SPURS PROGRESS – STRATEGIC BRILLIANCE OR DRUNK GUY ROLLING DICE (AGAIN)?

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Listen, at the end of the day, we all have to collectively take an L on Spurs last season. They had more in the locker than Arsenal when it came down to it and we have to work out a way to be better next season.

What I can’t have is all this bollocks about what a genius Antonio Conte is, it’s totally nauseating. There are two schools of thought when it comes to creating success at a football club.

You do it the hard way like Liverpool. Set a vision, hire the right people, recruit talent, grow the talent, create sustainable success over years.

You do it the fast way like Inter Milan. Your vision is ‘win at all costs’, you hire in a short term world class manager, you let him sign NOW players, you pray to all the gods he delivers, you worry about what’s next after he wins something big.

Today, I’m going to talk to you about Spurs season in general and how I see this Inter Milan approach working out for them.

Spurs had a few things that went for them this season that are very unlikely to go for them for this upcoming term.

The most impressive thing they did this season was go unbeaten in 4 games against Liverpool and City. You could call this ruthless consistency, you could call it peak-Conte, or you could just say they had a pretty lucky run.

Against City, they scored 4 goals across two games from 8 shots on target. City had almost double the attempts at their goal over the two games, that sort of luck against them doesn’t usually hold.

Similar story against Liverpool in which they drew two games. 40 shots to 20. Spurs also had Liverpool after they played a draining game in the Champions League semi-finals, how many times did Arsenal play big teams after European exploits this season? Let’s talk about that December game against Liverpool, Harry Kane goes in for a leg breaker, doesn’t get a red card from the same ref that sent off Holding for a shoulder barge, then Robertson gets a sending off later in the match. Spurs avoid a 3 game ban for Harry Kane who scores in 2 of the next 3 games.

Let’s talk about sendings off last season. Which team was bottom of the league for sendings off?

Spurs with 1. Which team was top of the league for having the most players sent off against them? Spurs. They didn’t lose a single game in which a red card was awarded to the other team… but the two games when they picked up the only red card, they lost… to Mura and Crystal Palace. They beat Vitesse when going down to 10 men because the Dutch side went down to 9. Do you think that trend holds next season?

Spurs 3rd top goalscorer last season was OWN GOAL. Only Saka and Smith Rowe scored more than OWN GOAL did for Spurs. That is a remarkable statistic that you are really going to struggle to convince me is a feature we’ll see next season.

The season’s luckiest come back, statistically calculated by Oracle, was… Spurs vs Leicester when they scored two goals in injury time. It had a 0.02% chance of happening. How many games go to 95 minutes? How many go to 97 minutes? It was madness. They are litearlly winning awards for their improbable luck.

Then let’s move onto something that Spurs do get credit for. Son and Kane. Two of the best strikers to never have won a trophy. Those two were the cheat code. They are 28 and 29, both managed to start 35 and 37 games respectively. Incredible work from their fitness team, but I’m gonna do a madness here and gamble that with Champions League next season, that pristine fitness is unlikely to happen ever again. Do you think the genius of Conte is going to manage that sort of loss well?

My bet here is that Spurs are going to be on the struggle bus next season. They will have to manage 3 games a week from September, their squad is old, and Conte is pretty notorious for being poor at managing more than a game a week… even at Spurs. I mean, he’s so bad at it, Spurs had to get themeslves disqualified from the Europa Conference League so he could do his job this season.

‘BUT THEY BORROWED MONEY’

Everyone is talking about the £150m loan like it’s purely for transfers, but I’m not so sure. Spurs have two loan players they’ve committed big money towards and Daniel Levey is the shrewdest operator in the game, he fights over every penny, I’m not sure he’s one for announcing to the world exactly how much cash his club has available with a stock issue. Spurs are £706m in debt, tehy had a pretax loss of £80m last November, they’ve just raised £100m, and there’s £50m due on Romero/Bentancur this summer. They have an option of £45m on Kululevski. That’s £90m gone already if this cash is for transfers. Where is the rest of the rebuild money coming from and do you REALLY think Antonio Conte and Paratici are the types to speculate to accumulate with young up and comers? Their first signing of the summer is Ivan Perisic, a 33-year-old Arsenal fans were arguing was too old when we were linked 4 years ago. Their second looks like it’ll be Fraser Forster, a 34 year old.

‘Those are shrewd signings’ feels like the sort of chatter we had when we signed Stephan Lichtsteiner, Sokratis, and Mikhi. It is REALLY hard to make the transition from one of the slower leagues in Europe to the most powerful at 33 years old. But, I don’t give a shit, he might be a good player, but Spurs loading up with geriatrics is exactly the sort of short-term thinking I’m all about for them. My hope is Daniel Levy lets Conte have a summer like he did after he won the league with Chelsea. He dropped a team that landed 93 points to 5th on 70 points.

Spurs have a poverty version of what happened at Chelsea. Conte has come in, taken a decent team to a better position, now the power will reside with him. When he got the power with the West London club, he signed Alvaro Morata, Bakayoko, Danny Drinkwater, and Zappacosta. If he can repeat this in 2022, I will be VERY happy.

It is super odd to watch Daniel Levy roll dice like a drunk in a casino with people that have a history of leaving an expensive mess.

… but again, I’m here for it.

Liverpool vs Real Madrid in the Champions League final. I have to say, I’d much prefer Liverpool to win, but the story of Benzema feels like a powerful narrative. Should be a delicious afternoon of football. I hope you are cracking a few beers and spending it with friends. Have a great day and sign up to our Patreon if you like our content.

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WengerEagle

Good post Mystic. Not sure how with a straight face anyone can deny even in this day and age that £400m is an expensive first XI and £520m on the 14 players used. It’s possible to concede that Klopp and Liverpool are not quite the plucky underdogs some make them out to be. Are they on par with City’s spending? Of course not, but as said yesterday they are closer to City than some midtable club’s spending. If you spend £600m on assembling a sqyad then you should be competing for titles. Do not take United’s hilarious incompetence as the… Read more »

WengerEagle

Market value is a terrible metric to go off of Tom.

I remember when Guendouzi’s ‘market value’ was quoted at £70m. It is nonsensical and fiction.

David Smith

Think the stadium thing is over played. Ours was designed over 20 years ago, and though it needs work, it’s not the worst, and it’s closer than some to being paid for

WengerEagle

“They are still on the bench ready to play aren’t they.”

You are really reaching there to be honest. You played nearly as many meaningful CL minutes as both combined.

Almuniasaynomore

I don’t understand the victimhood that English fans embrace. There is a dangerous thuggish element that may be a minority but a deadly one at that. To consider themselves treated unfairly is to turn a blind eye to some horrendous events. Here’s one where they turned Lansdowne into a war zone in a pre planned and totally unprovoked attack,ripping up seats and throwing them at the crowd below,many of whom were children.
https://youtu.be/oN-voEwlrko
To sweep this stuff under the carpet is irresponsible.

Tom

Weagle
I suppose then when Barca won the CL with Messi, Iniesta Xavi, and Busquets they did it on the cheap because they spent zero in transfers on them.

WengerEagle

Also Bale was bought in 2013 so it is weird to bring up his transfer fee when comparing it to Klopp’s spend who arrived at Liverpool 2.5 years after this and Bale hasn’t been even really relevant to Real Madrid in 3 years.

TR7

Yes Klopp too has spent considerable amount of money to build this Liverpool team. It is just that Pep’s City pay over the odds for players because they don’t need to haggle over prices that spending of Liverpool is somehow gets overshadowed.

Tom

Comparing Liverpool position to RM in their domestic leagues or in Europe is like night and day.
Klopp is literally the only draw for players to consider that club when United, City, and until Roman got the boot, Chelsea were interested,
Even in Wenger years players took less money to join Arsenal over Pool.

While Real is the club everyone wants to play for no matter the manager.
They recently asked Kroos if he wanted to come back to Bayern and he laughed in their faces.

WengerEagle

Tom

How many homegrown players are in the Real XI? Again don’t see your point. You’re cherry-picking a very rste exception from over a decade ago.

WengerEagle

Rare*

WengerEagle

I don’t even know what argument you are making any more Tom?

Are you still in denial that £600m is a lot of money to spend and that Klopp hasn’t done all this on the cheap?

Tom

Weagle, so let me get this straight,
Wages are irrelevant because Real pays crazy wages, and transfers are only relevant if in the last two years and players are still fancied ………but I’m the one reaching, ok

WengerEagle

Tom

No, a 2013 transfer is irrelevant because Klopp was still in Germany when he was bought. And that is £100m right there.

Bale hasn’t been used since 2019 and was bought in 2013 so why include him in a comparison list for the two squads assembled with Klopp as manager since 2016?

Is £600m a lot to spend or not in your opinion?

TR7

Every club at the top of the pyramid spends a lot of money.

City, Chelsea, United and Liverpool have paid big money for players.

Real Madrid and Barca have huge pulling power and still spend mega in transfer market.

Bayern Munich have ravaged numerous Bundesliga clubs by plucking their best players. Besides every German international eventually wants to play for them.

PSG a basket case of petro dollar club

Only Seria A clubs spend less but then Italian clubs haven’t had much success in UCL in recent times.

WengerEagle

Of course TR7, good luck competing in the modern game without a massive spend. Happens every so often that we see something glorious like Leicester’s title win (well, not this lol), Monaco and Lille winning Ligue 1 and Atletico winning La Liga in 2014 with a low spend but generally yes, the major competitions are dominated by the big spenders. Klopp has done phonemenal at Liverpool so I don’t want anything I am pointing out taken out of context. But he has had significant investment behind him and has not done it alone. He needed a £200m injection of VVD,… Read more »

Habesha Gooner

Yes klopp has spent a lot of money. But he has spent less than a lot of teams. Gone are the days that you can win anything by spending pennies. We have spent more than Klopp in the past five years. So have United. And a lot of other teams. Investing without strategy is nothing. I am glad they didn’t win both of the major trophies. But it still is an achievement going right down to the wire for those prizes. Ot means your team has done everything in their power to get there and they just came up short.… Read more »

englandsbest

Mee

An honest statement. If we we’d made it into CL,we stood no chance of winning – and I have an aversion to Arsenal competing with no chance of winning. A measure of respect for the Club.

Yes, I know about the extra cash, its attraction to possible signings – but what fan wants Arsenal to be cannon fodder for the true competitors?

WengerEagle

Habesha We have been run laughably while Liverpool have been a water-tight operation since 2016. £72m for Pepe, a fringe player nowadays who barely gets a look-in. Looks a £20m player at best. Pool got the best CB on the planet in VVD for the same fee. We have yet to even use a £30m player in Saliba while Pool are buying pieces like Salah and Mane for only a handful of million more than that. This is why I roll my eyes when Pedro creams about how ‘elite’ an operation we are and how all the data nerds at… Read more »

curse

I agree, I’d rather be where we are in stadium terms 100%, 20 years is a long time though, no safe standing etc…
I guess I’m missing the days when we were the innovators/trend setters. This new regime appears to be getting back to that in fairness. The renovations though pale in comparison to the naming rights and sponsors. I like that Arsenal have brought community business into the frame recently. Begins to feel like propaganda though when you see who else we’re in bed with. I think they’re missing a trick hanging onto certain sponsors.

Tom

I don’t even know what argument you are making any more Tom? Are you still in denial that £600m is a lot of money to spend and that Klopp hasn’t done all this on the cheap? Weagle, the same argument I always make , which is show me what you’ve won and how much money it took to get you there. Klopp has taken two clubs to CL finals and this is the only time he’s lost when on even footing. He lost to Bayern with Dortmund on half the Bavarian’s wage bill. He lost to RM in 2018 when… Read more »

englandsbest

Almuniasaynomore

There are victims and there is ‘victimhood’, a way to make people feel sorry for you. Like women seen on TV bursting into tears for that purpose. What happened to the stiff upper lip?

Habesha Gooner

Weagle To be honest, the problems came way before we started these young players. 72 mil for Pepe, 50 mil for Lacazette, 56 mil for Auba (although he was good for us for a while), 35 mil for Mustafi, 18 mil for Sokratis, 33 mil for Xhaka, 18 mil for Lucas Perez, 14 mil for Mari (Arteta’s fault), 26 mil for Torreira and the list goes on. We would be lucky to make 60 mil on those investments in resale value. I don’t think we have been as poor at recruitment since Arteta came in. But the results are yet… Read more »

englandsbest

curse

Right now Arsenal ARE the innovators, the trendsetters

IAT-Robbie

“If we we’d made it into CL,we stood no chance of winning – and I have an aversion to Arsenal competing with no chance of winning. A measure of respect for the Club.”

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Is this a serious comment?

Even Sporting, Olympiacos and Napoli fans don’t say stuff like this.

There’s always a chance to finish 3rd in the group and get demoted to the Europa League anyway.

TR7

“.Gabriel and Odegaard have been Bargains in my eyes”

Both overrated especially the latter.

IAT-Robbie

EB,

You HAVE to be a troll. You just have to be😂😂😂

WengerEagle

Tom Liverpool are no paupers and Klopp has spent a lot of money to assemble such an amazing squad was the main point, you are spinning off into other directions about Real, Pep, Bale and Hazard, etc. Losing track of what argument is being made. And give over with the goofy ‘battered and stats show it’ take. 24 efforts and how many were meaningful? Courtois made two excellent saves all night, one from Mane and one from Salah. The rest were saves you would expect a keeper of his quality to make. Does anybody else who watched the match last… Read more »

Habesha Gooner

TR7
You don’t rate Odegaard. But he has been a very successful signing. 30 mil in this day and age is nothing for a player like him. We could get at least 50 mil if we were to sell him today.

Same for Gabriel. We paid 27 mil for him. He cost less than every Center Back United have got. Half of most of City’s center backs.

Both of them have been Bargains. And this isn’t their top level yet. They have more to go too.

englandsbest

IAT-Robbie

Yes, a very serious comment.

Wouldn’t you feel ashamed to see Arsenal demoted. I would.

WengerEagle

Habesha Time will tell indeed. Not seen much inprovement myself this season overall and certainly not what you would expect with a £135m haul. 8 points total with a much inferior GD if you exclude the last day stat-padding massacre of a hungover Everton from celebrating guaranteed safety on Thursday night before the Sun. And that was with no midweek games since Jan. No Cup distractions at all, dumped out of the 3rd round by Forest. Do some of these players we are buying have better resale value at least? Sure but that should never be the motivation for buying… Read more »

Habesha Gooner

Some of the negativity in our fan base is ridiculous to me. A 23 year old Odegaard didn’t deliver the CL football in the end. But he is still a superb player.

I saw a poll where United fans picked him ahead of Bruno Fernandez. Most chelsea fans said they would take him, same for spurs fans. We don’t have to shit on our players if they are doing okay.

WengerEagle

Habesha

I am still hopeful Odegaard can kick on but who in their right mind is paying £50m + for him right now? Name the club.

WengerEagle

Don’t Arsenal fans notoriously hack online polls?

I am sure there was a rather infamous example. They are to be taken with the biggest truckload of salt.

Bob N16

To quote, the sage that is Michael Owen, ‘The team that scores most goals usually wins’. Liverpool didn’t score and RM scored so…..

TR7

Habesha

Just because we can possibly sell Ode for more than what we paid for him does not make him a successful signing. I am sure that’s not the aim of AFC. Ode flops against all good teams is what makes his signing a waste of money. Recycling the ball is not “success”.

Habesha Gooner

Weagle Do you believe this us the best our players can do or do you think they have levels to go? If you think the players are alright then the recruitment is okay. Then the question will be the manager. He has recruited well. But I don’t know if he is getting the best out of them. I personally think the recruitment has been good. The manager though has made some shocking decisions that has let the team down. I think he is okay at getting the best out of average Joe’s. The likes of Xhaka and Elneny. But I… Read more »

CG

HG

””’TR7 You don’t rate Odegaard. But he has been a very successful signing.””

Real Madrid , know what they are doing and thats why they flogged him to us for £30 000 000.
(He is a poor man’s Ozil.)

Good player in the home matches against fodder: not one for Newcastle away – when the whole season is riding on it.

WengerEagle

Half of my town support United and I have yet to talk to a supporter that prefers Odegaard to Bruno Fernandes.

Didn’t Bruno actually top that cherry-picked ‘big chances created’ stat that attempted to put Ode in a positive light?

IAT-Robbie

EB,

If, hypothetically, Arsenal had finished 3rd in our inaugural return to the Champions League ( like next season), I literally wouldn’t care.

Why would I. We’d still have the Europa League to play for. Athletico Madrid pipped us to the Europa League trophy under similar circumstances. Their fans didn’t care.

TR7

“I saw a poll where United fans picked him ahead of Bruno Fernandez”

That’s not a ringing endorsement. Both are average players.

Habesha Gooner

Weagle
Newcastle, Man city if they didn’t have Foden, Bernardo and Debruyne, Barcelona if they weren’t in a financial crisis. I genuinely believe he is a 50 mil player right now.

WengerEagle

Habesha If we are spending all this money to assemble a perennial top 4 chasing team then sure it looks legit but we keep getting told that we will compete for titles within a year or so. I am not convinced by this group. As others have said the people making these title predictions are making the dangerous assumption that all young players improve exponentially which is not the case. Is Odegaard a good player? Clearly yes. On his day he is excellent but he has too many days where he looks half asleep and is anonymous. At least Ozil… Read more »

englandsbest

IAT-Robbie

Following your line of thought, why stop there? Why not count 4th place as a trophy?

Demotion into Europa was just a ‘fake’ way of adding interest (and money) to a second-tier tournament.

WengerEagle

Habesha So Newcastle who are in the infant stage of their project and are spunking £30m on strikers that don’t score goals or can run may pay over the odds for him? It doesn’t really prove the argument, Newcastle right now have to massively overpay for players because everyone can see them coming for miles. Ode doesn’t get into City’s team or close to it. Grealish was one of the best players in the PL last season and even he cannot crack the XI consistently. I think you overrate Ode. He’s not going to be an elite midfielder for us… Read more »

WengerEagle

He clearly doesn’t need to be elite by the way, I would be over the moon with very good even.

Think you and Rich particularly though see him as the next coming of KDB tho which he isn’t going to come close to. KDB is a phenom, Ode is a good player and potentially very good.

Nelson

Klopp spoke to BT Sport after the game:” The opponent set up with a deep formation,. Courtois made top saves. We conceded a goal after a throw-in.”

CG

WE

””I think you overrate Ode. He’s not going to be an elite midfielder for us imo.””

Q) Does he perform in the big matches away?
A) No

Q) Did Zidane rate him ?
A) No

Q) Does Zidane know about midfielders?
A) Yes.

andy1886

All this exaggerating certain players or a manager’s merits really doesn’t do them any favours. If Arteta had been sold as a decent young manager learning his trade who had potential to be great one day most people would accept that. But hailing him from the off as a ‘generational’ talent based on zero evidence just pisses people off and prejudices them against him from the start. Most of us are not stupid so don’t try and treat us like we are. Same applies to players. Certain posters have been hailing Odegaard as ‘world class’ again based on very little.… Read more »

WengerEagle

Did Real Madrid regret selling Ozil? Clearly not, they went on to win 4 CL titles in 5 years without him.

Will Real regret selling Odegaard? Well that hasn’t got off to a convincing start either with the CL and La Liga triumphs.

TR7

Real Madrid chose to stick with midfielders on the wrong side of 30 than with Odegaard.

englandsbest

As ever there are two major competitions: others count, but nowhere near as much.

Time was they were the first division and the FA Cup. Nowadays they are the premiership and the CL

All the same, winning the Europa would be nice.

WengerEagle

It’s why I don’t subscribe to this all signings must be below 26 stuff. You saw how easily we mentally capitulated in the pressure games at Spurs and Newcastle with something on the line. You need those veterans and some leadership to guide the younger players when things are not going your way and you are facing adversity and intense pressure. Why do we never win games when we go behind? Same reason. 33 year old David Luiz a serial winner and a PL/CL champion was massive for us in winning that FA Cup in 2020 at the heart of… Read more »

IAT-Robbie

Habesha, Bellerin’s value only crashed because he got demotivated after Arteta and the club rejected a £25m bid from PSG for him. (I think) it’s not just a case of us selling too low, it’s also that we’ve garnered a reputation for being difficult to deal with. We’ve rejected so many bids for players over the years and left things to the last minute. Only to see them leave on a free or negligible sum. Xhaka – Roma AMN – Wolves Bellerin – PSG Mustafi – Inter Milan Lacazette – Roma Sanchez – Man City Chambers – Middlesbrough, Leicester, Fulham… Read more »

IAT-Robbie

EB,

LoL. Following YOUR line of thought, why stop there? Why not count 5th place as a trophy? Seeing as you’re implying we’re not worthy of the Champions League.

Habesha Gooner

Weagle Madrid clearly didn’t want to sell Odegaard. They wanted to get funds for Mbappe. And I didn’t say he was going to be elite. Not sure you can say that about any player except for rare talents like Haaland and Mbappe. But at 30 mil he is going to be very good value. And he is going to be very good player for us. It doesn’t matter that a lot of clubs are in financial crisis. But he is a 50 mil player. He has raised his profile since he has come in. And he is 23. How many… Read more »

G

‘’ Some of the negativity in our fan base is ridiculous to me. A 23 year old Odegaard didn’t deliver the CL football in the end. But he is still a superb player.‘’
Spot on, though some believe he just passes sideways

Jonko

Mane leaving Pool..another blow for them…Salah VVD and many others.on the wrong side of 30..the downfall has started..not that they were too dominant anyway..second to City always but this was the last season where they really had a chance and like always they bottled it…long may the scouser misery continue. Here’s how I can sum up Liverpool and Klopp vs Pep and Man City debate: Pep and City are the victims of their own success Liverpool and Klopp are the victims of their own ambition That right there is the difference Liverpool will always be known as the “almost there”… Read more »

Habesha Gooner

IAT robbie We are clearly shit at selling players. Wenger eagle It’s why I don’t subscribe to this all signings must be below 26 stuff. We capitulated this time but we won’t in three years if our players stay together and we keep adding quality. Liverpool the model team for building a team on a budget, signed all their main players 26 or under. Thiago the only one that bucked the trend and even then they signed a world class CM at 27 mil not at 50 mil+. They succeeded when they were reaching the ages of 27 to 30.… Read more »

Habesha Gooner

Sadio Mane wanting to leave Liverpool is a big blow to our chances of signing Gnabry. Liverpool will probably go for Gnabry now. I can even see a swap with pool paying a little bit of money.

Bayern get their CF in Mane and sell Lewandowski to Barcelona and they will get a new winger. Liverpool will have their winger replacement and have Jota and Firminho as STs.

We will be the real losers in this.

andy1886

Mane leaving ‘Pool also means more competition for striking talent this summer.

Nigel Tufnel

Tom
It’s natural to have an Arsenal bias on an Arsenal blog.

What do you expect?

Then, the next most normal thing is to be biased against tottenham and any other English club.

I compliment other clubs occasionally, but my preference is always clear. When people attack Pedro for being a normal gooner, it is just bizarre.

How does anyone not get this?

Mb

To all the Arteta haters, he coached Dani boy into a Champions League winner.

Go F yourself. /s

Samesong

Watch my boy Djed tear it up today.

Aaron

Two points: reaL, managed by a great manager who fits that team well, won the game the only way they could have. we are not managed by that same type of manager nor are we run with the same type of ruthlessness. WengerEagle, Appreciate your insights, but you are way off on this one. Most who saw that CL game know that Courtois single handedly won them that game. At best without those saves it would have been 3 or 4 to 2 pool most days. At least pool tried to attack, while reaL looked like playing optimum moaniho, which… Read more »

Nigel Tufnel

Habesha,

I’m not surprised opposing fans appreciate ødegaard. I understand rating players of other teams, I just think some Grovers do it more than normal.

andy1886

Would be nice to see Forest back in the top flight again.

Wicked Willy

I wonder if there’s anyone here who raves about Real Madrid’s way of doing things but also raves about Ozil? Because of course RM got shot of Ozil, apparently because of his off field shenanigans. In fact I believe it was Ancellotti who got shot of him. So people blaming Arteta for getting rid of Ozil and other undesirables whilst praising Ancellotti’s man-management seem to be overlooking this fact. We all know Ozil was truly gifted, but he wasn’t suited to the modern pressing game, and he has been a consistent disruptive influence. I’m quite satisfied with Odegaard’s trajectory, and… Read more »

andy1886

Of course he insisted on leaving, here’s what Ancelloti had to say about him last August just prior to the start of their league season:

Ancelotti: “I’ve told Odegaard there are eight players in his position and for now he’s not registered”

And that’s a direct quote.

China1

Weagle ozil absolutely did not consistently show up against sub top 6 sides. He vanished very often against average and lower sides, especially away from home and if they were up for the game

Pierre

Nigel Tufnell “I compliment other clubs occasionally, but my preference is always clear. When people attack Pedro for being a normal gooner, it is just bizarre.” A normal gooner, are you sure about that Have you forgotten the previous 10 years or so before Arteta arrived. Pedro and his cronies were an embarrassment to Arsenal football club with their continuous abuse towards Arsena Wenger… It is only now that we are seeing what a difficult job it is to manage Arsenal what with the never ending anti Arsenal bias from the media and the referees , as well as a… Read more »

Tom

Mane spent his best years on £100kpw , which is incredible considering what the likes of Bayern, City, PSG, and Real pay similar talent.

Nigel Tufnel

Habesha,

I think it was wishful to think we had a shot at Gmabry anyway. I do hope it doesn’t end up strengthening pool for Mane to leave.

Naija+soccer

I can’t picture Mane leaving Liverpool. Him and Liverpool are a match made in heaven. Going to Bayern Munich to replace Lewandowski ? I don’t really see it.

Naija+soccer

How many big chances did Odegaard created this season ? Maybe that will shed light on how devastating his vision and techniques are.

If we are only 17th in big chances created, that’s a sign that we are not one of the top attacking teams. It also reflects badly on the main chance creator.

Thorough

Anyone who prefers Odegard to Fernandes is being disingenuous. I can count 4 playmaker in non top-4 teams that can give us better. And it’s a lie that we underate out players, Cazotla came in and won us all over in a matter of weeks. We’ve watched Odegard for 18 months and nobody knows what he’s really spectacular at.

Even Ancelloti is giving Ceballos minutes even though we all derided him. He ever even bothered to waste time on Odegard. That must mean something,

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