PALACE PREVIEW

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Some Arsenal squad news has been leaked by an academy prospects DAD. Marcelo Flores, our young Mexican/Canadian attacking midfielder, is apparently in the squad and we know because his old man dropped a ‘I’M PROUD’ tweet he probably didn’t expect to go viral.

This is an interesting move. Arteta has been rotating a group of youngsters on the bench over the last month. He hasn’t used them. But it’s all good experience at this stage and it keeps those players motivated to keep on pushing in training.

Flores has quite a lot of press around him. He recently made his debut for the Mexican national team, coming on as a left-sided winger. He wants to make his full debut for Arsenal and Mexico by the age of 19. He said this:

“And I’d like to get my proper international debut for Mexico and hopefully be involved in the Qatar World Cup. I idolise players like [Lionel] Messi, [Cristiano] Ronaldo and Neymar, who have all done the same thing.

“Looking up to players like them, you want to match what they did because like any player, my ultimate dream is to win things like the Champions League and the Ballon d’Or.”

You gotta love the players he loves.

It’ll be interesting to see if his inclusion has come at the cost of a more senior player with fitness issues. Gabriel was in Brazil, Saka had COVID, you never know what is going on with ESR. Hopefully, he’s just taking a space on the bench because he’s been impressive in training.

There are also rumours that Irish left-back Mazeed Ogungbo has also made the cut. I know less about him than Flores, but he seems to have a blend of excellent delivery from deep, good crossing, and an eye for goal. He’s also quite a big player for a left-back, which maybe has appeal for Arteta who has a right-back that is also a decent centre-back.

I suspect Ramsdale will be rested, it sounds like he’s the sort of player that will lie about the state he’s in. It’d be no good to lose him for the rest of the season, especially when Bernd Leno has looked so solid.

I wasn’t writing as prolifically last week, but I did notice Gary Neville popping off at Arsenal again. This time, he’s suggesting that if Arsenal does manage to make Top 4 this season, that will be the height of our success, and because of that… Arteta should move clubs.

Let’s be clear here, a big weakness in G Nevs armour is his lack of vision or ability to see beyond the now. He couldn’t see what was happening at United under Ole G, he couldn’t see how damaging the signing of Ronaldo would be to the system, he doesn’t give Ralf Rangnick any slack despite him only being there a few months… and he went on record to say he couldn’t see what Arsenal were doing at the start of the season, despite it being painfully obvious what the strategy was.

Why would anyone pay attention to someone that has no vision? How are Arsenal anywhere near finished if we make top 4? We have the youngest team in the league, the youngest manager in the league, and we’re 3 signings away from being extremely competitive at the top of the league. Especially if you believe like many that Pep and Klopp will likely move on to new projects.

Thierry damaged himself for the same reasons. I’ll always love him, but when you go against the club, you’ve got to be sure that it’s grounded in something more than naked ambition, otherwise you might look silly.

Palace news is looking positive on the injury front. Michael Olise and Wilfried Zaha look likely to miss the game. McArthur and Ferguson are late fitness tests. The game will still be tough. The atmosphere will be electric and I’m sure Patrick will have a bit of a chip on his shoulder because he thought he should have been considered in higher esteem over the Arsenal job. This has a bit of the David Oleary / Leeds about it.

… but Arteta needs to focus his team. The biggest thing we have to battle with is inexperience or as Klopp put it… maturity.

The average age of the Liverpool starting 11 this season has been about 29. They are pure winners. There is no situation that squad of players hasn’t been in. There is no situation they haven’t turned around. It’s a winning machine.

Arsenal don’t have the muscle memory. Every exercise is a new one. So far, we’ve managed everything really well, the naiviete of youth and the lack of Banter Era baggage has seen us through. The hope is that continues, but I do think we need to ground ourselves in reality and not kid ourselves that the next ten games are going to be wins.

The next 3 games would be a success if we take 7 points. If we can drop 9, even better. That then puts a whole heap of pressure on Spurs to beat Arsenal in their home game, and it also makes their Liverpool game, that is at Anfield, even more crucial.

3 points tonight would be delicious, let’s see what Arteta and the boys have ready for us.

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Thorough

Arsenal are such a frustrating club. And most of the fans are in denial. When Arteta was selling the whole house in January people complained and were shut down by the Arteta fans who could see nothing wrong. We are seeing Wenger all over again, the only difference is that this one has achieved nothing and has the ego of a World Heavyweight champion. Are we the only ones who must see the blindingly obvious and ignore it? Sold our talisman, captain and only goal getter but refused to buy a replacement or bring in a short-term stopgap. Saw players… Read more »

Killroy-TM

Zacharse “What I saw was young players making young player mistakes and a woefully biased ref” Yep, a typical AKB response, and thank you for reminding me of the young team part, but it suits the AKBs to point to that as an advantage for the future, but used as an excuse when AFC looses. I will add it to the list of AKBs excuses that I previously mentioned here like: Shit happens and bad games are the result, or how about Zaha is a cunt or how about there are more games to come don’t panic. Feel free to… Read more »

Thorough

*thus not this
*Overhype not overhyped
*Cue not clue

Zacharse

Hahahha another wenger. And my favorite part is that until 3 games into this season the arteta out crowd was being shut down. Thats fucking rich mate.

Killroy-TM

Fraud is not instantly discovered, however after 2+ years it is now apparent that Arsenal’s manager is Fraudeta even worst the Arteta Fan boys here have drunk his cool aid.

Killroy-TM

On ESPN-FC it was summed up perfectly we saw today the Arsenal of Old the one that started the season they had no one to lead them and what to do. ESR, Ode and Saka were upfront with Laca not stopping the midfield to be overrun, that should have been changed 20 minutes in but no they stayed up front and that is down to the manager. Yep we saw the Arsenal today that lost their first 3 games and with the tougher schedule compared to Spuds both are on 10-11 odds with the bookies. If Conte schools Arteta in… Read more »

Madhu

The loss was a tough one to take. Credit where it’s due CP looked more hungry, quick, athletic and deadly when given a chance. We on the other hand looked dreadful, unable to string passes together and unable to take chances. We were better ins.wcond half as CP took the gas off the pedal. While the defeat in itself is not the issue but the manner of it is dissapointing. With Partey leaving in teh middle yet again we are in for a long couple of months. Two points that worries me and i had mentioned earlier after Jan clearout… Read more »

Nelson

When Newcastle was destroyed by the Spuds, we were saying that the Newcastle players have already checked out. I fully expected that the Palace players would do the same. They are not fighting for Top4. Man! was I wrong. They were hungrier than our players. Credits have to be given to Vieria who manages to get his team so fired up.

Omozuafo Frank

What a bad day. The Spurs have always been referred to as bottlers but can anyone bottle it more than we did tonight? The boys better bounce back big in the next match. As for Party, he will be okay. He only went off to save face. As it is now, we also need to pray for our closest rivals opponents to do us some good since we cannot rely solely on our boys to get us the top four.

Omozuafo Frank

*Partey

Samesong

I must say playing Brighton doesn’t feel me with confidence after this loss. Brighton always have lots of energy against us.

Not going to cry over the CP defeat but I hope Tomi is close to full fitness as we need him.

Samesong

‘I fully expected that the Palace players would do the same:

No team checks out for Arsenal 🔴 in fact teams love to kick us when we are down.

Kegunner

Arteta’s hand been called to squad rotation. He should rotate more often for unpredictability and to have a large base of form players. Odegard plus ESR leaves us weak in the middle of the pack should be a game chasing tactic not a starting team. Another hard lesson for the team they will pick up and improve. Need for leadership in this moments. Xhaka orchestrated the team almost to a draw on the left side of the pitch. Summer signings need to be composed communicaters with experience in diverse competitions to complement the squad. Players like Dybala and Lewandoski should… Read more »

Tony

Paddy schooled Arteta in tactics and management. Paddy’s players play without fear whereas our players were fearful of making mistakes that actually led to more mistakes. Paddy is doing what I expected Arteta to do in his first half a season in charge. I’ve watched most of Palace’s because of what Paddy instills in his players and how he gets so much from his players. This game has been coming for a while where we simply didn’t turn up in the first half and were stifled by Paddy tactics in the 2nd that Arteta had no answer to. He was… Read more »

Zacharse

Killroy lol
Drinking kool aid. Like youd know a fucking thing about it. I grew up down the street from half the grateful dead, you dont know shit about kool aid or how sport and athletes work.
You do know how to spout off some paid pundits view pretty well tho. True fan clearly

Zacharse

“We weren’t at the races, especially in the first half,” Arteta said. “We were late to every ball, we were soft in the duels and we didn’t earn the right to play. We were sloppy on the ball and we didn’t have any dominance, any sequences of play where we could take some control of the game and we conceded two poor goals [before half-time]. Overall it’s unacceptable. We put our hands up, apologise, regroup.”

Sounds exactly like wenger loooool

Sid

Partey has exhausted his quota of good games this season, expected average performance for the remaining games.

6 out of 8 g/a of Odegaard are against bottom 5 teams.

Kegunner

It’s true Arteta seams not to have a plan b maybe to the thin nature of the squad. He has a base of play which he needs to add dynamism to or he can develop his players to perfect his system.

Killroy-TM

@Tony “We looked anything but a 4th place side” If you would ask someone who does not know the teams table position who is fighting for top 4, no one would have said Arsenal. Arteta knew how important this game was after the Chelsea loss but he couldn’t get the team up for that nor device a strategy while Patty did his job. There is talk of him being named manager of the year for the job he has done at CP. “It’s how we bounce back and what has Arteta learnt from that costly loss is what matters” Hasn’t… Read more »

Cheffy

lacklustre display by the team but before we go into meltdown, I do think Vieira has the number of pep and tets. He has also been doing a better job in crystal palace than in his previous managerial roles

Sid

CP players have the physicality of Viera(Grandmaster of the order of longstuff)

Killroy-TM

@Zarcharse
Please don’t embarrass yourself and remove all doubts how dimwitted you are by not knowing the expression of “Drinking the Kool-Aid” which originated from events in Jonestown. You are so extremely wedded to Arteta’s process that you would “drink the Kool-Aid” and die for that calamitous process..

IAT-Robbie

Herb, That was very well put and I have to agree. You have to wonder if the Board of Directors actually have a vision for this club that doesn’t involve just existing. As long as I’ve been a fan, the Kroenkes have never taken the proactive steps necessary to set the club for long-term success. Jurgen Klopp was the most Wenger-esque manager available. He is long-term, budget conscious, a pioneer and a dark horse. Everything prime Wenger was. Instead of approaching him, the Board decided to stay in the safety zone of a familiar but declining Wenger until it was… Read more »

Zacharse

Killroy
You are too fucking dumb to even respond to but i will. There is a book called
The electric kool aid acid test written about events quite a bit before mkultra jonestown happened. Fucking know itall know nothing. Your take here is just as nuanced as the rest of em

Tony

“He has also been doing a better job in crystal palace than in his previous managerial roles” Cheffy that’s where Paddy was gaining experience (New York & France) from to work his way to the PL. Arteta thought he didn’t need that route, so he’s still learning on the job for us. I always wanted Paddy instead of Arteta and why I was interested to see how Paddy operated in the PL with a team with little money and loans. The fact that Gallagher is loaned to Palace when we were woefully thin in midfield raises more questions about our… Read more »

Kegunner

Crystal Palace first goal was lucky, second a defensive mistake and last a penalty. Arsenal may have gotten away with a draw or narrow win in that game. Seems that the players were out of sorts. A wrinkle mostly. Arteta though should know there will be games like this and should develop his tactics and players for such like situations. Players that hold the ball in the final third. Natural goal scorers are needed. Players that can come in and make a difference are required. Rushing Saka and Ramsdale back soon was a risk. The defence and goalie positions are… Read more »

Tony

I’d be happy if we can nick Gallagher from Palace and the Chavs. Gallagher and Party would make a great pairing.

Sid

Leno would have comfortably saved the goals

Sid

The only Arsenal fans willing to accept 6th are under 16 years or over 60 yrs. (Tony not included)

Let that sink in

Sid

65m for CF, around 50m for CM is the minimum needed in addition to the 250m spent to complete ‘the process’

Berg10kamp

Disappointing performance but as always, lessons learnt are important. The IB also caused some tired legs from some of our main players that have to be firing otherwise the whole team suffers. Have to bounce back against Brighton and go on another run of wins.

Why I Gunna

Well that was a shit show. Fire sale January leaving a paper thin squad, lack of squad rotation meaning players coming/subs are way out of nick, I mean what’s happened to Tavares since he’s arrived?

Graham62

The international break obviously affected our performance but why oh why doesn’t Arteta use Eddie far more.

By the way, PV4 knew exactly how to play that last night and when you look at that CP team and their physicality and pace, you’re left wandering just how far short we are.

Tavares is just not fit for purpose and his confidence is shot.

Brighton up next and you just know that even though they’ve hit a brick wall, it’s not going to be an easy game.

Mr Serge

Sid shows up after a defeat how typical of you

Sid

Diet Pep should keep winning and Sid wont show up, everyone will be happy, simple

Im telling you for free!

Mr Serge

Lol but why do you turn up when we lose ? Why not jut post win or lose ?

Sid

Let the excuses begin, KT is out, Partey is out,

Who would have guessed? We have pushed our luck. What will happen if we have mid week games?

Sid

I post about my longstuff when we win, my longstuff loves winning

Mr Serge

Sid our squad is way too small now to have midweek games when we do qualify for Europe or europa we will have to buy at least 4 players

Mr Serge

No to keeping Lakazette whatever happens

Foxy

With a weakened back four it would have made sense to start with 3CB Inc Holding. Did not Arteta and his team not realise how aggressively Palace would come at us. Wenger proved that pretty football does not always work in the league.

EdTheRed

Anyone thinking City would pick Arteta over Vieira to replace Guardiola lives in la la land.

Graham62

PV4 is head, shoulders, arms, hands, torso, hips, legs and feet a better manager than MA.

Anyone can see that.

Mulerise14

My thoughts too Tony as regards Gallagher…..top talent, may be wasted on the chavs though.
Well yesterday loss doesn’t change what is ahead of us.it was just a reminder that nothing can be taken for granted, non-appearance can’t take 3 points… that should be the worst half of football in last 10 years! Party was not in the party mood(hope he is okay).Laca was the meek goat*Ødegaard was suppressed, Saka still in the la la Land of COVID. None can be excuse really.
Martinelli brought energy and suddenly we were better…it was like others feed on his .

Leedsgunner

A bad day at the office doesn’t mean we have a bad team.

It’s the direction of travel that us important.

It’s a blip. If we win against Brighton and Southampton and grab something against Chelsea and United, the damage can be contained.

Perspective. Keep perspective.

Leedsgunner

*that is important

TitsMcGee

6 out of 8 g/a of Odegaard are against bottom 5 teams.“

The fascination on here for him is head scratching.

Samesong

Leeds your’e funny I’m sure you predicted us to win 3-0. Now your’e saying that word ‘if’ don’t sound too confident to me about the teams we need to play?

It’s not all doom and gloom I agree in that aspect however we should now think that injuries to team makes us even weaker and KT is a major loss at the back.

Mysticleaves

I will reserve my comments until season end and really really hope we get top 4. Cos it could take ages if we don’t get it this season. Arteta doesn’t fill me with confidence at all. But for Arsenal sake I hope the players pull through against Brighton and Soton. We still have spuds and Chelsea to play and we can nick draws there.

Dolomite

Yesterdays game highlighted why Arteta rates Xhaka. Despite his lack of pace and tackling ability, he stabilised a shaken team and created more goal chances than the overhyped Odegaard. Imagine if Xhaka had given away that penalty? However my main concern remains Lacazette. Having a “striker” that doesn’t actually score or create problems for opposition defenders literally means we’re playing a man down. Add getting caught offside unnecessarily when gaining momentum or trying the same stupid flick header TWICE and you know the reason why we MUST say thank you and goodbye at the end of the season. Gabriel is… Read more »

Leedsgunner

Samesong

I did, I was wrong. I’m saying “if” because I’m talking about the future… confidence has nothing to do with it.

If not “if” what word would you use?

TitsMcGee

Everyone is worried about top 4 like all we need to do is get in and out problems are over.

Rather get in than not get in? Sure.

Nothing changes other than slightly diff opponents on diff game nights.

Dolomite

Agreed Tits, although I guess people are looking at it from a financial point of view rather than a footballing one, our current level in Europe is actually Europa league knockout stages nowhere near Champions League hopefuls ….

Sid

@Bob N69, we need your positivity around here all the negativity is causing global warming, cosmic events…..

Mysticleaves

Tits

Seriously?

Sid

Malmo, sherrif, young boys, genk will shiver at the thought of facing Arsenal in the CL

TitsMcGee

TitsSeriously“

How many years in a row did Wenger get us to top 4 /UCL? We still kept hearing how we couldn’t attract XyZ player or couldn’t afford said player.

How many times did we win it?

At this point it seems more like pride than anything else.

Samesong

confidence has nothing to do with it.

Predicting us to beat Palace 3-0 at their home is not showing confidence in the team? When palace drew against City earlier in the season. Look not having a go, I just thought that prediction was way over ambitious.

Every game now to the end is like a cup final. We have to be have to get results.

Terraloon

The International break without doubt hurt several teams those teams had players retiring from points north , south , east and west absolutely shattered both physical and indeed mentally The Monday night game giving an extra two days to rest and plan compared to the likes of Chelsea but without doubt the Arsenal team I saw yesterday was shattered and now those injuries will expose the lack of depth in the squad It seems that Tierney will be out for weeks and Partey likewise is said to be out for weeks. Injuries were always going to happen the folly, because… Read more »

Matt

Yesterday was a classic Arsenal performance. When we lose, we lose badly.. Humiliating defeat, individually shocking performances and injuries leaving us exposed.

If KT is out for the season, that leaves either Tavares at left back or possibly Xhaka. Either way, it’s an area that every other team will be looking to exploit. I can envisage a sea of yellow and red cars from last ditch tackles trying to recover for those two.

Positive pete

F** k me.Didn’t take long for all the screamers” to start wetting the bed!We have had a tough run of away games lately.ALL of them were potential banana skins & we avoided them.Tonight after the interlull we slipped up.For palace it was a cup final.One of those bananana skins was likely to happen on the law of averages.Last night it did.It’s not the end of the world ffs.get a grip.killjoy & others leaping ,gleefully at the opportunity to slate Arteta.Well let’s see how we fare this weekend.The picture may look very different by the end of it.lets see.

Sid

Calm down, calm down, if Tavares isnt good enough for LB, Xhakalson is available. We can have midfield of Lokonga and Elneny.

Matt

For Palace it was a cup final – a team bang in mid table with no chance of relegation, no chance of Europe and a cup semi final coming up. A league game against Arsenal was a cup final??

OK

Samesong

Matt

If you are addressing me Palace beat City and drew with them. Let’s not do the mid table bs
How often have we beaten them in the last five years

Oh yeah the same team that nearly beat us at home this season. Palace went into that game like it was a cup final did we?

Samesong

Apologies Matt just read Positive Pee post

Rich

We’ve had a few setbacks this season, and reacted well. The injuries are a big blow, but it’s up to Arteta to find structural solutions, and it’s up to the players to react on the pitch. …………Ramsdale ……..White Gabriel Cedric Sambi Xhaka .Odegaard Smith Rowe ….Martinelli …..Saka …..……Lacazette The issues we face are, Tomiyasu hasn’t played since January, and Sambi doesn’t have much football in his legs, we don’t want to throw too many rusty players in at once. We could play Holding next to Gabriel, play White as an inverted right back, and moved Cedric to left back, the… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

It was a poor performance and result. No doubt about that. What is of greater concern are the growing number of injuries with absence of Tomiyasu, Tierney and probably Partey as well. Tierney’s absence was clearly a problem yesterday. Tavares last two appearances suggest that he is not good enough to play in EPL. Partey did not have a good game yesterday and his absence will impact on our midfield. However, I thought that Lokonga played very well when he played in latter stages of game and was influential in at least two attacks which could have resulted in two… Read more »

Leedsgunner

Samesong

I still have belief in the team. If there is a silver lining, better we got this bad performance out of the way so we can draw together, take a deep breath and take it one game at a time.

Qs: Where was Pepe last night? It was game made for him…
Qs: Is it time for Martinelli to start in the middle?

Arsnil

Same as same as. When we come up against a top three team or in the case of Crystal Palace last night just not at it. We are just not powerful enough. Our centre mid hasn’t got the power or legs and as for finishing. We re powder puff really. CP on the other hand are starting to become a team in the mould of their manager. I would love to see him as our manager here because rectifying the problems all over the team starts with the manager and I am afraid that Arteta is just not up to… Read more »

Positive pete

Get a grip girls.The pantyhose is slipping.Palace,regardless of their league position treated our visit as a ‘ cup final’ .As so many teams do historically.Like it or not,We’re still seen as one of the giants of English football,historically.So teams get fired up.Paddy I’m sure liked the opportunity to prove a point.We didn’t compete & if you don’t this is what happens. We avoided the other banana skins but it was inevitable one was going to catch us. Realistically were we going to win every single away fixture till the seasons end?were we going to go undefeated? I don’t know anyone… Read more »

Samesong

Leeds

https://www.arsenal.com/news/arteta-defeat-injuries-and-top-four

A.Pepe was ill
A.I don’t see why now.

I liked Rich changes to get some sort of stability back in the team but Partey and KT are big losses at a crucial stage of the season.

Samesong

Positive Pee

It’s more the injuries that are a cause for concern.

Positive pete

Rich.Interesting potential line ups.lets hope one of them works!If Tommy comes back & I understand it’s close.It will obviously allow a few more options of course.

Ishola70

See some are pointing fingers at Gabriel and I would agree. Never been convinced by him since he has arrived at the club. Looks the part and is physical but as another poster stated he looks emotionally and mentally fragile on the pitch a few too many times. Tavares was poor for both goals as was Gabriel as well for the second CP goal going to ground and out of position but it’s a case of yet again with Tavares of a full back not being able to defend very well which is commonplace in today’s football. He could have… Read more »

Positive pete

Sameoldsong.Agreed.

Ishola70

Regarding Tierney injury let’s not pretend that he was a defensive rock.

Of course he is a much more experienced fullback than Tavares but I’ve seen defensive horror shows from Tierney as well and this season.

And of course if he keeps getting injured all the time then it ultimately becomes a lost cause with him anyway.

Mysticleaves

Tavares should not be written off just yet. He’s still very young. And didn’t play much for Benfica’s first team you know. It’s a big leap to Arsenal and it’s demands. When he deputised for KT at first, he was electric to the point that he retained his place even when KT was fit.

I actually fault Arteta. He has stunted his development by not rotating him in well enough. Ditto el neny and Eddie. When they have to play for a sustained period they will still make mistakes cos they lack rhythm.

Thorough

Seriously though one of our problems imo is thcentral defence. I rewatched Arsenals 0 0 with Manu where Van Nistelrooy missed a penalty in injury time. By the end of the match he was visibly shaken. Keown, Vieira and Lauren were pushing, shoving and bullying him. A white or a Gabriel can’t intimidate Noone. That’s why I laugh at Arsenal fans turning their noses up at Saliba and Mavropanos. Those are bullies j. White even plays like a midfielder. If we let a Saliba go because we have White and Gabriel then we are fucking dim. And let’s stop lying… Read more »

Ishola70

Thorough “Seriously though one of our problems imo is thcentral defence. I rewatched Arsenals 0 0 with Manu where Van Nistelrooy missed a penalty in injury time. By the end of the match he was visibly shaken. Keown, Vieira and Lauren were pushing, shoving and bullying him. A white or a Gabriel can’t intimidate Noone.” We seem to have a very nice clean cut set-up at Arsenal now right through from the manager and players. No real what you would call real “characters” around and this seems to be a conscious decision. Odegaard typifies this as does Arteta himself. But… Read more »

Madhu

Progress starts with telling ourselves the truth. – This is a telling statement. Make no mistake most here support AFC and wants us to do well. But not doing critical analysis and questioning will take us nowhere. Squad depth was not addressed in Jan and it remains the Achilles heel.

Thorough

Ishola.
Every team need some bullies. Togetherness and being soft can only carry us so far. Palace have been doing this to us for a good few years. Probably the ‘weakest’ midfielder in the invisible Era was Parlour, but if he were here now hell be a stalwart. Xhaka and Partey posses the physicality but don’t know how to lay down the marker.
Get me a Sol in that defence.
Get me a Vieira-type in the midfield.
Let’s accompany our cuteness with some ruthlessness.

This is not WSL ffs.

Graham62

Positive Pete

Reality check my friend.

Criticism is a fact of life.

Suck it up!

Thorough

Madhu.
People saying if Arteta is okay with a player then we all should be actually grates. What’s Edu’s work actually? It’s believed Salah was forced on Klopp, Mourinho spoke about not knowing about some players till they were bought. Who the hell is helping this manager even if he has to go against some of his intentions.
Arteta will fill this team with choir boys if you leave all to him. This is where Edu should be earning his mega wages.

Graham62

If Arsenal were the CP team that played last night you’d all be purring and saying what a dynamic, athletic and physical team we’ve become.
I wonder why that is? PV4 have anything to do with that?
Let’s remember they bullied us at the Emirates earlier in the season and we were fortunate to get a point.

Graham62

CP drew 0-0 twice against MC.

Speaks volumes.

Ishola70

Thorough “Arteta will fill this team with choir boys if you leave all to him” Probably true and this was because Arteta himself was a “choir boy” player in his playing days and likes to get in players that reflect upon himself. But this team haven’t been doing too badly of late have they so along with the nice clean cut image there is a will to win to go along with it. It’s just a case of will it be good enough ultimately. We are entering the real serious part of the season now. Arteta has shown before that… Read more »

Positive pete

What’s relevant Graham & speaks volumes is that like it or not Arteta has us challenging for a top 4 position as & has almost 20 points more than paddy( as much as I love him) at palace.So I’d prefer our incarnation as to what I deem to be a success as opposed to purring over a dynamic,athletic,physical team.I mean ,even Burnley has its moments lol!

Samesong

Hi Ishola been awhile

I would say Gabriel got that new baby stress! But yes he can switch off quite alot at times.

Ishola70

Samesong

“Ishola been awhile”

Yeah not been watching much football lately Arsenal included.

But as we are entering the final stretch now will watch more games and comment.

Hope all is well with you and good to see that the Bees look safe now what with that walloping win at Stamford Bridge.

Rich

There’ll be time for an inquest at the end of the season. We shouldn’t lose our nerve now, there’s 27 points to play for, CL football is still within our own hands. Our job just got harder with the injuries, but success never comes easy. Arteta made some big calls, it’s now up to him to find internal solutions, get a tune out of the available players, and justify his decision making. The players also need to get a grip, I can begrudgingly accept that we’ll lose games, but some of those performances last night were diabolical, particularly Odegaard, Partey,… Read more »

InsideRight

Morning after the night before. Still don’t feel any less pissed off than last night. In January I complained that we had left the squad too thin and that injuries and suspensions could undo us. I wanted to see some loan signings to see us through the back end of the season, because we had a realistic chance of top 4 with all the extra money and player appeal that would have. I got a lot of stick for it. The arguments against me were (variously) that the plan was top 6 not top 4 and that we were bang… Read more »

Matt

Insideright

Well put. I genuinely think this season is our best chance at top 4 and if we don’t make it, it will be even harder next year. City and Liverpool are the top 2 spots, There is no way United will not improve as will Spurs. That’s already 5 teams vying for 4 spots before you even add Chelsea to the conversation.

EdTheRed

How long before Edu is blamed for Tavares?

Ishola70

Well all should remember that Spurs can still implode defensively at any time.

To offset that though unfortunately the penny has dropped now with Conte that Davison Sanchez is a bit shit and he has been dropped from the side now.

But still with that back three he likes they could still come across problems. Shame though that Davison Sanchez isn’t arouund now to aid Arsenal.

G

I’m confused. ’’ ‘ Yep, a typical AKB response, and thank you for reminding me of the young team part, but it suits the AKBs to point to that as an advantage for the future, but used as an excuse when AFC looses.’’
So Akb’s are Wenger supporter’s who support Arteta or is it Arteta knows best…. WTF

Madhu

Thorough I agree with you on Edu. Both Arteta and Edu are complicit in making the squad too thin. I repeat this is not a rookie mistake. Both Edu and Arteta played in PL to know that this league is tough and with a thin squad you are exposing yourself. Yet the criminal negligence of not addressing that. Say what you will a AMN would have given us options in midfield and Right back. These are the two places that we are going to be left thin. The striker situation is an embarrassment. The culture change in the team was… Read more »

The Bard

Losing always hurts but with a top 4 on the line we didn’t even show up. Looked to me like we were frightened. Not a good look for a side challenging.

Saladin

Well that was dreadful. Besides the result, I am glad Patrick is doing so well as a manager. Would be a nice fairy tale for him to take over at the Arsenal down the line but then again our ownership probably doesn’t even know that he used to play for us.

youdaman

Do we really think the likes Auba, AMN and the others that
have left would have made a difference last night.
It was the right decision long term getting rid of those guys.
Very difficult for Arteta to give game time to fringe players when we are only in
one competition. Will be different next season when we are back in Europe(hopefully in the CL)

Matt B

As much as I’ve been onboard with Arteta, I agree totally with Mysticleaves — there is no real justification in giving very little playing to the fringe players, especially when our squad is paper-thin

Tavares will have very little confidence left if he ever plays again this season and we need him. And what about Pepe?