EXCLUSIVE: ARSENAL FAN SENTIMENT HITS MAJOR NEW LOW

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A dramatic headline for dramatic times my friends.

Today, we’re announcing our partnership with YouGov and their fancy new ‘Chat’ service. YouGov is all about consumer research. If you work in advertising, your media team has used them to tell you what type of biscuits northerners like. If you’ve seen a poll for the elections, it’s usually them. They are the best in the business, so I’m happy to have them on the site. The tool they’ve given us is called Chat. It’s a little button in the bottom corner of the site. Click it and then follow along. It’ll ask you to answer some very specific questions related to Arsenal. Your reward? It’ll tell you what fans are thinking across those topics instantly. The hope is that we can get a more accurate view of what Arsenal fans are thinking, and it’ll give me some extra content to work with.

My main point of excitement here is tracking fan sentiment around the club in real-time.

We have a little bit of exclusive fresh data (sample 461) to share with you today based around Arsenal, and it might ladder back to why we’re seeing more gaps in the stadium, and why people 27,000th on the waiting list are being offered season tickets after just 3 years of waiting list time.

Before the start of the season,YouGov ran a survey and asked ‘How confident are you in the football team.’ They found that Arsenal fans were confident but hardly bullish. Only 10% of fans felt very confident, 44% felt somewhat confident. ‘Not very confident‘ sat at 36% and ‘Not at all confident‘ was 8%.

Quite staggering that Arsenal fans could feel so low despite unleashing so much cash this summer.

Fast forward 3 games of pain…

Things have taken a dramatic shift for the worse. After only 3 games 33% of our fans are fully ‘Not at all confident‘ about the team (Only 8% registered here before the start of the season). 37% of fans are ‘Not very confident.’

Team positive only makes up 29% of the fanbase as of this week. Where are my people?!

Confidence in the manager has also cratered over the 3 Premier League games. 60% of the fanbase is Not Very Confident or Not at All Confident in the manager. At the start of the season, amazingly, 66% of the fanbase registered Very Confident or Somewhat confident. This is a dramatic decline and shows you how much danger Arteta is in with the fans as we head into a group of fixtures that lead us to a massive derby game against Spurs one game before the international break. No doubt the club will be keeping an eye on this one, and if results are poor, there won’t be much protection for Arteta from the numbers.

Things don’t get much better for Arsenal when fans are asked where they think the club will finish come the end of the season. Now this question is very much wrapped in the emotion of the moment, losing 3 games doesn’t help with clarity, and no fan will listen to the word ‘context’ when they are being lampooned by their mates in the group chat for supporting a relegation fodder side. However, it’s notable that 0% of fans thought we’d finish near the bottom of the table at the start of the season, now 23% do! At the start of the season, a whopping 33% of us thought we’d finish top 4, after 3 games, that’s down to 13%. A massive 60% of us think the club will finish midtable… that’s after spending the largest amount of cash in the league this summer.

So in short, after two surveys, Arsenal fans are in the absolute gutter. We don’t rate the team, we don’t rate the manager, and most of us think Arsenal are heading for another season of midtable mediocrity.

Is that important? Yes. It’s important. That sort of sentiment stops fans from going to games that are midweek. It lessens the appetite for away day season tickets. It starts to break the habit of attending and supporting through thick and thin. This is dangerous territory for KSE because the fans are at the apathy stage with Arsenal before the winter weather has arrived. That spells difficult times for Arteta and it likely means there’s going to be more turbulence at the club if he doesn’t get his act together. We all know it was the empty stadiums that terminated Wenger and Emery. Mikel needs to shape up, get the team playing some sexy football, and he needs to put some results on the board.

I also think the club needs to do a far, far better job of communicating the vision for the future. Where is the football going? Why should I believe in this new project? When do we exit the transition? What is going to stop the next manager arriving and ripping up this plan? Wenger was the master at selling tomorrow, the current crop can’t sell out a home game against the European Cup Finalists.

What a mess we’re in. Let’s hope we can see a solid reaction this weekend. Arteta needs a result and so do the fans.

So, that’s the first of the data runs. Let me know what you think in the comments. I’ll have more time to spend with the next round of data, so I’ll make the charts fancier and do a deeper analysis of the numbers. Also, have a play with the chat feature and answer the questions!

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WengerEagle

redbro14

Agree, Sasha will be a stern test for Djokovic. He has had a great year and spanked him for large parts in Tokyo which was a huge mental hurdle for him to overcome as he was 0-5 in his last 5 H2H before that vs Djokovic.

I fancy Sasha much more than Medvedev to beat him, think if he is dialled in that he has more weapons to beat him. If Djokovic gets to the Final vs Med the trophy is as good as his as far as I am concerned.

TR7

WE

By semi-retired I meant he had to pick which tournaments to play and which ones to skip. I mean physically he hasn’t been in great shape. He lost many matches in QF/SF simply he couldn’t cover enough ground against younger and physically robust opponents. I am sure you would have noticed he avoided getting in to long rallies and played aggressive shots to close the points early simply because his body wouldn’t allow him to resulting in unforced errors.

WengerEagle

Anyway, Norwich on Saturday.

Part of me wants us to blow it just to make life for Tets untenable here, short term pain for long term gain outlook that seems to digust the myopic and self proclaimed ‘superfans’.

Fail to beat Norwich and Burnley and get beaten in the NLD and he is finished. If we shitcan him then and actually get a competent gaffer in then the season could still be salvageable after 6-7 odd games.

WengerEagle

TR7

Yes mate, good spot that.

That was the main reason he began to find success vs Rafa, by shortening the points and adopting an aggressive serve and volley style along with a much improved backhand which Rafa used to mercilessly expose and used as his bread and butter to dominate the H2Hs.

TR7

I think Arteta has Norwich, Burnley and Spurs games to save his ass. If we lose two or more out of the three, he is definitely gone. If we get 4 points then Arteta may just about live to fight for another day.

redbro14

WE…..I was very surprised by that win in Japan as I thought Novak has reached a zenit of a kind and looked in a different plane than anyone else….Dethroned Rafa at RG and stormed Wimbledon. So Zverev has that all important win to build on. Lots of pressure on Novak to make history. That will play a major part. Will he be able to handle it mentally even though we know he is very good at this.

‘In the top 8 tiers of English football, that’s 19 leagues and 397 clubs- only 2 teams have failed to register a point or a goal ( that’s Arsenal and guernsey Fc ), guernsey haven’t played as their season is delayed until October due to Covid.’

But yes , let’s be patient and give Arteta more time because he’s done amazingly well so far. Banter club we really are

WengerEagle

How do you rate the next gen TR7?

I think that this Aliassime kid along with Shapovalov look very interesting. Alcaraz at 18 looks a hell of a prospect.

Not mad on the man-child next gen group of Tsitsipas, Sasha and Medvedev. All talented but suspect mentalities. Do not rate Thiem all that highly either although he is 28 so not exactly nextgen.

WengerEagle

Anything less than 4 points from Norwich-Burnley followed by an Emirates defeat to the Spuds will be a KO blow imo.

Would mean no wins out of three or losing to one of Norwich/Burnley so by the time Spuds beat us, fans will not hold back anymore in hounding him out.

Tom

I think we beat Norwich even in a second gear…..having watched them this season they are nail on relegation favorites.
Burnley will score against us so we’ll need two or more to get three points there.
They’ll press us high and will get away with all kinds of shit with the new rules interpretation.
Tarkowski shoved Maupay into another zip code and refs thought nothing of it after reviewing the play five times, so we know what’s coming.

WengerEagle

Burnley are always capable of a shithouse result Tom agree.

Norwich on paper is the gimme but you never know with our morale on the floor. Norwich will attack the game with nothing to lose as there will be no expectations on them to get anything.

Pukki and Raschica both have a goal in them.

WengerEagle

redbro14 Tokyo was the only time I have ever really seen Djokovic mentally implode and spectacularly go off the boil mid-match. He blitzed the 1st set 6-1 and was up a break in the 2nd before going on to lose 10 of the next 11 games. A complete capitulation as well as Zverev did play. I guess the pressure may finally be getting to him a little as he is entering objective undisputed GOAT territory which has been Fed and Rafa his whole career pretty much up until this year when he caught up in Slams. Going to be a… Read more »

Carlos

It’s sad in a way that it is an independent blogger rather than than the club itself which is sending out these surveys. The entitlement and complacency at the top is staggering. Once fans drop out of the routine of attending and find that there’s a lot more disposable cash in their pockets, they may not be in a rush to return. Not all fans are fanatics

redbro14

WE …. agree completely and it was a bit of a surprise. It will be fascinating to watch. I think Novak will be rather ruthless in this one. I am a fan of his so a bit biased….

Bertie Mee

Pedro
Great idea but using Le Grove as a bellwether is fraught with problems.
You have some of the most negative, depressing Arsenal ‘ fans’ in the Goonerverse on here .
If you’d polled them in the Invincible season they’d have moaned about not winning the Champions League .
Many people on here want Arsenal to fail to justify their negative view . Whatever they might claim

redbro14

Bertie I agree that the mood is dark, but listen, this club has been duping fans for too long. All buckshot and Emperors new clothes. We have reached a new low even by our own crap standards. It’s been going for too long, people have had enough.

redbro14

bullshit….

TR7

WE I don’t rate Zverev and Thiem. Thiem is a poor man’s Andy Murray and Zverev for all the hype is yet to win a GS. If you are 24 and still can’t beat a 34 year old Djoker in a grand slam then most definitely you are not a generational player. Fed beat Sampras in Wimbledon QF to announce himself to the world. Rafa won the title in his first appearance at Roland Garros. If Sasha really is a player then he’s got to beat Djoker in this Aus Open and win the slam. If he has to wait… Read more »

TR7

Arteta: “We are trying to build a medium to long-term project, which needs immediate results. That only happens in elite sport & most importantly in football. We have to embrace that challenge. It is what it is”

Poor Arteta being forced to deliver “immediate” results. It’s only been 20 months, he must get at least 20 quarters. Very cruel world of elite football, no sympathy and little patience.

Dissenter

Who trusts a toddler manager with a medium to long term project?
He should have gone to learn his trade at a smaller club

Receding Hairline

“I think we beat Norwich even in a second gear…..having watched them this season they are nail on relegation favorites.”

Don’t quite understand why the Norwich coach is so highly rated, such an easy team to dismantle at the top level. Yes they play some pretty football but they are so open at the back it’s unbelievable.

Receding Hairline

“We are trying to build a medium to long-term project, which needs immediate results. That only happens in elite sport & most importantly in football. We have to embrace that challenge. It is what it is”

Literally what every other competitive football team tries to do, get better progressively and win football matches while doing so. Arteta wants to claim you can’t do both at once.

I don’t know what anyone sees in him, such a boring fellow.

Rich

Prediction: 1. Chelsea 2. City 3. Liverpool 4. United 5. Arsenal 6. Leicester 7. Spurs * 69-74 points, spitting distance of 4th (I picked 60-65 last season) * December will be a good month overall, and our last 11 games will be fruitful * Fans will likely lose their minds again at the end of Nov, with lunatic overreactions after away trips to Anfield + Old Trafford, grounds we rarely get much luck from * Tomiyasu will end up central, and White will move to the right, providing Arteta isn’t too stubborn to admit his mistake * If we keep… Read more »

Receding Hairline

“if we lose Saka though, then I’ll overtake the lot of you in the hysterical temper tantrum stakes…..”

So pretty much everything you wrote up there is based on Saka having a great season and *once we find a settled 11″….when and where did we lose this settled 11

Samesong

I don’t see Chelsea winning the league although they have a strong squad. I’ll always favour city and Liverpool over them.

Dennis+the+Menace

Thanks for the survey Pedro. Great idea. Let’s use fan power to bring about a change for the better. The rigging at the club needs shaking from top to bottom before mediocrity seeps into the Hale End set up too.

BacaryisGod

TR7 and WengerEagle

Liked your tennis conversation and while I can’t stand Djokovic, if he wins for the Slam, the conversation for GOAT is almost certainly over.

One question though. If we assume that Rafa, Federer and Djokovic are all in the all-time Top 5, can an argument be made for Andy Murray being in the Top 10? After all, he reached #1 in the world and held it fit 9 months while all three were active (the only player to do that since Federer took #1 in February 2004.

Mr Serge

Tomyasu is available for Saturday now
On a side note those new black chat bubble is annoyingly placed if you press it instead of post it deletes everything

Tonga

Murray or Wawrinka? Tough one for me. Murray better overall but Stan did better against the Big 3 in slams I thought.

Rich

Receding hairline * I meant if we sell Saka, next summer he’ll be down to his last 2 years, he’s now at an age and level of experience, where the goals + assists will come with some regularity, and the sharks will be circling if we don’t tie him down To educate him, only to lose him as he starts producing the end product numbers to match his performances, would be heartbreaking Saka is generational, I debated with those having a Sancho wankfest last season, that Saka was the superior talent, I still stand by that Regarding a settled team,… Read more »

Ray+in+LA

Rich

“Cheer up guys, if we do shit, Arteta will get the boot, and you’ll all be happy, if Arteta turns it around, then Arsenal will be winning football games, and that’ll make you happy…..”

Sadly, I think there is a third — and probably more likely — possibility

Arteta will do well-enough not to be sacked but not well-enough to make anybody happy

Nelson

Next week will be really difficult for Arsenal supporters watching other fans enjoying Champions League and Europa League football. And we were told that we should be excited. WTF!

TR7

BIG

Fed, Rafa, Djoker, Sampras, Laver and Borg are undoubtedly the top six players of all time.

McEnroe, Connors, Agassi and Lendl fill up the remaining 4 positions I reckon.

Mr Serge

Tr7 that’s exactly the top 10 of all time on many sites if you Google it

Useroz

Media quotes Le Tissier,, as a pundit, saying he got information from within the club that Arsenal’s poor result has nothing to do with Arteta the manager and has been caused by problems in the dressing room.

Is he insinuating some players trying the same old down tool routine and disrupt the team and Arteta had to call upon Kolac?

Did some players ignore Arteta’s brilliant tactics so he had to yell from the sideline throughout the match?

Is that why we haven’t managed to scored any however let in so many?

I don’t know about that! Do you?

bacaryisgod

Tonga

It’s worth a discussion but I think Murray is comfortably above Wawrinka. He has a much better overall record (29-56) against the Big 3 than Wawrinka (12-59) and a better head-to-head vs. Wawrinka (12-9).

He’s won 2 Olympics singles golds and lead the British team to Davis Cup victory. Wawrinka had Federer as his teammate when he won.

Murray reached #1 in the world and Wawrinka only #3. They both have 3 Grand Slam singles wins
.

bacaryisgod

TR7 The question that no-one can answer is how well Agassi, Lendl, Connors and McEnroe would do against the Big 3. I’m guessing they would all struggle mightily even if you account for technological and fitness advances. When Murray stepped on court vs. the Big 3, he won a little more than once out of every three matches. Not bad when you consider these are 3 of the top 6 all-time and quite possibly the top 3. For this reason, a good argument could be made that Murray was just incredibly unlucky to be playing in the same era as… Read more »

Sly

Congrats on the 14th year of LG Pedro
On another note looks like quite a few Arsenal players are not vaccinated
“Almost” as a rule of thumb
Any players coming down with Covid illnesses have not been vaccinated
Remarkably dumb

MD-Gunner

@Rich
Thank you for having mercy on the MOBs by not dropping anymore BS comments or delusional predictions of Arsenal finishing 5th within spitting distance of 4th.

Dare you to show up after the BHA game Oct 2nd, sorry you said end of the season, my bad.

China1

When your entire ability to work depends on your body being physically in tip top shape, having phenomenal stamina and mental sharpness for quick reactions and decision making, why bother to get vaccinated? It’s not like covid carries any risk of impacting any of those areas and there’s certainly no risk of them being impacted long term.

On the other hand if they got vaccinated they might get a sore arm or worse feel bad for about a day.

Easy choice! ANTIVAXXXX

China1

I have my second jab today. Great excuse to take 2 hours off this morning without needing to mark it as leave in the system!

But I guess footballers can’t make that excuse since they only work a few hours a day anyway…

China1

‘Sources in the club say Arsenals poor form has nothing to do with arteta’

😂😂😂😂😂

Was the source by anti chance a man with rock solid, jet black hair, stubble and piercing eyes wearing a trench coat and fake moist ache to conceal his identity? 😂😂😂

In what universe can constant poor performances be ‘nothing to do with the manager’? If there is some kind of mutiny at the club who is the person responsible for managing them and that mutiny? Oh that would be our manager!

Goobergooner

All that tells me is that there is some special people out there who thought tets would take us to the top 4 this season

Goobergooner

Lol China.
The players can only take so much of the blame for so long while Arteta is stinking the place out

Gonsterous

If the players have really down tooled, we will know against Norwich. If the game ends in a 0-0 (norwich can’t score a goal to save their life atm), then I’m guessing the players want mikel out. If we end up losing saka or esr because of arteta, I’m going to be so pissed off. More pissed off than the time Wenger failed to bring cesc back. Having cesc back would have helped ozil up his game as he wouldn’t have been the only creater and it would have made the team a lot stronger. Instead I’m glad he won… Read more »

Tony

Morning/evening Grovers Click bait alert David Seaman has said that players are not turning up but doesn’t address why they are not playing well for Arteta. Seaman a great keeper and legend wasn’t blessed with a high IQ like many players. Seaman said he wanted to be an actor after football when Vinny Jones was playing himself in all his movies. I guess the short pony tailed keeper thought that look would help him get past his northern monotonous monotoned voice. Rain Man any one? Just kidding! I loved Seaman the keeper, but after he hurt his ribs, he always… Read more »

Tony

our girl Emma is 4 games to love, first set.

Tony

sorry 5 games to love

Tony

Emma brushed Sakkari away in 2 sets to make the final. First player ever to go from qualifiers to final.

We have some one special blossoming.

Should make for a brilliant final.

fell

I can’t think of anything worse you could have added to this site than a YouGov poll, Nothing sums up polling better than this Yes Minister sketch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA

Sid

“”””””If you’d polled them in the Invincible season they’d have moaned about not winning the Champions League””””””

You are out of line, you should Not be let to get away with it because of your seniority .

Almuniasaynomore

The Emirates,late at night. Two cloaked figures stroll briskly down a deserted corridor devoid of any light. One man is dark,tanned,swarthy. The other,fair skinned, exceptionally tall. They speak in whispers, their eyes constantly scanning their surroundings, revealing the deep unease they were both experiencing. The crunching of broken glass underfoot is at odds with their attempts at stealth. Edu: For fucks sake Per, did you have to break all the lightbulbs? We could have just left the switches off. PM: (rubbing his head gingerly) It wasn’t exactly a deliberate strategy! I was just checking the coast was clear. (Suddenly a… Read more »

Kroenkephobe

Almunia Hiya, mate. I liked the sexual overtones at the start. You could have had chihuahua head also fumbling at his zip a la pumacoatgate all those terrible years ago. I expect it’ll cause Sid a few trouser arousal a over breakfast. I think I agree with what weagle said last night about how a loss tomorrow will settle Tets’s hash. This entire reign of bullshit needs to end so I can start enjoying it again. I’ll even knit England’sbest a black armband if he’s gone by Sunday. He’s the worst manager by far in my living memory and Ozil… Read more »

Samesong

That first part was funny Almunia.

Wengaball

@Kroenkephobe – this one is especially for you. I have picked this up from somewhere on social media so can’t vouch for accuracy. The earlier snippet about baby and bath water is part of this longer etymology piece. 👇👇.. There is an old Hotel/Pub in Marble Arch, London , which used to have gallows adjacent to it. Prisoners were taken to the gallows (after a fair trial of course) to be hung. The horse-drawn dray, carting the prisoner, was accompanied by an armed guard, who would stop the dray outside the pub and ask the prisoner if he would like… Read more »

Samesong

Wengaball Quality mate!

Karsa

Great stuff Wengaball. History is fascinating.

Gooner Grant

Please stop trying to flog us the dead horse that is Arteta, the guy is finished at Arsenal. As we’ll all see 9ver the next run of games, our so called best 11 will not make a blind bit of difference. Anyone with a understanding of football can see Arteta is way out of his depth, and looks increasingly lost and desperate with each passing week. Loose the next 3 games he needs to go, already seems as if this season is over before it’s really started.

Almuniasaynomore

Kroenkephobe
Well man,how’s tricks? I was looking at the Norwich squad last night, hard to see how Arsenal don’t win. They are really poor with a 2/3 exceptions,Cantwell, Aarons,Puki. They play an expansive game which will suit Arsenal who need help opening up teams. I see a stay of execution this weekend. Interesting to see if Arteta sends them out to play or to win ugly. If the latter is the tactic at home to Norwich then he should go regardless of the result. Enjoy!

Almuniasaynomore

Wengaball,
I really enjoyed reading that, thank you. The part in the graveyard, those scratches on the coffin, I’ll never be able to erase that from my hard drive! Fascinating.

@Almunia

🤣🤣🤣 brilliant as always

@Wengaball

Love history and found your post really interesting.

TitsMcgee

lol at 5th

Arsenal won’t get relegated but will def not finish any higher than they did last season. 8th-10th for me.

Sid

Anything sexual on le grove and Sid comes up (no pun), y’all so inappropriate.

Danny

Wengaball
—–
Thanks mate!
Always fun asking people who use these expressions if they know the origins e.g. wrong end of the stick…….

Wengaball

Samesong, Karsa, TYAG, Danny, Almunia – glad you all enjoyed it :).

And I thought only Kroenkephobe shared a love of etymology. The LG gang is fascinatingly diverse it ones interest and that’s what makes this blog such a great place.

Almunia – out of interest, would you mind explaining the idea behind your own moniker? And please keep those sketches going – really enjoy each one of them.

CG

Great to see A. Wenger back in the thick of it , and grabbing the ‘ hot potato’ of the international soccer calendar and trying to get more high profile games for all concerned.

More money going to the smaller nations, rather than the billionaires and oligarchs has to be a good thing.

I hope he succeeds.

Tony

Anyone interested in Japanese 15th century Samurai history will probably enjoy this series I’ve watched:

https://www.netflix.com/th-en/title/80237990

Samesong

Tony

I watched some of that really interesting.

Foxy

origins of language are fascinating. e.g. Australian slang is much derived from Cockney slang, Geordie is apparently close in parts to old English and in Yorkshire a lot of words are of Danish origin.

Kroenkephobe

Wengaball Cheers man, some real beauties there that I’d wondered about. Thanks for sharing them. The two I mentioned yesterday I think originate as follows. Knowing your onions comes from Holland where in the 17th or 18th century, rich people used to display tulip bulbs at home as a sign of their wealth. But they are highly poisonous so it was important to tell your bulbs apart from cooking/eating onions. And robbing the living daylights is from Elizabethan England where they brought in a tax calculated on the size of a house’s windows. Some of these idioms are fascinating. Almunia… Read more »

Samesong

Norwich got Billy Gilmour that Chelsea loanee. Good little player.

Almuniasaynomore

Wengaball, My moniker is a bit of a grammatical mess. I used it impulsively one night last year when I decided to finally post something. I had read Le grove virtually since it’s inception but never had the courage to post so when I finally decided to contribute I hadn’t put much thought into it. In work there are 3 of us who support Arsenal and I was the first to turn against Arsene. Every argument would end with me putting my hand up and and saying ‘Almunia- say no more!’. I honestly believed( and still do) that his blindness/stubbornness… Read more »

DigitalBob

Happy 14th Pedro, hopefully many more years of the blog to come!

Aluminia with a superb bit of writing there, thanks very much for the laughs!

Wengerball – Thanks for the friday facts, very interesting!

Sid

Diet Pep is competing with generational Steve Bruce, looool

S Asoa

AllumiasnoMore

You take the news and mould the punchline. Brilliant about Wenger 2 year World Cup crap.

Dissenter

35% are still “very confident” or “fairly confident” in Arteta.
englandsbest has many compatriots
Let the games begin.

raptora

I laughed my ass off there:

AW: Yes,but enough of my beauty,tell me, how go our plans. Is Santa still here?
Edu:Santa,my Lord?
AW: Yes,he can’t deliver ’til Christmas! (Chuckles at his own wit)

Top class stuff!

alex cutter

“Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift) to listen for the bell; thus someone could be, ”Saved by the Bell” or was considered a ”Dead Ringer”.

And that’s the truth.”

https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/saved-by-the-bell.html

Bertie Mee

You are out of line, you should Not be let to get away with it because of your seni

Get away with what ? Expressing an opinion ?

Bob N16

Brewer’s Dictionary of Phrase and Fable – great book!

IQ

Quick question for those who are attending matches at the Emirates this season. Am I allowed to take a backpack? The website says no but I remember visiting before the lockdown with a backpack and they just searched it and let me thru.

Sid

“”””””Get away with what ? Expressing an opinion “””””

Red herring comparisons

Bob N16

IQ, People definitely were having bags checked on the approach to the stadium before the Chelsea match.

zacharse

Anyone else see Seaman and le tissier in the press defending arteta saying everyone knows the problem is the dressing room and players ‘getting away with murder”? Makes sense to me. the black and white narratives will ease up as the season goes on i imagine, footballers wanna play football and when that starts happening regularly again things will hopefully change: xhaka and leno removed from the xi. ESR Saka ODE picking up where they left off in spring. New players settling. I don[t have tons of confidence in us at the moment but damn it be amazing to see… Read more »

Bob N16

Following on from your post Zac, having a settled back 4 with Gabriel and White in the centre with Partey and Lokonga providing a competitive spine should be an excellent base for the attacking players to weave some magic. Let’s just hope they start the majority of games!

Bob N16

‘Getting away with murder’ – who’s allowing them?

Sid

Attacking players will not be weaving magic as long as our main tactic is Tierney pumping crosses

Zacharse

Bob i think seaman was of the mind that the dressing room was letting down the manager and letting him take a reaming in the press because they dislike him. Not surprised if there are those kinda conditions that were rock bottom. Its not black and white either, arteta is not pep guardiola- BUT he does start to look bielsa-ish… too clever by half as they say

WengerEagle

If that really was the case then it is all the more reason to sack Arteta. There is absolutely no coming back from completely losing the dressing room and the players downing tools as we have seen with so many gaffers in the past like Mourinho, Moyes at United, Emery towards the end here, etc.

Sid

Norwich D6 W17

Wengaball

IQ – I don’t know if this season is different but I have been to the Emirates a few times and have always carried a backpack. No issues ever. They search and let you in.

Alex cutter – I did qualify it at the outset :). Some of it does read a bit fanciful.

Almuniasaynomore

Rich, I see you paid a flying visit last night. Hope all’s well your end. Crap start to the season,poor time to be a gunner regardless of who the blame lies with( you know my thoughts!).I don’t think it’s too wild to predict Arsenal finishing 5th-7th but that’s a reflection of the premiership really. A lot of very poor teams. I’d say a better measure is how many points we finish off 4th. Huge difference in finishing 7th but only say 6 points off 4th and finishing 5th but being 12 pts off. Arteta must close the gap considerably before… Read more »

Kroenkephobe

Do you think the level of traffic on here tonight would be slightly higher if we’d have three positive results (or even one) so far this term? England’sbest – cmon geezer! Give us all some of that Henry V Before Harfleur. Here’s my go. Almunia – I hope you’re not a Shakespeare luvvy otherwise this will tip you over the edge. I assume your literary behemoths are a bit closer to home – Joyce, GBS, Wilde et al. A true Hibernian pantheon. Don’t worry BTW, I’m not going to suggest a round of WS adaptations. Mikel Arteta before Norwich Once… Read more »

Tom

Thanks a lot Alex for ruining everything with your facts.
The “dead ringer “ the cemetery version sounded way better .

What’s next, someone chiming in with facts debunking Arteta’s generational coaching talent myth?

Tony

Almuniasaynomore
LG is much richer when you decided to post last year.

Trying to guess the conclusion but we have to wait for it to be Artetanomore before we have our answer. Daft but genius at the same time..

You brighten up this blog, Almunia keep them coming.

Valentin

I predict a 3-2 victory or a 3-3 draw after we conceded 3 goals. Norwich are pretty much the best opponents Arsenal could hope for, but they have enough to bother us if the team is not at it from the first minute. With many players either coming late from international or just recovering from knock or covid, we may have a slow start and fall behind early on before a rallying in the second half. I hope that the team is roaring to go and smash them from the first whistle, but with so few training sessions together the… Read more »

Chris

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