EDU CALLS FOR PATIENCE

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Juuuuust a quick one today because I’m back in London doing London things.

Edu put down the grill for 5 minutes to talk to the media about our summer. It was pretty much the same things that Vinai had mentioned.

“I think we have to see the wider context than just the money around it,” 

“We signed six players who are under 23, which means a lot in terms of our planning.

“We started planning this squad a year ago in terms of consolidating the team and trying to get a better foundation. We have to balance the squad better.”

Pretty obvious. We have spent 5 years watching Arsenal spend money on ‘ready-made’ and it’s been a disaster. This summer, we upgraded in every position, but even if we had signed more experienced players, it would have taken time.

“It is hard. I am not asking for patience because it is the word that everybody hates to listen to.

“I am just trying to explain the strategy behind it because when people see just one window, of course they see it like this. I respect that. But you have to see what we started to do since we’ve been together. We’ve tried to clean the squad.

“As I said, it is 21 exits. It’s a lot, almost a revolution. But how are you going to fill those 21 holes? You need time. You cannot come in and do it straight away.

Edu landed a lot of criticism for this comment, but to be fair, he’s right. You can’t make as many changes as we’ve made and expect everyone to hit the ground running. It’s also clear that we went very, very hard at lowering the age profile of the squad.

It’ll take until December at least before we start kicking up a gear. But I’m pretty sure if we’re within spitting distance by then, we’ll reap rewards in the back half of the season because our players will be fresher and fitter than everyone else.

What cannot continue until that moment is the type of nutcase decision making we’ve seen with personnel.

After the break, we’ll see the actual starting 11 for the season for the first time, in a game they should win.

We need to see more aggressive pressing.

We need to see the consistent execution of a game plan.

We need to see a firm reaction to what has gone before.

… but I don’t have any doubts this will happen. We have found rock bottom. Better players mean better results.

Ok, listen to the pod, I’ll catch you tomorrow.

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Dissenter

Excerpts from The Athletic James McNicholas Sep 3. ‘ Without exception, the new arrivals will receive affordable salaries. It’s important to contextualise these purchases, and the fees paid for them, accordingly. Ben White may have had commanded a higher transfer fee than Raphael Varane, but is understood to earn less than a third of his wage. The Athletic understands White earns around £80,000 per week with bonuses, white Varane’s salary at United is at least £300,000 per week. That means over the next four years, including a baseline fee of £34 million, Varane could cost Manchester United a gross total… Read more »

bacaryisgod

“At the end of the day, the king and the pawn go back in the same box.” – Omar Little

R.I.P Michael K. Williams

bacaryisgod

Thanks Dissenter.

Pedro’s got me really confused!

Sly

Good post Diss
I don’t see KSE keeping arteta on much longer if he doesn’t deliver
There are no emotions involved with keeping him on, they’ve invested heavily in him and this vision
If he can’t deliver he’s out

Sly

RIP mike Williams
Great actor

Zacharse

Thanks diss

I know its not a popular opinion but i thibk both ramsdale and white will be good for the club. They wont get us goals maybe but i like ramsdales attitude already.

Zacharse

Unless parteys leg gets broken or tears an acl were not relegation fodder. I do kinda wish wed moved for neves or someone like partey and maybe waited a year on ramsdale- didnt seem like anyone else was going in for him

Zacharse

Actually a little excited hoping for

Ramsdale
Tomiyasu white ? Tierney

Partey. Lokonga

Saka. Øde. ESR

Auba

Dissenter

Arsenal midfielder Mohamed Elneny’s proposed move to Besiktas has broken down due to the 29-year-old Egypt midfielder’s wage demands. Elneny, who spent the 2019-20 season loan at Besiktas, also saw a switch to Galatasaray fall through for the same reasons. (talkSPORT)

Guns of SF

if mike wins the next 33 ill STFU….

However, I do think that its gonna be a very tough season really.
I dont see TP playing much this season. Perma crock again…

We will need to get into the Jan window to get that CM that we should have bought this summer.

Mo, Xhaka and Lokonga is not enough to last this season as CM

Tony

Morning all. Guns I did reply late to your post yesterday but you’d probably were asleep. Just read this below and I just don’t understand Arteta’s persistence playing ESR win the left. None of his makes sense to me, especially Saka hinted at taking a deeper role. Sounds very much like Arteta tinkering again because Ode played on the right for Norway. Will the Norwich game be another Villareal? “Smith Rowe would operate on the opposite side of Odegaard, with Pierre Emerick Aubameyang through the middle, giving both players the freedom to create in those central areas, instead of having… Read more »

Guns of SF

Hahaha Tony yes how did you know…
the question was if you were connected to any punk in the late 70s 80s in UK
Id have to go back and look for you reply.
Been enjoying some of the old stuff I grew up with lately.
Ex . The Misfits.

Guns of SF

Mike will use a back 3 again in CB
Saka will be the wing back, with KT the left sided CB
Who will be the right wing back tho?
or just go without one?

Again mike tinkering is maddening

Tony

Solid post Diss. Good to have you around again Utarse. Raptora from yesterday I thought of you after I had completed and I thought Raps is going to complain, so I was happy you’d enjoyed the story. K’phobe from the last post Happy you enjoyed the memoir, probably keep them for internationals when there’s little or no action. Malta does have that undercurrent of always keeping an eye on your back. Dom Mintoff I learned when I got back was somewhat of a despot with many skeletons that were added to after I had left according to a professor friend.… Read more »

Dissenter

Imagine the goalkeeper that has to be behind that maddening tinkering

Leno has detiororated so much under Arteta and it’s no wonder he’s trying to flee like Willian.
If he got his way, he’ll probably head for the German alps without hai go,al keeping gloves.

Tony

China when I was watching my new edition of the Allman Bros Berry Oakly was playing a 6-string bass. 5-string basses are more and more popular but you doin’t see many 6-Stringed basses.

When you looking into Joe Bonamassa I’d recommend: live at the Albert Hall DVD. By far his best with his band. If you like the blues rock you’ll love Joe and his work with Beth Heart was exceptional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEHwO_UEp7A

Tony

China next time you’re in Thailand we should meet even if a quick hello in BKK, and I’ll give you a terabytes of music and live videos.

Tony

With Clapton at the Albert Hall as Joe’s guest on the DVD i recommended. Great playing off each other in the solos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5aVK70P88k

Cans/Iems and volume required 🙂

https://jhaudio.com/iem?group=custom

Expensive but if you’re in a place where the music has to be low. These IEMS especially Roxanna upwards give you studio class send where you can adjust the bass as well as the volume.

Tony

The only patience required is from Tets and Edu before they get fired wile Conte is being hired.

#Arteta&Eduout
#Contein

Words on a blog

Tony

Saw Beth Hart live in London five or six years ago.

She’s amazing- what a singer.

Tony

Words I envy you. Would have loved to see here.

Tony

Just letting my mind reassess things Arsenal, which obviously doesn’t take long and I thought about Xhaka not getting the jab.

If he were a single guy I’d just think him thick and reckless.

However, he has a baby and wife. Maybe the wife was vaccinated but the baby wouldn’t have been. On any level that doesn’t make sense to me.

Is Xhaka Damien grown up? By grown up I meant in body not brain.

China1

Awesome Tony sounds great

Also yeah my brother had a 6 string fretless that he got for only £200 off Amazon from some unknown seller and it was horribly uncomfortable. It takes good technique at the best of times to play a 6 string but the profile of that neck was horrific. I’ve no idea how he actually managed to play that thing!

Tony

China K’phobe Alunia I mentioned this a year or so ago, but thought it worth repeating. Many moons when I did sales training before management training I used this movie as being inspirational and they’d get a copy to take home. At the end of one training course a guy came up to me and said he was going to show it to his teen kids. Not having children it had never occurred to me. I’ve watched it separately with my son and daughter who were both reduced to sobbing by the end. It had a marked affect on them… Read more »

China1

Dissenter Leno is likely to leave for free as well

The frequency with which we lose players on a free or almost free is absolutely staggering

The other day I compiled a list of so many players who left for free/likely to leave for free in the coming 18 months/we actually PAID to leave and we had almost a whole team and bench. Covered most positions quite evenly as well! It’s like an actual strategy lol

Tony

China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOP3P8TdDSE

You might get a view of the bass from this link. of find the concert download.

I always felt the Allman Bros were a musos band fist that appealed to a vast array of fans. Got most of what they’ve done.

Sid

Im here for the comments

Sid

I checked out Allman bros, i enjoyed their ‘instrumental illness’

Guns of SF

Sid check out the Misfits…
one of their finest most obnoxious lyrical masterpieces….
love this one… ignore the lyrics tho. shock punk 1980’s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F39UP1mjAnc

Gonsterous

Signing conte makes a lot of sense. In a way, it will unite the fan base because everyone agrees he is a top top manager Left field signings are confusing as fk. Happening with emery, where half the fans didn’t want him and the other half wanted him Should have gotten allegri then Next came mikel, another left field signing that divided the fan base, with some thinking he’s the next pep and others having reservations over his talents Maybe we can finally get a manager, the whole fan base agrees is top notch. Also, would be nice to have… Read more »

Bertie Mee

Valentin
Ben White has not just played one game. He played a full premiership season for Brighton and nobody thought he was a great player there.

On the contrary I know several Leeds and Brighton supporters who think he is a superb defender . Southgate took him into the England squad because he impressed so much in training.
I’m saying give these players a proper chance before you condemn them and above all don’t adopt the Le Grove habit of wanting players to fail as its part of the narrative that criticises the club.

Terraloon

Pierre And what about the brentford player in front of Leno standing in an offside position when it was headed in. Pierrre , Pierre , Pierre You really need to re read and try to understand both the laws and indeed the FIFA instructions as to how they should be interpreted You cannot be in an off side offside position from a throw in You become so once the ball is touched by a player from your team. So in the lead up to that goal offside could not be a consideration even though the Brentford player stood in Leon’s… Read more »

kjelli

You can assemble all you want Eduteta but if the players are not happy as Willian has hinted
the result is nil.

The Bard

Gonsterous totally agree. The club are in a mess and it starts at the top. Josh isn’t up to the job and the money needed to stop the rot is way beyond what the Kroenkes are willing to put in. All this moaning about Emi or Saliba misses the point. We need new owners and a top manager. Conte has a price. We need to pay it now. Waiting 10 games or 3 months won’t change anything. Arteta doesn’t have what’s needed.

Waz

I think you’ll find better players under a questionable manager don’t always translate into better replays. Unless there was a 25 man conspiracy against Arteta to play the second lowest football last year in build up. I doubt it

Jeff

Edu calls for patience does he? That seems to be the goto word these days. We could be here a while waiting for miracles to happen.

Jeff

Testing

Spanishdave

Edu wants patience’s because he loves the wage packet and easy lifestyle at Arsenal.
Dickhead

Terraloon

Bertie On the contrary I know several Leeds and Brighton supporters who think he is a superb defender . Southgate took him into the England squad because he impressed so much in training. I know half a dozen Leeds supporters who thought he did brilliantly in the Championship however a couple of those thought Leeds were mad to offer £25 million for him and another couple were far from unsure about his ability to take that next step. I only know one Brighton supporter and he was adamant that Whites poor defensive discipline particularly a set pieces was a major… Read more »

Valentin

Bertie Mee, Same comment than Terraloon. The Leeds supporters that I know all wanted a pure tall defender rather than another ball player who is exposed in aerial battle. They both told me that they don’t understand how Bielsa can miss that point when in effect the reason why even during his dry spell Patrick Bamford was preferred to Eddie was because of his physicality. So clearly Bielsa see the benefit of having a tall, physical striker who will defend from the front and put himself about, but can’t bring himself to also want those qualities in a defender. My… Read more »

Pierre

Terraloon Who headed the ball in the net….a Brentford player Who was standing in front of Leno in an offside position in the centre of the goal when the ball was headed in …..a different Brentford player . The goal was allowed So do me a favour , don’t come out with the bullshit about not knowing the rules. With the Norwich goal that was disallowed v leicester Who headed the ball in the CORNER of the net …a Norwich player Who was standing directly in front of the Leicester keeper.in an offside position the CENTRE of the goal …a… Read more »

Mee

White is a 4.5 in many areas and a 6.5 in one. Too many Arsenal fans in denial over this fact. If he was so good on the ball, he would be a CDM, if he was fast, he would be a RB and if he was dominant he would be a CB. Another nothing player who will play in occasional spells at the expense of results.

Dissenter

Terraloon
Thanks for your candor regarding how Ramsdale and Ben White made it to the England squad.
Ramsdale was the bottom of a very superficial pool of 6 premier league English goalies, all were injured except for Pickford, Johnston and Ramsdale. Ramsdale was the last invited to provide coverage,
Ben White was the most midgety and least experienced of Brighton’s central defenders. They didn’t even but to replace him.

Dissenter

We stacked up on players who aren’t exceptional in their positions
We brought a shoddy and average goalie because… he can distribute the ball
We bought a pocket midget central defender because …. he can progressively advance the ball
We bought a RB who’s not exactly a specialist

Jack of all trades, master of none may just be a euphemism for relative mediocrity.

Sid

You only need 90 mins to know a players general characteristics like spatial awareness, work ethic, leadership, risk assesment etc.
Thats why scouts dont need a full season to make a decision on players.

Whites spatial awareness is awful
He is good on the ball is not debatable, question is, quality of the midfielders he is passing the ball to.

Dissenter

I’ve also read some people asking for Ramsdale to be brought in for Leno
As annoying as a demotivated Leno can be, he’s still vastly superior goal keeper than Ramsdale.
Being enthusiastic and eager doesn’t make anyone better at their jobs, neither is coming across as a great banter bloke.
You only have to look at the carcasses of Ramsdale career.
Doesn’t it bother the Ramsdale fans, that we are asking him to step into another relegation challenged team. I guess 4th time lucky is such a thing.

Mee

If Conte comes in (how I pray), he won’t want anything to do with White, Odegaard, Ramsdale, Pepe etc. Close to 180million spent over the last few years. I think he will get a tune out of Saka, Auba, AMN, Gabriel, Tierney, Partey, Laca and maybe even Leno who has deteriorated alarmingly in the past two years. He might take one look at Mari in training and ask for Saliba. Missing out on the likes of Pep, Klopp because of Wenger won’t hurt a tenth as much as missing out on Conte because of Mikel. He is not a good… Read more »

Mee

I can’t believe Aaron Ramsdale is an Arsenal player. Ditto White, Mari and Soares. I view it as a form of desecration for such low quality players to use the same facilities as the likes of TH14, DB10, PV4 among others. It is disgraceful to the history of the club.

Valentin

Dissenter, The argument that Ben WHITE can play as CM is a fallacy. In a back 3, he can step in that central position and operate from there, but he can’t play CM. I have checked his stats. For Brighton he played 4~5 times there. In one he was viewed as the worst BHA player on the pitch. In two he was viewed as the worst midfielder out of 5/4. In the last one there was a worst midfielder who was substituted at half time and it was later revealed that he had been sick. There was also a game… Read more »

Dissenter

Valentin Yea, Brighton played a fast one on Arsenal They must have had hernias from suppressed laughter when they let it known that Chelsea and city were interested in their least physical central defender. Leo and behold, like the classical dupes…we came up with more money. They missed him so much that they didn’t even have to buy to replace him It turns out it was Mikel driving these stupid deals and the club is set up to just give him what he wants. In the spirit of a committee, he goes get most of what he wants. The Xhaka… Read more »

CG

Mee

“””””If Conte comes in (how I pray), he won’t want anything to do with White, Odegaard, Ramsdale, Pepe “””””

Too right. A. Conte dont do projects, processes or patience – he sets out strategies to win league titles from the getgo.

Failing that, he will get the club back in the top 4 every season( like A. Wenger)

I am hoping to see plenty’ CONTE IN’ & ‘CUN *TS’ OUT’ posters and placards on my bank of televison screens this Saturday against The Canaries.

We need this man, urgently.

China1

Well Val when your CM is desperately average and lacking in dynamism, rather than fix the midfield we all know the solution lies in having defenders who can ball instead right? It’s actually a really interesting and bizarre arrangement when a club thinks being a baller and beating the press is so important that it would pay 50m for a CB who can, but when asked about getting ballers in midfield for much the same purpose? *Crickets*… If playing out from the back is so integral to our style (it is) why is no one at the club thinking about… Read more »

Bolo

Mee
“Missing out on the likes of Pep, Klopp because of Wenger won’t hurt a tenth as much as missing out on Conte because of Mikel.”

100%.

It’s extremely frustrating and if we lose Conte I think it will push me over the edge lol. It’s not only frustrating seeing an available top level coach while we stick with a egomaniac that’s learning on the job. The fucking novice is falling out with our talented youth. Never managed a game of football but he’s telling Willian we will win the champions league in 3 years. Wtf?

Valentin

China1, I don’t understand that need to fix the defense before the midfield. Liverpool showed that you can reach top 4 and Champion’s League final with crappy defenders and inconsistent goalkeeper, as long as you have a good midfield base. Our main problem was and is still the midfield and the formation that keep them outnumbered against most of our opponents. Once that fixed, then we can touch the defense. Do that the other way around and even VVD, Chiellini or a peak Sol Campbell would struggle. In 1998, the Arsenal English defenders demanded more protection from Petit and Vieira,… Read more »

Terraloon

Pierre If you are going to comment about why decisions have been called incorrectly then you really need to at least try to understand what the laws say. Go back to the very basics in that you can not be offside from a throw in You are incredibly vocal about how bad Arsenal are treated so look agai at the goal and as you will see the first touch from a Brighton player was the defender who scored the goal and then he was past the player that was jostling with Leno The player blocking Leno only becomes active when… Read more »

China1

Val I just think there’s far too much hipster BS and people over complicating football. It’s not rocket science even tho people increasingly act like it is Players must primarily be excellent at their core job role. Everything else you bring to the table is added luxury/elite premium Keepers must be able to catch, punch, dominate the area, organize and calm their defense. If you can do that excellently, being good on the ball is the lovely cherry on the cake. Case in point David seaman who was hardly mesut ozil with his footwork. Defenders must be able to tackle,… Read more »

Samesong

I’ve also read some people asking for Ramsdale to be brought in for Leno

Yes I have said this. Regardless of what he is. Leno needs a kick up the backside and needs to know that he can dropped also.

I hope Ramsdale comes in and has a worldie. Hopefully Leno will fix up his attitude and learn from someone else in his position.

Mee

Wenger for all his poor recruitment made astute signings as well. Arteta’s list of signings makes the shit list almost 100%. Which other manager can allow the likes of Ramsdale and Mari to train in Arsenal colors under his watch? These are the types that our strikers should be scoring against at least five times on a wasteful day. Smh.

Dissenter

Samesong
Leno’s problem is a goal keeping coach situation. A goalie is in,y as good as his.coach.
He wanted to train with Woodward m the club goal keeping coach because Arteta;s GK is shite. Arteta overruled him and got rid of Woodward.

You really think the thrice relegated Ramsdale is the guy. We’ll have to wait and see.

Dissenter

*A goalie is only as good as his coach

Who can forget Petr Ceck and his coach, Christophe Lollichon
Chelsea initially resisted allowing Cech to bring in own coach. They relented and the guy is still there till now.

The fact that Arteta stuck with Inaki speaks volumes about the Spanish connection at Arsena.

Nigel Tufnel

Valentin, As I read your long comment about Ramsdale and White, the one thing that comes across is that you have one purpose, and that is to minimize anything positive about our players. You’ll find the only the people who criticize our guys, and ignore the people who might rate them. Let’s be honest, there are plenty who do. England finally, finally has a strong squad, (no Walcott’s, Chamberlains, Townsends) except for rubbish midfield, and to be either in our around it is a great thing for any player. To not be a starter, or to get in because of… Read more »

Habesha Gooner

I see we are playing hard ball over Elneny. We fucked up the chance to make some money on Nketiah and we are doing it again for Elneny. And both of them are in their last year. Just play AMN in midfield to backup Partey, Lokonga and Xhaka. And if all of them are injured or unable to play, we can stick one of chambers or White as DMs. They wouldn’t offer something worse than Elneny. And there is also Charlie Patino who can fill in for league cup games if it is absolutely necessary. 10 mil for Nketiah in… Read more »

Samesong

Dissenter

Ramsdale is an Arsenal player bow whether you like it or not. He is competition for Leno. Leno all last season had no competition. I’m not even going to argue about GK coaches. You still have a job to do between the sticks.

Leno needs dropping to get his mojo back. Nothing like healthy competition in the team.

Dissenter

Samesong
I think Leno needed to be moved out ASAP, the moment he indicated he wasn’t 100%
We’ll see if Ramsdale is the man

Dissenter

Habesha
“I see we are playing hard ball over Elneny.”

We aren’t playing hardball
Elneny’s move fell apart because of his wage demands…and now he’s got muscle injuries
Seems the player wants to leave on a free transfer like the rest of them.

Tom

“The player blocking Leno only becomes active when the header is made but isn’t deemed to be interfering as he isn’t in the line of vision of Leno and the scorer and i would question if he was in an offside position at any time” Terraloon Once the ball is allowed to bounce Mari becomes the player who keeps everyone on side. Not that it matters since like you said refs didn’t think Leno’s line of vision was blocked when the header went in. I think we all know where Pierre stands on every Arsenal related ref decision but who… Read more »

Chris

I also said the same thing about Ramsdale starting. Leno’s form has become worse as time has gone on. We are also unsure about his commitment, long term. Ramsdale is our player, whether we like it or not. He is definitely motivated and keen to impress. The way I see it, he needs to be playing games so we can establish whether we have a player worth persevering with. If it works out and he plays great, we have our number one keeper set for a good few years. If it doesn’t, perhaps Leno can come back into the team… Read more »

Dissenter

Ronaldo is the consummate professional
He shows up for his first day at United and is photographed talking to Ole with his two hands behind his back in subservience.

United youngsters are going to improve vastly over the next year training day in and out with Ronaldo. His mentality will get hem back to co0peting for titles.

Gonsterous

Dissenter

Don’t underestimate the amount of things youngsters at arsenal will learn from xhaka. They will know all the tactics of how to get into The good books of any manager and how to act like a hard man.

Tom

Nigel Tufnel, wasn’t the whole premise of paying over the odds for White that he would hit the ground running?

His piece of defending on 30 minutes was truly shocking by anyone’s standards, and for their second goal he was just a spectator.

Sold by Pedro as the Rolls-Royce defender he looked more like a Ford Pinto in his first Arsenal game.

Ishola70

The whole premise regarding White is all wrong anyway.

He is apparently like for like for David Luiz and we all know how that turned out overall.

Get in a good midfield and a defensively dodgy defender who is good on the ball won’t be so exposed.

As for Leno keep kidding yourselves that he was a top keeper all his time at Arsenal. He was a good shot stopper not a good all round keeper and that has been the case since he walked in the door at Arsenal.

CG

Dissenter

”””United youngsters are going to improve vastly over the next year training day in and out with Ronaldo. His mentality will get hem back to co0peting for titles.””””

Absolutely,

Arsenal signed Ramsdale from Sheffield , (despite the fact we have the German no.2 goalkeeper on our books) for more money.

Man Utd get Ronaldo: Arsenal get Ramsdale. Sort of sums up the current shambles( and vision) at the club.

Ronny , x 3 times Balon D’or holder
Ramsdale x 3 times the Relegator

Man United tickets SOLD OUT! Arsenal tickets AVAILABLE!

Dissenter

Ishola
“Get in a good midfield and a defensively dodgy defender who is good on the ball won’t be so exposed.”

Exactly, an athletic tackling ball winner like Bissouma in front of Ben White at Brighton made the youngster look better than he truly is. Lets see how he gets along with passing to Xhaka.

Bob N16

Judging a player on one match is ridiculous, particularly in a make shift defence. It’s astounding how people seem to keen to right off an Arsenal player so readily. Calling White a ‘midget’ at 6 ft pretty much sumsup the criticism. I know I’ll be cheering him on this Saturday – some of you keyboard ‘supporters’ need to take a step back from this incessant criticism and try and get some much needed perspective. Nobody can be happy with where we are at but we might just have the makings of a decent team; TT, White, Gabriel, Lokonga, Partey starting… Read more »

Ishola70

I’m not even making a judgement on White.

Just saying if he was a bit dodgy defensively then a better midfield could help matters. Not all the time but on occasions.

As for Ramsdale if he has a bit of game and some cajones we are on our way to having a better keeper in the long run than the current No.1.

Bertie Mee

Bob
You are right it is ridiculous but this site is full of negative know all’s who have insights denied to the rest of us, Arsenal has accumulated a hugely negative fanbase and so unpleasant do I find going to the ground now I’m lending my ticket to friends.Thats nothing to do with the football it’s due to the toxicity of the fanbase amply illustrated here.

Habesha Gooner

Dissenter
https://t.co/KREL6TNXiF?amp=1
Here is a link.

Chris Wheatley
@ChrisWheatley_
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Replying to
@ahmet43089348
No agreement as far as I know. Gala contacted Arsenal about the player but the club declined.

It is not just wage demands. They could find an agreement if they wanted to. They just think they could squeeze out more from Galatasaray.

Sid

Diet Pep fanboys list of excuses:
give the blagger time to make his own
signings,
Give the blagger time to have a pre season,
give the blagger 10 more games,
give the blaggers signings more games before passing judging them

Dissenter

Habesha
Thanks man.
Aresenal are at it, it seems.

Sid

Lets bury our heads in the sand for the sake of positivity, feelings are more important than facts.

CG

Bertie

Its was not the supporters that sent Arsenal to the foot of the league table and out of Europe for the first time for a quarter of a century.

they never bought William, Cedric, Mary, Runaarsson ,White, Ramsdale etc either.
nor did they sell Martinez
nor did they fail to score against Villarreal

you should be taking your ‘A&E Out’ and ‘Conte In’ placard Saturday and start BLAMING the real culprits and villains to the shambles that is Arsenal FC.

KSE/A&E/ and Vinny the Wally.

CG

Sid

””’give the blagger time to make his own
signings,
Give the blagger time to have a pre season,
give the blagger 10 more games,
give the blaggers signings more games before passing judging them”””’

and don’t forget ‘the week in between the matches, to assist with the coaching’

Well the Basque Blagger has had x3 weeks in x3 games , lost the bloody lot and failed to score a goal.

Terraloon

Tom 100% with your comments re the offside Pierre like many on Untold just don’t know the current version of the laws nor can they see anything other than Arsenal tinted glasses and that goes for pundits and ex players that see a bad tackle and disagree with the yellow or a red because in their words “ he didn’t mean it” .In the day they may have had a point but currently intent isn’t one of things a ref has to factor in when making a call I once read that just about every PL clubs supporters believes the… Read more »

Dissenter

Bob N16 will enjoy the Kieran Tierney-Inshallah tactics that Arteta will deploy against Norwich
I’m sure he will be entertained.

Tom

Bob, isn’t every Arteta defense a make shift defense?
Even when all fit his back line was a constant shuffle job.

DivineSherlock

Problem isnt Ben White , the problem again is that he is being set up to fail . No defense in the world can carry a shit midfield , its why Newcastle with Steve Bruce play 5 at the back ! A simple through pass can slice open our midfield . You want ball playing CBs , what about Ball playing CMs ? All we have to do is play a Coquelin alongside a Cazorla ! How difficult is that to implement .

Kris

Ronaldo will not improve United. Yes, he will score a lot of goals. But the team as a whole? No, no more than before. For one thing most of Penandes’s goals will dry up, and the goals of other forwards will likely be reduced. And secondly, they will probably concede a little more because Ronaldo doesn’t do defensive contributions. But it’s still a decent signing because the club will profit financially. Still: Juventus before Ronaldo: 2016-17: pts 91, goal diff.: 77:27, Champ. league: Final 2017-18: 95, 86:24, QF – out to eventual winners Real Juventus with Ronaldo: 18-19: pts 90,… Read more »

Vintage Gun

“Lets bury our heads in the sand for the sake of positivity, feelings are more important than facts.” Yep. And the irony is most of those preaching patience and process are the same folk that ran Emery out of the club (rightly so) after 18 months. I just think some folk just like the look of Arteta in a physical way. The rest of us couldn’t care less if our manager looked like Roy Hodgson if we were at least competing. I can see a lot of stealth bans and deleted comments this season if things don’t pick up soon.… Read more »

Vintage Gun

If the truth be told it’s becoming a wee bit untold on here

Tom

Terraloon
Spot on with the bias in real time but not upon a reflection thing.
Example: Fernandez gets fouled by Stevens in the build up to the Southampton goal, but my immediate reaction was get up you soft Manc cunt! Good none call ref.
But when the dust settles and you look at replays, I would want that foul given 10 times out of 10 if I’m Fernandez.

Terraloon

One thing that really will need to be factored into Saturdays team is just how close to being in the red zone some of the international players who will only have returned to training on Thursday or Friday

Terraloon

Tom

Of course there will be incidents like that and even now based on the changed approach I am not sure it was a foul. Ironically OGS commented on it the other day and whilst not 100% abandoning his comment post match he did accept that viewpoints on such decisions were perhaps not 100% in line with this initial

Anyways it was against Man U so couldn’t have been a foul !

Dissenter

Another thing to look for is how many of the new players are thrown in,
A good manager won’t start any new player this weakened, Odegaard is already settled and Sambi plays by default.
The likes of Tomiyasu should be eased in. To many new players and we may look like a swinging party on the field

Dissenter

A midfield of Partey, Lokonga and Odegaard should look good against Norwich.

Sid

Arsenal are meek lambs, the referees feel the meekness vibe and its a big part in their decision making, you make your own luck

Terraloon

Dissenter
The problem is if he plays Odegaard that will be his 4th game in 11 days.

Ishola70

Vintage Gun

“I just think some folk just like the look of Arteta in a physical way.!

Really?

He looks like he sucks on raw livers for fun.

Tom

Ronaldo gives United another dimension from crosses with his heading abilities.
I don’t think he improves their link up or counter attacking play much having lost a step or two at 36, and I don’t think he makes them the title contender, or anything even close to that.

Terraloon

Tomiyasu Others playing games over a short period of of time are Tierney and Tomiyasu Admittedly if he plays it will only be Tomiyasu third game in 9 days but as I write this he is playing for Japan against China so will not get back into training till almost certainly Thursday and I suspect Saturday will be too early for him with some distance and time spent in the air which will impact Tierney will have played 3 in those 11 days. My guess at the team Ramsdale AMN White Holding Mari Tavares Partey Lokonga ESR Saka Pepe Auba… Read more »

Dissenter

Terraloon
Norwich have to loom at that starting 11 and realize they can beat us at the Emirates.
Could be a day of long groans at the stadium, hopefully we eke one out.