FENERBAHÇE ASKS MESUT ÖZIL TO DO MORE FOOTBALL, ARE THEY WRONG?

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Hold on, hold on… you have got to be kidding me? Mesut Ozil, the man wronged by Unai Emery after a month. The man who threw a shirt at Freddie because the Swede WRONGED him. The man who was WRONGED again by Mikel ‘the beast’ Arteta. Is… being wronged again by his new club?

The Fenerbache President has had the absolute audacity to ask Mesut to basically ‘do more football thing’… excuse me sir? Who the hell are you to throw around instructions to a KING?

Here’s a little excerpt from Fenerbache TV:

“Ozil wants to play more. From now on, he needs to focus on his game and keep his commercial interests out of it. He needs to think about contributing to Fenerbahce.

“Our coach also needs to try to figure out how to get the most out of Ozil. There is not a problem, despite what the media says. Mesut is unhappy because he does not play regularly.”

Wooooah…

Steady on… public shaming?

Did anyone check if he was playing a big Fortnite tournament?

Maybe, just maybe, he’s trying to down a coach he doesn’t like… again.

Did anyone ask him if the bib throwing incident was a form of aggression or actually a nice piece of banter?

Has anyone asked if there’s a role he’d like to do more than the #10? He was very good at the social media when he was over here?

This actually feels like a conspiracy because he has nice coffee.

Or… did the Fenerbache Prez just say out aloud what no Arsenal coach would?

I’m not going to conclude on this, but Fenerbache fans, if you are reading this, do as Mesut does… #TrustTheProcess… we all support you and we support him. It’ll come good, one day, maybe.

Back to you. Are you ok? I know the news of Mesut losing his place must have been a shock.

Why don’t we get back to something I absolutely know you love me doing: splicing tables to tell a story.

The two tables below, via UnderStat.com, are where we are in 2021 after 11 games, and where we were last season after 11 games.

NOW (2021, bruh)

LAST SZN (2020)

That’s right, you can’t see us on the 2020 table because we were 15th in the league with 13 points.

Why am I showing you this? Well, there are a few things that are interesting here.

1. The table was bunched a little tighter last season. This season there are 10 points between 1st and 9th. Last season, there were 10 points between 1st and 14th.

2. The table after 11 games is not indicative of where it’ll be after a whole season. Remember all the people on the internet crowing that ‘This squad really could win Spurs the title under Jose’, well, he was gone in February. Remember people talking about Ralphy H for the Arsenal job. Frank Lampard was out by January. Manchester United were talking to Pochettino before they went on a charge to 2nd. Southampton dropped real hard. Take nothing for granted right now.

3. Arsenal are 7 points better off than they were this time last season. This is important because it means we’re in far better shape, but keep in mind, the job this year is to be within spitting distance of top 4 come January 2nd. The back half of the season is built for Arsenal. We will have played most of the major teams away from home. We won’t have the issue of Europe. Our young squad of players will be more experienced, know each other better, and should have adapted to the coaching ideas of Arteta. If Arsenal could have started like this last season, they’d have comfortably made the Champions League spots.

YES, I know you love an annualised table from Transfermarkt.

Why am I showing you this? Well, a few people have said to me ‘this form we are in is a fluke, so I was right to be Arteta Out hard this season.’ That is where I have to slap back with a spliced table. The form Arsenal is in is just a continuation of a slow drip of progression since December 26th last season. The calendar year table should give you a bit of comfort that maybe our run isn’t a flash in the pan.

Is 5th amazing? No. But it’s about where we should be. If we’re around that position in April, we might luck out into top 4. Remember, the average age of our squad is about 25, that’s the youngest. Chelsea 13th (27.7), Leicester (27.3), 11th Liverpool (27.8) 14th, West Ham 19th (28.8), City 10th (27.1). These teams have a lot more hours under the belt, so have a lot more to learn, so we have to be patient. 5th would be decent this season.

This table tells you two things:

1. The 6-month table since Christmas I talked about excessively to heavy mocking, was in fact, a pretty predictive table. The top 6 over the year are the top 6 currently in the Premier League.

2. Even with that hammering from Manchester City, we still have the 3rd best defence in the league joint with Liverpool. That really is some achievement. What we are witnessing at Arsenal certainly feels more George Graham than Arsene Wenger. We are tough to beat, we don’t let much get by us, and it has been a consistent theme.

What would be nice is a little more Arsene Wenger up the other end. We’re certainly doing much better than before, averaging 14 shots p/g. But that only puts us 7th in the league. There might be some mitigating circumstances there. We tend to lead early then sit back. We also had very poor output against City and Chelsea. Whatever… we need to sharpen up in the final third if we’re going to make top 4 this season.

So overal, whichever tables you are looking at right now, there’s a lot to be positive about.

We’re still good at the back, despite changing out an entire squad.

We still have a lot of work to do in the final 3rd where the goals are lacking.

All very exciting.

Right, see you in the comments.

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grooveydaddy

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Bankz

Bankz is here for the tr4phy again

grooveydaddy

It’s all me today, Bankz & DM

Bankz

Nice one groovey

Bankz

I started calling Özil a fraudulent signing since 2017.
Glad everyone is finally knowing what he became in the last couple of years

DM

Man it’s been nice to not have to think about Özil for a while

Bankz

DM.
I genuinely can’t understand how he got such a cult following at Arsenal.
For a man who did the barest minimum and only gave his all once in 10 games, it was pathetic to see the type of support he had amongst our fans.

Doublegooner

The Biggest fraud & waste of talent I’ve seen wear an Arsenal shirt in my 50+ yrs watching.

DM

“you can’t see us on the 2020 table because we were 15th in the league with 13 points.”…

“Arsenal are 13 points better off than they were this time last season”

The maths doesn’t add up, Pedro. If we were 13 points better off then we’d currently be level with Chelsea on points at the top of the table

DM

Bankz Totally agree, it drove me mad. I think people found it so hard not to think about the Özil that they all remembered from the world cup and then at Madrid, and just refused to accept that he was no longer that player. And when he did turn up – once every 10 games – it seemed to just strengthen their position that he was a god and clearly the problem was with everyone else rather than him. In a way it reminds me of Wenger. Everyone so focussed on the people they *were* rather than facing the reality… Read more »

Jamie

First half of today’s piece is Pedro unashamedly two-footing Pierre. Brutal takedown, but he got the ball so play on.

Kroenkephobe

Two comments

In retrospect, Ozil has been our worst ever signing…. and will likely remain so.

Your 2 table comparison Pedro. Err, Tets had been in the job 14 months by the time that 2020 table snapshot was in place.

Globalgunner

Pedro. That table from last season means nothing. Why because Tottenham were top and where are they now?. You can read anything you want from statistics. I can extrapolate for instance that if we are 6 points off top after 11/38 games. That projects we will be about 20 points off top place at the end of the season.

The only table that matters is the one at the end of the season, anything else is boundless optimism.

ollysomething

Pedro, you keep mentioning the second half of the season being a positive for us, but what about AFCON; there’s the potential for it to derail us a bit at the start of the year.

Rich

Pedro’s going to need heavy security after this hit piece on Ozil, the Ozilities are a mad crazy cult

Can’t wait to hear Pierre’s defence of his fallen hero…

naz

Ozil 2021-2021: 5 g/a
Odegaard 2021-2022 – 2 g/a

Even Odegaard can’t match a finished Ozil.

Sad

Bankz

In a way it reminds me of Wenger. Everyone so focussed on the people they *were* rather than facing the reality of the present. I totally agree DM. Wenger was past his best as far back as 2012, how it took everyone another 5yrs to see that was hilarious IMO. I really wanted Özil to succeed with us as he had all the talent to do so but somehow never seemed motivated enough game in, game out. I really hope ESR makes his cult of followers forget about him in no time. I’m rooting wholeheartedly for ESR, easily my favorite… Read more »

Duzie

Ozil?

Surprise sur-bloody-prise!

Even his crazy followers can’t help but identify this consistent pattern of having a fallout with every manager that comes his way.

Focus on football Ozil! Do political and commercial stuff inconspicuously!

Duzie

Bankz,

2012 is even being kind.

More like 2009. When the focus and identity of the team completely changed and went downhill afterwards.

Rich

We need 15 points from the next 8 league games, would also be nice to have a League Cup semi final to look forward to in January:

Liverpool (Away) 0 points
Newcastle (Home) 3 points
United (Away) 1 point
Everton (Away) 1 point
Southampton (Home) 3 points
West Ham (Home) 3 points
Leeds (Away) 1 point
Norwich (Away) 3 points

That would put us on 35 points at the halfway line

DivineSherlock

Rich

Nice calculation , but I think West Ham at home will be more difficult than Leeds away . Also Everton away is a winnable game , they are not playing well since Doucoure got injured.

Globalgunner

Hope we are not interested in Raheem Sterling. We dont need another expensive waster in a position we have already got good players. He can take his milquetoast arse somewhere else. No thanks.

Taylor Swift

I have never got the Ozul thing. His non-football income always seemed to take precedent. The fact that he wasn’t picked for away games when it was cold just about says it all. I can’t think of any other player who was more toxic

andy1886

I’d be disappointed if we don’t get three points at OT and put the final nail in Ole’s coffin. Never forgave the little sh*t for getting Campbell sent of back in the day at Highbury in 2003. Cost us the title that season IMO.

Bankz

Duzie

I was just being generous.
I knew Wenger was going downhill since 2010. Knew we’d only get worse under him.
Thanks for the couple of FA cup wins but that aside, we were getting further and further away from a major title with each passing season under him.
Glad he is retired and enjoying life now

Bankz

I genuinely think if we are being serious on the day, we could get the whole 3 points at Old trafford unless we set up to get a draw

andy1886

I see that Wenger says his biggest missed signing was CR7. I’d humbly suggest that far more important was missing out on Suarez and signing Ozil instead. Almost certainly cost us another title.

Rich

Divine Sherlock We need to win our home games, West Ham are the team that’s impressed me most outside Chelsea, City, Liverpool so far Leicester finished 5 points above us last season, and 3 places if we’d beaten them at home, we’d have finished 6th, they’d have finished 7th, and Spurs 8th These types of games are 6 pointers, Leicester, West Ham, Spurs, Everton, Villa, United If we take minimum 4 points off each of these teams, produce better consistency against the bottom teams, which our squad is better placed to do, and steal 5-9 fine margins points against the… Read more »

Bankz

Totally agree with Rich.
We really need to take maximum points off west ham at the Emirates.

Graham62

A big NO in respect to Raheem Sterling.

James wood.

I’m afraid GERMAN people as nice as some of them are
have a built in ARROGANCE .
So poor hard done by Ozil has an excuse.😂

James wood.

And that’s a NO from me ( Sterling).

Leftside

Agree with your points breakdown over the next stretch of games Rich

zimmie2652

As much as I want to say NO to Sterling, it is hard to overlook that he was in the form of his life with Mikel guiding him. Pep himself had even attributed Sterling’s growth to Mikel (take that w/ a grain of salt).

It might actually be worth a punt to get him in.

If his dip in form could be in correlation to Mikel leaving, the chance to rekindle that could pay off greatly.

Outside of that line of wishful thinking, I can’t really see a logical reason to bring him in though.

Emiratesstroller

Rich Arsenal need to maintain momentum. I agree that 15 points from next eight games should be the minimum number to maintain that progression. It doe not matter how we achieve it, because we have already seen this season just how unpredictable results have been. Arsenal’s season is more likely to be determined in 2022 when we lose three key members of our squad when Aubameyang, Partey and Pepe go to Africa Cup. I exclude Elneny because he is seldom playing in EPL games and will be leaving club in January. What will be interesting is whether Arsenal will choose… Read more »

gnarleygeorge9

The English cricketers will be a long, long way from home this Summer 🙂

Emiratesstroller

I think that Arsenal will need to focus on recruiting a goalscoring striker to replace Lacazette,
a replacement next season for Xhaka and a second string replacement for Leno before we start thinking about recruiting someone like Sterling who will cost mega bucks particularly in his
wage demands.

Ashwin Gunner

Well Lets stop with this Ozil thing. not our problem anymore. Lets not become like a jealours ex.

As for the table, the best thing about statistics is that we can twist it any which we we want. what matters is how we react on the pitch. next three matches are going to be very crucial to judge how far we have come. If we come out with a draw against Liverpool and win against Man Utd, we can say that we have progressed.

Positive pete

“ we’ve got merit ozil,just don’t think you understand,he’s Arsenal wengers man,he’s better than zidane”
Whoever dreamed up that little ditty should be banned for life from ever watching another Arsenal game at the Ems.
The biggest transfer mistake the club EVER made.Period.It’s not even a debate.Thought we’d never get rid of him.
We understand alright.

Positive pete

F** ng typos.Mesut,Arsene!

Positive pete

Ashwin,Aswan ashwin.Stop moving the goal posts mate.We’ve progressed.It’s plain to see from any metric.Of course the debate is whether it’s enough at this stage.

Guns of Hackney

All I see from those tables is we can’t score and we concede a shit lot of goals.

englandsbest

Ozil was one of Arsene Wenger’s worst mistakes. His egocentric reaction after being made to look foolish after his smart-ass bid for Suarez was answered with ‘what are they smoking down there’.

Bizarrely the current manager of Liverpool is showing Wengerite tendencies. Suddenly an expert on British politics – love the ‘we’ he uses, when did he become naturalized? Criticizing Boris for his haircut is most odd coming from a guy with his barnet. A guy who loses control of himself at almost every game. Yes, a Wenger in the making.

Bob N16

‘Criticising Boris’ says it all really.

Ashwin Gunner

Positive pete

:). Thanks for spelling my name thrice…

I am not changing the goal post. i am just saying that beating teams like Leicester, Watford and Crystal Palace should be BAU for Arsenal.. our aim should be to beat ManU;s and Liverpool’s.. Our yardstick should be Wenger era where we used to beat lower teams but shit bricks with Big 6. So if you are measuring progress measure it Big 6 which Wenger stunk.

Rich

Signing Sterling would make little sense, unless we planned to play him as a central striker

Saka on the right, and unless we can sell Pepe, then he’ll be the alternative
Smith Rowe + Martinelli on the left

I’m done with giant transfer fees, and wages north of £200,000 p/w

Sterling could work down the middle, but seems a bit similar to Aubameyang

Jaroda

For clarity.
We had 13 points after 11 last season
We have 20 points after 11 this season
7 points better off.
Maths cleared up.

Ashwin Gunner

Sterling is a waste of investment. he is injury prone and comes with a big bill. Will disrupt the dressing room.

Jaroda

Match 11 last season was in the middle of our dreadful pre-Chelsea game run.
We were still 15th after 14 games with 14 points. 12 points off 4th and 17 points off top.

Rich

Would be brilliant to have Ramsdale, Saka, Smith Rowe, all start for England tonight

When was the last time we had 3 starters for England?

If White keeps progressing, then he’ll also be in with a good shout of making the World Cup Squad

Hopefully the lads get 90 minutes tonight unscathed, then sit out San Marino on Monday

Asoa

Rich
When and if Saliba returns and the prejudices get reined in, White would move up as DM. That’s when he might move into the England team, because his attributes are perfect for that position

Rich

Not sure there’s any prejudices with Saliba, he’s a talented 20 year old centre half, who’s having a successful loan at Marseille, and as a result is now captaining the French under 21 team, and will be with an outside chance of going to Qatar for the World Cup Saliba will develop more playing consistently for Marseille, than he would have sat on our bench for 80% of the season, our mistake was not extending his contract before sending him out I could see White playing the inverted right back role, it’s where he predominantly played for Brighton last season… Read more »

Press Box Gooner

Rich

When was the last time we had 3 starters for England?

Possibly the World Cup qualifier v Italy in October 97. Seaman, Wright and Adams all started.

On the same topic when was the last time Arsenal had five English players in the starting line-up as they did against Watford on Sunday – Ramsdale, White, Maitland-Niles, ESR and Saka.

Guess it may have been when Wenger first took over – Seaman, Dixon, Bould, Adams, Winterburn ….

Asoa

Agree with you. Our signings have shown a marked improvement this year. Arsenal squad has gotten real balanced and good, full of fight ,which aspect has been missing last 15 years

Spudnik

Pedro, Ozil’s former team mate Karin Benzema is still playing Champions League football with Real Madrid and has a pocket full of champions league medals. He and Ozil are both 33. The 36 year old grand dad Luca Modric is also playing Champions League with Real with a pocket full of medals jangling away like small change. There’s a reason Real binned him to us for a reasonable fee 8 years ago. Perry Groves waxed about desire in players on the podcast and that is what Ozil severely lacks. Quick question for ya; who you prefer: peak assist Ozil or… Read more »

englandsbest

Man-management is the key-factor in coaching, tactics comes a distance off. I’d go as far to say that tactics is mostly a tool used in man-management. And man-management is about getting the players to believe in you. So, to put it bluntly, if the players believe in the manager, it hardly matters what tactics he employs. This explains why managers with players who believe in them were, are, and will be, successful with widely different tactics. And very often several of them at the same time. Like Arsene and Fergie. That make personnel the most important factor, and here we… Read more »

Rich

Press Box Gooner

We might have fielded Jenkinson, Walcott, Ox, Gibbs, Wilshere, together at some point

What I liked about our 6 signings this summer, is they all speak fluent English

You get some like Henry who picked up the language in a couple of months, but we’ve had a fair few who’ve never overcome the language barrier

It must be difficult enough move to a foreign country, but if you can’t communicate, things are likely to be a lot more difficult

Habesha Gooner

Ozil was an amazing player when he was focused. He didn’t show up every big game but other than that he played football like a Violin. But when he got that big fat contract that he didn’t deserve and was awarded because we were under pressure of losing two of our biggest superstars at the same time, he just retired. Mentally he was already done. By the end he was a cancer for Arsenal. And it is not surprising he didn’t come put of retirement at fener. About the calendar year form, we are doing better. I will admit that.… Read more »

Habesha Gooner

that made us*

Tom

Arteta’s gotten rid of all the bad eggs ( 11 or 21 , depending on one’s definition), signed enough players to have even his hardest backers proclaim “it’s his team now”, spent the most money out of all PL managers over the last two seasons ( a continuation from three previous seasons’ spending ranking Arsenal the top three spenders in the league over five seasons), has no European commitments to worry about………… but still Arsenal are only a top six contenders according to Pedro. Looks to me a low bar for a generational coach of a top spending club with… Read more »

LoveSausage

The thing about Ozil is that he’s a player without anything resembling a backbone. And that didn’t happen at Arsenal. His weak character has been a topic at every club he’s been at. His true talent seems to be that he’s always able to find enablers.

Interesting stats Pedro. Things are looking good for sure. We need to score more goals. Saka will hopefully get back into form soon but there’s only so much you can do without a reliable CF.

Taylor Swift

If we sign RS it will be a major disapppointment. I dont think we will. Josh made it crystal in his interview that we have a business model. Sign young hungry players RS would cost way too much, have wages way too much, upset the balance in the changing room, I just cant see it happening.

Also, he is 27, which means in two years tine, he will be 29 with two years left on his contract. (And that is the situation Partey will be in at the end of theseason).

Bob N16

No, not a hater, Tom, that’s just the typical nature of your posts.

Tom

Englandsbest, if Klopp isn’t qualified to voice his opinion on British politics, then what makes you qualified to keep posting about football tactics?

TeeCee

Wenger was a busted flush by 2008. In Feb 2009, I sat in my seat at the emirates watching a dire 0-0 against Fulham and I looked around the ground and thought ‘what the fuck am I wasting my life for here’? At the end of that season I didn’t renew my ST for the first time in 30 years and a while later sold my ´À bond as well. I vowed never to go to another Arsenal game whilst Wenger was in charge…..and I didn’t. I couldn’t stand the lying dictator in the end. Good riddance. (If Arteta gets… Read more »

englandsbest

Tom

Not a hater, just impatient

Tom

“No, not a hater, Tom, that’s just the typical nature of your posts.“
You mean like factual information gets in a way of one’s expectations?

Bob N16

Tom, no typically verging on the buzz kill.

Graham62

TeeCee

Couldn’t agree more.

Tonga

Ozil was reasonably successful the first few years he was at Arsenal, especially after Alexis arrived. He had his defensive limitations and was prone to disappearing for away trips after January, but did create lots of chances. I think it was the season Leicester won the league when he had 19 assists….he created chance after chance every game, should have had 30+ assists if we had Auba then…but Giroud took a 6month break from scoring. He did enough to win us the league that season. But after that, the way he just gave up on football was shocking. Liability on… Read more »

englandsbest

Tom

That’s the point, mate, I DON’T keeping posting about football tactics. Take another read. It’s about man-management and personnel.

As for Klopp, his comments on Boris are ill-advised, he is a visitor, not a native. And they betray an egocentricity reminiscent of Wenger. And his lack of self-control suggests his players have lost their belief in him. Which in my reckoning means he won’t be around much longer.

Tom

EB, what’s your expertise on man- management then?

What’s your evidence Klopp’s players are losing faith in him in your expert man- management opinion ?

Leedsgunner

Yes the trend is encouraging but the only table that really matters is the one at the end of the season.

If we stay focused and disciplined and largely injury free (especially to our defence) no reason why we can’t make it into the Europa League. If our attackers start scoring and our defenders remain solid, top 4 is attainable.

Graham62

Mesut Ozil was an exceptionally gifted footballer who, quite clearly, fell out of love with the game a long time ago.
Fenerbahce made a very silly mistake taking him off our hands, although I was delighted that they did, especially as he had nothing to offer either them, or anyone else for that matter.
Yes, he could sometimes show some sublime skills, when it suited him but what we got after he arrived from RM was a player already on the wane.
One of the best days in Arsenal’s recent history when he left the club.

englandsbest

Tom

You are pouting

Welsh Corgi Cardigan

So nice to be rid of Ozil and that ongoing saga. The man had it all and could have been a legend. Instead he turned out to be a wanker and good fucking riddance.

I wouldn´t be surprised at all if he in 5-7 years goes on talkshow and expreses his regrets, focus, not reaching his maximum, mental tiredness etc, and now have matured.

What a sad story and a really good experience of the kind of person you dont want around your squad.

TT

err Liverpool players have lost their belief in Klopp….what am I missing here?

andy1886

TeeCee/Graham, Yup, there were plenty of us begging Wenger in January 2008 to dip into the market and buy a top class player (or two) to help get us over the line. This was when our record spend was Reyes/Wiltord (depends if you include the bonus payments in the Reyes deal) at less than £20m and we had the best part of £100m in the bank. Sadly Wenger went down the skinflint ‘I trust the players I have’ route and the wheels came off after the window closed. A top experienced player could have steadied the ship and see us… Read more »

Shaun

Pierre is gonna have a seizure when he see’s this shit , you guys are cruel

Jamie

Tom’s backed EB into a corner.

IAT-Robbie

An increase from 12.1 shots per game last season to 14+ this season seems largely due to better set pieces and more shooting outside the box. Compared to last season we are averaging each game: +1.2 shots from outside the 18 yard box +1.3 shots from set pieces +0.5 shots from inside the 6 yard box -0.88 shots from inside the 18 yard box That makes a net gain of +2.12 shots per game compared to last season. Our respective rank in these shooting metrics: No. of shots outside the 18 yard box – 3rd No. of shots from set… Read more »

Tom

EB, obviously your definition of a visitor is vastly different rom mine.
If I’m not mistaken 45% of Klopp’s 18million per year salary goes to British taxman.
For 8mil per year he can say whatever the hell he wants.

Graham62

Klopp has as much right as anyone to pass comment on Boris.
Name me one player at Liverpool who has lost faith in him.
Ridiculous!

andy1886

By the way, politicians should always be criticised. They absolutely have to be held to account, I have no problem with anyone of any nationality voicing an opinion on Boris just the same as British people have/had opinions on Trump, Putin, Merkel, or anyone else.

Bob N16

Any chance we can refer to the PM as Johnson?

Rich

What do Liverpool do with Salah? 30 years old next summer and will have just 12 months left on his deal He looks like a player who looks after himself, and has plenty of hunger for the game, but as we’ve seen ourselves that when players dip physically, they tend to fall off the edge of a cliff Giving a 30 year old a 4 year contract is risky Particularly when Firmino will be 31 next season, and into the last 12 months of his deal Mane will be 30 in April, and into the last 12 months of his… Read more »

Tom

Andy, absolutely spot on.
People have a problem with foreigners voicing their opinions on another country’s domestic politics only when they haven’t been complementary.
Otherwise they welcome them with open arms.

I get pushback from my some of my Polish buddies for calling out their bs position re Poland taking all that EU money( 120 billion and counting) but none of the refugees.

They are very quick to remind me I haven’t lived there for over 25 years lol.

Ernest Reed

“I wouldn´t be surprised at all if he in 5-7 years goes on talkshow and expreses his regrets, focus, not reaching his maximum, mental tiredness etc, and now have matured.”

No he wont, Ozil will play the misunderstood card for the rest of his life. I will always state that no matter what happens with Arteta he will always have my respect for ridding the club of that lazy sod Ozil. It was then and still remains now the absolute right thing to do. The fact that Fenerbahce is also experiencing the same regrets – thats not a coincidence!

Tom

Liverpool are definitely heading for a bit of a nose dive but not because Klopp is past it ( that’s clearly nonsense), or players losing faith in him.
They haven’t invested in their squad enough lately and that will catch up with them.
Last three seasons Klopp’s net spend has been under £40m and he keeps them amongst favorites for the PL and CL ……… that’s fucking insane.

Klopp might leave soon but it will be because of a burn out on his part more that anything else.

Bob N16

KT started brightly for Scotland.

andy1886

Tom, I expect that EB will be true to his principles and refrain from any comment on the EU for example…

Funnily enough there were plenty of (non-Gooners) wading into Wenger when he first arrived and had opinions on the English game and the English lifestyle in general. Klopp is a shrinking violet in comparison.

Kroenkephobe

EB Not sure where you’re posting from but I doubt that it’s in the Socialist demi-Republic of Liverpool where the city is as politically red as their kits. Who’s your local MP? It’ll help to frame your political mindset. Most Everton fans are also reds in that regard. The city is still smarting too from Thatcher’s erroneous rush to blame fans for Hillsborough. No one – but no one – reads the Sun there because of the pernicious lies they spread about the tragedy. Thatchers bullshit had all been proven to be absolute shite hasn’t it. Bojo – like Tony… Read more »

Jamie

I’m worried about Pierre.

What he read today must’ve been devastating. He’s devastated right now.

curse

The fly returns, sad times. I’ve had time to reflect on mez, it’s true he wasn’t surrounded with enough quality but his character has always been in question. Time always tells, so what a relief, he’s not our problem anymore, happy days. I’ve been diet Graham from the jump so the table isn’t a surprise. What is a surprise is the amount of hell no’s I’m seeing for Sterling, Jesus, Mary and Joseph! For real my Don? the guy who literally carried England to the euro final? After all the negativity around him pre tournament? How quickly they forget. Dam… Read more »

IAT-Robbie

Tom,
I don’t think that makes you a hater at all.In the corporate world (of which Arsenal FC is part of)… I don’t know of many jobs where you can be granted senior management powers but still have the culpability of an entry-level employee.

The most shocking thing for me has been the constant lowering of expectations by the board, which seems to have trickled down to the fanbase. The original “project” milestones no longer matter and the bar of expectations just keeps getting lower. Is this Premier League football in England or a Limbo contest in Trinidad?

Terraloon

Rich “All the top teams have a good mix of youth + experience, but Liverpool over the next 12-24 months look like they could be slanting too far with a team that’s about to crash together” I think this very much is the case at Arsenal, Chelsea and to a lesser degree City and Utd but as you point out the Liverpool squad is valid indeed come the start of next season unless any leave they will have 9 over the age of 30. What really is a concern is that at Arsenal the two players who are responsible over… Read more »