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A dramatic headline for dramatic times my friends.

Today, we’re announcing our partnership with YouGov and their fancy new ‘Chat’ service. YouGov is all about consumer research. If you work in advertising, your media team has used them to tell you what type of biscuits northerners like. If you’ve seen a poll for the elections, it’s usually them. They are the best in the business, so I’m happy to have them on the site. The tool they’ve given us is called Chat. It’s a little button in the bottom corner of the site. Click it and then follow along. It’ll ask you to answer some very specific questions related to Arsenal. Your reward? It’ll tell you what fans are thinking across those topics instantly. The hope is that we can get a more accurate view of what Arsenal fans are thinking, and it’ll give me some extra content to work with.

My main point of excitement here is tracking fan sentiment around the club in real-time.

We have a little bit of exclusive fresh data (sample 461) to share with you today based around Arsenal, and it might ladder back to why we’re seeing more gaps in the stadium, and why people 27,000th on the waiting list are being offered season tickets after just 3 years of waiting list time.

Before the start of the season,YouGov ran a survey and asked ‘How confident are you in the football team.’ They found that Arsenal fans were confident but hardly bullish. Only 10% of fans felt very confident, 44% felt somewhat confident. ‘Not very confident‘ sat at 36% and ‘Not at all confident‘ was 8%.

Quite staggering that Arsenal fans could feel so low despite unleashing so much cash this summer.

Fast forward 3 games of pain…

Things have taken a dramatic shift for the worse. After only 3 games 33% of our fans are fully ‘Not at all confident‘ about the team (Only 8% registered here before the start of the season). 37% of fans are ‘Not very confident.’

Team positive only makes up 29% of the fanbase as of this week. Where are my people?!

Confidence in the manager has also cratered over the 3 Premier League games. 60% of the fanbase is Not Very Confident or Not at All Confident in the manager. At the start of the season, amazingly, 66% of the fanbase registered Very Confident or Somewhat confident. This is a dramatic decline and shows you how much danger Arteta is in with the fans as we head into a group of fixtures that lead us to a massive derby game against Spurs one game before the international break. No doubt the club will be keeping an eye on this one, and if results are poor, there won’t be much protection for Arteta from the numbers.

Things don’t get much better for Arsenal when fans are asked where they think the club will finish come the end of the season. Now this question is very much wrapped in the emotion of the moment, losing 3 games doesn’t help with clarity, and no fan will listen to the word ‘context’ when they are being lampooned by their mates in the group chat for supporting a relegation fodder side. However, it’s notable that 0% of fans thought we’d finish near the bottom of the table at the start of the season, now 23% do! At the start of the season, a whopping 33% of us thought we’d finish top 4, after 3 games, that’s down to 13%. A massive 60% of us think the club will finish midtable… that’s after spending the largest amount of cash in the league this summer.

So in short, after two surveys, Arsenal fans are in the absolute gutter. We don’t rate the team, we don’t rate the manager, and most of us think Arsenal are heading for another season of midtable mediocrity.

Is that important? Yes. It’s important. That sort of sentiment stops fans from going to games that are midweek. It lessens the appetite for away day season tickets. It starts to break the habit of attending and supporting through thick and thin. This is dangerous territory for KSE because the fans are at the apathy stage with Arsenal before the winter weather has arrived. That spells difficult times for Arteta and it likely means there’s going to be more turbulence at the club if he doesn’t get his act together. We all know it was the empty stadiums that terminated Wenger and Emery. Mikel needs to shape up, get the team playing some sexy football, and he needs to put some results on the board.

I also think the club needs to do a far, far better job of communicating the vision for the future. Where is the football going? Why should I believe in this new project? When do we exit the transition? What is going to stop the next manager arriving and ripping up this plan? Wenger was the master at selling tomorrow, the current crop can’t sell out a home game against the European Cup Finalists.

What a mess we’re in. Let’s hope we can see a solid reaction this weekend. Arteta needs a result and so do the fans.

So, that’s the first of the data runs. Let me know what you think in the comments. I’ll have more time to spend with the next round of data, so I’ll make the charts fancier and do a deeper analysis of the numbers. Also, have a play with the chat feature and answer the questions!

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  1. Sid

    “”””””If you’d polled them in the Invincible season they’d have moaned about not winning the Champions League””””””

    You are out of line, you should Not be let to get away with it because of your seniority .

  2. Almuniasaynomore

    The Emirates,late at night. Two cloaked figures stroll briskly down a deserted corridor devoid of any light. One man is dark,tanned,swarthy. The other,fair skinned, exceptionally tall. They speak in whispers, their eyes constantly scanning their surroundings, revealing the deep unease they were both experiencing. The crunching of broken glass underfoot is at odds with their attempts at stealth.
    Edu: For fucks sake Per, did you have to break all the lightbulbs? We could have just left the switches off.
    PM: (rubbing his head gingerly) It wasn’t exactly a deliberate strategy! I was just checking the coast was clear.
    (Suddenly a sliver of light appears ahead on the corridor floor. A door has been cracked open but no one has emerged from the room. Edu instinctively puts his arm across Per to slow his movement. Unfortunately the height difference leads to him rubbing Per’s crotch. Both men glance at each other,taking only a millisecond to agree,non verbally, that the moment would never be spoken of)
    Edu: (whispers)Is that him?
    PM: There’s only one way to find out.( Per walks into the room,Edu inches behind. At the sight of a tall skeletal figure standing opposite the door both men immediately fall to their knees and begin to fumble with their zips. In a tragic turn of events Per realised he was wearing a shirt and jumper. Desperate not to offend his Lord, he began to pull up and down the zip on his pants. The scream echoed around the room long after all 3 men had left)
    Edu: (Speaking to the figure who remained with his back to him)My Lord, it does me good to see you but are you well? You work too hard,you need rest and food.
    AW: Not at all. (He removes his hood to reveal a ghastly sight. His face appears distorted like a candle which has melted randomly. A smile seems frozen on his face. It isn’t altered even as he speaks) I have been investing in botox and dermal filling injections. I’ve had microneedling,laser resurfacing and radiofrequency skin tightening. It has cost me hundreds of thousands but my therapists agree that the years have disappeared from my visage.
    ( Deafened to the conversation by the sheer agony he was in, Per struggles to his feet to acknowledge his Lord)
    PM: Good God!!My Lord, who did this to you??(suddenly becomes aware of Edu gesturing at him to stop) That is to say you look…..amazing. Who could possibly have the talent to do this?
    AW: Ever since I took the fifa job I have had access to the most amazing benefits. My plastic surgeon is none other than the same man who worked on Sepp Blatter.
    Edu: Truly he is a master craftsman.
    AW: Yes,but enough of my beauty,tell me, how go our plans. Is Santa still here?
    Edu:Santa,my Lord?
    AW: Yes,he can’t deliver ’til Christmas! (Chuckles at his own wit)
    PM: Yes my Lord, still he lives. I have never seen one who can survive so long on so little. It is baffling.
    AW: Worry not my German giraffe, he will be gone soon, I have made sure of that. Remember the curse says he must fail by his own hand. We must ensure he commits footballing suicide. You have followed my instructions?
    Edu: Yes my lord. I allowed him to buy White and Ramsdale. The footballing world knows they were his choices. But I still don’t understand. How did you convince him to buy them?
    AW: Simple. When he discovered my secret office I planted my ‘ For Arsene’s eyes only” diary in the desk. ( He desperately tries to widen his smile but to no avail).I compiled a list of ” Must have future talents “. Those two were top of the list. A pity he ran out of money,I also suggested Rhian Brewster and Nathan Ake.
    Per: Genius,my Lord. He is ‘signing’ his own death warrant!
    AW: I have had much help. My loyal servant Edu has played his part. The Elneny trick was marvellous.
    Per: (turning to Edu) What did you do?
    Edu: ( Smiling) Well I knew if I kept Elneny here Arteta would keep playing him…..thus ensuring his own demise. But then Galatasary were willing to buy him. I had to act quickly. I put a price tag on him that was 10 times his worth. I knew that would scare them off.
    Per: Well done, what did you ask for?
    Edu: 2 million.
    Per: (Whistling) Whooaaa, that should do it alright.
    AW: ( now snorting with laughter though his face does not change) And the Xhaka trick, tell him…go on,tell him.
    Edu:A mate of mine is a clinical psychologist. So I got him to write up a report saying Granit had Tourette’s.( Starts laughing) Granit was in on it, went round telling everyone to fuck off, calling them all kinds of names. The report said that he had really violent tendencies and could lash out at anytime.And the best bit…..( struggling now to breath with laughter) the best bit….it said that anytime it happened it was imperative that the manager gives him a slap on the bum so he knows he’s been bold!!! ( all 3 collapse on the ground roaring). Granit’s being going around acting the cunt and Arteta’s been following him tapping him on the bum every time!
    Per: Fucking brilliant! ( a slight snap brings them to their senses. Both look and see a crack running down AW’s cheek but are wise enough to remain reticent on the matter)
    Edu:(Sobering up)My Lord, forgive me but there is one thing I still don’t understand. You have manipulated the creation of a terrible squad, one which will ensure Arteta’s end. But what will you do when you assume your throne once more? How will you work with such paucity?
    AW: Edu,your intent is honourable, but you overstep the mark. Do you doubt me?
    Edu: ( falls to his knees) No my lord,never!
    AW: No possibility escapes me. I have been busy preparing for that exact eventuality. Tell me my Brazilian double agent, why do clubs fear international matches?
    Edu: Players get tired or worse injured.
    AW: And international tournaments?
    Edu: Worse again my Lord, fatigue as the players get no summer break, injuries,poor form become inevitable.
    AW: And what clubs will suffer most?
    Edu: The top clubs, the ones with all the best international players….( slowly it begins to dawn on him)…..unless they didn’t have any top international players!!
    AW:And what if a top Fifa official oversaw the introduction of a world cup every two years?
    Edu: There would be mayhem my Lord! Tournament football every summer. The best players in the world would be burnt out!
    AW: And how will that affect us?
    Per: Not in the fucking slightest. My lord you are truly magnificent.
    AW: I do what I must. Now go, my little seeds of malcontent. We must be ready to pounce when our prey falls.
    PM/Edu: Yes my Lord.( Both men turn to go but stall on hearing a tinkling sound)
    AW: Fucks sake. Could one of you hand me my nose please….

  3. Kroenkephobe

    Hiya, mate. I liked the sexual overtones at the start. You could have had chihuahua head also fumbling at his zip a la pumacoatgate all those terrible years ago. I expect it’ll cause Sid a few trouser arousal a over breakfast. I think I agree with what weagle said last night about how a loss tomorrow will settle Tets’s hash. This entire reign of bullshit needs to end so I can start enjoying it again. I’ll even knit England’sbest a black armband if he’s gone by Sunday. He’s the worst manager by far in my living memory and Ozil the worst signing. Have a good one today. I’m looking out at the Irish sea hoping for a weekend of change.

  4. Wengaball

    @Kroenkephobe – this one is especially for you. I have picked this up from somewhere on social media so can’t vouch for accuracy. The earlier snippet about baby and bath water is part of this longer etymology piece.


    There is an old Hotel/Pub in Marble Arch, London , which used to have gallows adjacent to it.
    Prisoners were taken to the gallows (after a fair trial of course) to be hung.

    The horse-drawn dray, carting the prisoner, was accompanied by an armed guard, who would stop the dray outside the pub and ask the prisoner if he would like ”ONE LAST DRINK”.

    If he said YES, it was referred to as ONE FOR THE ROAD.
    If he declined, that prisoner was ON THE WAGON.
    So there you go. More bleeding history.

    They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot and then once a day it was taken and sold to the tannery.

    If you had to do this to survive you were “piss poor”, but worse than that were the really poor folk, who couldn’t even afford to buy a pot, they “Didn’t have a pot to piss in” and were the lowest of the low.

    The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn’t just how you like it, think about how things used to be in England. Here are some facts about the 1500s:

    Most people got married in June, because they took their yearly bath in May and they still smelled pretty good by June.

    However, since they were starting to smell, brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odour.

    Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

    Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water.
    The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women, and finally the children. Last of all the babies.

    By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, “Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water!”

    Houses had thatched roofs, thick straw piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof.

    When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof.
    Hence the saying “It’s raining cats and dogs.”

    There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom, where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed.

    Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That’s how canopy beds came into existence.

    The floor was dirt.. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, “dirt poor.”

    The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing.

    As the winter wore on they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside.

    A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way.
    Hence: a thresh hold.

    In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight, then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while.
    Hence the rhyme: ”Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot, nine days old”.

    Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over they would hang up their bacon, to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could, “Bring home the bacon.”

    They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around talking and ”chew the fat”.

    Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning and death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

    Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or ”The Upper Crust”.

    Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.
    They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up.
    Hence the custom of ”Holding a Wake”.

    England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people, so they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house and reuse the grave.

    When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realised they had been burying people alive.

    So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, thread it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell.

    Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift) to listen for the bell;
    thus someone could be, ”Saved by the Bell” or was considered a ”Dead Ringer”.

    And that’s the truth.
    Now, whoever said history was boring ! ! !

  5. Gooner Grant

    Please stop trying to flog us the dead horse that is Arteta, the guy is finished at Arsenal. As we’ll all see 9ver the next run of games, our so called best 11 will not make a blind bit of difference. Anyone with a understanding of football can see Arteta is way out of his depth, and looks increasingly lost and desperate with each passing week. Loose the next 3 games he needs to go, already seems as if this season is over before it’s really started.

  6. Almuniasaynomore

    Well man,how’s tricks? I was looking at the Norwich squad last night, hard to see how Arsenal don’t win. They are really poor with a 2/3 exceptions,Cantwell, Aarons,Puki. They play an expansive game which will suit Arsenal who need help opening up teams. I see a stay of execution this weekend. Interesting to see if Arteta sends them out to play or to win ugly. If the latter is the tactic at home to Norwich then he should go regardless of the result. Enjoy!

  7. TitsMcgee

    lol at 5th

    Arsenal won’t get relegated but will def not finish any higher than they did last season. 8th-10th for me.

  8. Danny

    Thanks mate!
    Always fun asking people who use these expressions if they know the origins e.g. wrong end of the stick…….

  9. Wengaball

    Samesong, Karsa, TYAG, Danny, Almunia – glad you all enjoyed it :).

    And I thought only Kroenkephobe shared a love of etymology. The LG gang is fascinatingly diverse it ones interest and that’s what makes this blog such a great place.

    Almunia – out of interest, would you mind explaining the idea behind your own moniker? And please keep those sketches going – really enjoy each one of them.

  10. CG

    Great to see A. Wenger back in the thick of it , and grabbing the ‘ hot potato’ of the international soccer calendar and trying to get more high profile games for all concerned.

    More money going to the smaller nations, rather than the billionaires and oligarchs has to be a good thing.

    I hope he succeeds.

  11. Foxy

    origins of language are fascinating. e.g. Australian slang is much derived from Cockney slang, Geordie is apparently close in parts to old English and in Yorkshire a lot of words are of Danish origin.

  12. Kroenkephobe

    Cheers man, some real beauties there that I’d wondered about. Thanks for sharing them.

    The two I mentioned yesterday I think originate as follows. Knowing your onions comes from Holland where in the 17th or 18th century, rich people used to display tulip bulbs at home as a sign of their wealth. But they are highly poisonous so it was important to tell your bulbs apart from cooking/eating onions. And robbing the living daylights is from Elizabethan England where they brought in a tax calculated on the size of a house’s windows.

    Some of these idioms are fascinating.

    Almunia – hiya mate. I needed a confidence boost about tomorrow but I’m still sceptical. It would not be out of the ordinary for Norwich to score early with what turns out to be their only attempt on goal. And we all know what happens to Arteta’s Arsenal when they go a goal down. Norwich will have had someone practising long throws all week as well. They’d be daft not to. Of all the emotions going around about this game, eager anticipation isn’t one of them. What a club!

  13. Almuniasaynomore

    My moniker is a bit of a grammatical mess. I used it impulsively one night last year when I decided to finally post something. I had read Le grove virtually since it’s inception but never had the courage to post so when I finally decided to contribute I hadn’t put much thought into it. In work there are 3 of us who support Arsenal and I was the first to turn against Arsene. Every argument would end with me putting my hand up and and saying ‘Almunia- say no more!’. I honestly believed( and still do) that his blindness/stubbornness in playing Almunia was a sackable offence all on it’s own. How much did it cost us? Anyway the irony now is that I seem to have christened my online self Almunia!

  14. DigitalBob

    Happy 14th Pedro, hopefully many more years of the blog to come!

    Aluminia with a superb bit of writing there, thanks very much for the laughs!

    Wengerball – Thanks for the friday facts, very interesting!

  15. raptora

    I laughed my ass off there:

    AW: Yes,but enough of my beauty,tell me, how go our plans. Is Santa still here?
    Edu:Santa,my Lord?
    AW: Yes,he can’t deliver ’til Christmas! (Chuckles at his own wit)

    Top class stuff!

  16. Bertie Mee

    You are out of line, you should Not be let to get away with it because of your seni

    Get away with what ? Expressing an opinion ?

  17. IQ

    Quick question for those who are attending matches at the Emirates this season. Am I allowed to take a backpack? The website says no but I remember visiting before the lockdown with a backpack and they just searched it and let me thru.

  18. zacharse

    Anyone else see Seaman and le tissier in the press defending arteta saying everyone knows the problem is the dressing room and players ‘getting away with murder”?
    Makes sense to me. the black and white narratives will ease up as the season goes on i imagine, footballers wanna play football and when that starts happening regularly again things will hopefully change: xhaka and leno removed from the xi. ESR Saka ODE picking up where they left off in spring. New players settling.
    I don[t have tons of confidence in us at the moment but damn it be amazing to see us get some momentum and go on a run

  19. Bob N16

    Following on from your post Zac, having a settled back 4 with Gabriel and White in the centre with Partey and Lokonga providing a competitive spine should be an excellent base for the attacking players to weave some magic. Let’s just hope they start the majority of games!

  20. Zacharse

    Bob i think seaman was of the mind that the dressing room was letting down the manager and letting him take a reaming in the press because they dislike him. Not surprised if there are those kinda conditions that were rock bottom. Its not black and white either, arteta is not pep guardiola- BUT he does start to look bielsa-ish… too clever by half as they say

  21. WengerEagle

    If that really was the case then it is all the more reason to sack Arteta. There is absolutely no coming back from completely losing the dressing room and the players downing tools as we have seen with so many gaffers in the past like Mourinho, Moyes at United, Emery towards the end here, etc.

  22. Wengaball

    IQ – I don’t know if this season is different but I have been to the Emirates a few times and have always carried a backpack. No issues ever. They search and let you in.

    Alex cutter – I did qualify it at the outset :). Some of it does read a bit fanciful.

  23. Almuniasaynomore

    I see you paid a flying visit last night. Hope all’s well your end. Crap start to the season,poor time to be a gunner regardless of who the blame lies with( you know my thoughts!).I don’t think it’s too wild to predict Arsenal finishing 5th-7th but that’s a reflection of the premiership really. A lot of very poor teams. I’d say a better measure is how many points we finish off 4th. Huge difference in finishing 7th but only say 6 points off 4th and finishing 5th but being 12 pts off. Arteta must close the gap considerably before progress can be claimed. Moving from 8th to 5th/6th without narrowing the points difference would be useless.
    Anyway as I said hope all is well, backed Chelsea myself but still think city are favourites. Look forward to seeing you back full time,we might be on the same side by then!

  24. Kroenkephobe

    Do you think the level of traffic on here tonight would be slightly higher if we’d have three positive results (or even one) so far this term?

    England’sbest – cmon geezer! Give us all some of that Henry V Before Harfleur. Here’s my go.

    Almunia – I hope you’re not a Shakespeare luvvy otherwise this will tip you over the edge. I assume your literary behemoths are a bit closer to home – Joyce, GBS, Wilde et al. A true Hibernian pantheon. Don’t worry BTW, I’m not going to suggest a round of WS adaptations.

    Mikel Arteta before Norwich

    Once more unto N7 dear fans, once more
    Or close up Arsenal station and go back to bed
    In winning there’s nothing so becomes a fan
    As calmness, chillaxing and superiority
    But when the voice of Delia blows in our ears
    Then imitate the action of Vieira
    Stiffen the fists, summon up the blood
    Disguise tolerating the ref with hard favoured rage
    Then lend VAR a terrible aspect
    Let pry through the portal of thine own eyeball etc.

  25. Tom

    Thanks a lot Alex for ruining everything with your facts.
    The “dead ringer “ the cemetery version sounded way better .

    What’s next, someone chiming in with facts debunking Arteta’s generational coaching talent myth?

  26. Tony

    LG is much richer when you decided to post last year.

    Trying to guess the conclusion but we have to wait for it to be Artetanomore before we have our answer. Daft but genius at the same time..

    You brighten up this blog, Almunia keep them coming.

  27. Valentin

    I predict a 3-2 victory or a 3-3 draw after we conceded 3 goals.
    Norwich are pretty much the best opponents Arsenal could hope for, but they have enough to bother us if the team is not at it from the first minute.

    With many players either coming late from international or just recovering from knock or covid, we may have a slow start and fall behind early on before a rallying in the second half.

    I hope that the team is roaring to go and smash them from the first whistle, but with so few training sessions together the team could be disjointed.

  28. Almuniasaynomore

    Thanks for that,very kind thing to say. I enjoy this blog very much, Pedro should be very proud of the ensemble of characters he has attracted here,never a dull moment. It makes a difference when I sit down for a cup of tea and I have this site to visit,I love reading the contributions by everyone, your own as I’ve told you many times are essential breakfast reading for me, just know your thoughts are appreciated in this corner of Ireland!

  29. Almuniasaynomore

    Very impressive, is that a sword in Tet’s hand as he rallies the troops? I’m glad you’re not suggesting a round of Shakespeare, currently doing Romeo and Juliet, it’s torture!!!!
    Did you hear John Cleese is putting something together in response to the ‘cancel culture ‘ getting some Fawlty Towers episodes cancelled? Can’t wait to see it. This is one cultural fad that needs annihilating….

  30. underrated Coq

    Almunia, your stories are the only ray of sunshine from the Arsenal blogosphere, mate.

    Would love you to incorporate players, locker room discussions. Think of all the possibilities with Guendouzi, Torreira, Ozil, Xhaka etc

  31. Chris


    I actually think we will labour to a 2-0 or 2-1 win. The players we have back should be enough to boost us to getting a win although like you say, they will need time to gel. Should be enough to see off Norwich tomorrow though (I mean it bloody well better be)

  32. CG


    “”””:I hope that the team is roaring to go and smash them from the first whistle, but with so few training sessions together the team could be disjointed.”””””

    I think Arsenal win comfortably tomorrow because the new players have NOT had too many training sessions with Arteta & Round.

    Give these new players a few weeks with these Ex Evertonians and then they will soon be falling by the wayside.( like all the others)

    Players do not improve under this regime.FACT!.
    They regress. ( even our Saka cant score in 17 games)

    With Ronaldo tickets pushing on for £2000 this weekend and Arsenal supporters flapping about backpack regulations , Arsenal have to win.

    And they will because the Canaries are seriously garbage.

  33. Kroenkephobe

    Ouch. R and J is fine once but to go over it in the way I suspect you have to must be tough. That said I quite enjoyed the Baz Luhrman film in spite of myself. Leonardo de C taking an ‘e’ was an interesting twist. My identical twin daughters (think of the Shining and you’ll have them down to a tee! ) have just told me I’ve got to reacquaint myself with Macbeth and Of Mice and Men. Scottish nightmares meets the death of the American dream – I’m going to have one hell of a winter!

    I think the John Cleese thing has already been broadcast here on C4. One of the channel’s efforts to stir up controversy by letting a gammon-y, has been comedian crap on for an hour about how oppressed he is as a white man of privilege. Yeah right! I loved Monty Python when it was first broadcast but I think it’s of its time. The films were also brilliant for the most part but some of his other and later stuff was meh. Top 5 Pythons in order

    Terry Jones
    Terry Gilliam
    Michael Palin
    Graham Chapman

    Fire away – I’ve got my tin hat on!

  34. Tom

    Playing devils advocate one might say Norwich have looked bad but consider who they’ve played so far.
    Arsenal fans complaining about difficult start to a season facing Brentford away?… Norwich first four games: Pool, City , Leicester and now Arsenal.
    Go back a couple of years and that would’ve been four out of top six to start their season.

    Go back a couple of years and we would’ve considered it three points in the bank and licking our chops counting on making up some ground on rivals.

  35. Tom

    I’m sure they would,
    Brentford aren’t very likely to fall apart after conceding a goal.
    Arsenal, on the other hand, not so sure.

  36. MD-Gunner

    Arteta is firm favorite to win the Premier League Sack Race, and Planet Sport Bet make him odds-on at 4/9 to be first Premier League manager out of the door this season.

    As it stands former Inter Milan and Chelsea boss Antonio Conte is still favorite to replace Arteta at 11/4

    May the footballing gods listen to the bookies.

  37. Almuniasaynomore

    Am currently working my way through the marvel films with my kids,far more fun. Have to do Macbeth later,don’t mind that, Hamlet is my favourite but everything is relative! Of mice and men is another in the cancel culture’s sights, grab it while you can! I don’t know the Monty Python crew as well as I think my English contemporaries do. They never took off over here, probably banned by the Church! I have seen the films and Fawlty obviously but not the Python series. I can’t give you a list of the top 5 cause I’d need pictures beside their names ,Cleese excepted of course. Love the humour though. If I had to pick my top 5 comedy series I’d go, in order,
    1. The Office ( English)
    2 The Royle Family
    3 Only fools and horses
    4 Fawlty Towers
    5 The Inbetweeners

    The top 2 in particular I can watch over and over again. Will we be watching comedy or drama at the Emirates tomorrow?

  38. MD-Gunner

    Sp*ds supporters are having a field day at Arsenal’s expense thanks to Tets. Still funny as it reflects the MOBs sentiment.

    “What about the Brentford match, where they played as though someone had bought 11 dustbins, put Arsenal shirts on them, and placed them strategically around the pitch?”

    “If I had a cat in the condition of Arteta’s managerial reign, I’d be off down the vets to have it put out of its misery faster than you could say ‘pentobarbital’”

  39. UTarse

    It will be like “Xmas table 3rd place present” to Arsenal fans if #CONTEIN happens before October is upon us.

    Football gods indeed MD gunner

  40. Kroenkephobe

    OK Almunia

    Top 5 sitcoms.

    1. Seinfeld Some very funny episodes and truly mad characters such as the soup nazi. I loved Kramer (Michael Richards?)
    2. One Foot in the Grave – properly subversive comedy about an elderly couple. Richard Wilson is brilliant as Victor Meldrew – a man after my own heart. I remember one show where he ended up being wanked off by a chimpanzee in front of his neighbours at the village fete.
    3. Father Ted Drink, Feck, Girls. What a holy trinity!
    4. Royle Family – I agree. Pure genius. I remember Jim wriggling in his armchair in one episode where he said, ‘I only paid a quid for these underpants but it feels like I’ve got 90 pence worth stuck up my arse.’.
    5. Friday Night Dinner. The dad (the late Paul Ritter) behaves just like me according to my kids, and is just as hard of hearing. Nice bit of squirrel.

    Ever watched the Phone Shop? Fucking brilliant too and M.A.S.H. has to get a mention. Alan Alda was terrific as Hawkeye.

  41. Luteo Guenreira

    Joke Friday

    A man is out at a bar one evening and meets an older woman.
    Although she is 57 years old, she is still very charming and sexy.

    They are drinking, chatting, laughing, and having a good time, when she asks him flirtatiously, “Have you ever tried a mother-daughter threesome before?”

    “Nope, not yet”, he says.

    She drinks a little more and replies, “Well darling, tonight is your lucky night.”

    They leave together to go to her place. When they arrive she takes out her keys, opens the door, turns on the light, and yells upstairs: “Mom! Are you still awake?”

  42. andy1886

    If you do need to bring a small bag, please note that only bags that are smaller than A5 (21cm x 15 cm x 10cm) or clear are allowed into the stadium. Large bags or suitcases (including cabin bags), laptop bags and rucksacks will not be permitted.

  43. Tom

    I think the traffic is down across all Arsenal blogging community not just here.
    I argued awhile back against assertions that negative Arsenal outlook ignites debates and builds up traffic in the comments section.
    It might be true during games but not in between.

    Even Pedro stays away from comments section these days. That in itself says it all.

  44. Tony

    Good morning/Evening all game day finally.What could possibly go wrong?

    Well, we’re in the middle of rain season where when it rains hard we lose Satellite picture and sound. Of ten it rains just around K.O. I have an internet solution, but the picture quality can vary a lot.

    Starting with the game I have no idea who Arteta is going to select. More chance of wining the lottery than naming the first XI for the game. Bonus balls would be the subs bench.

    Being reported that Arteta has hinted (he’s not normally timid) that Stan has reneged on his TW war chest availability.

    The excuses just keep coming. Arteta was expecting more, but Stan didn’t deliver on his promise we’re led to believe by this hint. Oddly enough, that was my thinking in ‘my support the team not the manager’ post. In that, I said that Stan had pulled the plug when Arteta had spent all his holiday money in 2 days and went for his expected replenishment of the TW coffers.

    TT has been given the green light to start visa wise, now it’s up to Arteta.

    Don and his merry band of personalities is sure to be wetting himself/themselves at Jacky boy training with us again and not being able to wax lyrical here. Karma’s a bitch some say, but most prefer to call a bitch, a mirror.

    So much rests on this game to set the tone for Arteta’s remaining matches. Win well and Burnley will be nervous our team is giving their all for the manager with little or no handbrake. A fluky win will just paper over the cracks in a band aid moment. Burnley will be galvanized to play and beat us and they have some big bruisers to pose threats aerially.

    Draw or lose and it won’t be acceptable to the fans and I hope they make it known at the Emirates.

    Has ESR beaten the illness that kept him out of the internationals? Arteta is being cagey whether ESR is going to play, which seems so ridiculous that Tets is using ‘will he play or won’t he’ with a player he only played when he had no one left through injuries.

    For all my dislike of Arteta I want to win and get off the bottom of the table. It’s really come to something when we just don’t know if we can beat Norwich?

    If I found a genie lamp I’d ask for three wishes:

    1/ Give Arteta periods for the rest of his life. As he’s general nastiness is far worse than any girl I’ve dated with PMT.

    2/ Fire Arteta and Edu once Conte or similar is ready to join us. We’ve see for 20 months what Arteta and Edu gives us, which is nowhere near the level we need and the ‘win and draw a few, lose a lot’. That’s not going to change anytime soon. We are a mid table club with those two at the helm.

    3/ Rangnick and Conte to replace our two jobbers and win both league and CL in 3 years.

    Anyone want different wishes? 🙂

    Were you around for the, Who shot JR?” cliffhanger from the original Dallas.

    Was wondering if you can incorporate the odd cliff hanger in your sketches?

    Hey K’phobe
    Hope you get to see the match or record it. It’s 3pm KO so 9pm here just right to settle down for the match.

    My feeling is we’ll win by the odd goal from a hard fought game. A win but by no means a convincing win.

    Your thoughts?

    You can see where Arteta has got his bad habits from the more we learn about Pep and his two faces one that is me, me and me again, sound similar? The other face is the one he wants his fans to adore that dripping in tactics and toned down winner from his other face.

    Just my opinion. Not bothered if others disagree, as I could also be wrong.

    Anyway, the first face is on show today where Pep is backing the lord Wenger to have world cups as he feels his next managerial position will be with an International team: England anyone?

  45. Tony

    Thanks for the Etymology I’ve given them to my son for his reading comprehension English skill.

    Thanks also Alex for the link.

    We need humour these dark football days as well as interesting facts.

    Here’s a little poser with facts.

    What do these numbers correlate to?

    3000 – less than 3 hours and 50,000 in a famous historic moment in our history.

    The figures are correct to a few accounts, but could vary a little.

  46. Kroenkephobe

    Hiya Tony
    I hope the weather stays fair where you are and you get the full 90 minutes plus some footy has-been’s scintillating punditry. Jumpers for goalposts Ron…. Hmmmmm

    Paradoxically, it’s much harder/’illegaler’ to watch 3 pm kick offs live in the UK although I hope my trusted site doesn’t let me down. K’phobe junior and I will be on top of it. He’ll doubtless be wearing his new 3rd shirt which he bought from China for a tenner.

    A quick glance at the looks on the players’ faces (esp Auba’s who’d make a terrible poker player) in the tunnel pre-game will speak volumes about our attitude for the game to come. I’m almost trying to stop thinking like a fan and more like a neutral (some fucking chance!) and am therefore hoping that there’ll be drama and masses of it. Win, lose or draw today this shitshow should have ended many months ago. I’ve little compassion left for him because of his arrogance and ineptitude. Oh, and don’t forget the pitch side shouting and gesticulating which is about as welcome to everyone else as having a needle in the eye.

    I also resent him (as I did the last two arseholes – sorry Pierre for not being reverential enough about Monsieur Tete de Chihuahua) for not being man enough to walk away. It’s not macho to stay until the bitter end and you’ve fucked everything – the right think to do is to see objectively that you’re making things worse and to take the flak and admit you got it wrong. He’s not an Arsenal man – the last two of three we had anywhere near the first team were GG, the great Pat Rice and Ljungberg albeit briefly). Tets is like a lot of people with confidence but little intelligence – incapable of ever admitting he’s wrong. How people with his psyche get jobs like this points to a wider problem in society. I no longer follow a single syllable that comes from his tensely pursed lips, but if he’s been criticising Stan-k for being parsimonious then he’ll have his Waterloo moment possibly as early as 5pm BST. I might go out with a sandwich board on in my village saying ‘the end is nigh’ just like that bloke you’d often see around Oxford Circus. Prayer mats out Tony!

  47. Kroenkephobe

    Phew, I’ve let all that poison go to earth. Time now for some yogic hopping with Donovan on in the background followed by wholemeal porridge and some fucking decaffeinated coffee. Om… Om…Om…

  48. Goobergooner

    Kroenke 😂😂

    It’s one of those situations it’s probs just better put out of your misery sooner rather than later haha.

    Regardless of tets, our squad should have enough for Norwich at home. But then again, our home form under the sauce has not been great.

  49. Tony

    K’phobe you really get really belly laughing at your posts and especially today’s missives. So much so that I’ve pasted today’s rant, judge and jury tampering, (but in the end calling it right on Pierre. Sorry Pierre it just had to be said.), on Word and immediately dispatched it to my son’s Line where he’s on the links. He keeps thinking he’s going to jet around the world over the next few years to play courses, such as St Andrews.

    Not sure how he’ll feel when he finds out he’ll be playing those courses covid free on a trackman simulator. Should be a no brainer getting it sanctioned by our CFO when I tell her our son’s thinking and doing it in his summer 3-month school break. It’s all about finding the right moment and couple bottles of decent wine.

    He’ll know it’s next in line for his reading comprehension he’s lacking in at the moment. He can motormouth in English really well, but reading and speaking needs more attention. So I’m finding him funny extracts, posts etc to make it more enjoyable.

    Almunia’s sketches will also be great for him to learn projection and timing of comedy.

    He’s also Recording his readings so he understands how others hear him.

    The fun continues. Hope your trusty stream is good today. I’d honestly say I’ve mixed emotions really. I want the win but won’t be unhappy if we lose as it’s part of the process of a new manager ascending to Arteta’s vacant throne.

    Doesn’t it come to something when win or lose is a win, win situation? A WTF moment. Cue the village-less idiots and plastic fan murmurings in my general direction.

    The Palace Spuds game should be good as a warm up and a barometer for us. See how Paddy is doing at the Place helm? Haven’t seen the Spuds yet. Mind you, we play like a league 2 side, so it’ll have to be a fcuking big barometer.

    Have a good one

    Will it be our Waterloo with Norwich being the 600 hope so!

  50. Bob N16

    Morning/ afternoon Tony,

    Understand your ‘silver lining’ in a bad result today. I guess I would try and see it that way too.

    Really looking forward to the match today as it’ll be the first time myself and five of my best friends will have been able to go to a match for a very long time. Having a few beers, win, lose or draw will be the perfect post match activity. The conversation will either be ‘we can really turn this around’ or ‘it’s time for him to go – Conte in!’.

    Hope and expect a comfortable win today, if not head(s) will roll!

  51. Goobergooner

    Arsenal have only lost 2 of 18 (w9 d7) games against the canaries.

    Canaries winless in last 8 away games at arsenal.

    Arsenal have scored 3 or more goals in 6 of the last 7 home games against Norwich.

    We have only ever lost our first 4 opening games once in our history and have never failed to score in their first 4 games of a season.

    Man oh man, if anyone can break these records it’s definitely Arteta. He’s had a great run of breaking all the wrong records so far. I hope he’s not that shit. Surely.

    Oh and Norwich have lost their last 13 premier league games by an aggregate of 2-34.

    Watch the Arteta fanboys get all antsy when we win against utter tripe calling it a masterclass

  52. Tony

    Morning Bob, it’s weird but it is what it is I’m afraid.

    Sounds like the day will be pre covid like and much bantz all round. Enjoy the game, Bob and all gooners where ever you are. There might just be light at the end of the tunnel now or I nearly kicked there bucket last night 🙂

  53. Tony

    Graham you must be loving Emma Raducanu’s prolific rise to the US open final. I’m not a tennis fan just watch the big games from time to time, but she caught my eye when she fluffed her line at Wimbledon. I looked into her and she really resonated with me for her positivity and energy.

    Megga wattage smile and just down-to-earth personality. My son likes her already skipping home art class to watch the semi yesterday. He’s a huge fan now.

    Really looking forward to the final tomorrow. Emma said she beat Fernedez at junior Wimbledon two years ago in a close game. She added she is expecting Fernandez to have grown further than her because she is a year older.

    Either way it’s going to be a fascinating way the 2 attack the game and exploit their opponent’s weaknesses. I don’t know enough about the sport to know the game plan intricacies.

    From what I’ve read Emma has the resolve that let her down this year. It’s hard for the uninitiated to see weaknesses in a player who just brushed aside her opponent, begrudgingly allowing her 4 game from the twos sets he won by. Brutal accuracy and 100mph+ serves.

    Great weekend of sport for us and English clubs and tennis people.

  54. Receding Hairline

    Goober it was the last international matches on Tuesday and Wednesday, backed all the favorites to win then and over 1.5 between England and Poland, thought that one was gonna mess it up until Poland found a late equalizer. Forgot Southgate plays it safe against any team with a pulse, England didn’t create enough chances.

  55. Receding Hairline

    Goober if you meant this weekend well I play like a madman, I actually have a 38 game accumulator covering all games today and tomorrow across Europe, crazy I know.

    Didn’t back and Arsenal straight win though, that’s the confidence I have in my team against Norwich at home.

  56. Kroenkephobe

    Hiya Goober
    All those negative type stats for Norwich OUGHT to mean something but many similar ones went last year against Burnley, Wolves and Leicester. One thing about our diminutive so-called manager is that’s he’s a determined little bastard. Determined to take us further into the mire. Like you said earlier, let’s get it over with. Enjoy the game mate – you’ll be watching at what time? 2am?

    If junior ever comes to a tournament in Wales, he’ll be welcome round at mine for his dinner.

  57. Goobergooner

    Haha RH,

    Not a bad run for the internationals.

    38 games is solid as though, good luck!

    Hahaha and yeah I never put arsenal in my multis anymore. If I do bet on them, it’s for a loss, purely for the fact I’d prefer us to win, but it’s not as shite if we do lose 😂😂

  58. Goobergooner


    Haha yeah mate, tets the record breaking record breaker.

    And midnight kick off for me here, I’ll take that as a win on a Saturday night in lockdown.

    Hope you enjoy the day and the match later too my friend!

  59. Goobergooner

    Also Kroenke, haha thanks for confirming what my native Aussie slang wanted to say to shorten accumulator, Acca, but I just wasn’t quite sure if there was a British abbreviation 😂

    Though it seems as though accumulators are only called multis in Aus. May be wrong

  60. Kroenkephobe

    Hi Bob
    Despite all the stuff I’ve just written, I’m very envious that you’re going. Hope you have a top day. Which pubs do you tend to visit? I was always a Highbury Barn fan back in the days when we had a proper ground(!) not least because my flat is just around the corner on Highbury Grange. Then a lazy stagger down to hill to the woodbine and bank of friendship followed by a final fill up and a bit of shouting in the Gunners. I think Chris is going as well. It’d be really interesting to read some of your observations when you get time afterwards (or when you’ve sobered up and the hangover has subsided!)

  61. Chris


    Love the Highbury Barn, as it were, as you say back in the Highbury days, it’s where my dad used to drag me to as a kid ore and post match with his mates, him with his Guinness and me with my Coca Cola! It was either that or The Famous Cock as my dad used to like walking through the Highbury fields. By the time i started going with friends it tended to be The Gunners, will be popping in there today.

    I can’t wait for the game. As Bob says, you can win lose or draw but the company of Gooner friends is a huge part of the day also, I have missed that terribly.

  62. Leftside


    Hope you enjoy the game. I’ll be going too with my 14 year old, I hope we can put in a decent performance that doesn’t consist of us passing out from the back before getting the ball to Tierney to spam crosses in that will be headed away all afternoon.