MAKING MOVES LIKE CITY

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Well good day to you all! Especially the fathers in the room. For mothers day, it’s all emotions and feelings… when it comes to the dads, it’s a phone call to berate them for ruining your taste palete with Ribena milkshakes, and some casual c*nting down the phone. If you have a dad, I hope you are treating him well, if you don’t, I hope you are ok today.

The biggest gift my dad gave me was indoctrination to THE ARSENAL. These modern hippy parents that give their kids choice, what’s with that? I was threatened with a zero present Christmas if I didn’t conform, so I conformed and it was the best decision of my damn life.

Also, for my American friends, Happy Juneteenth, the day when all of America was truly given their freedom in 1865. I think most people are still working out how you celebrate this one, but my team over here are hitting the BBQ and celebrating the culture. Have a cracking day whatever you are doing.

ONTO THE ARSENAL.

This Lisandro Martinez signing, if it happens, might prove to be one of the shrewdest moves of the window. He’s a very versatile player that can operate in a Xhaka role, can play on the left side of defence, and he can also drop in as a centre back. He’s a build-up player. By signing him, you don’t have to have someone like Granit drop deep to start the play. This thread does a very good job of explaining all the bits he can do.

One of the things the club will like about him is the bravery piece. That Newcastle game at the end of the season was probably the worst moment in our season. We didn’t show up. Our defenders really shit the bed. Our keeper lost his nerve. So we couldn’t break the press. Arteta can’t have that be a problem next season, so he needs to make sure the players he’s bringing in are bold and brave.

Fabio Vieira is the captain of the Portugues U21s, his whole game is about brave passing and clinical accuracy.

Lisandro was the Ajax player of the season, he’ll probably slip into the Argentina first team for the world cup, his game is built around supreme confidence and bravery.

Gabriel Jesus is an extremely trophied 25-year-old, he is brave.

Tielemans plays for the 3rd best international team in the world, I have no doubts that he will not shy away in our midfield next season.

I riled up Spurs Twitter yesterday calling out some truths about how we’re approaching things.

Now, I know things aren’t done yet, but as with last season, you are starting to see some shape to what we’re doing. There’s a nice counterpoint to how Spurs are trying to get some success.

We are building in an innovative and exciting way. There’s a clear style of play we’re going after and we are getting very creative with how we are covering our weaknesses. Some of it is so creative, Arsenal fans are not even sure what is going on, which shows how much tactical flexibility we are adding to the system.

Arsenal are building like City. Our moves have 5 years in mind, not just next season. We’re looking for the next KDB before he’s a big name, so we’ve signed Fabio Vieira. Creative, a goal threat, relentless off the ball, and utterly decisive. We have a power and pace machine at left-back in Kieran Tierney, he needs cover, so instead of replacing like for like, we’re finding a player that can offer something different, so we’re targetting a build up left-back that can play in midfield and as a center-back. A Cancelo-like move. Every decision we make has a deeper story than just the position, it all feels considered, and very thougtful. Some will say ‘we shouldn’t be copying the City model’, my response would be, why not? It seems to be pretty dominant in the Premier League.

Spurs are building like Manchester United. They are building for the now. There’s not a lot of creativity in what they are doing. They need someone on the left, they scan Transfermarkt and see that 33-year-old Perisic can do a job. They need a backup keeper, Forster makes some good saves, he’ll do. Need a midfielder? Go for the one everyone on Twitter thinks is electric, even if he has some serious baggage. Need a striker? How about the whiner that nearly took Everton down?

Both of these systems can offer success, but one feels more sustainable than the other. I’d also say the way Arsenal are doing things is more exciting for the fans, not that it matters, but be real, who is talking about the Spurs window this week? No one. I’d also say that the way Spurs are building it’s absolutely clear they have not moved on from being totally dependent on the output of two players in their late twenties delivering game after game. Arsenal already showed they could do a job without either fullback or Thomas Partey. After this summer, we’ll be even better equipped and in no way will we be classed as a one or two-man team.

What we’re doing has absolute clarity, all the issues are being fixed, there’s balance, and there’s loads of flex in the system for any eventuality. The players we’re chasing would mean we could absorb injuries, we can offer a nightmare to any team whether it’s a deep block or a fancy side coming to play, and nearly all the character flaws we started with last season will have been washed away.

The best bit? The players we’re signing will still keep the average age of our squad lower than 25. Below is the list of players we’ll likely use this season.

The average age of those 30 players is 22.46. If you take out the Europa kids and Balogun, the average age of the squad sits at 23.6. I know it riles up some that I talk about this, but in football, age matters, and this team still has 3 years to get to where City is right now. The average age of Liverpool’s starting 11 was 29.

The types of talent we’re bringing in are so good, the only way is up. Saka will be battle-hardened, Odegaard will start stronger than he did last season, Ben White and Gabriel now know each other better, and players like Saliba and Turner will join the squad knowing there’s a chance for them to stake a claim.

There will be missteps with the players we sign. There always are. Arsene had a mad splash in 2001. He signed Richard Wright, Gio Van Bronckhorst, Juan, Tavlaridis, Edu, Toure and Sol Campbell. Not all of them made it, but the thing with a splash like that is it energizes the fans, the players, and the coaching staff.

During the latter Wenger years, I always said one of the biggest issues he had is he never regenerated the squad. That impacted the players because they knew we weren’t serious. That impacted the fans, because we knew we weren’t in it to win. It impacted the season, because we were never good enough.

That’s all different now. You can disagree with the players we’re targeting, but can anyone honestly say the club isn’t showing ambition? Can anyone say they think Arteta is just going for top 4?

If you are Bukayo Saka right now, do you feel like Arsenal aren’t doing all they can to make you a success at the club you love?

We are trying to get back to the top. That’s good for everyone. Especially those that sit in the stands.

Let’s see what happens this week, hopefully it’s a big one!

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Goobergooner

Sid when did you meet Beiber?

Mr Serge

WengerEagleJune 20, 2022 12:00:47
Sterling is still stupidly underrated and is easily the best of that trio.He looks Chav bound though and the under 26 crew would lose their shit us paying £50m for a 27 year old Sterling.

he is on 300k a week at city no way we are paying him that so unforttunetly we wont be seeing him in an arsenal shirt.
Raphina being touted at 50m thats huge money although he is a talent

raptora

That’s euro WE, so 55-65m pounds. Still a lot of dough.

Mr Serge

2 years left on Raphinas deal lets see what price he will actually go for

Mr Serge

SiddeeqJune 20, 2022 13:55:28
“””GoobergoonerJune 20, 2022 13:49:13
Sid when did you meet Beiber?”””Just after i gave you some loving

LOL,

Wicked Willy

I trust Tets to spend his budget wisely. I’m starting to get a sense of what the nature of his conversation with Stan was when flew out to the US a couple of months ago.

Sit tight, I think it’ll be a good summer. Just need to persuade top targets that we’re the right home for them.

Goobergooner

Man, Nigel went absolutely ham with cringeworthy posts on this one.

And ishola this is hilarious (and not being facetious like above).
“Bit dodgy Xhaka off the ball ain’t he? Yeah but have you seen his left peg on occasions. Beautiful sight.”

Tom

Brighton sold White, who was believed by many their best defensive player, and improved their league position going from 16th to 9th, as well as their goals conceded stats. Now they sold Bissouma , who I think was their best defensive player two seasons running, and we shall see their league position this season. Just to be clear, I understand why Arteta wouldn’t consider Bissouma at any price, since we already have Partey playing his best position, but reading some of the posts I’m wondering whether people actually watched him play at all. Bissouma is way more versatile than just… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Habesha Gooner

Frankly I think that Vieira is our new CMF signing and the club are not planning to buy Tielemans or anyone else in that department.

It should not be forgotten that Arsenal have got a lot of young midfield players coming through the U23s and Academy who are highly rated and with expectation of promotion within the next couple of years.

What seems to be happening now is that Arsenal are focussing on replacing Lacazette and
Pepe. The two targets appear to be Jesus and Raphinha.

That leaves one remaining hole to be filled, which is Left Back.

WengerEagle

If we really do end up signing Vieira, Raphinha, Jesus and Martinez then one thing that can never be said if next season goes tits up for Tets is that he wasn’t given increeible bscking and every chance to succeed.

Pretty much unheard for a managerial rook to be given what he wants on the market and hundreds of millions for a massive rebuild along with no pressure to compete for years.

Is there a cushier job going in football?

Negative Nigel

Errr Gobby gooner .please don’t put words in my mouth.your post @ 13.36.Thanks.

Batistuta

Eagle

Even if he doesn’t get all of those names, next season has to be last chance salon for him. He’s been more than backed by the club if you ask me

Igbo Amadi-Obi

To the best of my knowledge, we have only signed a 19-year old Brazilian

Wicked Willy

Last chance salon!! Love it.

Double funny given Tets haircut!

Tom

Weagle,, Arteta’s biggest coup has been convincing Arsenal brass and majority of the fans that 90% of players he inherited were unfit for purpose.

People went from great coaching should improve all Arsenal players……..to we need all new players in a blink of an eye.

Goobergooner

Oh shit. Negative nigel. I have to apologise.

Got confused with tufnel and positive Pete 😂😂😂

TR7

Tom

Don’t worry !! Arteta is moving the needle bit by bit every season and hopefully in 5-6 years the needle will have moved enough to take us to the promised land unless in 5-6 years the landscape shifts altogether in which case Arteta will embark upon another journey of moving the needle.

Goobergooner

Tom,
And also that he’s not a cheque book manager

Negative Nigel

No problem.Apologies accepted.I guess plenty of confusion on this site with all the positivity/ Negativity clashes.lol! 😂

Ishola70

And yet we had some that said Arteta would walk if he wasn’t given further backing this summer after his whooping backing last season lol.

It’s unheard of really for a club that have been out of CL for a good few years now to be backed so heavily in the transfer market unless they have an obvious sugar daddy/oil backing.

And as others have said the base that he started from wasn’t awful. Arsenal were not an awful team.

If we have another big spend up to or over exceeding 100 m again this summer that is huge backing.

Tom

“Is there a cushier job going in football?”

No. Not at any so called big club.
Arsenal could place fifth again this season and his job would be completely safe.
And so long as there are no Arteta out banners flown over the stadium Pedro would use the stadium atmosphere as proof positive Arteta was the best man fir the job.

Goobergooner

Thanks NN.
This place is nuts. Hence why I’m back here every day haha

Habesha Gooner

Emirates Stroller
If he is the new CM then I will be annoyed. He might have a higher ceiling than most players but we need players for the here and now too. This is a gamble we didn’t need to take to be honest. We needed an established CM as a signing before trying for a kid from Portugal. That would be a baffling decision. Passing on Guimaraes and now Tielemans would be very stupid because we want to play Xhaka. And no way this kid is starting over Xhaka for a while.

WengerEagle

Like really if we spend another £150m this summer then top 4 should be the absolute bare minimum and floor for next season or Arteta’s work here is done.

He is so lucky that we’re not a club with serious expectations. If you spend £300-350m+ on players and get to build a squad it should compete for major honors. Klopp won the CL and PL spending that kind of money in less time.

InsideRight

I can’t decide if it’s ballsy or folly to assume there will be a ‘steady state’ of talent at the club. It’s a pretty big assumption that what we have at the start of next season will still be playing for us in 2-3 years. Some of our key players are already on the watchlist of the likes of Liverpool, City, Real Madrid. If we are still building then players may tire of the ‘success tomorrow’ promise and leave for success now. What we risk seeing is a constant churn of players and a never ending regeneration *before* we reach… Read more »

Wicked Willy

Wow, lots of negativity this afternoon. Why is it so many humans feel the need to fixate on the problems/challenges/imperfections? It’s not as if our club is sinking into an irredeemable abyss from which we won’t escape in our lifetimes. The ship was listing before he arrived. he has steadied the ship, and he is clearly f*cking ambitious about where he wants our club to be, and his doing his best to bring that about. Anyone challenging his ability as a top level manager, fair play, the jury is still out. Anyone questioning his ambition or his desire to see… Read more »

Ishola70

It’s not clear to me yet that there will be another big spend going up to over 100m again.

We have been linked with names. That’s par the course.

So far one signing at a moderate price and one for pittance a kiddie.

Ishola70

It was said on here a few weeks ago that we would need to sell to again hit the over 100m net spend of last summer.

Well who is there to sell? Cupboard is a bit bare in that respect.

Leno is one but doesn’t look like he will fetch that much and there is Pepe and that is about it. And Pepe’s stock has fallen dramatically since he joined Arsenal so we shouldn’t be expectig too many pennies back from any deal involving him either.

If we spend big again it’s got to come deep from the Kroenke’s coffers.

Alexanderhenry

I get the sense Chelsea may hit the doldrums post Abramovic. Man u is a corporate and footballing train crash and Liverpool may have peaked.

Sticking my neck out but a bet on top 4 for arsenal looks quite strong.

Wicked Willy

Fee for Bissouma is £35m inc add ons.

WengerEagle

Ishola

We’ve just spent £35m on a player that it is fair to say that nobody would have said that we needed 2 weeks ago.

Would be very surprised to see under £100m spent. And if so, we won’t finish in the top 4 for sure.

Habesha Gooner

Alex
Wait to see what the transferwinndow brings first.

Inside
Say that our top players want out in the next few years, we won’t be selling them for pittance. Saka will easily go for 80 mil+. 50 mil+ for the likes of Martinelli and ESR too. This is the right way to go about it because even if we fail to challenge for titles our players will be worth a lot. So you can recycle and reinvest in other up and coming players to refresh your squad. This is the only way to build sustainability and success.

WengerEagle

”This is the only way to build sustainability and success.”

Nothing successful about selling your best players every summer. It is the mark of a small club and not what we should ever aspire to even if what you are saying does make great financial sense.

Let’s not lose sight of what football is all about and especially the greatness of our own club.

Ishola70

Weagle “We’ve just spent £35m on a player that it is fair to say that nobody would have said that we needed 2 weeks ago.” He’s a signing that could been seen as a squad player signing though which could mean Arteta has been told he has to overall stick with what he has in regards first team following on from the big spend the previous summer. As said before it’s very unusual for a club to keep splashing out with no CL football for so long two summers in a row unless you are an oil rich club or… Read more »

Naija+soccer

Ishola

Torreira,
Bellerin, and
AMN says hi.

Pepe too will sell for at least 25 million

raptora

Agreed with WE. It’s Arteta’s 3rd summer and by the looks of it, he’ll ask the club to spend big again. He has basically changed our whole lineup to fit his ideas. It’s about time to see the process in place and bear fruit.

The only thing we can hope for, is if Arteta isn’t the person, this time we’ll find someone who can reach our goals without changing 27/30 players but actually work a little bit better with what we have.

Wicked Willy

Don’t forget Mari, Ballard, Nelson. It all adds up

Samesong

We don’t sell out players for much so we aren’t making hardly anything.

Samesong

Loan deal here
Loan deal there
Teams want out money
But don’t want to give us theres.

Habesha Gooner

WengerEagle I am not saying we should sell our best players. I am talking worst case scenario. These players we are signing and are developing are all under 25. So even if we fail we can restart a project by getting fees from them. Not everyone will be stupid like Kane and sign a long term contract with no way out. In that scenario we will be forced to sell. And it doesn’t happen to JUST Arsenal. Real Madrid had to sell Varane, Chelsea had to sell Hazard, Liverpool had to sell Coutinho, Bayern are struggling with Keeping Gnabry, Barcelona… Read more »

Ishola70

Naja

Torreira,
Bellerin, and
AMN says hi.

lol hardly hot players on the market are they.

We are in trouble with Pepe in regards selling him because of the wage he is on. Most likely if he leaves this summer it’s only going to be a loan out.

Un

Wicked WillyJune 20, 2022 14:50:53
Wow, lots of negativity this afternoon. Why is it so many humans feel the need to fixate on the problems/challenges/imperfections? It’s not as if our club is sinking into an irredeemable abyss from which we won’t escape in our lifetimes.

Ww

Arsenal has attracted this type of fan since the invincibles for some weird reason
Shameless bastards they are

Ishola70

We need to see huge movement then don’t we in the next few weeks for all these fringe players to be sold off to boost the coffers.

And we know this doesn’t usually happen that you can sell big number of players all in one window.

If we had one gem to sell off that wasn’t in the overall plan and strategy for a tidy sum then of course it makes it a whole lot easier.

Un

If we had one gem to sell off that wasn’t in the overall plan and strategy for a tidy sum then of course it makes it a whole lot easier

Ishola
Sell Gabriel and Gabriel martinelli
Got to be £100m there

Un

I love Martinelli but if we are to sell one of the young players then I’d keep ESR and Saka over any of the others

Ishola70

Un
“Sell Gabriel and Gabriel martinelli”

mmm selling Gabriel CB would be tempting but I wouldn’t like the idea of selling of Martinelli.

TR7

Arteta is looking for players who can play multiple positions which is really welcome. Viera, Lesandro, Jesus and Rafinha all fit the bill in this regard.

One of the reasons we missed out on top 4 last season was our over dependence on Saka, Partey and Tierney. Signing versatile players can really solve the problem of over reliance on certain individuals. Besides it will give us the liberty to try different formations and tactics.

WengerEagle

Habesha It doesn’t work like that though a lot of the time. Pepe on paper fit that model as he was bought at age 24 and in theory, even if he didn’t work out would have re-sale value. Well here we are less than 3 years later and age 27 we would be doing well to pull in £15m for him. These types of signings are not immune to being disasters either. Do you think that Liverpool would bring in close to £50m if they decided to sell Naby Keita now? Or Everton with Iwobi? And I mean selling club… Read more »

InsideRight

Habesha Gooner – “Inside. Say that our top players want out in the next few years, we won’t be selling them for pittance. Saka will easily go for 80 mil+. 50 mil+ for the likes of Martinelli and ESR too. This is the right way to go about it because even if we fail to challenge for titles our players will be worth a lot.” So basically we become a selling club that constantly has to start over when key pieces of the jigsaw are taken away? “So you can recycle and reinvest in other up and coming players to… Read more »

Ishola70

Anyway time is ticking on Arteta to deliver because the players that we can consider to sell at this stage will be snapped up down the line if we don’t get CL football.

A big boy will come along and smack up that jigsaw you were compiling.

benkind

If we sign lisandro and he comes in to play left back that is just crazy cause Arteta just bought Nuno last season. If he comes to play midfield then why did Arteta resign Xhaka, Eleny and Lokonga only to sign another player at the amount being quoted for a single position. Xhaka hardly gets injured. Some people are saying Vieria comes in to replace pepe but then I was wondering how many minutes Pepe played or any other person played in that right wing position (asides Saka). I know that we have more subs for next season but then… Read more »

Ishola70

Inside Right beat me to the jigsaw talk.

Habesha Gooner

Tielemans 30 mil Jesus 40 mil plus addons. Viera 30 mil Martinez 30 mil Raphinha 50 mil That would come to 180 mil total. If we sell 40 mil worth of players then 140 mil net spend. And we would be stacked with quality. I think it is doable. Pepe 20 mil Nelson 5 to 10 mil Bellerin 5 to 10 mil AMN 10 mil Leno 10 mil Mari 5 mil Torreira 10 mil. Even if you take out Pepe and leon him out that is around 50 mil worth of sales there. And these are very doable prices. Marina… Read more »

benkind

Habesha Gooner Real Madrid had to sell Varane, Chelsea had to sell Hazard, Liverpool had to sell Coutinho, Bayern are struggling with Keeping Gnabry, Barcelona had to sell Neymar and so many others. This is true but what was the prices these clubs sold their players? These players helped them win trophies and were sold at great prices (asides Gnabry who has been sold). I wonder which team in Europe´s top 3 league has a model like ours of project youth? How many Leagues have they won in the last 10 years? How many trophies? Do they stick to one… Read more »

WengerEagle

”I wonder which team in Europe´s top 3 league has a model like ours of project youth? How many Leagues have they won in the last 10 years? How many trophies? Do they stick to one manger? Do they have a system for a specific manager or as a club?’

benkind on the money with these last two posts.

Put these questions to Pedro, would be quite interested in the answer lol.

Mr Serge

So marina and Bruce buck have both left Chelsea today that’s great news for us

InsideRight

How is that great news for us Mr Serge?

Mr Serge

We Dortmund and Ajax spring to mind with young players

Samesong

Chelsea still have really good players. And will still be up there next season.

TR7

Ajax traditionally the best club in Dutch league and all the best young domestic talents want to play for them. Arsenal not in a similar position.

Dortmund success can largely be attributed to Klopp who is a generational manager.

raptora

Granovskaia will probably want to reunite with Abramovich in some of his other businesses – she’s already worked for him before she took Chelsea’s job. She still has a picture with him as her Twitter cover.

I doubt that our lousy bosses would want a Russian woman to call the shots in our club.

If staying in London is a priority for her, we should be very interested, but we’re also a rival club. All in all, next to nothing chances of it happening.

WengerEagle

Serge

Ajax play in a terrible league and are basically the Bayern Munich of it and hoover up all of the top talent. Biggest club in Holland by far and it isn’t close.

Dortmund won two titles a decade ago and had a little known geezer as manager not sure if you would have heard of him called Jurgen Klopp.

Is Tets on a par with Klopp? Let’s hope so but don’t hold your breath!

Habesha Gooner

WengerEagle Pepe was bought at 72 mil. We were never going to recoup that money. What I am suggesting is we buy players like wea are doing now for 30 to 50 mil prices. Even if there was a loss it won’t be a ridiculous amount Pepe. Inside and WengerEagle Not all our young players will want out at the same time. May be one or two. One or two players won’t derail a project as long as you have good scouting and a good coach. You can replace two players. Even Liverpool are going to replace Salah and Mane… Read more »

WengerEagle

Well said TR7, got there ahead of us..

Habesha Gooner

didn’t develop *

Wicked Willy

Because Marina was so crazily good at spending Roman’s money well!!!

It also means a new captain running the ship. Rarely happens without some turbulence.

They’ve also got a few key ageing players with contracts running down they’ll need to replace.

Hopefully it will be a messy transition for them 🙂

Wicked Willy

Think what happened to us when Dein went…

Tom

If league and CL titles are the aim then project youth has zero chance of success regardless who the manager is.

Naija+soccer

Ishola

They are not hot players on the market but they are good players, including AMN so we should look to get some value for them. If one team won’t pay their worth don’t sell the player to that team.

For example, if Arsenal think Pepe is worth at least 25 million, don’t sell him for 10.

englandsbest

Let’s be honest all last summer’s signings came as a surprise. But yes, some became tortuous transactions because news leaked out. Clearly this summer Edu/Arteta/Josh are trying to avoid a repeat of that tiresome experience – and have succeeded with the two ‘done deals’ signings made, and if we include Matt Turner, that makes three. Thus it may turn out that ALL the summer signings may come as a surprise. The talk of, say, Gabriel J may be nothing but smoke and mirrors. Should we care if we don’t get him nor say Tammy and the Belgian guy? Not if… Read more »

TR7

No owner howsoever good can match the generosity of Roman, so hopefully things go downhill for Chelsea from here on.

Mr Serge

InsideRightJune 20, 2022 16:00:12
How is that great news for us Mr Serge

Errrr Chelsea are losing highly experienced campaigners for new people do I have to spell it out ?

Mr Serge

We I didn’t know Klopp managed Dortmund wow thanks for the education man 🙄
You asked for examples I gave you them

TR7

Wenger the only modern manager before Klopp who got very close to achieve success in a youth project, just that he overdid a tad the youth experiment.

Naija+soccer

Selling Pepe is easy. Just play the guy and let him score a few. And we all know that he can bang them in.

What Arteta should have done is included him in the last games of the season. He would have scored a few and most likely be getting some interests by now.

englandsbest

Tom

Youth matures into adulthood.

WengerEagle

Habesha There’s recouping some and then there’s the situation that we have. We would be doing well to pull in 20% of his purchase fee and he is 27 and has had no major injuries. Lucas Torreira was bought at age 23 for £25m, same story and do you see us even recouping £10m for him? I don’t. Xhaka and Mustafi were both bought at age 24 for a combined £70m. The latter we basically had to cut loose for nothing and the former is still stinking the place out and we couldn’t even get an offer better than £10m… Read more »

Naija+soccer

You don’t keep a good player on the bench perennially, then wonder why you can’t sell the player.

benkind

Well said WengerEagle and TR7 So the best team we can point out to is Dortumund under Klopp and I would be interested in the average age of his squad, the cost of building the squad and how much money they made when they sold most of the players. Additionally, unlike Dortmund we have 2 very deadly teams in Liverpool and City with great managers. The stats that Pep and Klopp boast off in the league is scary. Crazy thing like Leicester wining the league happens but my God beaten these 2 guys with these young players to the league… Read more »

InsideRight

Habesha Gooner – “One or two players won’t derail a project as long as you have good scouting and a good coach. You can replace two players.” OK. Take Saka and Odegaard out of this side permanently right now and tell me how they get replaced by Arsenal. Do you believe we have good scouting at the club? It’s been mentioned before, Arteta was described as a good coach, but which players in the last 2.5 years have been developed to the extent that they are markedly better than they were before? Wouldn’t a good coach have got more out… Read more »

WengerEagle

Serge

Was a joke dude but the point stands. It hasn’t been done in about 10 years and Klopp is an all-time pantheon great manager.

If you are really reaching you could use Milan as an example with Pioli who are quite a young team. The PL is a different beast to Serie A though.

Naija+soccer

Benkind

Top quality posts. Asking the right questions there brother.

Tom

Dortmund are a terrible example.
Bundesliga is a monopoly by all intents and purposes, but even in monopoly the club in question can have a dip in form.
Add a special talent like Klopp into the mix and anything is possible.
However, since his departure Dortmund have truly challenged Bayern only once, when they lost by two points, that’s going on ten years now.

InsideRight

Mr Serge – “Errrr Chelsea are losing highly experienced campaigners for new people do I have to spell it out ?” Buck is being replaced by Todd Boehly because Boehly and Clearlake Capital refuse to spaff money up the wall like Abramovic did. They have chosen to follow the Fenway model used at Liverpool and to drive revenue growth. They have a clear vision and strategy. Whether it works remains to be seen as they are a long way behind Liverpool’s organisation and structure. As for Granovskaia, her transfer negotiations were made easier by having an owner hosing cash everywhere… Read more »

Thorough

Our scouting is tosh. If we spend circa 60 mil on Raphinha and Man UNITED gets Antony for 40 mil IL be gutted.
My absolute dream signings were Gravenberg and Antony. Sadly both of them are about to be sold for a combined fee of 60 to 65million.

We need to better pund or pound.