Juuuuust a quick one today because I’m back in London doing London things.
Edu put down the grill for 5 minutes to talk to the media about our summer. It was pretty much the same things that Vinai had mentioned.
“I think we have to see the wider context than just the money around it,”
“We signed six players who are under 23, which means a lot in terms of our planning.
“We started planning this squad a year ago in terms of consolidating the team and trying to get a better foundation. We have to balance the squad better.”
Pretty obvious. We have spent 5 years watching Arsenal spend money on ‘ready-made’ and it’s been a disaster. This summer, we upgraded in every position, but even if we had signed more experienced players, it would have taken time.
“It is hard. I am not asking for patience because it is the word that everybody hates to listen to.
“I am just trying to explain the strategy behind it because when people see just one window, of course they see it like this. I respect that. But you have to see what we started to do since we’ve been together. We’ve tried to clean the squad.
“As I said, it is 21 exits. It’s a lot, almost a revolution. But how are you going to fill those 21 holes? You need time. You cannot come in and do it straight away.
Edu landed a lot of criticism for this comment, but to be fair, he’s right. You can’t make as many changes as we’ve made and expect everyone to hit the ground running. It’s also clear that we went very, very hard at lowering the age profile of the squad.
It’ll take until December at least before we start kicking up a gear. But I’m pretty sure if we’re within spitting distance by then, we’ll reap rewards in the back half of the season because our players will be fresher and fitter than everyone else.
What cannot continue until that moment is the type of nutcase decision making we’ve seen with personnel.
After the break, we’ll see the actual starting 11 for the season for the first time, in a game they should win.
We need to see more aggressive pressing.
We need to see the consistent execution of a game plan.
We need to see a firm reaction to what has gone before.
… but I don’t have any doubts this will happen. We have found rock bottom. Better players mean better results.
Ok, listen to the pod, I’ll catch you tomorrow.
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Tom, you’re right about the lack of continuity in defence, now is the time to let players gain the chemistry and understanding by playing a settled back 4. KT, Gabriel, White have to start straight away and I’d be more than happy for Tomiyasu to be the RB.
Lokonga, Partey and Odegaard need to be a settled combination with ESR possibly mixing it in AM if Ode is not 100%.
Saka plays as does PEA at CF.
If Arteta doesn’t pick this team consistently, absences permitting then he reinforces the thought that he needs to be replaced.
Burnley away would be the match to worry me rather than Norwich.
Burnley could be going into that match with Arsenal still looking for their first win in the EPL and Burnley away is a different kettle of fish in comparison to Norwich at home.
Lose that and it’s straight onto Spurs.
Tom, You have the understanding and patience of a child. You want White to hit the ground running, nice, so does everyone except for the misanthropes and judges here. Such fine scouts of football talent, screaming and crying for Aouar that no team wants to touch. None. Hit the ground running, but for a defender, in his first game with a squad with covid chaos so bad that the club requested the game be postponed. With no Partey, no Gabriel. With a lousy manager to boot. Even without all those issues, it’s still moronic to start judging the guys acquisition… Read more »
Hi Pedro,
The new chatbot is cool. Great way to determine the opinions of those who don’t write comments here. Keep it up. Cheers!
Nigel
“But I’m a supporter, not a hater. Not a miserable person.”
I am lover, not a fighter.
Stop being so predictably moonful.
Take your pity party someplace else.
*moanful
Teacher to class: “what does your dad do at weekends?”
Little boy: “He’s a dancer at a gay bar and sometimes if the money’s right he lets punters kiss his bum and tickle his nipples”
Teacher takes him outside , “Is that true?”
Little boy: “ no miss, it’s bollocks,he goes to watch Arsenal but I’m to embarrassed to say “
Nigel, New one, being a hater, because you want the club you support to do well rather than being used as a training exercise by a coach who think he will he shoot off to Barcelona or ManCity. People said give Xhaka time and he will shine give time to Elneny and he will shine. Give Leno time and he will shine. Give Mari time and he will shine. Give Pepe a season to acclimate and he will take the premiership by storm. I have given time to those players and guess what they are not shining. Why because they… Read more »
Tierney has created seven chances, more than double any team-mate.
Let that sink in!
Ramsdale behind Mari, White,Chambers, Kolasinac, Soares? That is seriously teasing the relegation gods. As poor as Leno is, he is miles ahead of Ramsdale. And he is not a serial relegator. Remember when the team was struggling with Cech in goal and everyone was clamoring for Leno? Get a qualified goalkeeping coach and not one of Arteta’s know nothing townsfolk.
“Tom, You have the understanding and patience of a child”
I know, Nigel, I blame Pedro for that though.
Broken promises and all
People like to see consistency.
There has be no consistency if we compare the narrative with Emery and Arteta.
That’s why people have a dig.
If only we could bring in Conte. A target of top six for this season and top four next season would be in order. Then TW would be periods of joy whereby we target the Barella’s and Hakimi’s of this world. Nobody wills to be negative. But some of us know that things deteriorate really fast and relegation is a very possible outcome even for Arsenal. Something needs to be done ASAP
Ramsdale is going to depreciate under Inaki Cana
The goalkeeping coach that scoured Europe and thought it fit to sign Runnarson to replace Emi is still in Arerta’s good books.
First we were “bedwetters”, not it’s “haters” that’s being hurled around.
Inaki Cana is responsible for turning Martinez into the keeper he is.
Sid
“Tierney has created seven chances, more than double any team-mate.Let that sink in!”
It has sunk in, that’s why Arteta’s game plan has been labeled “Kieran Tierney Inshallah”
Hoof it to Tierney, Tierney runs and makes a wild cross aka chance, hence “Kieran Tierney Inshallah”
Gbat
“Inaki Cana is responsible for turning Martinez into the keeper he is.”
Why didn’t he replicate the same with Runnarsson?
Nigel
“Tom,You have the understanding and patience of a child.”
Tom would regard that as a compliment.
Just a side note that Ramsdale was 21 when he became a regular for a top flight team – Bournemouth. They got relegated on their 5th season in the EPL and Ramsdale’s first. Fun fact about Leno: When he played on 13 September 2011, at the age of 19 years and 193 days, against Chelsea in the 2011–12 UEFA Champions League group stage he became the youngest German goalkeeper to ever to play in a Champions League match. Leno, at 19, was an absolute starter for Bayer Leverkusen, a Champions League team. So let’s cut the crap that Ramsdale is… Read more »
“Inaki Cana is responsible for turning Martinez into the keeper he is.”
Bahahahahahahaha
Ishola, Emery and Arteta not really like-for-like are they? Emery, an experienced coach, Arteta a newbie.
Would you not agree that a new manager has a learning curve and that he deserves a little more time than someone who has a lot more experience – the finished product if you will?
I’m not arguing that Arteta is not lucky to still be in his job but he deserved more time than Emery.
Raptora
It sounds like you rate Leno very highly.
I don’t know whether Ramsdale will have the overall goalkeeping abilites to succeed but there are plenty that have a stronger mentality than Leno.
Bob
If you are picked as Arsenal manager you have to be good enough whether you are a novice or more experienced.
Arsenal gambled on Arteta being good enough. Don’t look like it’s paid off.
If we ever get in another green behind the ears manager at least make sure that he has some charisma about him. Arteta barely has any.
“Would you not agree that a new manager has a learning curve and that he deserves a little more time than someone who has a lot more experience – the finished product if you will?” Interesting approach, I would say. To the contrary, an experienced manager is more likely to dig his way out of a ditch compared to a rookie manager who won’t have as many tools in the kitty. How do you give a newbie more time that someone more tested at the same job. How do you inversely rate experience? What gives Arteta more time to learn… Read more »
Raptora
“””””I don’t trust Arteta’s judgement. Ramsdale is a serial relegator until proven wrong. I have serious doubts he has what it takes to be the GK of Arsenal for the next 5-10 years.””””
I have no doubt, the next manager will be loaning Ramsdale back out at the first opportunity and getting Leno a new goalkeeping coach ( off his choice) and a new contract.
Leno inferior to Martinez, but still Germanys No.2 and very much superior to the appalling Ramsdale.
Raptora
My logic is quite clear our keeper has conceded 8 goals this season – Drop him.
Give Ramsdale a chance.
Is Leno not.droppable?
Or you going to keep going on about him being the youngest keeper in the champions league?
As far as I’m concerned Ramsdale deserves a start.
Dissenter
‘Why didn’t he replicate the same with Runnarsson?’
You actually believe that all it takes is having a quality coach don’t you?
I don’t believe what I wrote about Cana at all. I knew I’d get a clueless response.
Valentin, Dissenter, Tom, All the things you say MAY turn out to be correct. I’m pretty sure from what we’ve seen so far that Arteta is a lousy coach on technicals and personality, man management, possibly even talent evaluation…. hopefully not that last one especially, of course. I worry that I’m right, I just really hope that I’m wrong. You lot revel in the failures of not only the manager but the individual players, who have potential, and in many cases can succeed under a good coach. The midfield weakness still exists and that’s what bothers me most about our… Read more »
People don’t realize that Inaki Cana ran Andy Woodman out of the club after Leno indicated that he preferred to train with that GK coach.
Leno was never a great goalie in the mould of Cech but he was a very competent keeper when he joined Arsenal. He hasn’t progressed partly because the club are imposing a lump of a GK coach on him.
“Footballer Insider add, “Leno is believed to be a fan of Woodman’s methods and wanted to work with him on a daily basis.”
https://dailycannon.com/2021/03/arsenal-coach-andy-woodman/
Nigel
You’re bemoaning online abuse and hurling slurs likes “cretins” with the same breath
You’ve used “haters” and ‘cretins” in the last hour
Keep it up. You are one classy dude.
Smith Rowe leaves England under 21s unwell.
Returns to ARSENAL..?
Samesong
What do we have to lose
They might as well throw in Ramsdale and let Leno leave in January
Lets see how Ramsdale does under Inaki Cana and behind and every-changing back 4/5.
Dissenter
‘””””People don’t realize that Inaki Cana ran Andy Woodman out of the club after Leno indicated that he preferred to train with that GK coach.””‘
The mind boggles that this man is still working at the club.
Under his watch.
Martinez sold for buttons.
Runarsson signed.
Leno collapse in form.
Ramsdale with his x 3 relegations arrives.( 6th most expensive keeper)
Ex cluh Brentford improve in his absence and get promoted.
Just appoint Conte and all these idiots vanish overnight.
Wilian speaking to Brazilan media; ““I really thought a lot, together with my family and close people. Unfortunately, my time at Arsenal was not good, I wasn’t happy at the club” “I don’t need to go into details, but I wasn’t happy and I thought that returning to Brazil was the best option. I studied some other opportunities, but I wanted to return to Corinthians, to my home, to be close to my family. It’s the club that projected me to the world, revealed me. The right time to come back was this.” Don’t go into details ‘cos that will… Read more »
Ishola, I would be amazed if Arsenal go for a manager with no experience again for at least 20 years, charisma or not! Nigel T, I get a similar impression when I read the daily outpourings of the same posters who are down on the club. I can’t for the life of me understand the purpose of incessantly criticising our club. I’m not saying that right now a hell of a lot criticism is not due but to always see the negative and to post numerous daily posts is odd behaviour. Venting is understandable but making a daily ritual of… Read more »
He should have gone to Corinthians straight from Chelsea.
That he is playing in Brazil after just one season at Arsenal tells all.
And they gave him that long enough contract.
Comedy club.
Guys
Nigel T Is Pedro. Its a multiple personality disorder thing.
Neither so-called Nigel nor Pedro will come on and deny this because they’re one and the same person. I find it extraordinary that this happens but to paraphrase Pierre’s favourite chihuahua headed former manager, I haven’t worked a day at the coalface of blogging so what do I know.
Pedro = positive Pete = negative Nigel =Spinal Tap guitarist Nigel Tufnell.
Bob, Good advice to the haters here. The thing is… when you have that sort of personality and behaviour, you can’t really see it in yourself the way it’s obvious to others. They have found in each other here affirmation and a sort of pathetic kinship. They see they see the real dissenters here (like me and others) who honestly see many club problems, but try to support our players …as if we are the problem. It’s like that person with an eating disorder, looks in the mirror and thinks they’re obese, even though everyone can see they are skin… Read more »
“If Conte comes in (how I pray), he won’t want anything to do with White, Odegaard, Ramsdale, Pepe etc.”
Lol. Words on the marble from Conte’s pro.
Waiting to read more interesting take from Conte’s team member
Nigel tufnails is a psychology major apparently as well.
Was that professional opinion you’ve just given as a favor to fellow Arsenal supporters, or should I send you a check?
News flash, assessing players performance in a match isn’t tantamount to wishing failure upon them………something I’ve never done btw in all my 22 years supporting Arsenal.
Same 10/ 15 posters. Anti Arteta. To some it may feel anti Arsenal. I don’t believe that. I think they love the club
Am I happy where we are. No.
I do know that the young men who will be representing the club will be giving their all. They really need our support despite all other factors
COYG
Norwich have failed to win any of their last 23 Premier League matches in London (D6 L17).
Eerie silence
Diss
They are 11/2 normal circumstances they would be 12-20/1
Arsenal are 1/2
Good to lump if you think they will win
50 back on a ton.
RSPC
We are record breakers under Arteta
Get in ya cunt!
A glorious draw! Take that. If you haven’t heard of Gavin Bazuna before lads, you have now. What a keeper that kid is. Has it all.
The Amazon film crew,as part of their production of the series “All or Nothing”, have been given unprecedented access to the inner workings of Arsenal football club. Today, the beautiful and astute presenter, Catherine Whitaker, has been given permission to tour Arsenal’s training facility at Colney,London. As a further promotional boost, Arsenal have allowed technical director,Edu, to accompany Catherine and her crew, providing valuable commentary and insight into the philosophy behind the club and how the facilities are central to establishing and maintaining the culture of the club. Resplendent in a trendy yet stylish navy skirt and blazer with a… Read more »
Bard,
Lol “the money needed to stop the rot is way beyond what the kroenkes are willing to put in”.
Are you sure? Or is it just being spent by halfwits?
Hahaha and Almunia never ceases to amaze
Almunia
You’re class
Why not Catherine Whitewalker brandishing a Valerian steel sword?
@Almunia
🤣🤣🤣 brilliant as usual.
Brilliant Almunia, may I suggest a collection the day Arteta is fired.
Almuniasaynomore,
I have learned something from you and the people who do these long fictional conversation comments..
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I can’t scroll fast enough.
The people who compliment you, not because you are witty, but only because you validate them by ridiculing the people they hate. I guess that passes for entertainment for some.
Try Vigil. Pretty good series, or Grace.
Someone give Nigel his dummy back ffs ! He doesn’t approve of satire
Nigel Tufnel: a legend in his own lunchtime, which he has on his own at his desk, staring at the screen in rage or in confusion.
Two pieces of white bread, a slice of ham, and a slither of processed cheese, curling at the edge.
I’m thankful Willian didn’t take the money but honestly I find his negativity a bit bemusing because he himself played poorly, he himself broke the non-negotiables and he himself came back to preseason wildly overweight for a footballer
He can give over with this woe is me BS implying the club let him down or whatever. He let himself down just as much
People talking about learning curves for a young manager have completely missed the point
Because this argument holds water only if there are clear signs of the manager actually ‘learning’ and improving.
If arteta makes rookie mistakes but in the weeks following we see him tidying up, sure. When has that ever happened tho? We are worse now than we were last season. We were worse last season than the first 6 months he joined. He’s gone in reverse…
It’s only a learning curve if you are actually learning
Seriously every time Willian and his agent make out he got let down by the club my reaction is what is his excuse for playing so badly when Saka as a little boy playing in the same position was our player of the season and put the team on his back. What’s Williams excuse? The whole reason we signed this old head was to lead the team forward with experience. He provided zero leadership, flaunted the rules and took the piss with his fat gut. On top of that he played like shit. Meanwhile it was Saka the baby who… Read more »
China1
You too would feel let down if someone promised.you CL finals within three seasons
Dissenter true but if I myself played like absolute shit I’m not sure I’d have a leg to stand on!
China1
The fact that he left money on the table may suggest that he regretted leaving Chelsea. He’s next door to his former team, one year after his exit as they went on to win another CL trophy.
Really light news day again Saliba is doing well at Marseilles proving Arteta wrong yet again. Arteta says he has no leaders in his squad. I mean who’d want to take the roll as leader with Arteta barking orders from rage side line? The regularity that Arteta throws players under a bus or includes them in the growing non-negotiables bin away from there club. Why would a leader risk Arteta’s ire? Looks like Lokonga and Partey could run the MF Saturday as Partey is in full training. Other than above nothing really worth talking about from me. Have a good… Read more »
Almunia thanks again for the chuckles over my morning coffee.
K’phobe looks like Pedro-Pete got the idea from Don and his multi personalities/monikers.
Don really needed help but Pedro there’s no hope to do it when you know you’re doing it. It’s all part of Arteta PTSD at the moment.
You wait for the postpartum after his baby Arteta is fired, Pedro might only keep the AKBs and bin the real supporters.
They could start up a company: Le-Grove plastics.
Bertie Mee I understand your reaction to what looks to you as loutish uneducated behavior when people here are in full banter mode – a word not from your generation. My father was late 80s before he died, so I have a good understanding of your generation’s thinking of acceptable l behavior. I’m 66 very soon so certain things from those in their 20s to late 30s leave me wondering why they say or do things, but not with the angst you seem to portray here. The silliest games played here are the posters who decide to play the role… Read more »
Why all the gloom and doom guys? Without xhaka, guaranteed 3 points against Norwich.
Then we’ll have arteta and pedro explain that the season has officially started. I’m guessing we’ll have a nice September till end of October form table to show why arteta needs more time.
And round and round, it goes. Looking forward to being a mid table side. I’m told New experiences are good for the soul
Gons, behave you’re tempting fate with the euphemism guaranteed 3 points.
Anyway we all know the season starts in the New Year. Didn’t you get the memo?
My grandma was full of banter, at close to 90, its a cultural thing
When do these shit internationals finish so that I can watch some shit premiership games again?
“It’s only a learning curve if you are actually learning“
Equally, it’s not much of a curve…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9967007/Some-people-superhuman-ability-fight-COVID-19-infection-vaccination.html
China1 Spot on. Arteta never learns. Remember when he went with Partey as a lone CM in the Europa Semis? This season, he decides to double down on his dumbness and play Xhaka lone CM vs Man City. Remember the Martinez catasrophe? Now watch him let Leno leave and lumber us with the relegator. I am not ruling out a return of the false nine either. Xhaka will return to the starting 11 and captaincy ASAP regardless of form, opposition or any other metric relevant for performance. The GK coach who recommended Runarsson is still in a job and possibly… Read more »
Gbat
“Inaki Cana is responsible for turning Martinez into the keeper he is.”
If he performed this miracle with Martinez in three months, why isn’t Leno a better goalkeeper?