SELLING WITH A REPUTATION FOR WEAKNESS

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Amazon launched a new trailer for the All or Nothing series and it looks absolutely electrifying.

I remember there was this weird assessment from some folk that Arteta was meek in character, that wasn’t true as a player, and it wasn’t true as a coach. But, until people see it, they can say what they want.

Well…

Topline thoughts on this series?

It’s going to be electric.

Being successful in life is as much about timing as it is anything else.

Amazon timed this to perfection. They got in at ground zero of implementing a new strategy at the club. The series was nearly over as quickly as it was for Pochettino after 3 straight losses, but then all the action happened, 6 new players, a great winning run, and the 180 conversions of fans from wanting Arteta axed to truly believing in the club again.


Beau said it right.

Remind yourself again about how little you felt for the club this past decade. We were going nowhere, the players weren’t that interesting, and everything was all a bit boring and predictable. 4th was our lot in life and we didn’t know much existed past that.

Fast-forward to now. I’m feeling the pain of disappointment again, why? Because my expectations have been reset. I believe in this squad and its potential. I love the players because they have character and they go to war on the pitch for me. I respect the ownership group because they picked the visionary path with the new manager, they put a middle finger up to the short-termists, they rode out the temptation to make emotional decisions, and they invested BIG in winning over the long-term.

That will play out in this series.

Arteta apparently pushed to get the crew in at the club, I expect partly to fund transfers, part to create a bit of a resume builder.

These shows are make or break for managers. My suspicion? This will do a lot of good for Arteta’s profile. He has the corporate babble of a fast-tracked management consultant in America, but he also has the raw aggression and passion for the Arsenal badge that electrifies fans.

My guess? The people that have been complaining about our standards dropping since Arteta arrived are going to see what setting actual standards looks like. It’ll be interesting viewing because there’s a lot of table banging that my HR department would not tolerate.

Onto the football stuff, Ornstein has spoken, Zinchenko is ours. That’s a magical signing for all the reasons I pointed out yesterday. Check out my thoughts on the excellent Latte Firm.

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He also said that moves on new players might be exit-dependent.

  • Pepe
  • Nelson
  • Bellerin
  • Ainsley
  • Torreira
  • Leno
  • Mari

Let’s be real here, the reason no one has bid for our players is the reason my brother shops at Waitrose after 8… he knows those yellow stickers are coming out and there will be some steep discounts available.

Pablo Mari right now is an £8m player. In 3 weeks’ time, Edu is paying Napoli to take him off our hands. That’s how we’ve rolled and it’s difficult for us to undo the idea that we’re not whipping boys when selling.

To be fair to Edu, unless you are making up lies in the media about MASSIVE selling prices, it’s very difficult to get big fees for players that have failed. The only clubs spending this window are those that are in the Premier League, those that have won the Champions League, or Barcelona who have mortaged their future and spend the proceeds like they’re trying to crush the club.

… what I will say. Enjoy this last summer of selling players we don’t like. After this final flash sale, the only time we’ll sell talent, is likely when we don’t want to. There will be painful moments ahead. The only way we counter horror exits happening is to keep progressing.

Still, let’s not rule out a sale:

My man, Dom Dominique (Sporting Director Podcast), just informed me that Lucas Torreira is at Heathrow Airport today. Maybe that means he’s going for a medical somewhere?

Whatever happens; we need to shift on some talent just to declutter the squad.

The only player off that list I’d keep around if I could is Ainsley, who would be a top, top back-up right back. You can do something you dream of, or you can do something you didn’t dream of, but at the highest possible level for your talent profile.

Ainsley going to play midfield is the former. It might even be too late for him as back-up right back. I suspect the succession planners at Arsenal right now are looking at Reuell Walters and BNC, hoping that the squad can manage one more season with Cedric before one of those two is baked. As a total amateur, I might be tempted to keep one of the younger right-backs for Europa League, worse case scenario, Bill Saliba could cover if they aren’t up to it.

The only worry I have on the list of exits is Bernd Leno. With football players, you have to remember there’s a human there, and if you are too ruthless, you cause unintended consequences. Jesus and Zinchenko aren’t getting exits because they lack quality, they are getting moves for good service and the understanding you can’t make people play utility forever. Bernd is leaving because he needs minutes, but he’s still a top keeper, and rolling the dice on Ramsdale crushing it this year or Matt Turner hitting the ground running might be the biggest of risks we face.

Still, I am a Ramsdalian, he had dips at Sheff U and Bournemouth, he’ll have them at Arsenal, there’s so much upside to his game when he’s on form. Fingers crossed he gets in shape for game day one.

Right, that’s me done, we’ll be doing a Patreon later today about Zinchenko. If you want a piece of that action, sign on below!

P.S. thank you for all the kind messages about the baby! Thierrietta didn’t go down well for the name, nor did Bergy, Wrightina, or Giroulda. xxx

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Pierre

Brown nosing , arse licking – exactly what Arteta was doing to Raul when he was first appointed.

Ishola70

If Martinelli was put up front central for a prolonged period like Eddie N was then he could have done the same as Eddie N did = bang in some goals. It’s all about opportunity and having that opportunity for some sort of time period. And remember Eddie N has a couple of years on Martinelli in age which can be important unless the younger is an obvious complete worldie. Anyway it’s good that fans can argue in regards who is the better of the younger players such as Martinelli or Smith Rowe rather than who is the worse between… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Willian You are assuming that it was Arteta who made the decision to recruit Willian. The new contract given to Aubameyang was perfectly understandable because he had an outstanding season the year before. However, I think that it is unlikely that the club will repeat that exercise again. I am all for the policy of promoting young players from the academy, but they need to learn to walk before they can run. What is widely reported is that the best talent in the academy are training regularly with the first team so I am pretty sure that the coaching staff… Read more »

Bob N16

Dissenter, Just listened to Arsecast with James McNicholas who is reporting on our US tour. They had a discussion about which 33 players were taken and why. He’d asked this question to Arteta who felt that as he preached respect, unity and inclusion to his squad, it would have sent the wrong message to leave behind 7/8 players whose futures were uncertain. He said it was a difficult decision as he understood the value in young players getting experience of pre-season tours and game time but there was a limit practically to the number of players who could have been… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

https://youtu.be/0nOyn4N0ffg

Martinelli was electric last season and has the potential to become much better, as long as he gets playing time. He had 6 goals and 6 assists in 18 starts and 11 sub appearances last season, not too shabby for a 20 year old.

Wouldn’t buy a winger to block him and ESR, and we have adequate cover for Saka. With Zinchenko in we need a CM/DM and we’re set.

Freddie Ljungberg

And those goals + assists were in the PL btw.

Rich

China1 Smith Rowe was carrying an injury through the second half of last season, confirmed by Arteta in multiple press-conferences, and Smith Rowe himself. He’s injured again now, confirmed by Smith Rowe himself in an interview he did yesterday. It’s pretty hard for a player who hasn’t been training consistently, to play consistent minutes. This is just Pierre creating an issue where there isn’t one, I’ve previously posted links of Arteta confirming Smith Rowe’s fitness issues in the second half of last season, and Smith Rowe did an interview when he was away with the England under 21s a few… Read more »

Ishola70

I like what Smith Rowe brings offensively to the CAM position. In fact I would say he looks more dangerous offensively than Odegaard does in CAM. But as mentioned before Odegaard is picked over Smith Rowe at this time because the former is seen to have a more all rounded game than Smith Rowe at this time. Smith Rowe is very good in short burst plays and combination plays. Odegaard can also do this but not as dangerous looking as Smith Rowe. Where Odegaard wins out atm though is that he has a more progressive all round passing game than… Read more »

Rich

Diss I’d expect to see steady progress from Martinelli this season in terms of end product, but I don’t think we need to be too worried just yet. The PL top 10/scorers last season were Salah, Son, Ronaldo, Kane, Mane, De Bruyne, Jota, Vardy, Zaha, Sterling Only Ronaldo + Sterling out of those players, were playing consistently at the top level at 20 years of age, let alone producing regularly in terms of end product. Ronaldo got 11 goals + 9 assists at 20 for Man Utd in all comps, and that’s one of 2 of the greatest players of… Read more »

Ishola70

Martinelli’s future position is still CF for me.

Anyone who saw his headed goals in those Europa League matches a few seasons ago knows that is CF material.

The way he took those headed goals was CF play.

Bob N16

Ishola, if ESR was fully fit then there’d be much more pressure on Odegaard.

Bob N16

Ishola,

Completely agree about Martinelli. The timing and technique for those headed goals was exceptional. If he stays fit he’ll be a force to be reckoned with.

Ishola70

Bob N16 “if ESR was fully fit then there’d be much more pressure on Odegaard.” I’m sure there would. And if Smith-Rowe was fully fit and available for lengthy period then he could be seen as being a better bet for certain matches over Odegaard for CAM. But over the long run and matches as a whole even with Smith Rowe being fully fit you would still think Odegaard would get the nod over him because of the reason already stated. Just a more complete passing range than Smith Rowe at this time. Smith-Rowe could bag some goals in matches… Read more »

Pierre

Rich The reason i say this could be a make or break season is not so much about Martinelli’s ability , more about getting game time in the league . Let’s not forget that Arteta wanted Raphina which means a wide player would have to drop out and that wouldn’t be saka. You don’t pay 50+ million for a player and put him on the bench. Obviously Arteta must have some doubts about Martinelli or smith Rowe because out of Jesus, Eddie , saka, Martinelli, jesus , Odegaard and smith rowe , that is more than enough to compete in… Read more »

Rich

Arguing over who we should play out of Odegaard, Smith Rowe, Vieira, Martinelli, Eddie + Jesus Tierney or Zinchenko, White, Gabriel or Saliba… Are the exact type of problems we need. If we can create the space with exits, and add another quality wide player + attacking midfielder, we’ll be well equipped to pose a real goal threat on a consistent basis, across 4 competitions. I’d like another centre back as well, providing if we can sell Bellerin, Mari + Holding. This is what we’ve been building towards, this is what we’ve all wanted, and it looks like we’re gradually… Read more »

TR7

Ishola

“Arteta will still plump for Odegaard regardless because of the more expansive passing game he has over Smith-Rowe atm.”

I don’t think Odegaard has an “expensive” passing game. He is comfortable with the ball at his feet and rarely misplaces his passes but I think his passes are a tad predictable.

Ishola70

TR7

Odegaard has a more complete passing range than Smith-Rowe at this time and I say that without even being a big fan of Odegaard.

Smith-Rowe’s game is more about short passing combination play and dribbling at this time.

Ishola70

Smith-Rowe reminds me a little of Hleb.

Hleb was all about dribbling and short passing play rather than range of passing.

And we didn’t mind a bit of Hleb did we.

I’m just thinking want Arteta himself would want more at this time and the fuller range of passing from Odegaard seems to me want he wants.

McBright is Wright

Pedro: “McBright:His team is a reflection of his personality- meek, lame and cowardly”. It’s unfortunate I can’t write as much.as I love to. I have ‘nervous fingers’, if you know what I mean. However, Arteta is not perfect. Neither am I. Arteta’s Activeness on the touchline haven’t yet translated to a punchline. I wish him well. He is making gaint strides. Hope it turns out well for him and us eventually. He continues to show signs of greatness with the freshness he is adding to the team. I bit he would be restless until results goes his way. Can’t wait… Read more »

Ishola70

McBright

“Along the way, constructive criticisms are the fabrics elements that groom’s for progress”

This is what some posters fail to realise.

Even the manager and players themselves realise this.

Bob N16

ESR and Odegaard are very different players capable of playing in similar areas.With KT or Zinchenko play at LB then I can see plenty of opportunity for ESR to come inside- Martinelli too for that matter. Odegaard became too predictable in his positioning close to Saka. I would love to see a more fluid, flexible approach where ESR could at times swap over and come right and combine with Saka. Their interplay almost always produces moments of threat to the opposition. Agree with you Rich – it’s a happy position when there are plenty of worthwhile alternatives. Arteta is going… Read more »

Bob N16

“Along the way, constructive criticisms are the fabrics elements that groom’s for progress”

Whether the criticisms have always been constructive is a moot point! Often the criticisms become personal and far more destructive than developmental.

Not sure if it could not be reworded for that matter!

Rich

Pierre There’ll hopefully be plenty of games to go around. City had De Bruyne, Bernardo, Grealish, Foden, Sterling, Jesus, Mahrez, + Palmer, and they sold Torres in January, as well as gave McAtee + Delap some minutes here + there. Liverpool had Salah, Mane, Firmino, Jota, Elliott, Diaz, Origi They rarely play with attacking midfielders, their wide forwards starting positions are more inverted, and they usually get their width from their full backs., so that’s 7 players for 3 positions. That’s how they were competitive across 67 games, and came within a whisker of a historic treble, and that’s the… Read more »

Dissenter

Bob
“Whether the criticisms have always been constructive is a moot point! Often the criticisms become personal and far more destructive than developmental.

That’s a very hypocritical approach because I’ve seen you you join the anti-Xhaka mob several times and no one accuses you of “personal or destructive criticisms.

Ishola70

Let’s be honest though this talk of Xhaka playing further forward is going to be a spanner in the works isn’t it.

Not just a waste as Rich said but a big old spanner clanking the machine.

That’s a bit of constructive truthful critisicism for you.

Dissenter

United just got their come-to-Jesus moment

So it turns out that Frenkie de Jong has no interest in joining Manchester United because he dislikes the city and believes the club is run erratically.
I’m not so sure this should bother United since the same player didn’t flinch when he proudly signed for Barcelona, another badly run mega-club who have now refused to pay him owed wages. At least, United still pay their flops due wages.

I’m not sure Frenkie De Jong’s judgment is that great either.

Dissenter

Nottingham Forest are spending some good money this window.
It they get their act together, the likes of Everton are there for the taking to send down the relegation gutter.

Rich

Delighted if De Jong doesn’t go to United, brilliant player, at a good age, such an aesthetically pleasing player to watch… His wages very likely rule us out, I’d hate to see him rock up at another PL rival though. There’s been talk Bernardo wants to go to Spain for a while, and that Barca are interested. De Jong to City, and Bernardo to Barcelona seems like the most obvious thing, he might have to retract those comments about Manchester though…. If De Jong to United is off, then that’ll likely mean more competition for Tielemans, Paqueta, or that lad… Read more »

Graham62

Bob N16

I think we can all agree that the next season is a huge season for Arteta. Can he prove the doubters, folk like myself, wrong?

Personally, I think the criticism has been justified over the past two years but that’s me.

Arteta holds the reins and now needs to show us all that he really knows what he’s doing.

There will be no excuses left after this season.

I’m hoping he has learned from his mistakes.

Matt

Hleb and ESR are not similar players at all. Hleb was a massively frustrating player to watch. Loads of skill and dribbling ability, but the guy literally needed a golden invitation to take a shot. He would be on the goal line with the ball at his feet and he would be looking to [pass it. ESR will take a shot as soon as he sees a chance, which is one of his greatest attributes and why he is so effective.

Le Sauce

Graham No hard feelings man but I think you flatter yourself when you said can Arteta prove doubters like yourself wrong. Man’s not paid to do that, don’t place too much importance on yourself. If you watch the tour videos coupled with fan reactions last season the Kroenkes can definitely see that the fan mood has changed, £1M first day sales of the away kit says so The club has treated this rebuild like a long-term project and our signings prove so, once the man can deliver on his KPIs and the Emirates is rocking I bet he’s gonna see… Read more »

Graham62

Le Sauce

Ok, let me rephrase things.

Can Arteta prove to those many fans out there who still have doubts over his abilities, to lead us forward.

If I told you a large proportion of the fan base feel the way I do, would that help?

Graham62

“Pure excitement”

Based on the past decade or more that’s something I really look forward to.

Dissenter

From the Guardian -Before City’s friendly against Club América in Texas, Guardiola said Zinchenko would depart with the club’s best wishes, as he reunites at Arsenal with his former teammate Gabriel Jesus . “On behalf of the club [I would like to express] gratitude for the effort, how they behave on and off the pitch,” Guardiola said. “It was nice with Alex yesterday because we could say goodbye properly. Unfortunately with Raheem [Sterling] and Gabriel we could not do it because it was the summer time but yesterday we could say goodbye to him and [he can] move on to… Read more »

Marko

Yeah I never really buy into the whole feel good project great path forward under Arteta nonsense that regularly gets pushed simply because there’s nothing to back it up outside of spending money and making signings and nothing placates or excites the fans more than a player signed. Outside of that performances on the pitch and consistency of results still leaves a lot to be desired. Fact is he’s got zero excuses this season and if things don’t improve he should be gone. Top 4 or bust any sort of bad run of games/performances he should be gone too. As… Read more »

Graham62

Marko

100% spot on.

Bob N16

Dissenter, I accept my criticism of Xhaka may be sometimes over the top but the reasons I want him gone are footballing ones, nothing more nothing less. We need a better player in his starting position. He’s definitely my weak spot! For the most part I’d hope my comments are constructive though. Graham, there have undoubtedly been areas that even Arteta himself would admit where he hasn’t been great. That said the owners have backed him as a novice manager, accepting he’ll make mistakes along his learning curve. It appears the players are behind him and the squad is together… Read more »

Graham62

Let’s hope the Lionesses can do it tonight.

Come on England!

Graham62

Bob N16

I’ve been supporting Arsenal for 54 years.
I always look forward to the new season.

Bob N16

Marko, no factoring in mistakes from a novice manager during his first couple of seasons? Do you believe that KSE didn’t accept there would be a learning curve?

I can understand the argument that we shouldn’t have given the job to a novice but to expect Arteta to be the finished article is clearly ridiculous.

Bob N16

I understand that Graham but after a few years of mediocrity it’s that much more exciting to believe that we might just have the makings of a proper team-hungry for success, talented, young and improving together.

Tom

July 20, 2022 11:28:11 Xhaka on Arteta ““He is a freak in a positive way. Tactically, he knows everything. How he prepares the team before training, before the games, is unbelievable. I had a lot of coaches, but I have to put Mikel as one of the top ones in my career.” That’s quite the endorsement considering the names of Xhaka’s coaches since he turned pro: Lucien Favre, Andre Schubert, Thorsten Fink, Heiko Vogel, Vladimir Petkovic, Murat Yakin. Any takers? Clearly he couldn’t have talked about Wenger since as everyone on Legrove knows Wenger was washed up by the time… Read more »

raptora

We shall achieve our goals with the power of friendship.

(Pushing injured players back into the pitch [Arteta on Partey] and defending opponent players ahead of ours [Xhaka to Tierney] is allowed though)

Rich

Marko Don’t mistake positivity around the general direction of our squad, positivity around the massive potential of some of our young players, and positivity around the common-sense nature of our signings so far…. As being overly pro-Arteta, or having unconditional support for Arteta, because they’re different issues. (At least for some of us) I don’t see us doing anything rash after disappointing results, realistically we’re going to lose games next season, begrudgingly we have to accept that, we’re not yet at the stage of delivering 90-100 points, but expecting a significant increase on 69, is a reasonable demand/expectation. Expecting to… Read more »

Dunchirado

@ Le Sauce, well said

Nigel Tufnel

Jonnygunner,

I am sympathetic to people with learning issues or difficulties understanding simple concepts.

I’ll try to make this simple for you.

I can, and will put down spurs and their players whenever I feel like it.. this is the Arsenal blog.. so it’s a safe space to do that.

Any criticism I’ve made of other people talking about spuds would only be because they were being too complimentary of the lily-white scum, or overrating their mediocre transfer business. Defending Tottenham often here is just a weird way for someone to behave.

I hope you can understand all of this.

Nigel Tufnel

Tr7 says:

“Both Viera and ESR seem to be more equipped than Odegaard as CAM. In case Arteta appoints Odegaard Captain of the team it won’t be in the best interest of the club. Someone who deserves to start for us should be appointed the leader of the team.”

Says a clown who’s never watched Vieira play a single game, maybe not a single minute of football.

….And you wonder why nobody takes your opinions seriously.

Le Sauce

Oleksandr Zinchenko has signed his contract as new Arsenal player, valid until June 2026. ⚪️🔴✅ #AFC..
From Fabrizio

Markymark

Not sure 🤔 if posted earlier but Whiggy is saying it wasn’t his decision to buy Djed Spence . Getting Mourinho vibes from this fella . Some see him as the special one , Personally wouldn’t be at all surprised if this all blows up.
Not sure many of would be happy if Arteta suddenly announced this about one of our new sightings

Dissenter

Nigel
You don’t speak for everyone when you say “nobody” takes TR7’s comments serious
Lets just set the record straight.
Opinions are like a restaurant menu here, you choose what you want but stop being so dismissive. No one is forcing anything down your throat.

zimmie2652

Hleb and ESR is really not that great of a comparison imo. To me ESR has more Nasri/Rosicky about him.

He has the same close control abilities, ability to beat a man, his work rate and effort have improved greatly, vicious shot when he wants and that eye for a solid one-two at any point. I think ESR like Nasri would also always favor themselves as a CAM.

Nigel Tufnel

Pierre: “The surprise for me was that after witnessing how well they linked together in such a short time, Arteta decided not to play them together v Everton. Maybe it was Arteta’s way of saying no one influences me of who plays with who.” Comical opinion from Pierre trying to stir up shit about Eddie, his new fetish. How well they’ve linked together already? These are glorified practices. You’ve been calling for Eddie to start with Jesus before a ball was even kicked… I get it… it’s now the Eddie agenda every day.. (Ozil, Willock previously). Eddie is going to… Read more »

Le Sauce

Rich 100% spot on, I for one feel Arteta is lucky Arsenal aren’t ones for making rash decisions on managers and I doubt he’ll have lasted this long in any other club. The man was handed an extension during our losing streak so that should be an indicator on the mindset of those behind him, rather than keep harping on about make or break seasons why don’t we all just go into the season with an open mind and try to enjoy every moment. If the man fails miserably in a manner deserving of a sack he’ll be let go… Read more »

Tom

Thanks Jonny, Dissenter, Ken, Matt B, and Bacaryisgod for sticking up for sanity around here as much as for myself.

Bacary, I don’t admire Conte or Kane but like you said their records speak for themselves.

As for getting trolled by the handful of Pedro’s minions………..don’t care.
And least of all for some johnycomelately who thinks that by sticking his tongue firmly between Pedro’s cheeks he gets to run the comments section lol.

Jonnygunner

Nigel,
I’ve been patronised by far more intelligent people than you.
Clearly it’s an Arsenal blog,but there’s always chat on here about other teams and their players- its what makes it such an interesting blog.
Don’t be such a butt hurt little bitch. Typing acid like remarks behind the safety of your keyboard is typical of you. Your traits are here for everyone to see.
Have a word with Pedro when he mentions Spurs would you?….you’ll be busy.

Rich

Markymark

Arteta says positive things publicly about Willian, Cedric + Mari signings, and some are 100% convinced they were Arteta’s signings, and Sanllehi had nothing to do with it….

But if Arteta had gone in two footed on the signings, like Conte has on Spence, they’d have crucified him for at least not publicly backing the new signings…..

Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.

Amazingly I don’t expect to get much objective criticism of the Spurs manager on this Arsenal comments section, let alone unfair criticism, which should also be expected in large doses.

Bob N16

I saw that MarkyM, thought it was a strange thing for Wiggy to say about a player that’s just arrived at the club., Effectively saying‘ I wouldn’t have signed him if it been up to me’. Not a great confidence booster for Spence!

salparadisenyc

Problems with opinions and LG is when some have stated theirs it’s almost definitive in stone for them, failing to amend regardless holding the agenda like a diminishing bottle of water whilst being lost in the desert.

That for me is what makes this space pretty special, the ego is immense.

Markymark

Le Sauce -Very well said.
I’d simply add to your point that commentator’s , pundits are reflecting on the atmosphere at the Emirates positively and probably for the first time. The end of season send off at the Emirates a major case in point . If the supposed large sections of the fanbase were against Arteta then it’s an odd reaction seen at the ground .

Ishola70

Matt

“Hleb and ESR are not similar players at all”

In regards short passing combinations and dribbling they are.

I didn’t say exact same players if you read back.

I said a bit like and the bit like is the dribbling and short passing combinations.

It seems you missed the main point that was being made and that was the thought is that Odgaard gets the nod over Smith -Rowe because of more range of passing.

Positive pete

What’s the craic?😄

Positive pete

Unless the club are going to pull a surprise rabbit out of the hat.Looks like it’s down to the final two of Tielemans or Paqueta .?

Markymark

TT – it’s not trolling to totally disagree with what you say and how you come across. I’m still interested to know who you think I am? As you appear to suggest I’m double posting.
You’ve then got Jonny doing his intellectual superiority act before adding “ Don’t be such a butt hurt little bitch”
If Jonny can’t see it . I guess there’s no explaining
Let’s just say he who used profanity first is usually on the wrong side of an argument

Dissenter

Tom
When I started posting on legrove, you just never smeared a regular poster with the Tottenham label. It was was than the sin of witchcraft.

The entire blog stopped to shout out that type of nonsense.
Calling a gooner a spuds fan is one of the lowest blows anyone can throw to rebut a point.

You could call someone a the f-word, c-word, mudaf**ker but never tar the poster as a Spud

Pierre

Someone give Nigel Tufnell his meds before his brain explodes.

salparadisenyc

Dissenter people been called Spuds on this site from the get go.

Tom

“Amazingly I don’t expect to get much objective criticism of the Spurs manager on this Arsenal comments section, let alone unfair criticism, which should also be expected in large doses.”

What a bunch of horseshit, Rich.
Conte is a whiny bitch who spews nonsense as often, if not more than most of them when things don’t go his way.
And he’s a complete hypocrite.
This has been said about him countless times and no one argued.

Dissenter

“Dissenter people been called Spuds on this site from the get go.”

Yes, Sal but not regular posters. It was deemed a low blow then, wasn’t it
We had trolls roiling through that were tagged instantaneously, It was clearly obvious those fleeting posters were just trying to get a reaction.

Jonnygunner

MM

I didn’t try and come across as intellectually superior- go back and re-read my comment .

Tom

MM, fuck off!

Samesong

“Someone give Nigel Tufnell his meds before his brain explodes.”

💊💊💊💊💊💊💊💊💊💊💊

Positive pete

How times have changed then Diss.Back then there wasn’t probably the same degree of repetitive trolling which at times bordered on the vitriolic.Hence Pedro dishing out a number of bans for the worst offenders or offender( if mutiple personality disorder)
After all it’s an Arsenal blog not a Spud love in.

TR7

Nigel on odd days : what kind of human being seeks validation from strangers on internet

Nigel on even days : no stranger on internet values what you say, so you can just shut up

You really are an obnoxious clown Nigel who makes this place less and less attractive with every idiotic posts of yours.

Markymark

TT – well if I am a troll like you believe I obviously got to you.

Dissenter

Positive Pete Pedro was the first-born of the anti-Wenger clan and this blog reflected him at the time. What you call trolling now is just child’s play compared to what went on then. That’s why I will always hold Pierre dear even though I don’t agree with him about Ozil The man is an original. He was the one wearing the “Positive Pete” toga then, defending Wenger. He went after Emery when it was needed and he’s done the same with Arteta. It’s always interesting reading Pierre even if it’s just to spot the deft Ozil reference in a 700-word… Read more »

Jonnygunner

TR7
Thats why Pedro himself has warned him on several occasions.

Matt

This x 1000

‘Nigel on odd days : what kind of human being seeks validation from strangers on internetNigel on even days : no stranger on internet values what you say, so you can just shut upYou really are an obnoxious clown Nigel who makes this place less and less attractive with every idiotic posts of yours.’

Tom

Not even close dipshit,
Mine answering you dumbass question posed yesterday would’ve been you getting to me.
Up your game and then we might talk.
Now fuck off.

Samesong

Getting the 🍿 out

Tom v Marky Mark
Nigel v himself and the whole world
Superfan AFC Forever v The peasants

Markymark

Tut tut TT – obviously feeling a bit upset today.
Now what does that first T stand for again ?

Ishola70

RP7
“Hleb and ESR is a good compaprison.
With one issues: Hleb’s great reluctance to shoot. If he shoots 5 times more, they are similar players.”

I think this has been addressed.

You give me one instance where they are not similar in regards shooting.

I give you two instances in where they are similar in regards short combination passing and dribbling.

It was never said that they were carbon copy players.

Just that they had certain style of play that is similar.

Markymark

TT – the amazing anger build up and hopeless comments over trollery and double posting ( you still haven’t said who I’m meant to be ) read my posts not one knock on Arsenal save the bitter disappointment of losing at WHL
You’re really twisting around in a mixed up world – yeah I know f@ck off etc etc …,
I’ll get the popcorn out myself

Ishola70

Dissenter

I agree more with some of Pierre’s general points but deep down with him it’s still all about Wenger.

That’s why he shows this bias to certain younger players over others such as Eddie N over Martinelli going bananas over Willock.

It’s solely down to them being at the club when Wenger was still here.

He still wants that connection to Wenger.

Rich

Hleb was brilliant in tight spaces, creating space for himself + others, but he certainly had a phobia when it came to shooting.

Our 2007/08 team was underrated, we played some excellent football that season.

I still have no idea how we scouted Hazard, but came home with Gervinho in 2011

His right foot had no idea what his left foot was doing, one of the most uncoordinated footballers I’ve ever seen….

TR7

Markymark really thinks coining a term as lame as Tottenham Tom is a piece of genius but then I can’t fault him for thinking that given he has a negative IQ.

Tom

Dissenter, I get it of course. The whole point of bullying/trolling is to use the one thing that will hurt the most. Except I don’t give a shit about the Spurs rivalry because I’m not local. And I’m the Wenger era Arsenal supporter so not much of a rivalry then. It was united I hated with pashun since Fergie and the league fucked us over during Wenger years more than once. Positive Pete called me Totenham Tom because I drilled his ass more than once with facts( no debating skills required) and a few others with sore bums joined in.… Read more »

Crimson

I see there is lovely positive vibes on here today.

Flores off to Spain, the Mexican kids got talent. Probably a good league for him at the mo.
Taco Bell ain’t got nothing on him.

Ishola70

Pierre’s pining over Ozil wasn’t just about Ozil himself.

It was more about that he saw the last “star” player under Wenger’s reign slipping away and being replaced.

And even Pierre can’t bring himself to defend Xhaka anymore even though he is the last standing of Wenger’s boys now. Shows what Xhaka is really about doesn’t it.

Positive pete

Hey Tottenham Tom wind your neck in.I believe another poster earlier took the credit for your moniker.You spud prick.But seeing as you’re still lurking about lol😆

salparadisenyc

Dissenter, One thing LG rarely did back in the day was loose the banter where Spurs are involved, that’s something I firmly believe in and something thats gotten a bit lost on LG. Likely from our own insecurities about Arsenal’s current standing coupled w/ Levy going pro-active to their failings has gripped a few too much imo. They are Tottenham FFS. I’ve been witness to far too much to ever loose that. I”ll add i’m much happier with our current direction and side then i’d be if table were turned. Do I rate a few of their moves this summer,… Read more »

Un

TomJuly 20, 2022 16:40:00
Not even close dipshit,
Mine answering you dumbass question posed yesterday would’ve been you getting to me.
Up your game and then we might talk.
Now fuck off.

Tom
Ooof
Most unbecoming language

Markymark

TR7 – doh the negative IQ – from the most negative Arsenal poster and yeah I know you’ve supported since 1947 etc etc.

Markymark

TR7 – sadly I didn’t coin it , wish I had though

Positive pete

Oh & Tottenham Tom.I doubt if you could drill my ass with that chipolata of a pecker you have.Do. Us all a favour & f ** k off back to N17 .Now there’s a good boy.

Markymark

TT – Except I don’t give a shit about the Spurs rivalry because I’m not local.
And I’m the Wenger era Arsenal supporter so not much of a rivalry then. –
for FFS Tom what the hell is that comment – what do you when a Spud says we’re shit . Sit there like a nodding dog and agree with them ! Jesus wept man and you call me a troll

Tom

TR7 consider the level of stupidity on display here if you will; so I’m the fake Arsenal fan posting on Arsenal blog for years , but really a closeted Spud, so a complete liar.
But answering the question how Arsenal losing to Spuds would make me feel would settle the question of my bona fidis.

So secretly rooting for Spurs and against Arsenal for years wasn’t a problem for me, but telling one more quick lie would.

You were absolutely correct to call him retarded, and I was wrong for wasted my time engaging him.

Crimson

Arguments online are pretty pointless and boring. But whatever floats yer boat.

Hardly a mention of the game tonight.

Pierre

Ishola
You are beginning to sound like Nigel Tufnell now..

never a good look

Dissenter

Sal
I agree
The club is on the right path and the Kroenke’s have stepped up.
We all wanted former player to have more visibility the club — done
We wanted the dinosaurs in the boardroom to fade away—-happening as we speak

The kit sale records being broken by the day confirms that .

Dissenter

Crimson
The MLS team is going to give us the best test this preseason simply because the MLS in in mid season so they will be fit as hell.
It will be a good test.
I just wish we had lots of aspiring academy players in the team. I would rather like to see Flores than Bellerin trying hard at a preseason