KSE WIN STANLEY CUP WHILST DRIVING ARSENAL TO NEXT LEVEL

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Congratulations to KSE on ANOTHER big trophy. Hot off of winning the Lacrosse Cup of the Universe, the Super Ball in LA, they’re now Puck Champions of the world.

KSE are winners.

I love that one day, they all had Christmas lunch and Josh – hungover to shit – said, ‘guys, winning trophies in sport could be fun, what do you say?’

And they all said yes.

The pace of signings kicked up.

Matty Turner has landed. The best keeper in MLS. America’s number 1. Some even say he ‘might’ be the best player in the league. We picked him up for peanuts as well.

I think this is a good move. Aaron Ramsdale needs competition like any other keeper. He was shaky at times last season. Bernd Leno was never getting back into the mixer after some of his meek keeping at Brentford. I’ve done some research on this player and I like what I see… I saw someone pulled together a comp of his passing, he can do bold things, he’s not afraid to break the lines, he’s nowhere near as nuts as Ramsdale, but he’s more than capable of taking big decisions to break a press.

American fans are bothered that he’s their best keeper and he’s coming to sit on the bench. I suspect there must have been a chat about the World Cup. No doubt for me that he’s getting the domestic cups and the Europa League this season. That should be enough to develop him and keep him sharp for the WC.

Anyway, more interesting than Fraser Forster.

The news on other signings gets better, we’re going big, no one can stop us, the club like the coach and they want to give him the things he needs so he doesn’t whine.

Dembele is apparently going to stay at Barcelona on a hideous contract they can’t afford. Which means Raphinha’s door to Barca looks like it’s shutting, which makes things a little easier for Arsenal to move on the Brazilian. There’s also hot chatter that Antonio Conte is going to put his money down on Richarlison, a player that is a real pain in the arse when things aren’t going for him apparently, so I’m quite pleased about that.

The big journos reckon £50m should do the job for Raph, then we just have to hope Edu whispers Portuguese sweet nothings in his ear.

The Dutch media reckon we have gone back in for Lisandro Martinez, this time with a bid closer to £35m. It’s a lot of cash, but not when you consider all the positions he can play, and the reality that he’s probably going to play more than half our games next season.

I can’t imagine we’re exiting the transfer window without a serious upgrade to our midfield. Tielemans has everything we need, but there are rumblings we’re looking to France at Cheick Doucoure for £30m. He’s playing at Lens, he seems to be a bit more of an all-action box to box than Tielemans, but he also has a bit of flair about his passing. I think Premier League fans would feel a lot better having a midfielder like that in the mixer next season. Obviously, there’s a lot of risk buying from Ligue 1, Soumare tanked big time at Leicester, and Tielemans has already done it in the league… so who knows.

What can’t be denied here is that Arsenal are building hard for a title challenge in 2 seasons’ time. The investment has been immense and shocking if I’m totally honest. This is going to be the most WOW transfer window in 30 years. Yep, I am gonna go out on a limb and say this is as wild as the one in which we signed Sol Campbell… if all the pieces fall in the right place.

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Berg10kamp

Now when the hell did we resort to bashing Wenger after retirement. The man is a Legend… yeah his final years were forgettable but he still kept us in the mix.

Berg10kamp

And when he didnt achieve top 4 he left.

Raulishuss

The irony of pierre calling other obsessed. Wow. Funny he’s now doing what most groovers were doing during wengers time (disrespect the coach, never criticise his favourites who always happen to be bench players and he’ll say anything to drag the club down)

Markymark

I don’t went a statue ! So there
Outdated 19th Century concept.
Ahistorical time display line like Barca have is really cool. Encompassing the club rather than obsessing over individuals

Raulishuss

For the record I absolutely adored and still adore arsene. He is the greatest MANAGER the Pl has ever seen. The humility,intelligence, composure,innovation etc the man had it all. Even the great Cruyff ran out of luck and idea too.

Steg

still need a CM

Madhu

OMG, Wenger is back. He doesn’t need statue and nor does he crave for. He has assiduously maintained his distance and silence over all things Arsenal. He will never come back to Arsenal and the best we can do is to leave him alone. The man is dignified and very comfortable with his Achievements(and non achievements as well as recounted by the fans) and is in a good space in his life. Leave him alone and talk about the present.

raulishuss

Who is holding him? Maybe rob?

Sotongunner

Will accept to comparisons to all time legend Wenger when the present encumbent matches the worst of Wenger (he hasnt even done that yet imo, minimum ex pectation being a single top four finish andwould really also like semi consistent watchable football).

I think whateve window it was we signed Alexis beats thhis but Wenger tduly lost his way in the transfer market. Another key indicator for learning from mistakes and learning humility would be finally selling Xhaka (a key Wenger mistake inherited by the current incumbent)

Pierre

Sotongunner
“Will accept no comparisons to all time legend Wenger when the present encumbent matches the worst of Wenger (he hasnt even done that yet imo, minimum ex pectation being a single top four finish andwould really also like semi consistent watchable football).”

Oops careful , Raulishuss is easily offended by the truth..

Bob N16

Sid with your one liners. Love to sometimes read the justification behind your statements. I guess you’re being provocative but it would be interesting if you’d expand your thoughts a little.

Markymark

Madhu – probably the most sensible comment I’ve read in a while
I seriously do not remember Scousers fetishizing this much once Shankley and Paisley had actually left the building despite their god like status at the time.
Sad to see such disconnected Wenger Lovers who hold every possible Arsenal situation as a mirror to him. The mirror of his glory years as well. How far back are we now talking .

Habesha Gooner

Jesus in for a medical today. I know he will sign but it would still be great to see it confirmed. On to other targets it seems. Raphinha, Tielemans and Martunez and we will get CL football.

Markymark

For those who keep on going on and on about top 4. For years we had either us or Man UTD. Liverpool fell away giving a clear run at usually 2nd place. Once Chelsea were petro dollared we fell away under Wenger , once City were State assisted we fell away once more and so on. We are living in a far more competitive league simple as that . We now have Newcastle state assisted and a capable Spurs with some showing from Leicester. Wenger would be having exactly the same issues as Arteta in todays world . A modern… Read more »

Madhu

MarkymarkJune 28, 2022 08:42:24
Whatever happened Arsene for me is an Arsenal Legend. He is human and of course i resented his later years. I wanted him to do the most romantic and legendary thing of getting a Pep or Klop installed in his seat and he exiting gracefully. That would have been stuff of legends. Unfortunately he is human and got sucked into his own narrative. Anyways he is gone now and i believe and hope he never comes back to Arsenal for his own good and peace of mind.

The Bard

The Kroenkes have no option but to spend the money otherwise they can’t raise ticket prices. Also they have to be ready for the super league that will be enviable sooner rather than later.

Positive pete

Habesha- see earlier post.Looks as if Tielemans off the table & the targets appear to be in no particular order: Martinez,Rapha & One of the Lens boys?

Pierre

Markymark “I seriously do not remember Scousers fetishizing this much once Shankley and Paisley” I would say defending not fetishing. The scousers had no reason to defend shankly or paisley as both were shown the respect they deserved. I’m afraid there will always be comparisons between wenger and whoever is manager due to the disrespect shown to him, the comparisons will stop when the present manager makes us competitive again.. You will probably find that at liverpool things changed when sourness arrived as he wasn’t as successful as previous managers and the football wasn’t as good… At present we will… Read more »

Markymark

Madhu – I had very similar thoughts myself
Ultimately power and prestige if not always corrupting create powerful pull forces which are difficult to let go.
Wenger should have unexpectedly resigned 5 seasons earlier than he did and similarly with Ferguson who is now getting caught up with fall out over the Glaziers

Pierre

Madhu
” I wanted him to do the most romantic and legendary thing of getting a Pep or Klop installed in his seat and he exiting gracefully”

Yes that would have been the perfect scenario, i think we could have hired pep when he left Barca , i would say the owners are part culpable for not recognising that Pep is elite

Bob N16

If you say so Seedy! I guess you’re too busy to provide an insight into your one liners!

curse

Congratulations P. daddy!

Madhu

Markymark & Peirre – That’s precisely why i resented him earlier but now as i get older and seeing the way the world is have come to realize that Power is very intoxicating. You can hardly get any human being who is ready to relinquish power. The mgmt were culpable for sure and iam not even sure if someone had a word with Arsene and nudged him to do the best for the club. He could have transitioned to Pep or a Klopp and assumed legendary status and a moral high ground. Guess its not that easy and that’s why… Read more »

Markymark

Pierre – see my piece about the league competitiveness
Each time a further element was added in Chelsea / Man City / Leicester / Liverpool / Spurs Wenger slipped
It’s far more competitive these days you’re not comparing eggs with eggs . You might as well compare Bertie Mee teams

Positive pete

Any thoughts Habesha?

Tom

A Wenger/Arteta hybrid would’ve been interesting to see play out.
Someone who can coach a free flowing football but not married to perennial under-performers just because loyalty was his lifelong North Star.

Wenger just needed to be, you know, a bit more “transitional”.

Tom

The league being “way more competitive “ must be the reason Arteta’s football until the last season was barely watchable.

Tom

transactional

Chris

First trailer for Arsenal : All or Nothing at 4pm today

Freddie Ljungberg

Pics online of Edu meeting Jesus outside Colney for the medical. Love this getting business done early malarkey, should have tried that years ago…

Please let a CM be next, pretty please.

Goobergooner

Yeah can’t deny the the Kroenkes are stepping it up since they took full control.
It is very exciting indeed.
Also Pedro, does 2 seasons mean we should be competing for the league not this coming season but the next?
Or the one after?

Goobergooner

Hahaha Freddie, it’s such a pleasant surprise getting the big guns in early for a change isn’t it

Pierre

Markymark Probably less competitive now as city and liverpool are so dominant and one or the other have the league sown up before a ball is kicked , and i see no reason why it will be different this time Even though united dominated the premier league from the start , i always felt we had a chance to compete if we had a good season , i don’t feel that atm…the trophy for many clubs is 4th spot The average points total to win the premier league in it’s first 6 seasons was below 80 points The average points… Read more »

Tom

The only statue Wenger needs is the statue of limitations.
Klopp built an all conquering side in 3-4 years and even in his second year no one was blaming Rodgers for anything anymore.

Dissenter

We are deriving al, the benefits of having a Brazilian director of football, aren’t we?
The warm embrace Jesus gave Edu upon arrival at London Colney suggests we went after this player for years.

benkind

SiddeeqJune 28, 2022 08:10:27
Signing Jesus at best compares to signing Auba.

I hope Jesus is successful at Arsenal but this above is not true. Auba was one of the World’s most deadly striker when we signed him and the guy still had about 20 goals last season.

Habesha Gooner

Positive Pete
I think Tielemans is dependent on out goings. If we make 30 to 40 mil in sales then we will sign him. If not then we are going with Xhaka. I think it is a big mistake. Arteta is trying to die on the Xhaka hill.

Mr Serge

ChrisJune 28, 2022 11:08:15
First trailer for Arsenal : All or Nothing at 4pm today

My spurs mate is more excited about this than I am
He is a twat

Pierre

Fred
“. Love this getting business done early malarkey, should have tried that years ago…”

Getting business done early sounds good in theory, but the proof of whether it has advantages or not will depend on how successful (or not) we are next season.

If i remember rightly , we did exactly that for the last 4 summers and we finished 5th, 8th , 8th and 5th, if fact the only summer we never bought an outfield player we finished 2nd in the league, so let’s wait and see if getting the business done early really does make a difference.

Tom

“If city get a good start , the rest might as qell go home I’m afraid , we will all be competing for the famous 4th place trophy , how ironic.“

Not necessarily, Pierre.
City probably have more internationals on their roster than any club in the world, and in a WC year that’s a handicap.
And then there’s the small matter of PGMO who have been doing their utmost to keep things competitive all the way through each season.
Haaland isn’t going to walk this league either, contrary to what most believe.

Freddie Ljungberg

Pierre

We were woefully underprepared last season, our first 3 games was a shambles because we didn’t do our business in time.

That was the case so many times under Wenger as well.

If the transfers are good or not is another matter entirely.

Doubt even you can find a problem with ahving your new signings done before preseason starts so they can get to know their teammates, but I’m sure you’ll give it a go anyway…

CaliGooner

Any statue of wenger should be of him shoving Jose.

Or of him with his arms out to the ref after being sent off at old trafford.

Ray+in+LA

Dortmund have replace Harland with Haller

Don’t remember Haller being mentioned — bit older than their usual buy

Any thoughts — did we miss someone?

Ray+in+LA

Dortmund have replace Harland with Haller

Don’t remember Haller being mentioned on Le Grove — bit older than their usual buy

Any thoughts — did we miss someone?

Ray+in+LA

sorry for the duplication

WengerEagle

Ray

Haller is a good ST but he had an unsuccessful period for West Ham in the PL you might remember fairly recently. Kind of flopped hard considering they paid £40m for him.

I like him but not sure he is suited to PL football, not quick or light on his feet.

Bob N16

Completely agree Freddie L, not particularly talking about Pierre, but some people feel weirdly empowered by the need to highlight the negatives.

It’s a valid criticism to suggest that leaving things late with incomings, even acknowledging that sometimes transfers involve brinkmanship, can have a detrimental effect on how well we start the season.

It’s therefore great to get in as many players in as possible, to help with integration.

Jesus in, now let’s get Martinez!

Wicked Willy

Sideeq, I already had a pretty low estimation of your intelligence, but claiming Gnabry was a PL failure is a ridiculous statement. He was smashing it as an 18 year old until two ACL injuries massively hampered his progress. Many players, Bellerin and Frimpong included, were never the same player after such injury. He has bounced back and has a performance chart that is the equal of Mo Salah. Given the way he put 4 past Spurs, there is little doubt he would absolutely thrive in the Prem.

Graham62

Ups and downs.
Positives and Negatives.
Black and White.

I will dwell on the positives when things are proven.

As it stands, until we see a clear identity, I remain sceptical, although I will try to bite on the positives as best I can.

Mr Serge

CaliGoonerJune 28, 2022 12:31:16
Any statue of wenger should be of him shoving Jose.Or of him with his arms out to the ref after being sent off at old trafford.

incorrect it can only ever be him doing his coat up

WengerEagle

It didn’t help with Gnabry that he was loaned out to that footballing Dinosaur Tony Pulis who had no clue what to do with him and largely pretended he wasn’t there.

Pulis would have benched a teenage Messi for Rory Delap.

Mr Serge

WE correct pullis is a shit judge we should never have loaned him

WengerEagle

Serge

Always found it bizarre that we loaned out two of our most promising foreign youngsters in Vela and Gnabry to West Brom who had Woy and Pulis as gaffers rather than somewhere like Swansea.

Nigel Tufnel

Newcastle trying to get in on Raphinha?

Chrispy

I saw a Sky Sports headline re Raphinha and the barcodes but when I drilled down, nothing to be found.

kjelli

Matt Turner from what I have seen looks promising and has a lot of confidence, could turn out to be
our best signing ..

Habesha Gooner

Jesus signed and delivered after completing his medicals today. Announcement left. Our attack looks very good even without Raphinha right now. Jesus, Nketiah, Martinelli, ESR, Odegaard, Viera, Saka. 7 players for 4 positions. And all of them are very good. I wouldn’t be too bothered if we don’t get Raphinha. Even playing the likes of Flores and Hutchison on Europa league football wouldn’t be the worst. They are about the same age when Martinelli and Saka broke in to the first team. But I would be bothered if we don’t get a CM and a LB from this point on.… Read more »

Bob N16

Graham, I think the identity that you’re so invested in will be apparent next season; CBs playing a high line, FBs who alternately can tuck in and make a three or push forward into MF, CMs who can receive the ball on the turn and who can find a pass to the forwards, and attacking players who can press without the ball and who provide good movement to allow quick interaction when we’re attacking. The only change this summer is the turnover of players that will hopefully result in Arteta playing exactly how he wants play. Don’t worry if Arteta… Read more »

englandsbest

I think most of us will agree Arsene was good at the start and lousy at the end. Those who say he was rotten from the beginning or who say he remained brilliant to the end cannot be serious. The only worthwhile discussion is when and why he changed from one to the other. For me ‘when’ was a gradual awareness that he had lost his power of judgement. Some moments stand out – the sale of RvP to Man U, the egregious bid for Suarez, the nutty purchase of Ozil. The ‘why’ includes absolute power, the stress of austerity,… Read more »

NORG

EB

Ozil was a good player when purchased. The problem was when contract renewals came along.

The original purchase was made by IG. Wenger was no where to be seen and his mobile was switched off. The deal was almost completed when he finally phoned in.

Soham

De Jong to MU is 90% done per the daily mail with £55 million upfront. Will Raphinha then move to Barca ?

Mr Serge

WengerEagleJune 28, 2022 13:23:14
SergeAlways found it bizarre that we loaned out two of our most promising foreign youngsters in Vela and Gnabry to West Brom who had Woy and Pulis as gaffers rather than somewhere like Swansea.

me too always thought you should loan a player to a team that plays like you do so a footballing team, not kick and hoof merchants

Leftside

Who knows Soham.

I think Barca are more interested in Lewandowski and the fee quoted is apparently £52m.

TheBayingMob

I’m not too sure I could hate Newcastle and their chirpy cunt fans anymore, but that new kit is for low life scum … and all these golfers sucking down the scaly pecker for a few quid. Does it matter that they are murderous cunts? Seems not …

Un

England is best
No one would claim he was brilliant at the end but the cunts on here wanted him gone whe he was still producing top 2/3/4 finishes and playing some of the best football in the country.
Even at his worst he’s still on par with anything emery and Arteta.

Positive pete

If the Barca bandits get the Manure money they’ll go for Rapha & we ll have to move on.Plus Manure Will then turn their attention to Martinez.So we’d be doubly f** kd.We have to get either of those deals tied up today/ tomorrow or else …..

Un

Pete
Forget Raphinha
It’s all about lisandro

Dissenter

The combination of Kroenke-spending and Art-Edu’s dynamics has the fanbase purring like day-old kittens
I wonder what Pedro is like these days, man must be jamming.

andy1886

Un, make that some of the best attacking football, sometimes the defending was beyond dire. You can’t simply ignore the less glamorous side of the game or it ceases to be a sport and becomes just another part of the ‘entertainment’ industry.

Mr Serge

i would prefer gnabry over raphina any day

Leftside

I wouldn’t mind losing out on Raphina for Gnabry either but I can’t see us going in for Serge.

Nigel Tufnel

Positive Pete try to relax. Worrying won’t help matters, and will just cause you stress.

We’ll get some good things done. There’s always options.

Just remember last summer many of us wanted Emerson Royal. See how that worked out.

Tom

Does it matter that they are murderous cunts?
Seems not …

Not if them murderous cunts can elevate their club from relegation fodder to CL contenders.

Besides, don’t ever underestimate the value of personal bias, especially from football fans.
Putin doesn’t even own a club but many see his bombing apartment buildings and shopping malls as defending his country from the impending NATO aggression.

Goobergooner

Haha BobN16,

Brilliant from Turner!
He gets it already

Dissenter

Spurs are reportedly trying to sign Anthony Gordon and Richarlison from Everton
Why in the world would a club that survived relegation with the skin of their teeth sell their best players to a club like Spurs?
It’s not like Spurs will pay crazy wages or offer super transfer fees.

benkind

PierreJune 28, 2022 15:10:18 https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/lisandro-martinez-arsenal-transfer-target-stats-comparison-current-centre-back-options/ Nice link Pierre. It is stats like this that makes one wonder why we bought White for the amount we did. White is a good player but our most expensive defender and by these stats not the best. I am hoping the WC puts so much fire in our players who are going. Only, Ramsdele, Xhaka, tiereny, parety, saka, turner are guaranteed to go asides from injury and I hope these guys especially new signings and Saliba give a great performance to get picked. This will be great for us since we have a nice… Read more »

Un

Pierre
Great stats
Notice how holding pisses all over Gabriel’s defensive stats

Un

Be kind

Gabriel is second highest since he joined in the league for mistakes leading to goals
Whites stats are also superior, not by much
I really hope lisandro takes that lcb position
Not a fan of Gabriel at all

Dissenter

Un
Stop these wild swings at Gabriel
He’s our best natural defender. He’s very competitive and wasn’t served last season by Tavares who’s a bit of a loose cannon.

raptora

Raphinha seriously undervalued in here, most don’t even know how to write his name down. There are quite a few wingers that could do the job for us but Raphinha is definitely among the best. Yes, Gnabry is above him, but we don’t really stand a chance with him. Sterling is going to Chavs. We can’t do much better than Raphinha and although the money is a lot, it’s a statement signing. If we bring Raphinha along with a CM and Lisandro it’s clearly a sign that we will attack the league in the coming 2 or 3 seasons. All… Read more »

Dissenter

Let’s stop pretending that the world comes to an end if Raphinha goes elsewhere.
If he doesn’t come, we’ll move unto another target and nothing changes.
We won’t lose a step. His best position is occupied by Saka who’s a more productive player at the age of 20 years old.
Martinelli too is already a senior Brazilian international and has some numbers that are better that Raphihna’s already. He just turned 21 years old..

WengerEagle

I don’t think that Raphinha is being undervalued at all, if anything he has become overrated.

He’s a very decent player but he is simply not worth £65m which is a ridiculous asking price really. He is 25 now so he is unlikely to improve all that much and right now he is quite a good player but is he even better than 20 year old Saka? Not for me.

Let Utd overpay for him. We can get an equivalent talent for less elsewhere.

raptora

Dissenter,
It’s actually the opposite. Most fans think our interest there shouldn’t even exist. When in fact, we’re going to play a lot of games, Martinelli has no competition and we are one Saka injury away from losing half our threat in attack. Every proper team has 3-4 wingers fighting it out, we have 2. It’s a recipe for another shit offensively season.

andy1886

Raptora, my pet hate is people who cannot spell Vieira – an Arsenal legend and they can’t even get it right! Now we have a second one perhaps they’ll make the effort.

raptora

Andy,
I know and it irritates me as well.
Sanhelli is another example lol.

andy1886

If Raphinha is off the table I’d take Zaha for a reasonable fee. Scores goals, can play across the front three and has the sort of attitude that we’re short of. At 29 we’d still get two or three seasons which would give us time to claim CL money for a replacement when the time comes.

WengerEagle

Spending £45m for Jesus made sense because there wasn’t a ST better anywhere that we could have gotten for less.

Are we really saying that there is no better wide forward available for £65m or significantly less than Raphinha? Who seems to have a hard-on for Barca anyway and likely would see us as a stepping-stone.

Almuniasaynomore

Marrkeynos is another one.

Naija+soccer

Does anyone know any midfielders that are similar to Cheick Doucoure ?

Un

Diss

No. He’s our worst natural defender. He’s just athletic and that’s it. That’s it

WengerEagle

I can name 10 better widemen in the PL alone than Raphinha.

Is that really a £65m player? Compared to a player like a Milinkovic-Savic?

Mr Serge

DissenterJune 28, 2022 15:53:01
Spurs are reportedly trying to sign Anthony Gordon and Richarlison from Everton
Why in the world would a club that survived relegation with the skin of their teeth sell their best players to a club like Spurs?
It’s not like Spurs will pay crazy wages or offer super transfer fees.

Frank has been told to sell if he wants to buy the E|verton well is dry Moshiri has run out of desire to spend

Un

Let Utd overpay for him. We can get an equivalent talent for less elsewhere.

We already have one
Pepe

The Bard

The Raphinha story is a wonderful example of today’s transfer market. He isnt worth £65m but if his agent can create an auction maybe one of the clubs will buy him. Personally I wouldn’t entertain him for that money as others have commented.

WengerEagle

I would love for Barca to sign Raphinha if it meant we could maybe snag Memphis Depay who imo is a better player and would be a better fit into our XI as he slots in at LF and could even interchange as the ST with Jesus.

Crazier things have happened, not sure how much of a fan of Depay that Xavi is. He seems more anxious to hold onto Dembele.

Un

WengerEagleJune 28, 2022 17:00:52
I can name 10 better widemen in the PL alone than Raphinha. Is that really a £65m player? Compared to a player like a Milinkovic-Savic?

Weagle
Spot on
I think this Raphinha stuff is a smoke and mirror diversion maybe. Or just his team trying to stoke up interest

WengerEagle

Un

I really don’t see us signing him so maybe I am just mentally preparing myself, lol.

But seriously though, £65m is so much money. That is more than Utd are likely to pay for Frenkie De Jong who for me is easily a top 5-10 CM on the planet.

Nigel Tufnel

Levy’s media reporting Chelsea interest in Raphina. Telegraph, Matt Law.

Whatever.

Chelsea just has a few more years before reality hits them, and I expect is to challenge them this season.

If he’s not into is, I’ll be ok with that. We’ll move on, but even more exciting if we do get him.