him as trash near the latter end of his Arsenal time he still put out some good performances.

Dark Hei

Bob N16

Same here.

I don’t care too much for his Wokeness but the femboy did put his best foot forward during those early years. You got to respect that.

At one point he was one of the best RBs in a stacked division and he got his contract because of that.

He hasn’t gone on strike or made stupid interviews to the press. He has also made himself available to go on tour. If you want a poster boy of a preening peacock, go see CR over at United instead.

Goobergooner

ES,

I’m mostly in agreement with our sales.

Leno and bellerin (and guen) should have generated much more in terms of value for our club

Emiratesstroller

Ishola 70

I watched most of Arsenal’s games at home when Torreira played. He was and is a very average player.

For a start he is too lightweight for the DMF position, which explains why he was moved
to a more forward role. Realistically he lacked the skill base to play in another position.

The fact that no other club in Europe is prepared to pay £10 million for him is a clear pointer
of his commercial value.

Goobergooner

Markymark 8:43

That’s a good laugh

Pierre

“Guaranteed if Saliba makes a mistake, the Arteta disciples will see it as a sign that he was right to loan him out last season …..that’s how it works on le grove.”

So true

NW9 gunner

On this day 1999 we signed Henry and the rest is legendary

Ishola70

That’s not true ES.

Torreira was contributing positively to the side when he first came in.

He was very much part of the unbeaten run that Emery went on in his first season.

This lightweight jibe is throwaway and strawman.

Ishola70

Torreira lost his appetite for the reasons discussed on here before.

Emiratesstroller

The test of Arsenal’s status as a club and the quality of its squad will come when one of the
major clubs in Europe make a serious offer for our players.

My concern at the moment is that Saka is running down his contract and there does not appear to be a new contract on horizon.

The only player in last 5 years to have joined an Elite Club is Aubameyang and he went to
Barcelona on a free at by all accounts a much reduced financial package.

Emiratesstroller

Ishola 70

As I pointed out to you Torreira moved to Athletico Madrid and he was dropped from their
team.

I doubt that would have happened if he was of the required level.

Torreira is a very average player whatever you may think about his time at Arsenal.

Dream10

18m for Leno and Martinez

35m for Ramsdale and Turner

Well done Edu?

Ishola70

ES You have not been reading what has been said. Torreira was an unhappy player and lost his appetite to previous at the end at Arsenal before he left for Atletico Madrid. When he first signed for Arsenal he was contributing positively to the side. Anyone that denies that is being economical with the truth. You can argue that him leaving Arsenal and going to Atletico Madrid should have seen his appetite come back but it didn’t to the extent that we saw when he first arrived at Arsenal. Can happen. Torreira was not good enough for Arsenal for the… Read more »

Matt B

The low selling price for Leno was likely to have been impacted by the very early purchase of Turner. Everyone knew Arteta didn’t fancy Leno and that he wanted out and with the arrival of Turner, we had absolutely no leverage.

We could have played our cards a little closer to our chest and maybe got another £1M or so…

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Why bellerin hate the club so?

Positive pete

Looks like Torreirra up to his old tricks.Apparently having second thoughts on his switch to Galatarasy.Rumoured Italian clubs to make late swoop.You know what that will be.A half eaten shit sandwich & a bottle of piss.Little toe rag.
As for YNWA being pumped out at training I’m with Ishola on that.Sends wrong message.Get the idea but……….. Also adds grist to the mill of c** ts like Agbonlahor on talkshite who hates us as much as o’Hara.And bigs up the dippers.Another opportunity to have a dig at us.

Markymark

Leno’s distribution was poor and he was bullied at Brentford.
We have to look who was in for him. If you’re the only team in town then you can set the price .
Imo the biggest mistake of Arteta’s reign to keep Leno over Martinez

Positive pete

So sales of the straglers so far is amounting to Leno & Mari.Bell end & Torreira can’t be trusted/ guaranteed Take your pick.AMN ,Pepsi.Zilch.

Dissenter

Remember when Pedro was going after the other Basque head coach [whom we shall not name] because he allowed the Arsenal bus driver to give a rousing team talk pep talk.

Guess who allowed the Arsenal photographer to address the squad before w a key game?
The other Basque manager.

Positive pete

F** k me.You couldn’t make it up.Joe Rodon from Spuds to Rennes.£16.5 million.We can’t get 16.5p for our dross.

Dissenter

If anyone knows any club that would have paid more for Leno
Come out of the woodwork and let’s know, don’t be shy now.

The market is what it is, can’t sell to imaginary bidders on blogs like these.

Mr Serge

Why you waffling Pete rodon has gone on loan with an option to buy for 20m euros they have not sold him it’s an option only

Mr Serge

You know we can all use Google right Positive Pete

Tony 2

Afternoon guys. Just watched another teaser from all or nothing. In it MA lets the club photographer to give the team talk b4 the speerz game. I kid u not. Rumours that Doris the tea lady is gonna give the talk on friday night b4 CP are yet to be confirmed

Mr Serge

I really liked the city one the spurs one was a bit boring
I also enjoyed the juve one
Let’s see what our one brings I am not worried we all know how last season ended

Mr Serge

Onana from Lille going west ham apperently

Dissenter

Pedro, I remember when you relentlessly mocked another manager for daring to invite the club’s coach driver to give a pep talk. You acted like it was heresy. You were told at the time that it’s standard practice for coaches to break monotony by having outsiders address the team from time to time. Even the dinner lady who’s made the food for decades can have. role in motivating the team. Now we see that Arteta did the same.I bet you’ll call this elite management but you ought to be reminded you once thought it was rank comedy. This is not… Read more »

Dissenter

Westham have had a good window.
They got the players the manager wants in through the door. They’ll be stronger next season.

Dissenter

Onana is 6’ 5” and has a physical plying style.
Imagine combining him with Tomáš Souček who’s about 6’ 5”

Mr Serge

Diss and it will allow rice to roam further forward

Marko

I’m making a prediction we’ll be looking to sign up a new number one inside two seasons.

Marko

The market is what it is, can’t sell to imaginary bidders on blogs like these

I mean Liverpool are doing pretty well getting 18 million for Neco Williams and 13 million for Minamino not to mention City getting 30+ million for a backup LB. I mean why not sell Leno last season when it was clear that Ramsdale was favoured?