NUMBER 9

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To the tune of Lou Bega, Mambo Number 9

ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, GABRIEL JESUS IS OUR NUMBER 9

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Should I shut down the blog after that suggestion?

Whatever.

Arsenal rattled 5 goals past Nurnberg, Gabriel Jesus was at the centre of a lot of the goodness, scoring his first with an awesome run and near-post finish. His second when he charged at the near post and scored with his head. His 3rd came from a near-post run and a lovely finish. He was also in the right position to force their defender into an error after Eddie hit the underside of the bar. Some say one of those goals was scored by Nurnberg. I refute that.

The game was super rusty in general. We went two goals down from two strikes. Matt Turner didn’t really live up to the hype in regards to his shot-stopping, allowing a long-range effort to swerve past him. The second goal they scored was more of a finish, but still not sure that performance will instill much fear into Ramsdale.

Other notable performances? Mo Elneny came on, took the game by the scruff of the neck, and scored a fucking SCREAMER. Say what you will about the Egyptian, but that form is fresh off the back doing exactly the same after our three losses in the Prem last season. He’s a good player and he showed he’s going to be more than capable of rotating with whoever our pivot is next season.

It’s early days for judging new signings, but Marquinhos looks physically at Premier League level, and he was an absolute terrier when he came on. He might get shipped out on loan, but I liked the look of him, he’s hungry, that’s what I loved.

Hector is going to get moved on, he’s not the ticket.

Ainsley started, is there a way back for him as back up right back? Doubtful. Which is a shame.

Kieran Tierney went off before 45mins was up. We really, really, really need to secure a very good left back for next season because KT will always break. Lisandro Martinez is still in the mixer, he is the chosen one, if it’s not him, get Zinchenko in the red and white.

The big talking point?

Gabriel Jesus.

He gave me all the sexy feels rocking that #9 shirt.

Things I like:

Elite movement

  • Pace
  • Connectivity
  • Powerful pressing
  • Energy
  • Superb finishing
  • Leadership
  • The unique ability to create something out of nothing from a standing start. Suarez-like in that respect

He also scored a header to put my Tall Boy Summer ideas in the bin.

There was also more chatter on the story we’re all hating at the moment.

The club involved apparently knew of player assault allegations last autumn.

I’m going to give you the club thinking on the issue, not from first-hand accounts, but how businesses have to think about these things.

* Before I get into this, my thoughts are with the alleged victims. It is brave to come out against powerful footballers. Especially considering how grim football fans are, especially in England. They deserve their day in court if the evidence is there. *

The club in question has legal and ethical issues.

Legally, you can’t sack someone based on allegations. Presumption of guilt because the internet demands it isn’t reality nor should it be, we’ve seen enough cases go the other way lately to throw caution to the wind before weighing in as judge, jury, and executioner.

A club can suspend a player, but usually, there will have to be some clear indication that the party is guilty. Either because they own it or there is enough evidence to support a suspension.

CR7 was accused of quite the crime in 2009. That case was re-upped, it was an allegation, but a judge threw it out.

Yves Bissouma was accused of a crime last October, after an 8-month investigation, no charge was forthcoming.

Both played.

Benjamin Mendy was only suspended when he was charged.

Mason Greenwood was suspended without charges, but there was online evidence from his victim that made his position untenable.

A basic judicial principle in England is you are presumed innocent until found guilty.

There are ethical issues involved here and there will be consequences for the club in question.

If you play an alleged serial rapist while you wait for charges, then the player is charged, you will be eviscerated by your fans, by the papers, and all manner of organizations who will call you irresponsible and the protector of a predator.

It’s lose/lose for the club in question.

Suspend a high-profile name, damage your short-term goals, waste huge amounts of money, and the player is innocent… you have butchered a career out of caution.

Play a high-profile monster and charges come, you have propped up a disgusting human.

This is a decision that will require sound leadership. If I were to put money on it, I’d say that the club will wait until there is a charge and hope the name doesn’t get out.

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AFC Forever

Andy

If it’s nothing to do with Arteta why was Dissenter rambling on about non-negotiables and Arteta getting rid of players for less?

If you’re siding with Dissenter then of course I’m bloody right!!! Of course it’s your bloody agenda. Everything usually is.

GoonerDave

Andy
Unfortunately, I haven’t heard the term “junior school” in a very long time. Therefore, I must completely disregard your comment.

andy1886

AFCF, thanks for the reply but I still don’t see what it has to do with Arteta neither have I seen anyone apart from you say it does. You brought it up and made a connection so it’s a bit rich to ask why people might comment on that.

I didn’t see the game yesterday but by all accounts Jesus had a very good game. I’ll be at the Emirates for the Seville game so looking forward to seeing him and any of our other new players in the flesh for the first time.

AFC Forever

We dissenter

Now you are trying to worm your way out. Nice try. But your previous comments are in black and white.

You’re lying. You explicitly linked non-negotiable and compared getting rid of Guendouzi to not getting rid of Partey (who has been all godly linked to a crime).

It’s in the comment section you cant deny what you said.

AFC Forever

*allegedly linked to a crime.

Let’s be very careful here when we talk about Partey it’s just an allegation and supposition.

andy1886

GoonerDave, true, it’s a term that went out of vogue long ago. Still can’t work out what year 11,12 or whatever is in terms of age. Told my grandkids that I had my Rubik’s Cube confiscated in Sixth Form and they didn’t have a clue what any of that meant!

AFC Forever

Andy

“AFCF, thanks for the reply but I still don’t see what it has to do with Arteta neither have I seen anyone apart from you say it does”

Your either bullshitting or ignoring what has been written. I concede defeat.,

Goobergooner

Freddie Le Grove sanity is definitely a bit different 😂

Dissenter

AFC We were talking about an ethical dilemma in response to Pedro’s original post One extreme is to let him play, the other was the non-negotiable approach. Even Pedro made mention of the extremes of choices the club has and that’s no-win. The non-negotiable was brought up as part of the quagmire of what do you do. I repeatedly wrote that there’s no right answer. You’re obsessed with your pet peeves and you always derail conversations to take you to them rabbit holes. In your mind, you’re the superior fan shining your glorious light on us paupers. Arteta ffs? You’re… Read more »

Positive pete

Must say Eddie looked sharp yesterday.Seems to have bulked up & gained more confidence.Also could it be he’s struck up a bit of a partnership with Jesus.Early days I know.& bearing in mind the level of opposition but looks promising.

Dissenter

I’m glad we kept Eddie
We saved ourselves another major embarrassment

Un

Pete

He looks like he’s gonna hit the ground running and linked really well with Jesus
Very encouraging from both

Sotongunner

on Jesus, all things considered seems him and eddie linked up as well. Hopefully is the plan to play 2 up top against low block.

Emiratesstroller

The Daily Telegraph have updated today developments in the ” alleged”rape case” which makes interesting reading. 1. The player’s club received the first complaints about the player 11 months ago. That allegation was made last August and reported to Scotland Yard. The complaint was passed on to an overseas force linked to complainant. 2. In March the Metropolitan Police launched an investigation having established “jurisdiction” and then received a second complaint in February. Apparently his club have known since last autumn that the player was under investigation. 3. The player had been arrested last Monday concerning the latest complaint that… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

The significance of what I have just posted is that the Club have known about earlier allegations of rape from first woman since August 2021. So the arrest of the player was
under investigation is not a surprise albeit that the third alleged rape last month was
the reason for the arrest.

Un

Stroller

I read that this morning too
But what does it change? It doesn’t imply guilt does it? At this stage they are just yet to be proven allegations and could well be a shakedown by a disgruntled ex gf and a holdiay fling

Markymark

News Now are reporting it as Partey and that it’s his wife who had put in one of the complaints

Bertie Mee

https://iharare.com/thomas-partey-arrested-for-rape/
This report suggests strongly he has been set up

G

‘’ But why go and play Nurnberg – a Bundesliga 2 side? Why not a top-10 Bundesliga side for a friendly? Or, are we ?‘’

Mate it was more for fitness and integrate 1 or 2 players….

G

On the flip side RP7 .. in India some rapes guys with money will get away with rape cause they’ll pay off the police..

Vintage Gun

The latest Party update if true fits into what I’ve heard and what a few others on here were also hearing. That his new wife was one of the accusers. Regarding the first accuser i heard that the two allegations SHE made were based on TWO separate occasions. Although this doesn’t prove or dispel the allegations, it certainly adds layers of complexity to the case. For example, why would the first accuser meet up again with their alleged rapist? Why report the issue to police after the 2nd incident and not the first? Again I’m not declaring his innocence or… Read more »

Un

I’m telling you
This is a stitch up
I’ll guarantee it

Un

Vintage

Exactly what I’ve been asking which makes me Harvey Weinstein apparently

Un

But why did he convert to Islam for her then announce t publicly after the alleged incident?

Vintage Gun

“Exactly what I’ve been asking which makes me Harvey Weinstein apparently” Well to me it just makes you open minded which is probably classed as worse if you go against the grain these days. I have all the sympathy in the world for REAL victims of rape. And if Party’s accusers claims are true then i hope the law throws the book at him. But here’s the thing, I’m not going to call on him to be banned/suspended or jailed just because two women have made allegations against him as it would insinuate that an accusers claim should be taken… Read more »

Bob N16

Un, you don’t know the facts but are implying the accusations are a ‘stitch up’. Wouldn’t it make more sense to reserve judgement until the facts come out otherwise people might accuse you of not taking rape accusations seriously.?

The police are clearly taking it seriously.

Adams

The cases of rape and sexual assault are on the rise among footballers this days. I don’t even know who to trust between the players and the alleged victims.

China1

Wilshere has officially retired

Thanks for the memories Jack. Your career might not have sustained your true level for long due to injuries but deary me you were *awesome* in your youth.

And who can forget his best goals?

All the best to him even more so as it looks like he’ll coach an arsenal youth team next

Nigel Tufnel

I’ve only stated the general point that a person is innocent until PROVEN otherwise. We would all want the same rights.
He’s our player and I hope he is found not guilty, and I hope it doesn’t ruin his season or career just because of bad publicity.

Emiratesstroller

Wilshire has been Coach of the U18s at Arsenal. He said that his football playing career was
sadly unfulfilled, but hoped to achieve success as a coach.

Personally I am glad that the club have offered him that job.

Emiratesstroller

Wilshire has been “appointed” Coach.

Adams

I like reull walters game yesterday. The guy is too confident for his age i hope he takes the next step like saka

Un

Bob

I suspect it is but would hold my hands up if I’m wrong.
Maybe it would be better to say less and wait but we are all here to share our opinions aren’t we? And while this does veer a little off of he sport itself it is highly relevant to our season and our club

Anyway. Let’s see