SPINNING PLATES NEED TO BE CAUGHT

by .

The news has not shifted in 24 hours, the Raphinha deal, something of a farce at the moment, is still up in the air.

Barcelona just clawed its way out of debt this year, so they might be dim enough to plunge themselves back into it.

Chelsea’s Todd B is just running around having a great time with his new club, so who knows how real their interest is in the Brazilian.

Arsenal still think they are in the mixer, but don’t want to waste time with a new bid if the player doesn’t fancy it.

If it happens, amazing, if it doesn’t, we’ll move on another player that is of a similar quality.

Spurs, fresh off a rejection from Gabriel Jesus, have spent a whopping £60m on Brazilian Richarlison. The player has always threatened to be good. He’s big, he’s strong, he looks like the front cover of a FIFA game, but the reality is, he’s never delivered. £60m should buy you a forward that has, at least once, scored more than 15 Premier League goals in a season. His biggest assist haul is… 5. They are buying potential and a player that is known for being a pain in the arse. I am game for the move. There are more dangerous ways Spurs could have spent the money they borrowed this summer.

As for the ‘better than Jesus’ crowd… Spurs went for Jesus first. Not even Conte is in agreement with you.

Edu continues to do the lords work with contracts, there are strong rumours that we’ve tied Martinelli down to a new 5-year deal. That is immense, especially as we know Jurgen Klopp is a super fan. I like that we’re not living in a SIGN DA TING world these days.

The big one, obviously, is Bukayo Saka. I’d be more worried about it if there were rumours about other clubs circling. I suspect this next deal will be fairly easy for Arsenal, but the one after is going to be very dependent on Arsenal being a top-level team that competes for the big trophies.

Arsenal are still hunting down Lisandro Martinez, but United have entered the picture. If it’s about who can offer more money, we’ll lose. If it’s about who has the best project and the most intent on the deal, it’ll be Arsenal. Let’s see where that one goes. Arsenal are going all guns blazing this window to make sure Arteta has as much time with the players as possible.

Ok, short one today. If you are DESPERATE for sexy content. Matt, Johnny and Pedro recorded a pretty beastly podcast yesterday about all the goings-on in the world of transfers. I think you’ll like it. But… it’s on Patreon.

Become a Patron!

241 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Mr Serge

On top of that you call everyone on here thick,

Ok professor spud 😂😂😂

LoveSausage

So far, I’m loving the Chavs’ new owner. Comes across as one of those rich guys who doesn’t know what he doesn’t know. Even though there’s zero chance of him getting Neymar, I’d love to see it happen. A SoMe star / crybaby on a gazillion per week. Would be the end of them. It just sucks that he’s messing up our Raphinha pursuit in the process.

Mr Serge

Let’s just get in serge he would be perfect for us

DUIFG

Puff propaganda

Dissenter

All the Dutch transfer watchers are saying the same thing; Lisandro Martinez is desperate to link up with his former manager at United.
I hope we have contingencies ready because a windows excitement can easily dissipate with arepewated “rejections”
The club probably knows that by not releasing the Jesus signing video; they’ll use to to deflect negative news.

Mr Serge

Diss I don’t think man u have bid for him we have if Ajax accept then we should get him unless man u jump in at that point
It’s still up in the air

Jonnygunner

Mr SergeJune 30, 2022 22:30:32
Tom you are an embarrassment to this blog
How many times are you going to big up the scum
Disgusting carry on

Mate…grow up ….

Mr Serge

Johnny grow up wtf the guy comes on here every day kissing conte arse this is an arsenal blog you jog on as well

Selva Govender

Pedro Neto Anybody

Emiratesstroller

Arsenal have updated their squad details on their website. As yet they have not included Jesus
or Turner.

However, interestingly Bellerin has been added to the list and retained his 2 number. On the
other hand Messrs Mari, Torreira, Maitland-Niles and Nelson have not been included.

BacaryisGod

My expectations for this summer were low.

I would have been happy with Gabriel Jesus, Tielemans and better competition for Tierney at LB with Nuno heading out on a make or break loan.

I think it’s going to be looking better than that so unless we seriously flame out on our targets, I can’t criticize the ambition being shown this summer.

Why I Gunna

I’m afraid to say it but this is beginning to feel like a very Arsenal TW. Arsenal getting fixated on a player while failing for the millionth time to address the elephants in the room. Let’s watch as YT walks off to United as we keep hoping that Raphinha will choose us (news flash he’s not going to). The YT deal seems eminently easy to do so we don’t

Venga, Dani

Would still love Raphinha but honestly feel we need reenforcements more at CM (Partey role) and backup fullback.

If it’s cedric and tavares at fullback next year, its not going to do us much good to only be able to field 3 of Saka, Martinelli, Smith Rowe, Jesus, Nketiah, Pepe.

Then again they dont pay me to make these calls so

Venga, Dani

And the ITK people reckon Lisandro Martinez is not really a LB. He’s mainly a CB, but can hold his own at CDM but he doesnt have pace to bomb down the wing. So maybe like a slightly quicker version of Xhaka at LB. Doesnt really inspire me though

Nigel Tufnel

Dissenter, Bissouma is so overrated by the same people who were screaming for Mvila, Capoue and Aurier. Yeah he’s big and athletic, but he is not a special footballer. Passing not to important for a midfielder I guess. Don’t even give me stats about his passing because they’re safe passes and we want to do better than that. You will laugh, but that’s elneny level of passing. He would be a nice backup to Partey. That’s it. No other team was in for him but Levys bargain hunters. Someone said he would make us so much better right away… how?… Read more »

Nigel Tufnel

By the way, I’ve mentioned those names many times.

It’s very odd that not one single person is still on legrove that wanted those sh1t players I listed.

I admitted I wanted Aurier, even though he was a bad character.

Not 1 person here with the guts to admit how wrong they’ve been over the years on many names.

There are some clowns posting here currently, who wanted all of those players. What a joke that they can’t admit it.

Goobergooner

Nope can’t have it. Too many “Arsenal fans” talking up Conte and richarlison. (And talking down bissouma)

Sheesh imagine having an opinion without rose tinted glasses.
Shame on you

Goobergooner

Nigel, your ‘buffouma’ take is one of the most horrible on here

Dark Hei

Stroller

That is interesting. Is Cedric on the list as well?

Goobergooner

Markymark, Well if the same logic that’s bandied around here for Arteta needing more than 2.5 seasons to establish a team in his own image, then why shouldn’t we expect a bit more from Conte next season in his first full season there?!? I agree slagging off spurs is fun. But they came back from the same place we were in when Arteta arrived, to then come 4th, where we achieved 8th. They seem to be strengthening. And they absolutely pummelled us at theirs to steal top 4 from our grasps. I for one can’t rule them out of not… Read more »

Goobergooner

Talented* young players we can all get behind and watch grow over the next few seasons.

I think I may have been seduced by edus annoying interview where he gave no indication of any objectives other than to just watch the boys play together 😂

Dark Hei

Maybe Conte is a going to stay a long time at Spurs? Maybe he is like Jose Mourinho who is changing over at Roma.

Why not you all Conte Superfans hop on over to the other side because my Spurs- discriminatory DNA is kicking in and I am about to go full woke-cancel rampage.

Goobergooner

Weagle, this comment below is it 100%, and in all honesty if we had pulled off raphina but no xhaka replacement I would have been annoyed exactly the same as with the club’s priorities as last season. (A lot still to go in the window yet, so not ruling out anything, we could bring in a rw and a lisandro type to cover multiple positions and a cm as in tielemans and everyone would be absolutely pumped) “It was never personal towards White, well at least personally speaking. The frustration came from spending £50m of our £135m kitty on a… Read more »

Nigel Tufnel

Goober,

I’ll stop ripping Buffouna as soon as grovers stop talking(crying) about him..

That won’t happen until years pass with his mediocrity at spurs, then every single one of you here will pretend you never wanted him.

It’s what grovers do with most of their obsessions that turn out badly.

Goobergooner

Nigel, each to their own I guess haha

Goobergooner

What are you doing up so early?

benkind

raptoraJune 30, 2022 20:19:00 “He left Inter and they fought for the league till the last day.”And that’s after they had sold their 2 best players in Lukaku and Hakimi for a combined £160m. He bought them for £100m, made Inter champions, Inter sold them for £160m. What’s there not to like?! That’s incredible job right there. Made them champions for the first time in 11 years AND £60m profit within 2 years just like that. Brilliant one Raptora. Habesha I understand your comments and agree Conte gets the best of most players as a team. Absolutely he has his… Read more »

Goobergooner

Sid you’re a funny man

Markymark

I expect Tottenham Tom’s second line of defence to kick in anytime soon.
He’ll refer back to his Klopp loving posts as a spirited repost to all those naughty people claiming he’s the worlds biggest Spud Arse licker.
I know Tom, I’m thick blah , blah , blah

Thierry Martinelli

Tottenham Tom is an alright fellow. I too rely on Pedro for a daily dose of Conte/Spurs news and it’s bordering on annoying.
You can slag off whatever Conte is doing but deep down any football fan knows he’s going to be a very big problem next season.

Lak

Come on mate.

I’m excited about Jesus. And I get it Arsenal good Spurs bad but this article full of inaccuracies

Richarlison has scored materially more than 5 in a season

Richarlison is Brazils no 9. Jesus is a sub

The deal is rumoured to be £50m plus add ons

Spurs didn’t borrow money. Their owners invested more and increased their stake in the club. Equity not deb

Thierry Martinelli

Not many (if there were any) mentioned Martinez here before his name was put on the table. Now we’re praising him all over the web just coz he’s 25, from another league and can spray passes across the field. As it has been said, Xhaka was in Bundesliga team of the season.
The deal might not go through,another player will be linked (one we never expected) and we’ll relish the links

Terraloon

Left side Someone needs to tell Chelsea they have issues in Defence and Midfield, unless the new motto is: you score, we score more Like many others you are falling into the trap of going far too early in terms of judging other clubs transfer activities. The 1st July date is the real starting gun up to date now it’s really all about false starts indeed even the Harland deal isn’t yet official nor come to that Jesus to Arsenal I do agree however that Bohey seems to be operating in a strange manner but I have read the transcript… Read more »

Markymark

Thierry Martinelli – deep down I don’t think Conte is some sort of massive threat . A threat to what ? We’ve been trailing slightly behind the spuds for a little while now However our fall away is no where near that of the Spuds went through. Even during our period of ascendency we survived pizza gate and other near misses. We blew the opportunity last season ably assisted by a useless bastard referee at WHL. Fine margins and 2 points. Conte previously inherited a good Chelsea side. Carried momentum for a season then fucked them up. Most European leagues… Read more »

andy1886

Terra, Haaland is officially at City, he’s listed on their website as their player (picture looks odd, seems to have a tiny head!).

But I get your point with many on here (including the blog owner) talking about a side including players that we haven’t even signed and probably never will.

And there’s no such thing as a bad signing or sure thing until the football actually starts.

Terraloon

Andy.

He was still registered elsewhere till 30/6 so whilst it may well be in their website the registration can’t happen till today

andy1886

Mark, I’m not worried about Sp*rs, I wasn’t worried about Sp*rs last season either. We missed out last season because we blew it, and if we miss out this season it’s on us too. Yeah, I was incensed about the Son dive but that game was always a tough one (and tactically we were badly set up) but what really cost us were the losses at Southampton and home to Brighton where we were terrible for 80 minutes. Newcastle away was awful too but by then the wheels had come off.

andy1886

Terra, yes he was announced on 13/6 having signed a contract that would become effective on July 1st (didn’t stop them showing him in a City shirt though).

Terraloon

Andy And there’s no such thing as a bad signing or sure thing until the football actually starts. As has been witnessed with the Lukaku signing what appears to be a great bit of business turns out to the polar opposite. But what really makes me smile is that far too many have a laugh at others plights and just can’t see likewise Arsenal make the same mistake . As I say Lukaku has turned out terrible but they have immediately made a decision to address the matter. We don’t know what will happen if Lukaku has a great season… Read more »

Steg

Still need a LB and a CM urgently. Nelson and the vast swathe of young forwards we have can deputise for Saka so move on from this Raphina wa*&Fest We need to stop faffing around on a quasi CB/LB/CM hybrid aswell unless he’s the second coming and if that is the case, stop pissing around with offers that will get knocked back. The big one is still CM because if we are going in with a Partey, Elneny, Xhaka triumvirate supplemented with the young whippersnappers of Lokonga, Patino and Azeez (failed at Portsmouth) Arteta will be on a hiding to… Read more »

Habesha Gooner

Spurs will definitely improve next season. Conte mostly does well in domestic leagues. His record in Europe though is abysmal. They might even join us in the Europa league. The added quality from Richarlison and Bissouma will help them become a more consistent team in the league though. Plus Persic and the new WB they are going to sign will help them too. We have a better chance to secure more points in the first half of the season because we are basically playing kids and fringe players in Europe. If we start well then 3rd and 4th will be… Read more »

Markymark

Andy1886 – pretty much nailed on really can’t argue against that
It’s always on the team we support . We don’t do it , it’s our team . No point flapping as you say about others up the road

Aasim

So rather than talking about cunting spurs and their super cunting manager….lets discuss our players, their potential, ceiling and expectation for next season. pre the current transfer window, I thought we have 4 special players in our squad: – Saka: nuff said. the guy has great talent and great personality and more. he started as left back, and I still pine for his pinging deliveries into the box from his left dick, thus often wondering if his goal contribution would be higher from the other flank – TP: when not injured and on form, a supreme MFer. super press resistant,… Read more »

raptora

Is Aasim Pierre’s Dariano?

raptora

Nvm, he wants Saka back on the left flank and talked about Martinelli dribbling with his head down, but also points that Odegaard is a special ozilisque player and White is also among our top 4 players. 50/50 it is then.

Goobergooner

Haha rap nothing will come close to that episode 😂

andy1886

Never seen Pierre use the C-word though Rap, but I can see why you might think that.

Goobergooner

And there was a dick thrown in there too haha

Freddie Ljungberg

I always knew Saka was special, but didn’t know he had 2 dicks. Some guys are just blessed I guess…

raptora

Freddie loool

Goobergooner

But aasim good assessment. I hope white continues to improve. I rate our first 11 backline highly. With Saliba competing there too I think we are set for a while. While I wasn’t impressed with our priorities last summer window, I do like how white fits into the long term plan. So I can’t knock it in that regard. And he is a very good ball playing CB. And I was actually impressed at how much better he was in there air compared to what everyone was saying on here about his height and what not haha. MO will get… Read more »

andy1886

Terra, yes a few more sensible posters have commented on how we go from ‘never heard of him’ to ‘brilliant signing’ in the blink of an eye (Vieira for example). And Raphinha has gone from a great signing to ‘never wanted him anyway’ already. Meanwhile Bissouma ‘is just an athlete not a footballer’. All comments made from the heart rather than the head. On signings I’m not unduly worried by our approach. We’re neither going early at any cost nor are we hanging on for last minute bargains. It seems that we’ve decided what we’re willing to pay for a… Read more »

andy1886

Richarlison confirmed btw, would be nice if we trumped that later with the Jesus announcement. just to take the spotlight off that lot.

Thierry Martinelli

Andy, fair enough. At the end of the day sports is 99% visual game. What I see/think in a player, coach or team in general might differ from your view. But at the end of the day we can’t underestimate the teams around you.
On signings – I hope we can have all our inbounds ready for the pre seaso.

raptora

Looking at Pedro’s daily dig towards Spuds (he chose to build his fame this way not me) I’ve noticed a lot of spud fans post time and again how our guy Jesus is warming the bench for their guy Richarlison for the Brazil NT. Haven’t heard a bigger lie and the idiots keep repeating it like a gospel and they actually believe it without bothering to check the facts. It literally takes one minute. Both are 25 year olds. For the national team: Jesus – Squad: 58, Starting eleven: 44, Substituted in: 12, On the bench: 2, Suspended: 2, Injured:… Read more »

Foxy

We do not really need any more young signings for the future like Viera but a couple of tough and experienced pro’s to provide back up in Defense and Midfield until our next generation of hale enders like Norton-Cuffy and Patino are hopefully prem ready in 1-2 years time. It would be good if Azeez would now be up to at least cup games this season but if not maybe he has to be moved on or at least another Loan.

andy1886

@TM, Yes, I’d much rather us have deals completed before the season starts and for the new guys to get some time with their team mates before game one. The only mitigation is that (with respect to Palace) we have a pretty easy start.

Thierry Martinelli

Anyone out there saying Richarlison is better than Jesus is delusional.

Mr Serge

Thierry agreed
When we announcing it’s the longest transfer in history

raptora

What a great combo Richarlison and Spuds. Unlikeable player and shit club. Can’t believe he’s showing #1 with his finger. The only thing spuds have been #1 at is being delusional so I guess he fits there right in.

Habesha Gooner

Rap

No he is not.

“”””MO: a really good, dedicated player, with a very high footballing and emotive IQ. a very ozilisque player with a little less dribbling skill but more stamina and chase. “”””

He would never compare Odegaard with Ozil

Dream10

Lisandro seems to have a preference to play under Ten Hag. Just move on. Not a fan of him anyways

Any new links to attacking players?

DivineSherlock

There are actual people who rate Richarlison over Jesus ? I like both of them ( Not Richarlison anymore since he joined spurs) but Jesus is way better than Richarlison. Jesus single handedly won Palmeiras the title .

Emiratesstroller

This is the current updated first team squad listings published on Arsenal website. 1. Leno 2. Bellerin 3. Tierney 4. White 5. Partey 6. Gabriel 7. Saka 8. Odegaard 9. FREE 10.Smith-Rowe 11.Martinelli 12FREE 13FREE 14.Nketiah 15.FREE 16.Holding 17.Soares 18.Tomiyasu 19.Pepe 20.Tavares 21.Vieira 22FREE 23.Lokonga 24.FREE 25.Elneny 30.Turner 31.FREE 32.Ramsdale 33.Okonkwo 34.Xhaka UNLISTED Saliba Mari Torreira Maitland-Niles Nelson We can assume the following by the close of transfer window. Ramsdale will take over number 1 shirt when Leno leaves. The number 2 shirt will be vacant if and when Bellerin leaves The number 9 shirt will be allocated to Jesus… Read more »

raptora

With respect to Lisandro surely if we want to sign a LB we’d look into the likes of Zinchenko, Hickey, Renan Lodi, Borna Sosa, Tyrick Mitchell. I don’t see the logic of buying a 24 and a half yo CB that has played a total of 10 LB games in his career. I’m not sure if he could thrive in the EPL being 175 cm (5’9) and lightweight. He might have a future being deployed entirely as a LB but that’s quite the leap of faith having to spend 40m on someone to play him in a position he’s barely… Read more »

Un

AasimJuly 1, 2022 08:54:19 So rather than talking about cunting spurs and their super cunting manager….lets discuss our players, their potential, ceiling and expectation for next season.pre the current transfer window, I thought we have 4 special players in our squad: – Saka: nuff said. the guy has great talent and great personality and more. he started as left back, and I still pine for his pinging deliveries into the box from his left dick, thus often wondering if his goal contribution would be higher from the other flank – TP: when not injured and on form, a supreme MFer.… Read more »

Un

Raptora

If we sign lisandro then he starts every game if he’s fit.
He’s he one signing I really hope we make this summer as I think he’s ridiculously talented on the ball, better than most midfielders and can be our cancleo, wherever he’s deployed
If he takes that lcb spot and we can sell Gabriel to juventus or psg for whatever we pay for lisandro then I’d be delighted. That definitely “moves the needle”

Un

andy1886July 1, 2022 09:20:19 Terra, yes a few more sensible posters have commented on how we go from ‘never heard of him’ to ‘brilliant signing’ in the blink of an eye (Vieira for example). And Raphinha has gone from a great signing to ‘never wanted him anyway’ already. Meanwhile Bissouma ‘is just an athlete not a footballer’. All comments made from the heart rather than the head. Andy Embarrassing isn’t it? I’ve been quite vocal about not wanting Raphinha personally. With regards to vieira, never seen the kid live but certainly the sort of player we should be signing. Technically… Read more »

Goobergooner

Un if lisandro is going to be our cancelo then he won’t be replacing Gabriel. He will be worked in with Tierney so he can hopefully stay fit a whole season.

raptora

Don, He starts every game if he’s fit where and I mean main position? CB I assume you’re talking about? Okay, there’s the height problem. I might be old fashioned but 5’9 CB in the EPL? It could work but it’s so risky. Also he’s so good yet he has 5 starts and 2 subs for Argentina and he’s almost 25 yo. Our boy Jesus has 56 games at almost the same age. No doubt he’s a very good player. It might turn out a great decision to buy him specifically for LB as I don’t see him doing well… Read more »

Aasim

also Pepe……I mean look, I have bought into the Arteta plan. But not being able to maximize Pepe’s potential is sth I hold against him. at the very minimum NP could have been used to terrorize the weaker teams thus allowing Saka to be rested. Motivating players who are on the edge, allowing them to believe in themselves, appreciating them publicly, feeding the fire their belly, this is what managers like Mourinho, Conte, etc are very good at. Arteta…. ???

Emiratesstroller

I cannot imagine that Arsenal are buying Martinez as a Centre Back unless Arteta is playing 3 CBs at the back. Surely we are not playing a 5′ 9″ CB in EPL!! Buying him makes only sense if he is coming in as a utility player to cover for LB and DMF positions. Arsenal have clear weakness if Tomiyasu and Tierney don’t play as we saw in final 3 months of season. Replacing Soares with Bellerin and Tavares with an incoming specialist LB makes more sense. I agree with those who believe that Arsenal should recruit Tielemans. We need an… Read more »

WengerEagle

For anyone saying that Martinelli is one-dimensional and cannot dribble there is a compilation on youtube if him sitting down TAA on his arse for about 5 mins worth.

The kid is fucking 20. How many better u21 attackers are there in the PL outside of Saka?

raptora

Martinelli is getting minutes in that jacked af Brazil forward line. Apparently they think he’s good.

WengerEagle

Don’t really get the plan with Martinez if he really is going to be used as a LCB as we have Gabriel, White and Saliba there already and Tomiyasu can play CB in a pinch.

WengerEagle

Arteta seems to be absolutely obssessed with signing defenders.

Mr Serge

Martinelli is an amazing young player I can’t believe people are writing him off

Please don’t watch footie anymore it does not agree with you

Mr Serge

Saliba has the number 2 shirt not bellend

Dissenter

So now Martinelli is being written off?
I’ve never read anyone write anything profoundly negative about Martinelli

I have however read people here advocate that we sign a £60 million winger who would have set Martinelli back in his development
Raphinha’s entry would have shifted Saka to the left and given Martinelli fewer minutes.

DivineSherlock

Dissenter

I have however read people here advocate that we sign a £60 million winger who would have set Martinelli back in his development.
Raphinha’s entry would have shifted Saka to the left and given Martinelli fewer minutes.

You should probably stop with your crazy stories since Raphina aint coming and thats not how a squad works . You should always have healthy competition for places without the drop in quality.

Mr Serge

yep diss they only counter argument to that is there are plenty of games to play a game every 3 days all the way to the world cup

raptora

Jorge Sampaoli is leaving Marseille. Genuinely surprised.

Mysticleaves

I mean I don’t know…I understand that Martinelli is a darling of the fans and he has this crazy potentials but I just feel like he could be doing a whole lot more better than he is currently. Never (oke, rarely) plays combination plays, rarely plays in-between the lines. Just gets the ball and runs. I mean I like him and I hope he becomes this world class striker that we all think he will be but I have largely been disappointed so far esp after the break out season he had as an 18 year old. But then again… Read more »

AFC Forever

Divine Sherlock Absolutely. Competition is key. If a player is afraid of competition then he’s not going to be much good. The saying about ‘fighting for the shirt’ is a truism. I like Saka and Martinelli but they need to be under pressure to perform and kept on his toes. We lost 4th place last season because we didn’t have squad depth and lost two of our best players for over a third of the season. Our players aren’t doing the numbers other teams players do so it’s essential we have better players coming in. Especially with Europe now. Anyone… Read more »

Aasim

look – the point regarding martinelli is, its been 2 years since he made his debut. what tangible improvements do you see in his game. and no point negating that he literally just kicks the ball forward, runs after it with his head down, hoping to outpace his marker, whilst not getting muscled off. I bet there are plenty more videos of that, than his giving TAA a challenge. And like previously mentioned, the only reason why he gets time is his defensive contrition, i.e. our lack of credible back-up / first choice in that position. Its the same with… Read more »

Bigper

Too early to say if martinelli will be any good but that is the point, he is too young/underdeveloped too be in the first team of a club that wants top four, as was proved last season when he did f all in the run in

raptora

France played 4 games in June:
Nkunku – 2 starts, 2 subs
Mbappe – 1 start, 2 subs

At the moment the coach who watches more of their minutes than any of you, and is a bigger expert on football than any of you rates Nkunku at least as good if not better than Mbappe.

Dissenter

Martinelli is too young to be in the first squad so why is he getting so many minutes in the Brazilian squad, ahead of a congested options of attackers. Martinelli is one the few players gave elite full backs like Cancelo and TAA problems last season. He still has a bit to add to his game but he’s already good enough to be in 18 of the 20 squads in the country. The most idiotic mistake we would have made was spending £60 to add depth to areas where we have relative strengths already, at the same time our weaknesses… Read more »

InsideRight

raptora

“Jorge Sampaoli is leaving Marseille. Genuinely surprised.”

It will be interesting to see how that affects Guendouzi. Sampaoli seems to be his biggest fan and the new manager might not have the same view of him.

Un

GoobergoonerJuly 1, 2022 11:19:34 Un if lisandro is going to be our cancelo then he won’t be replacing Gabriel. He will be worked in with Tierney so he can hopefully stay fit a whole season. Goober Not necessarily a like for like ful back version of cancelo but I mean someone who plays from deep, wether it’s lb, lcb or lcmid and dropping back in to let Tierney go forward, it could work miracles. Cancelo gives city an extra dimension all over the park. He’s an extra, world class playmaker in whatever zone he’s frequenting. Meaning that even if he’s… Read more »

Un

raptoraJuly 1, 2022 11:22:36
Don,
He starts every game if he’s fit where and I mean main position? CB I assume you’re talking about? Okay, there’s the height problem. I might be old fashioned but 5’9 CB in the EPL? It could work but it’s so risky.

Rap
See above
Also, how many caps did shearer or Grealish or Vvd have at 24 years old? Drogba didn’t blowup until he was 25

Un

Eagle

Martinelli clearly has a very high ceiling but his end product in tight spaces isn’t as good as ESR and Saka for me which is why I prefer both as things stand.
I’m a big fan of martinelli but he seems to be more suited to counter attacking football rather than Arteta’s slowly slowly backward sideways style.
Let’s see but of the 4 big young attacking players we deployed last season, he seems the least suited to Arteta’s build up style

Un

Eagle
Also
His best games were against big sides who come at us and leave gaps. Counter attacking football for us and space to run for him.
Suits him perfectly
Well organised and low bloc seems to nullify him.

Habesha Gooner

WengerEagle
I am sure we are going to see a huge upward curve in Martinelli at some point. The kid is 20. And he works like an animal. Over the next two years I think he will fulfill his potential. Vini Jr. just showed what a bit of time for a player will do for him. Rafael Leao also had the same path. Martinelli just needs to continue to play.

Un

Diss
Totally agree
I’d hope we won’t sign another wide player for the left now as we already have ESR and Martinelli there plus Marquinhos Pepe and Saka who can play left. Oh and Vieira.

Goobergooner

Un,
I’d only see him in a back 3 if he’s going to be lcb.

And unless we are going for a lb as well, and given Tierney’s history with injuries, I’d say it would be madness to displace Gabriel when we will need lisandro getting the minutes at LB as he will surely be needed there; and we want him to settle before throwing him in head first, where with his attributes, would more likely contribute in a more positive way ala cancelo.

Goobergooner

But as rap said he hasn’t played as much lb or DM, so we will see what comes of it if it happens.

I like the idea of him though, I think he’d fit in well. Just don’t think it will be for gabriel

Habesha Gooner

I agree though Klopp would have made an animal out of Martinelli already. He would be scoring a ridiculous amount of goals as a striker at Liverpool already. Arteta’s system isn’t the best fit for him but he will still deliver to a consistent basis over the next two seasons.

Pierre

Klopp didn’t help Martinelli with his “talent of the century ” comment. I first made the comment of Martinelli being a head down merchant and i don’t think i have been proved wrong. However, last season Martinelli performed pretty well under the circumstances, a goal contribution every 155 mins in the premier league is impressive considering so much of our play goes down the right.. No goal contributions in 450 mins in the supposedly easy cup comps is a strange stat , maybe cup comps are not quite as easy as some think. I wouldn’t write off Martinelli yet as… Read more »

Goobergooner

When martinelli has Jesus showing him the ropes on the daily he’s going to be set on fire for me. He definitely needs to work on combination play. He has a tendency of being able to make a great run, but not finding the simple pass to keep the move going. Also gets a bit ahead of himself at times and may try a bit too much but he’s a forward, he is going to lose the ball at times just part of that front foot game. Always trying to make something happen though. He’s got a magnificent touch, an… Read more »