‘MINI-ARSENE’ (LONG READ)

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The title of this headline is exactly what is wrong at Arsenal FC. Nothing sums up the imbalance of power or the lack of leadership and vision quite like the flow of people telling you that this ‘Mini Arsene’ term is bandied around in the unkindest of ways.

Arsene Wenger was a monster of a leader for the first 14 years of his tenure. He controlled the club with an iron fist because he had deep battle scars and a tremendous body of victories under his belt. When David Dein left the club, he took control because he could, and the club wanted him to.

That was a dangerous model to embrace regardless of his talents. The power of ‘one man’ control is only good for as long as the talent is fresh. If the person has a decline in ideas or starts to lose the curiosity that drove them to success, your system fails, and usually… dictators surround themselves with sycophants, so you end up being the emperor with no clothes on, with no one to tell you your saggy backside in the kitchen is unacceptable.

Usually, good businesses learn and put systems in place to avoid history repeating. Lots of businesses don’t have succession plans, then a CEO dies, and all hell breaks loose. That mistake happens once. I suspect Steve Jobs death inspired a whole industry of consultants to help mega-corps with that issue. Countries elect flamboyant charismatic leaders who promise the world, then fail to deliver, so the next few times they opt for something far more boring and bureaucratic. Wall Street had a moment after Adam Neuman convinced the world his office rental firm was not a technology company worth £49b. Big tech stocks tanked, it was harder to raise capital, and the books were scrutinized for real numbers. There are always lessons to be learned… unless you are Arsenal FC.

No club makes more consistent mistakes in leadership than Arsenal.

Mikel Arteta is a persuasive man and transactional in the extreme. He is the Donald Trump of football management. That doesn’t mean he isn’t talented on the coaching field, despite what we’ve seen this season, most will tell you his ideas are compelling. The club knew Arteta was a pain when he was at Arsenal the first time around, he was aggressive and fought hard for his teammates and himself. I was very pointedly told at the time he was ‘a bit of a shit’ when he was a player, and there was a worry his nasty side would carry through.

Now, the player and the coach can be different. People can change and often do. Arsene Wenger in his book admits his authoritarian stage at Monaco softened in Japan as he learned to deal with different cultures. However, what you do with young leaders in big jobs is you surround them with an infrastructure that softens their sharp weaknesses.

There are some really simple things you can do in football and any business to make that transition easier and ensure the club always has control.

  1. Limit power to the specifics of the job. Arteta was hired as a coach, he should have remained a coach. ‘Manager’ should never have been put on the table. My last boss was obsessed with balancing the power of departments in our agency because if the power dynamic is off, bad decisions are made, morale is shaken, and the work suffers. It’s a simple notion, ‘do what you are good at/paid to do’ but we have all worked in businesses where others encroach on territory that is not theirs because it’s nice to have power. Just look at Don Raul thinking he knew better than Sven Mislintat. The better talent left, we are left with the wreckage of that departmental power imbalance.
  2. Create a simple hierarchy that empowers experienced leaders to manage, coach, and overrule if necessary. If you go for a young tyrant, you absolutely have to have an experienced Technical Director ruling over them. I tell this story every time: after Nagelsmann lost the Champions League semi with Leipzig, he jokingly complained he wanted an older profile of player, but ‘Ralph says no.’ The best young manager in the world was about 30 years old, to succeed, he needed a wiser head to tell him no and to work within the structure he had been given. Now that manager is at Bayern. Do you think he’d be at Bayern if he’d taken the job at Arsenal? No chance.
  3. Limit the hires and control the important ones to avoid echo chambers and fiefdom building. Someone tweeted a picture of about 62 (exaggeration) coaches coming out of the tunnel yesterday. A striking image. 62 people watched Arteta put Kolasinac into central defence and no one suggested an intervention. No one questioned a rejected players mental state, no one questioned his commitment, no one spoke about the implications for the fans, they just let it happen. The equivalent of seeing a plane engine on fire and assuming someone else will flag it. Young managers don’t know what’s best. Arsenal should have controlled who Arteta was allowed to hire and they should have brought in someone who had a reputation that wasn’t dependent on Arteta himself. What have we got now? A mix of journeymen and kids who are dependent. That’s how you get to sycophancy and a one voice top down culture. That’s not good in football or any business.
  4. Do as Netflix does. Build-in feedback loops. The basic premise of always-on feedback is that you create a culture of honesty. The quicker the feedback comes into you, the quicker you can rectify erroneous behavior. Has anyone sat down with Arteta and told him how his behaviour impacts players, staff, and fans? No one is born a good leader. You learn through experience. Hearing harsh truths is painful, but it allows you to grow. Does it look like Arteta is growing into the role, or regressing into something different?

If people are leaking against you and calling you a Mini-Arsene, it means you have too much power, with too little credit to back that power.

What does all of this tell you?

There’s no leadership at Arsenal. There are no consequences for failure, incoherrance, or wastage.

It is 100% clear that Vinai has no feel for the football side of things, no understanding when it comes to staff morale at Arsenal, and no guts for making tough decisions.

Let’s look at some of the decisions that have been made over the last two years.

Vinai fired 50 staff at Arsenal, pleading poverty. Then signed Willian for £250k a week. Then held back a few weeks until the story died down, then he sacked the club mascot. The story was so bad, Mesut Ozil ran with it to bury the club even harder.

Let’s talk about Willian. Vinai was at the club when we dished out a £350k a week contract for Mesut Ozil. He saw the decline in performance, he saw the fan angst over the deal, he saw the bottom line cost. Just as we were moving him out the door, what did he sign off on? Willian on £250k a week for 3 years. He did this deal with an agent that was toxicly involved in club affairs, had already started loading us up with shite players, and had ties to an exec we had moved on. In fact, I think the contract announcement was photographed at the house of the said agent.

He was also at the table when Arsene was fussing over the wattage of bulbs in the Arsenal canteen. He saw what an all-powerful coach could do to a club. So after it looked like he’d made a sharp decision with Arteta, what did he do? Let a 37-year-old launch a land grab for a promotion. He made Arteta the manager, then demoted Edu, and worse… he made Edu sit on his lawn and tell the world he was happy to be demoted.

What makes this even worse? He was basically co-CEO with Raul who ran the club so badly, he was fired 5 weeks into an audit by Tim Lewis. Vinai literally experienced the nightmare that is co-leadership, yet he bestowed it on the two most important people on the football side of things, after years of average structure.

Then we roll into this summer after our worst season in living memory… and what changed?

Nothing.

Arteta kept his coaching staff largely intact, despite big problems in the keeping department. He kept Edu in his job, despite overseeing a vast amount of wastage in the system. He didn’t change a single thing. We are in ‘let’s have another go’ territory.

Name a CEO at a major club that would operate that way? That is rudderless leadership.

Then let’s move onto the Technical Director. If I were him, I’d smell blood in the water with Arteta, I’d be in the press setting expectations, I’d be talking up the player recruitment vision, I’d be trying to connect with the fans.

What is he doing?

He’s spent the summer sharing his vacations like he’s a 22-year-old on a trust fund gap year.

People call this line of attack petty, but I guarantee you that those views never come from people that work in serious jobs where optics are important. When you ‘lead’ a department, how you are perceived with your customers is of the highest importance, especially in an industry where your customers are very emotional. Vacation snaps are for private, it’s bad judgement to be having fun when your club is burning. If you are going on a yacht trip, do not share pictures of the agent that lumped the club with Willian and Soares in the picture, and for god’s sake, do not share with the world that you are still in contact with a grim ex-exec that was sacked for grim things. BBQ post-Brentford? I mean, come on. This is the level of acumen we are dealing with, but my question, once again, is where is Vinai in all of this?

When I worked for an American agency, one of my pals I worked with slandered a jewellery brand at 9pm London time. The New York CEO shot her a text almost instantly and told her the jewellry brand was a client, to take it down, and to never do something so stupid again. You shouldn’t have to be told at Edu’s level, but the fact Vinai has no control over it tells a story.

Then you move onto Mikel Arteta. The concept of a young manager was an interesting one, but now, I have to accept, one that has failed miserably on many levels. The problem now is the metaphorical fuse has been lit, his rep with the fans is dead because of his arrogance, and let’s be real… the way he treats people has left a bitter taste in the mouth.

… but it didn’t need to be that way and good leadership could have averted the disaster unfolding now.

Just look at the behaviours that have been allowed to pass. The Brentford press conference was a disgrace and it set the tone for a dismal game. Win that, we’re 4 points off the top of the league after playing the two best teams. He sunk that game with his attitude.

Look at what happened at Manchester City. He rolled out a Kia right back who dropped a 40% pass completion rate and contribute almost nothing defensively a week after we saw him drop a stinker against Chelsea. He was allowed to galaxy brain the central defence with a player he has absolutely humiliated with average loan spells and a summer of ‘we would like you to do one’ talks over deal termination.

You earn the right to galaxy brain. He has not earned the right to do things like that. Where was his team? Where was the Technical Director? Where is Vinai now?

Mikel Arteta doesn’t have a feel for the fans and he doesn’t have a feel for people in general. But that’s ok, lots of talented people have weaknesses. But who is there to help him? Steve Round? Clearly not. If you or I were at the club we could explain to him how his decisions affect the fanbase.

If you are going to bomb Saliba off on loan without looking at him again, you have to be sure that Pablo Mari, a man who couldn’t get a deal in Europe before Brazil, is at the right level.

If we are going to lose the City game, you absolutely have to put a likeable team out there, because Soares is going to make distrust you even more. Kolasinac is a direct hit to your non-negotiables. Xhaka pining a midfield on his own despite the fans watching him struggle with speed for 5 years is going to be a problem.

No one is there to stop a tyrant from behaving like a brat, so he keeps on doing the same thing.

There is no more than 10 games to save this disaster of a season and if he gets the sack, it is more than deserved. But what I cannot emphasize enough is the silver bullet we are looking for does not exist in a system this broken. Great managers need controls, why do you think Conte never lasts more than 3 years? He tries to make a play for the steering wheel and he’s told no. BIg clubs need vision, structure, and someone who can make the big calls. Technical Directors need a level of maturity we lack, and if they have no power, why do you have one at all?

Big changes needs to happen. There needs to be consequences for the start to season we’ve had and how last season rolled out. But it can’t be token, it needs to be a change that has a strategic lens over it. What we have doesn’t work. What we have won’t work for anyone. If Wenger, Emery, Sven and Arteta can’t survive this system… no one can.

Before I leave, I want to point to some positives. We’re not in a relegation fight this season. We have not signed 6 bums this window. When our best players come back after the break, there will be a big improvement in the football. We’ll get a right back,  we’ll move on a bunch of players, and the spine of our team will repair. This squad is not a bag of mess, the right coach will take it to higher levels, the strategy of this summer might look odd now, but it was mostly done properly. You might read this line and say ‘but you just hammered the club’… yes, I did, a functional club goes so much deeper than the squad… 5 wins on the bounce won’t change the truth. Nor would 10. The club lacks leadership and until that’s fixed, we’ll always be searching for the silver bullet that doesn’t exist, and we’ll always feel like there’s no stability.

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rollen

how do you like the table?

rollen

All 3 stuges should be fired yesterday

rollen

no one?

rollen

DM.

Sid

Basque blagger

GK

Arsenal recruitment over 3 years has been criminal. Imagine Leeds paid £17m for Rafinha and he’s all we thought 72m Pepe was

Jonnygunner

It’s gonna be a veeeeery long season

Spanishdave

Good post Pedro but what hasten the changes?
In ten games we will be well out of it completely.
What mindset will the new players have seeing us arguing and the club in disarray?
Confidence is a big motivator with young players, that needs to be restored immediately.
Arteta should go now, he’s had 60 games, that’s enough surely.
The next manager must be the right one so the club can stabilise.

Fire

Surprised no mention of the Kronke… They are an inept father and son combo

Bankz

Can’t believe Spurs are going into the international break at the top of the table while we are rooted at rock bottom(could be there for the next couple of match days).
I know I’ve said this over and over before but we are truly royally fucked.
The longer we persist with Arteta, the worse it will get for the club/team.

Sid

Le grove should have a succession plan,
i propose CG

Bankz

The last paragraph of today’s post is a bit hilarious.
If changes aren’t made ASAP, we will be in that relegation fight with Arteta managing.
You really underestimate how bad we are under him.

Topside Northbank

GK

Emery got slated, his lack of English etc.

He wanted Zaha he got Pepe.

This manager has been backed to the hilt on his choices achievable signings, previous manager not imo.

Arteta as a coach will say it time and again he has improved no one in the squad.

Emery had Martinelli firing and got Saka involved.

Graham62

Pedro

On my goodness, fat too much information for my liking. Why can’t you say it as it is?

We all know that our internal systems and structures are shite but why can’t you accept that Arteta is a poor leader, because he is.

Shouldn’t be given any more games imo, use this break to get him out of the club. Why torture us even more?

“Stability” can be achieved if you get in a manager/coach who knows what he’s doing.

Graham62

far not fat

Mics

I’m watching the wolves game. Wolves are really giving United a tough time. They’ve created numerous dangerous opportunities and we are only fifteen minutes in. They hired a new coach after a disaster of a season, they’ve lost some important players recently, and they didn’t really shake up the transfer market. And yet they are playing cohesive and coherent football and giving Manchester United all they can handle. Their coach has just had a few months with the players. We’ve given the Arteta project two years and 200 million and we don’t even look like as coherent as a championship… Read more »

Mics

Bruno Lage was appointed in June of this year.

Graham62

Mics

Spot on.

Ray+in+LA

so who is available to replace Arteta…if he is fired tomorrow?

Dream10

Very good tempo from Wolves. They have been better than Man Utd.in the first 30 minutes

Spanishdave

Graham could be fart!!
Mics spot on Pedro is still hanging on by a thread

Topside Northbank

Wolves having a go and been on the front foot,

I look at us and where is the actual plan?

Fabregoat

Ray Honestly, most accomplished and veteran managers would do much much better than Arteta and the squad. Arteta has been awful. It really needs to be said, he’s breaking negative records constantly. Real clubs would have sacked him long ago. They don’t have to be the next best manager to get us playing well. Bielsa would be great to stamp a dna down into the club, Conte is mentioned numerous times but without a Transfer Window I don’t see him being tempted. Then there’s Rodgers, Ten Haag and the other usual names as well as Gaspieri, Ranieri would give a… Read more »

Benjamin

10 games? He should be fired today. We have 14 days ti settle a new manager in! Nothing will change in the last 7 games. Arteta will still be a cunt!

MGooner

The problem is the ownership and investment. For far too long we had no investment into the team. When you are doing top 4 with players like Wilshere, Cygan, Senderos who would sit on the bench in clubs like Burnley/Bournmouth, you have to realise you need to buy 11 top players who can challenge for the league. Some point to our net spend after 2016. This is a wrong analysis. The net spend (Income statement) should also be analysed against the balance sheet also. (worth of players on our books). This club cannot compare itself to the likes of Chelsea/ManUtd/City… Read more »

Bolo

“Conte never lasts more than 3 years? He tries to make a play for the steering wheel and he’s told no.” We are bottom of the league. So we should do everything we can to get him. Isn’t he a respected, experienced, serial winner that plays good organised football and a proven record of improving players? Who else could possibly be better? And so what if he leaves after 3 years? The chances are he will leave us at the top where we should be then we can go from there. No more experimental coaches. We need someone that commands… Read more »

No no no no no more chances for Arteta. Sack him now

Kroenkephobe

Pedro A mini pair of criticisms, if I may, about mini Arsene. Too prolix, and some trace elements of apologism towards Tets. No backsliding now mate. If Arteta manages like a twat, talks to the press like a twat and treats players partially just like a twat would, then he’s a twat right. I’m personally in full masochism mode right now – I fucking loathe what he’s done to my club and here I am writing and thinking about him… Guns of Hackney – keep those truisms coming about how supporting a team is far less important than the real… Read more »

Fabregoat

We blame the parents for spoiling the brat, but the brat is still responsible for his own actions.

As poor as our board have been, Arteta has taken us to this level. Alienating some very good players and talent whilst rewarding serial underperformers is just the start of his issues.

As many people have said. If the head coach is a poor judge of player ability, then he should not be a head coach. I cannot state enough how crucial of an ability this is which Arteta has routinely shown he fails in.

JJ

I would not be surprised if they replaced Arteta with Wenger.. The ultimate proof that this club does not learn from it’s mistakes.

Peckobill

Arteta is most certainly not talented on the coaching field . I have never witnessed such a poor , bland , boring and inept arsenal in my life to what I’ve witnessed under this idiot . Bar by a cigarette paper width amount with xhaka he hasn’t progressed a single player under his watch . His football is drastically bland ( like him ) , his team selection is awful , tactics practically non existent, man management utterly dreadful , in game management shockingly bad in fact I can’t think of a single part of his job that he’s actually… Read more »

MGooner

@Bolo

We passed on Carlo Ancelloti and signed Arteta. No way we can sign Conte as he is outspoken and would destroy the Kronkes publicly. There is no way they would make him sign non disclosure agreements like they did when Wenger started criticizing them.

This is no longer a big club. They want minnows as manager so they can hire and fir and continue to play the blame game while enjoying the cash flows.

Arteta has a face and look that you’d just love to kick seven shades of shit out of him. Arrogant cock

Jim Lahey

“There is no more than 10 games to save this disaster of a season”

Yeah, why are you continuously kicking the can down the road, waiting for a miracle? What will change in these 10 games that we haven’t seen over the last two years? The man should have been replaced last season, but we have an absentee owner and a clueless board.

Fabregoat

Arteta is worse than Emery.

The BFB

Worst start to a season in 67 YEARS. I never thought I’d see the day when Tottenham were top of the league and Arsenal were bottom. At any other club in the country the manager would be shown the door. It appears the Krankies are either masochists or bonkers.

Graham62

It is pretty obvious why Arsenal are struggling under Arteta.

1, He over complicates matters and consequently stagnates the players abilities to play with freedom.
2.His man management skills are absolutely atrocious.
3.His problem solving abilities are also poor.
4.He may have a vision but what is it exactly?
5 His in game management skills are also substandard.

The list is extensive, so let’s get rid.

Now!

Jim Lahey

“Arteta is worse than Emery.”

Far worse, apparently Emery lost the dressing room and the players stopped playing for him, yet was still able to get more out these players than Arteta.

Fabregoat

Emery wanted Zaha, Maguire and Fabinho.

Zaha clearly declined after we never went for him but Maguire and Fabinho have shown themselves to absolutely be brilliant signings.

Meanwhile Arteta wanted Mari, Soares, Willian, extended Xhaka.

Arteta looks better and talks nicer than Emery. That’s it. Emery was miles better.

@Graham62

Arteta’s vision is boring fans to death and hoping the opponents fall asleep. I’ve supported this club for over 40 years, this is the worst I’ve ever seen us. We really are relegation fodder

David Smith

Worrying stuff. Can’t see them sacking him easily, they haven’t got a clue and I’m sure they know it.
What we saw yesterday was perplexing, rare to see any other team defend like that , know he had his faults but the defending was better under Luiz , at least he communicated and organised.
What is Vinai even doing at this club? And what is that Lewis chap doing about things?

AC

Pedro is shit

Bergkamp#10

The funny thing is all the mugs who will attend the game against Norwich will sing Artetas name again and show no discontent against Kroenke or anyone else. Business as usual. A truly hopeless football club.

David Smith

“ It appears the Krankies are either masochists or bonkers.”
I think you grossly overestimated their focus on the club with either of those

Graham62

Peckobill

Agree.

From the GK to our attackers, there is no cohesion.

Leno, imo, is the worst GK in the PL. He doesn’t want to do any of the physical stuff. I’d drop him right now and put Ramsdale in.
Kolasinac should be nowhere near the first XI.
Lacazette should have started with Aubameyang yesterday.

It’s all about damage limitation with Arteta and worrying about the consequences.

Always gets the team to play on the back foot.

One of the worst managers/ coaches I’ve seen.

Bolo

Another thing I don’t understand is “its only 3 games”. Arteta has been failing for a lot more than 3 games. Why give him more games? What is going to happen? He will get higher than 8th place? Auba has been poor since Arteta came with his generational tactics. Emery never got this long and he was a lot closer to 4th than Arteta will ever be. Granit Xhaka this guy has cost us numerous important points. The one I always remember was against Brighton when he gave away a penalty and we were closing in on 4th. Then when… Read more »

sly

good post and podcast pedro I see Vinai/ Edu as being impotent as far as the football decision making is concerned, including recruitment. they have ceded leadership in that context to the emperor Edu appears to be a glorified scout We need a clean sweep of all three Its pretty amazing that an established billionaire entrepreneur could not set up appropriate administrative structures to run their asset as his compatriots have done with liverpool, chelsea etc Even more incredible considering they have multiple sporting franchises The light at the end of the tunnel would include the fact that -we have… Read more »

sly

wolves looking good with Neves as the engine

Temagooner

No need to give Arteta more time. He is not a good manager, is a poor leader and cannot take Arsenal any higher than he came to meet it. He should go learn more at a championship club and improve his managerial skills. We can clearly see through the hype about how good he was at Man City. But we forget he was not a manager.

Graham62

The post was more verbal diarrhoea than actual factual points.
We’ve all got extensive backgrounds in something or another but, come on, please, don’t keep protecting the guy. It’s not a good look.

In fact, it’s all rather embarrassing.

Peckobill

Mics I’m watching the wolves game. Wolves are really giving United a tough time. They’ve created numerous dangerous opportunities and we are only fifteen minutes in. They hired a new coach after a disaster of a season, they’ve lost some important players recently, and they didn’t really shake up the transfer market. And yet they are playing cohesive and coherent football and giving Manchester United all they can handle. Their coach has just had a few months with the players. We’ve given the Arteta project two years and 200 million and we don’t even look like as coherent as a… Read more »

RecycledOldSock

This isn’t nothing new, under Wenger Arsenal managed no shots on target in two consecutive games against Chelsea.

curse

edu will have to put his holidays on hold and get neck deep for the remainder of the window if he’s bothered about his job.
too many shit players and that will be diet Peps get out of jail card.
covid slowed the rebuild to the point that Wengers players are still here making the same errors they always have, without a fighting bone in their bodies.

Ishola70

Some very good points overall but I fail to see where Arteta has shown he has actual “talent”.

Putting players behind the ball and counter attacking in an overall safe football system on the pitch is not really showing talent in the strictest sense.

He was a poor hire and as you say it is no surprise we had this poor hire considering who we have upstairs making these decisions.

RecycledOldSock

A top 4 team under Emery and a relegation team 2 seasons and £220m later.

TR7

Neves is a far far better player than Xhaka, there’s no doubt about it.

Tom

Wolves look impressive under the new manager Bruno Lage.
I wonder what he could do with six new players every new manager needs to show their true talents.

NJ Gooner

Pedro, Good diagnosis. But one key element you omitted was the one that usually actually gets a manager or coach fired: has Arteta lost the dressing room? It’s hard to tell at the moment. They played so badly that it is hard to figure out if they are confused by his system, simply shite or downing tools. I still believe in civil, polite exchanges of views, I often disagree with Pedro, and you all have a perfect right to express your opinion. But you twats simply hurling insults at him should f*ck off to the wrong side of Finsbury park… Read more »

Guns of SF

IF we do not bring in any new players this window EDU must be fired with Arteta.

This fool had entire summer pursuing Locatelli, and others that had no interest in coming here.

Waited all summer for RM to sell Ode.

In the meantime we could have had so many better players.

I can list them but whats the point

Both he and Arteta need to be sacked together. Dual incompetence.
I dont even care anymore that Edu was an invincible

Both have made Arsenal invisible.

@TR7

Mate Xhaka makes David Hillier look like peak xavi

sly

Wolves look impressive under the new manager Bruno Lage

they certainly are Tom, feeds into the myth about difficulty about recruiting coaches and how long it takes to give a team identity

Champagne Charlie

Tr7

It’s not close, massively underrated player on here. Think he stands out alongside better players, good at everything.

NJ Gooner

Oh, and I favor replacing Arteta at this point. Let’s start with Lewis as interim CEO, and Rangnick or Overmars appointment with their first job to find a coach. Evidence suggests that snapshot coaching hire will be a mistake

Ishola70

TR7
“Neves is a far far better player than Xhaka, there’s no doubt about it.”

Not according to quite a few on here just a few months ago.

I got a bit ridiculed for stating as such.

Marco

Why did Arsenal not get Trincao ? Or Semedo? They are both playing so well for Wolves !!!!

Receding Hairline

“That doesn’t mean he isn’t talented on the coaching field, despite what we’ve seen this season, most will tell you his ideas are compelling. ”

Ideas aren’t the same as talent. I have a lot of ideas but I lack the skills. Talented people do, they don’t spend two years talking about what they want to do.

into the red

Hmm, not sure an ad agency is a good model for a football club. The metrics and the performance is completely different and require very different kinds of people. Management theory is all very well, and sounds impressive, and Americans are way more keen on moneyball type solutions. The problem is that football is an inherently unstable, unpredictable combination of very different skills and practices which often don’t conform to the spreadsheet culture or management psychology textbooks. That said, not many will disagree that Kroenke has overseen a dysfunctional structure inside the club which has worsened what was already inadequate… Read more »

Guns of SF

Why did Arsenal not get Trincao ? Or Semedo?

we all know the answer sadly

Ishola70

Just to agree with the posters earlier comments regarding the comparison between Emery and Arteta.

Absolutely agree that Arteta has turned out a poorer hire than Emery and no-one should be surprised by that at all.

Just missing out on 4th place in a competitive league like the EPL over a whole season has far more significance than winning an FA Cup over a few matches playing underdog tactics.

Mr Serge

Ishola70August 29, 2021 17:48:49
TR7
“Neves is a far far better player than Xhaka, there’s no doubt about it.”Not according to quite a few on here just a few months ago.I got a bit ridiculed for stating as such.

You did I remember that I was also ridiculed apperently he did not move the needle and was as slow as Shitka

CG

TR7

“””Neves is a far far better player than Xhaka, there’s no doubt about it.”””

if Xhaka was wearing the black and gold , he would pumping passes over to Traore and looking a decent player( which he is)

now, if Neves was wearing red and white under Arteta’s coaching he would like all the other players under Arteta – bloody garbage.

Lets stop this pretense :
The BB cant coach,cant manage, cant dress himself and cant get us a goal or a point.

ps. Thanks Sid.
Retired.

Mr Serge

MarcoAugust 29, 2021 17:48:54
Why did Arsenal not get Trincao ? Or Semedo? They are both playing so well for Wolves !!

Because we have a shit scouting network and edu probably never heard of them

sly

premiership teams are looking competitive…with the exception of arsenal of course

Marco

Who is this dude managing Wolves? They are playing so well! I am so jealous man ..their defense, midfield, front line ..so well balanced! Damn

sly

traore would excel in rugby

TR7

Wolves should have been 4-0 up. I am seething at all the chances missed.

Champagne Charlie

United should be at least 2 down.

Near guarantee they win this 1-0

Kroenkephobe

Almunia Autumn is almost upon us, with its Keatsian mist and mellow fruitfulness (give that one a try if you’ve never dabbled in English romantic poetry). But to see August out, try this one to ‘let’s twist again’ by Chubby Checker. Hope you’ve heard this one enough times at weddings and school discos. Little known fact that Willian views CC as one of his greatest cultural and culinary influences. CC = Crispy Creme. Come on all you Gooners! Cheer for Tets! You’re all looking sad! I’m gonna sing my song And smoke a massive bong I’m going round the twist… Read more »

Marco

This wolves team will destroy Arteta’s Arsenal

sly

why isn’t the wolves coach barking instructions on the touchline?? clearly not saucy

Moray

So, in short Pedro, you’ve been aggressively supporting a sociopath leading our club?

Dissenter

This argument about Neves is moot
Had we sold Xhaka then it would have been pertinent.

Still can’t believe Arteta was stupid enough to recall Xhaka.

Peckobill

CG
You get it , blagger would have prime Barca finishing 6th in their league

Chris

What a kick out by Jose Sa. We know Leno isn’t capable of that, hopefully Ramsdale?!

Peckobill

Marco
“ This wolves team will destroy Arteta’s Arsenal”

Hibernian and Brentford did

Champagne Charlie

Dissenter you were calling Xhaka our best midfielder ahead of Partey last season, and now you’re saying he should’ve been sold for 10 mil.

Who helps you with your flip flops in the morning is my question?

TR7

CG

No, Neves is a much more rounded player than Xhaka.

Xhaka looks nervy if even one opponent player closes on him whereas Neves can keep the ball even if pressed.

Neves is positionally more aware, knows when to push forward and when to stay back.

Xhaka has 11 red cards in 4 years which is criminal. Neves of course nowhere as reckless.

Xhaka good at long passes, Neves can do it short and long as required.

Not suggesting Neves is really elite but Xhaka is a nothing player in comparison.

Temagooner

There is a world of difference between a Manager and Assistant Coach. Arteta did not demonstrate any managerial skills to be appointed first as a coach then promoted to manager. “You get what you give, what you put into things is what you get out of them”. Jennifer Lopez

Dissenter

Jose Sa cost Wolves a massive fee of €8 million to replace Rui Patricio
They don’t like drama

Bob N16

Good post NJGooner, anger/ rudeness towards Pedro is simply wrong. Having an opinion on a blog does not affect who is running our club.

Bergkamp10- what reality are you living in to believe home fans will be chanting Arteta’s name. ‘ We love Arsenal we do…..’ etc will be aired as usual and ‘We hate Tottenham..’ ‘The wanky Tottenham Hotspur…’ etc but there is no way that Arteta will be praised in song.

Ishola70

Some are saying Arteta will definitey get sacked if he loses to Spurs. I think Matt on the podcast said this as well. I’m not so sure such is this club’s lack of ambition now and hiding behind process. If Arteta did manage to win both games against Norwich and Burnley then I think they will let him continue even if he lost the next match to Spurs. Of course it will all end in tears anyway but I think they will draw this out. A win against Norwich but two losses on the spin against Burnley and Spurs though… Read more »

CG

Pecko

“””CG You get it , blagger would have prime Barca finishing 6th in their league”””

BB would have also have then £2 billion in debt, not
just the £1.4 bill.

Crikey , a trip to a London Jewellers and a watch to Gazidas- thats all it takes to prove your credentials these days.

Whatever happened to the tried and trusted and proven performers??

sly

out of nothing
f’ing manure

Champagne Charlie

Classic Dissenter, Wolves GK just fucked a nothing shot into his own net.

Joke scoreline

Marco

Damn …the goalie should have had that one!!

TR7

I hate football sometimes. Manure as always jammy as fuck.

Guns of SF

look at Neves tyring to sell a bad foul gimme a break

Marco

This is what happens when you have shots on target! Something Arsenal are devoid of !

Bergkamp#10

This tipping around the issue bullshit from Pedro is embarrassing. How long are you going to ignore the elephant in the room? It’s beyond ridiculous at this point.

Sid

“””””””””DissenterAugust 29, 2021 18:00:29
This argument about Neves is moot
Had we sold Xhaka then it would have been pertinent.””””””””

you were the one comparing him to Xhakalson, shame on you

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