ARTETA HEAT INTENSIFIES (MATCH TWO)

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The most predictable outcome of the season occurred in the first home game of season when the European Champions absolutely took advantage of our messy starting 11. They were better than us, they didn’t really step out of 3rd gear, and they took their chances with absolute brutality.

I’m sure I’ll be accused of excuse-making, but when you’re 8th placed Arsenal and you’re missing your best two strikers, your best midfielder, your best two defenders, and your most effective creative midfielder… there’s a chance you aren’t going to do well against one of the best teams in the world. You can give me the ‘standards’ chat,  but reality is, that was always going to be a nightmare day out.

There were some bits that I liked. The most important start to the day was seeing Arteta come out all guns blazing, it’s a small thing, but after his carry-on pre-Brentford, it was nice to see him bring a bit of fire to proceedings. The start matched that intensity as well, for a truly glorious 14 minutes, we pressed hard, we tackled with power, and we looked a nuisance. The football was exciting.

Then BANG. Caught out on the right by the excellent Reece James, we failed to stop a cross that found Lukaku who finished with ease on his debut.

That took the wind out of a young side and we struggled to find our composure. The organisation went out the window, the gulf in class became more pronounced, and the weak links started to break in front of our eyes.

The second goal came 20 minutes later. Xhaka didn’t do well enough on the edge of the box, James was found in acres of space on the right that we didn’t solve for, Leno was beaten easily with a lashed shot that went high across his goal.

We didn’t totally fade, but you could see the players looked beaten. The ref didn’t help us, just like last season when we were on all the extreme ends of VAR decisions, against Chelsea, we were at the mercy of the new relaxed reffing on penalties, where apparently clattering through someone’s legs in the box doesn’t cut the mustard a season after a rogue bootlace would have the ref pointing to the spot.

The second half was marginally better in that we didn’t concede, but to be honest, Chelsea dropped into first gear because they knew we didn’t have much in the tank mentally or physically to move the needle. We dropped a lot deeper, which stopped the beasting, but it didn’t give us much in attack.

The fans, in fairness, stood by the team. When they showed some fight, there were cheers. Auba came on and looked pretty sharp, Tavares looked tidy when he replaced Tierney… but really, no one was saving that game.

It’s hard to pick through a game like that because most of the players we were missing represented starters, however, there are some things we need to discuss.

Cedric Soares isn’t going to cut it this season. We’re on game two and no one has a clue who our best right-back is… I have a sneaking suspicion it’s probably Ainsley if he can get his head on the project. There’s no position that needs a jolt more than that one.

Nicolas Pepe dropped another poor performance, as he seems to against big teams. He lacks a wingers instinct, he’s too slow making decisions, and most of the time his mazy runs end in him losing the ball. This is his 3rd season with us and he still looks like a raw 19-year-old finding his way. He had a couple of decent corners, but didn’t create a single chance.

Pablo Mari really is nowhere near the level needed even as a back-up. He has absolutely no idea how to handle Lukaku. He was too close, then he was too far, he had no street smarts about his approach, and his feeble collapse in the penalty box summed him up. How can you let another man do that to you when you are a professional athlete? That’s an Arteta and Edu decision though. They had him for 5 months, watched him train every day, thought he could handle the Premier League. He was shite against Brentford, then we let him loose on Lukaku and it was predictably bad.

Gabriel Martinelli was a 0 out 10 again. It was weird against Brentford and even weirder yesterday. Where is the beast from Brazil? Where was the nusiance press? Where was the player we saw burst onto the scene? It wasn’t good enough from him again and that’s a real shame. I can sympathise that he had to drop deeper because Mari was so poor, but he still didn’t shower himself with glory.

There were some bright sparks. Rob Holding might not be the best, but my word does he always give you a full-throated performance when you give him a sniff of the starting 11. He made some great passes, he was always in the game, and he did a better job than I thought he might.

The fact that Xhaka is the least of our problems but still a problem is also irritating. I watched a Reuben Neves masterclass against Spurs, who were the jokers that said he was the same player? Far more ambitious with his instinctive forward passing, certainly a level above the player we just gave a new deal. He’s slow, he’s safe, he switches off to danger, and he’s never going to win you games. Yet he created the most chances yesterday with two. I really hope the long-term plan is Thomas Partey and Lokonga.

Mikel Arteta’s performance? He was caught out by Tuchel who exposed the left side brutally and he didn’t react. The tactics didn’t match our reality, if ever there we a time for a shit-house special, it was with 6 starters out the team. Two banks of four with a springloaded counterattack was the move. We tried to go at them, which worked for about 14 minutes. We simply didn’t have the personnel to play the way we tried to play.

So where are we now?

Arteta has spent all his fan capital. Boos at halftime isn’t cool but that’s football in 2021. Fans want to see wins, Arteta hasn’t been delivering them, and it doesn’t look like he has it in the locker right now. We’ll go into the international break rock bottom and that will be a painful week or so. His only hope after that is that the players aren’t broken by a brutal City spanking, and that the players coming back in can pivot the season right away.

Beat Norwich and Spurs, who were dreadful against Wolves, and you can slowly start to pivot the negativity. Lose those two games and it’s pretty clear the season is over before it’s started and Arteta will be out way sooner than he should be. Football is about winning games, if you don’t win enough at a club like Arsenal, you’ll be out on your arse and we’ll move onto the next manager.

Still, at least the next manager has some good players to work with. Sambi Lokonga looks an excellent signing, his passing range is a breath of fresh air. ESR looks like he’s going to go from strength to strength when he gets his more experienced teammates back in the mixer.

Those points aside, it’s bleak out there… not all of it is on Arteta, but the bad transfer decision of last year bit him hard again, and it’s hard to avert your eyes from Soares and Mari and who welcomed them to the club.

Right, we did a video, just me and Matt. Enjoy it. See you in the comments.

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Wengaball

“WE, think that’s the right framing to look at the replacement for Arteta.

Who can deal with a budget?
Who has experience working with misfits?
Who can command respect of players at the highest level?
Who can play the Arsenal way?”

Arsene Wenger 😉

Mr Serge

GonsterousAugust 23, 2021 14:43:24
Terrible use of the budget. Jesus, 100m spent and we are going back wards.White 50m (will get replaced by a 2m defender in holding)
Ramsdale 25m (taken to the cleaners, with that deal)
Sambi 18m (same ability as willock, as far as I’m concerned)

What utter tripe about white and lokongo
RAMSDALE as well as we don’t know if he will be good
If you don’t think the other two are a massive jump on holding and willock though I cant t help you

WengerEagle

DivineSherlock

Luis Campos is currently out of a job. Responsible for Lille and Monaco’s recruitment these past 8 years.

Mr Serge

I would take gasperini in a heartbeat WE

Graham the 1989 way is the arsenal way we should add a couple of arsenal legends to the board and hire an arsenal legend as a dof to show the new board what it means to be The Arsenal

Guns of Hackney

Peter

‘Aesthetically pleasing’. You have to admit, until Arsene, we were a more successful Wimbledon. We were cloggers but really good at it.

But yes, since 96…we are/were the best football playing side in the Prem.

Mr Serge

WengerEagleAugust 23, 2021 15:32:26
Ross Barkley is still a good player who would improve us. He wrecked us at the Emirates last season with Villa.I doubt that the Chavs would even be against the loan as we are so non-existent of a threat.

My villa Mate does not rate him says he did not move them forward
From what I have seen of him no thanks

TR7

JP

Zappacosta getting sold on a permanent deal.

Guns of Hackney

Peter

The comments are heavy on the food analogies. What has happened? Is everyone a chef all of a sudden?

But you’re correct. We are a footballistic side and should play good football. It’s actually quite strange how NOBODY plays agricultural football anymore. Sure, some roughhouse a bit but generally very club plays on the floor.

I think we may have backed the wrong horse on this one. Arteta has let everyone down and goes to show that rookie managers do need some first hand experience. Not just as a coach.

That’s why pencils have rubbers.

Habesha Gooner

“Lose those two games and it’s pretty clear the season is over before it’s started and Arteta will be out way sooner than he should be. Football is about winning games, if you don’t win enough at a club like Arsenal, you’ll be out on your arse and we’ll move onto the next manager.” Pedro, He will be out way sooner than he should be???? He should have been fired last season, Twice. One before that Chelsea home game and One after that Villareal game. He needs to go. Whatever the team he picks, we rarely play well. There is… Read more »

G

‘’ Irrespective of the 1996-2006 glory years, I’d take the 1971 way or the 1989 way..Wouldn’t you?

Definitely go with Wenger early years..not even close

DivineSherlock

WengerEagle

Campos + Gasperini . Absolute dream team .

TR7

Even if Arteta gets sacked, it will be Vinai and Edu leading the hunt for a new manager. I don’t think two of them are smart or knowledgeable enough to find the right manager for us. Ideally we should form a committee of ex-Arsenal players to find a new manager when Arteta gets sacked.

Dissenter

Mr Serge
Did you watch Brighton last season and go. ..”I wish I had Ben White at Arsenal”

Holding has played in cup finals for Arsenal and marked out very good attackers. He’s the senior defender on the squad and Ben White is yet to prove himself.

What has Ben White ever done?
Get selected because TAA was injured and Tomori was nullified for COVID restrictions?

Dissenter

Our best bet is to have a very good manager conveniently out of a job by the time Arteta gets fired.

A manager desperate to return top coaching.

Guns of SF

TR7

Edu needs to go with Arteta

He has shown gross incompetence too

Matt

Pedro

It still sounds like you are trying to excuse Arteta for a lot of the blame. So it’s other people’s fault for giving him too much power to make decisions? It was still HIM that made those decisions, they were not made for him, so whether he should have been allowed to make them or not becomes somewhat irrelevant.

He made them, they were wrong (mostly), so that is on him.

Mr Serge

Diss you can’t judge a player on one game if potter and bielsa think he is a player I am good to wait and see with my own eyes and not judge on one game
Remember pires when he joined how shit he was ?
Players need time to settle this is not FIFA
It’s not the players it’s the manager
You get a proper one in and he will show us

Daniel Altos

https://twitter.com/pepe_19i/status/1429579606059851780?s=19

Look am not saying pepe is a world class winger but this awesome thread shows us the problems doesnt it?No one.is making runs at all.Notice how Mane was having a Pepe kind of a game before he finally scored?? Poor touches, poor misses, etc, but the thing is Liverpool create so many chances, so when Mane misses, it doesn’t get to him, because he knows the chances will eventually come, Unlike at Arsenal.Said it since, for our attackers every chance is a high pressure moment. Definitely not good at all.

Mr Serge

Tr7 edu would go on the same day as Arteta I am sure of it

Guns of Hackney

Peter Absolute power, corrupts absolutely. I’ve laxed on my classics but that may be Cicero or someone like that. I don’t think he can turn this one around now. The scenes at Highbury are now irreversible. He’s done. After Arsene, the crowd have seen what waiting can do, and they are not waiting anymore. Everyone has a billionaire now. Everyone is playing wicked football. Everyone is doing well in transfers, young managers, modern management etc. They can see it. We have to judge immediately. And I believe we have. Mikel does not have the gravitas that crazy Arsene had so… Read more »

Dissenter

Pedro
“Guns, he has. He started so well. Part of it is on him for letting things get out of control, part is on the club for not creating the right environment for him to succeed in.”

It’s all on Arteta
The club has given him everything to succeed, more than hey ever gave anyone else
Sin ce when did Arsenal start signing assistant coaches for throw-ins?

It’s is Arteta’s narcissistic personality flaws that bedeviled him, that power grab was 100% on Arteta. He couldn’t resist it because that is who he is.

What “right environment” are you referring to?

Champagne Charlie

Le Grove is at its predictable level of hysteria and derision, boring cunts that are rarely ever here find a voice to come and have a pop at those who are far more frequent. The irony.

Find the whole echo chamber thing remarkably dull, and it’s no surprise anyone that isn’t vehemently making personal attacks at Arteta is ran away from posting. Dickheads making lists of posters that represent the ‘other side’, like wtf is that about?

Quite something what you read when you take a step back.

Habesha Gooner

Gasperini, he would be great. We won’t pull him from atalanta though. There are a lot of managers we could use as care takers who are out of a job now. Then going for someone Ten Hag in the summer is what makes sense. I would love Conte right now though.

Favre, Valverde, Rudy Garcia, Paulo Fonseca all experienced managers who are free agents now. There are less glamorous managers like Frank De Boer, Villas boas and Eddie howe. Arteta though isn’t it. We will finish 8th or there abouts again. So why waste a full season.

Dissenter

Mr Serge
Holding is a better defender than Ben White. He is more proven and accomplished than anything Ben White has ever done
Ben White may be better with all the progressive play BS, but there’s nothing special about his defending. Brighton didn’t even bother to but a replacement, that should tell you something.

Matt

Nothing like someone to come on here after 200 odd comments and be the first to start calling people cunts…

Guns of SF

Habesha and all, Fire Arteta now. Its is not too late to save this season. However, stick with him and its going to end sooner than you think. Given his man management style, I see him not being able to lift the team out of the doldrums. Heck, look at Auba. He looks shattered still, bar a few quick runs. A world class striker, who plays like his nuts were cut off. Sad There is a lot that he has done and he never takes responsiblity, outside a few media soundbites that sounds like he takes full responsibility. It is… Read more »

DivineSherlock

Habesha

I would rather not take a punt again on rookies , rather have experienced pros who knows the mess we’re in and how to effectively deal with it . Gasperini would obviously improve the football and the resources at his disposal would be greater here than at Atalanta. Josh Kroenke better have him at the top of his list and not just Brendan Rodgers (who I wouldnt mind tbh)

Zacharse

Man this team is doing exactly what i didnt want to see. Just bummed at this point. I definitely wanted to see arteta succeed and get us playing fast and smart again BUT i’m starting to agree with that comment about him being a Jonah. I think he deserves a lot more slack for the chaos surrounding his tenure so far. For example, like pedro mentioned the signings of marí (who i definitely thought would be better than this) and soares. Theres an argument to be made that these signings and even Willian- might have been out of his hands… Read more »

Sotongunner

Pedro talking the “Arsenal way”now. Agree with Graham would take the 89/91 teams or Cup wins mid 90s over this shower of shit. The” Arsenal way” lost all credibility when wenger disappeared up his own arse and we appointed a surly, out of his depth novice. Arteta out all dayong and time to find a new “Arsenal way”.

Pierre

There is the usual over reaction on here. I’m no fan of Arteta but he hasn’t been dealt a very good hand so far this season, and I do think this should be taken into consideration. Losing Aubamayang and Lacazette to covid, plus losing Eddie with an ankle problem is not the best way to go onto a new season.. Martinelli , for whatever reason, is not good enough to lead the line, Balogun is a better option but he is still finding his feet. Losing Gabriel, Partey and white was a blow, maybe Arteta had plans to play 3… Read more »

MidwestGun

Peds… you are one optimistic dude.. all I got to say… credit for that I guess. We were missing 2 starters. Partey and Auba/Laca. Auba played by the way… hard to notice I know as he didn’t do anything. You can’t count White because.. Holding started all last season and honestly was our best Cb last season too. not Luiz. I guess you are counting Right Back… but is Chambers a starter? and Ode is now our most creative player? That’s a stretch. That’s why I’m depressed.. basically the same players we had last season. except Loko. and he was… Read more »

zacharse

ouch mid. too true.

Gazza

Arteta should be sacked just for the decision to keep playing Xhaka every week.

Even if we apparently have a better record with him in the team…he needs to be a squad player at most or sold

Nelson

Here are two screen shots of the two goals conceded yesterday. Both cases, Saka was day dreaming in the midfield while James was all alone on the right side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYEiK1PVFOU

For me, the problem is not the 4 2 3 1 formation. When we lost the ball, the players were not coming back to do their job.

Paolo

Midwest Gun

Could not agree more. And to top it all off Arsenal.com run an article from our “captain” of the match, who happens to be one of the most hated players in our history, the day after another hapless / embarrassing performance in an Arsenal shirt.

Laughable.

Keeping Xhaka at the club is a sackable offence alone.

Ernest Reed

“2 games in , 2 very dodgy refereeing decisions already and the performance yesterday from the ref was obviously biased against Arsenal.”

Oh do take a very long walk off the Untold Pier already Pierre, your shtick is beyond tiring.

MidwestGun

Paolo-
Oh yes.. I forgot yep… when Stan Kroenke is quoted as Xhaka being vital to the team for balance and stability .. that’s the kiss of death. Because I’m 100% sure if you lined 5 players up and told Stan to pick Xhaka out of a lineup he would fail.

So somebody told him to say that …. *cough* Edu *cough*

raptora

Pierre, We just suffered our 20th defeat in 60 games under Arteta. Surely there is an excuse/excuses for each and every single one of the defeats. Not only at Arsenal. Lampard was full of excuses, Neville was full of excuses, van Gaal is full of excuses, Mourinho is full of excuses, bloody Pep and Klopp are full of excuses every time they lose as they are as bitter losers as it gets. For every defeat, there is always an excuse lined up, it’s how it goes. But 20 defeats in 60 games… It tells the whole story. Whatever single or… Read more »

Matt

Arsenal are the masters of not being able to read the room.

One of the most hated players in the clubs history, extend his contract and chuck him the armband (again). A notoriously absent owner who all fans know couldn’t give two shits about Arsenal and he decides to chip in and pen a piece eulogising about previously said hated player.

I think the upcoming Amazon piece will appear in the comedy section rather than documentary.

Terraloon

Pierre 2 games in , 2 very dodgy refereeing decisions already and the performance yesterday from the ref was obviously biased against Arsenal. We can’t keep making excuses. I know many looking through Gooners glasses feel that one goal should have been disallowed and a penalty given but very few pundits or come to that ex referees feel they were dodgy decisions. I don’t take Ref watch as being the gospel but here’s what Gallagher said DERMOT’S VERDICT: As soon as I saw this, I thought ‘penalty’. When I saw the replay, I thought, ‘Maybe not’. I look at it… Read more »

Marco

Kurt Zouma going for 25 m .. wow 😯 I much rather have him than Ben White for 50 m

Valentin

Arteta is just the more control freak Spanish inspiration for Ted Lasso.

Marco

We may lose our one and only world class player to Man city .. permanently relegating us to mediocrity !!

TR7

Pierre

There’s no over reaction. It’s not about the Chelsea game or the Brentford game. We have been lacklustre in both attack and defense for almost 12 months now. Nothing that happened in the two games comes as a surprise.

Valentin

Marco,

In two years time when KdB will leave ManCity, they will just turn around and get ESR.
Despite being a gooner at heart, two years of being move around to appease Ødegaard, he will jump at the opporty to win silverware. You just need to look at Lane to see the lure.

If Arteta is not sacked soon and is allowed to further cement his power with another transfer window next summer, the Kroenke’s will have destroyed all the good will of this club.

Negative Nigel

Mass hysteria.Love it.Relegation stares us in the face( after 2 matches)injuries galore,clueless tactics,the sack .Well for le Govers it’s inevitable.Almost like the good ol bad ol days of Wenger out.Ahhhh.The memories.Seems like a lifetime.Conte in,ASAP.My sorry is if Conte f** ks up.But he wouldn’t .would he? I say we’ll get Rogers.put your house on it.We’re in for a right ol rogering……..

Valentin

TR7, I even dreading Wednesday’s game against WestBrom. I can foresee the humiliating elimination and the bullying of our CBs. Knowing Arteta, he w’ be using our first team players, so he won’t even have the excuse of using youth team players. At least with Wenger, I was looking to those domestic Cup. That allowed to see the academy players in competitive environment. Even when we were poor, we were entertaining. Here, I fear Arteta will again try to shithouse his way to an undeserved qualification. Or that WestBrom will physically dominate us and make us an ever more laughing… Read more »

KAY Boss

Arterta is a washed up dirty linen. I can’t see a way he’s turning this mess around. As I mentioned in a previous post, Mancini, Conte, Ten Hagg and to an extent Luis Enrique would be primed for the Arsenal job. Graham Potter won’t be bad either. Pedro, please in all humility kindly admit Arterta has been a gargantuan failure. Continuity with Arterta leads us to the abbis of perpetual also runs. The gap between the big guns is widening and we are gradually loosening grip on our status as a big gun. Just can’t stand the constant trolling of… Read more »

Mr Serge

Champagne CharlieAugust 23, 2021 16:10:10
Le Grove is at its predictable level of hysteria and derision, boring cunts that are rarely ever here find a voice to come and have a pop at those who are far more frequent. The irony.

Gotta love this post lol
Well said Charlie everyone is entitled to their opinion whether agreed upon or not

I do find the hysteria funny but some people make it personal
Which is not on
Saying this I have switched camps and
I would be delighted if we could get in a proper manager in asap

MidwestGun

I guess this is the so called vision lineup? minus the fabled injuries galore.
sort of a 3-4-2-1
———–Auba/Laca/Eddie

___________ESR/Marti ___ODE

___Tierney–Loko/Xhaka___Partey___Saka/Pepe

______Gabi____Holding ___White

______Leno/Rams

Maybe I’m blind but I just cant see this as a taking us to the promised land turnaround. unless Ode.. Saka and ESR start scoring out of their minds.

Sly

Big club fans should overreact and become ‘hysterical’ at losses to poor results irrespective of who we play against The manner of the loss is concerning A lot comes down to how the team was set up and how they reacted to adversity We’ve seen poor responses through preseason and the first two games imo this squad as it is can do better I like the vision of a youthful spine in the rebuild Arteta however has shown than he doesn’t have the nous to lead this team moving forward Moving on from him should and must be the next… Read more »

Peckobill

Val
Even if we do beat West Brom it’ll be a bland shithousing with few chances and a small number of shots . There’s an argument to be made that they are actually playing better football than us . To be honest I can’t think of a side who isn’t playing better than us at the moment

SAGG

Stop the excuses.

This season is a couple of games away of become the WORST start of the seasom EVER.

So you cant tell me that we havent had injured and ill players in the last 100+ years. This shitshow needs to end NOW not in two or three months.

S23

I was expecting a volley of abuse at work from the Chelsea fans,but they just felt sorry for us and saw it as shooting Bambi. We are falling well behind the other Premier League London clubs when it comes to fans. There were a few positives from yesterday,Lokonga and Tavares look good,Holding is much better than Mari and the fans let Arteta know where he stands with them. Mari vs Lukaku was like Senderos vs Drogba of yesteryear and Arteta should have forseen this. He is hopelessly out of his depth and at the back of his mind,he must be… Read more »

Leedsgunner

Pedro

You only get accused of excuse making because you are excuse making. By backing Arteta, even via the back door you are selling up your credibility.

Ask yourself is Arteta really worth it? Do you really want to kill what’s left of your credibility?

Negative Nigel

Hands up all those for a Rodgering?

Nelson

Val

Don’t worry. We’ll have Aaron Ramsdale in goal against WBA.

Mr Serge

S23 I know right the only people that abused me today was spurs fans I expect it from them as I give them no mercy 😂

Dissenter

Eddie is going to get sold.
He has one year left and won’t extend

S23

Dear Mr Serge,
those lot have nothing to crow about,we know how their story will end this season.
(I hope)!!

Mics

Losing his job way sooner than he should have? Surely this is Pedro taking the piss. Arteta should have gotten the sack at least three distinct times. He’s lost a full third of the games he’s coached. He’s lost more home games in eighteen months than Wenger did in his final six years. I don’t know what evidence at all supports this idea that Arteta is a wunderkind coach who just needs time. He’s had time and he’s had money and he’s had control. And we look like an eighth place at best team. The tactics are horrid. The players… Read more »

Graham62

The last two games have nothing to do with wanting Arteta out. This is an accumulation of many many things over a long period. Agreed, things have conspired against him in recent weeks but given all of that, why is it that those players chosen look like they’ve never played together before? Why is it that these same players look disinterested and flat? Why is it that there is no fluidity in anything we do? Why is it that players continue to make the same mistakes over and over again? Why is it that some players (GX) are rewarded with… Read more »

Valentin

Peckobill,

I am so numb by this predictable non sense football, but I have not yet reached the detachment stage of one of my former colleague. He is now betting on Arsenal losing to at least have the comfort of making money in this time of misery.

He forgot about the WestBrom game and advise me to bet early on a ManCity victory with at least 5 goals scored or +3 goal differences. He reckon that by next weekend, ManCity may send us to the bottom of the league.

MD-Gunner

@Pedro “but reality is, that this was always going to be a nightmare day out” Didn’t have to be this way but is was because of the clueless ones choice. Most of the MOBs here wanted to see a back three. It was Tets choice to send Saliba out on loan and don’t tell us that with the CBs available for this game Saliba wouldn’t have been the best choice. That is fully on the clueless one the nightmare was of his own making. P. Morgan in a Spuds shirt says it all. The MOBs expect 2 to 4 points… Read more »

NORG

Meanwhile back at the ranch the Kroenke’s dressed up as Turkeys have just voted for Christmas by rubber stamping the contract extension of the crab, Xhaka.

Unless they take the necessary remedial action required their huge investment could soon be spiralling down in value.

Sid

Tierney and Martinelli to replace Partey on the treatment table,
Who will replace Tierney/Martinelli on the treatment table?
a) Odegaard
b)Chambers
c) both the above

Champagne Charlie

“more people click on my twitter profile than visit this site“

Strong 70% of that is Banford wearing the F5 key out.

Frost

“Granit Xhaka’s agent, Marco Cenolli, to CMITTV: “Granit feels sorry for not having achieved to work with Mourinho. Arsenal and Roma talked almost every day, but they couldn’t find an agreement.” Via @eleonora_trotta.”

I can’t believe we’re playing a guy whose agent says was keen to leave arsenal. Heck rookie even made him captain. Clueless manager we have. Non negotiables my foot.

Meanwhile anybody seeing Saliba bossing it at Marseille? Lol guess who decided Mari & Holding were better.

Sid

Are Arsenal players in the red at the begining of the season?

Receding Hairline

RH, Emery therapy sessions are elsewhere today. You need to get over him Pedro Emery was rightly sacked for under performing, we should keep those same standards when judging our coaches/,managers. Every manager has mitigating circumstances for every loss, including playing badly. You alluded in today’s post that if Arteta were to be sacked it would be too soon, I put up those stats to show it would actually be late not soon, many have pointed out he should have been sacked twice over already, his stats are mediocre, there is no hiding from that. You cannot go from that… Read more »

salparadisenyc

There is a god.

Br0wnie

Holding seems adequate as right CB. Does anyone think it would be worth putting Ben White in the right back position with his ball handling capabilities and pace? He couldn’t be worse than Cedric, Bellerin or Chambers could he?

Guns of SF

Pedro, I agree with you on Edu, he is shit. However, he does not train the team, do planning, tactics, selction etc. that is your boy. Also, player recruitment. He is same level as Edu, so has some say in who to get. In fact, all our players have been Arteta picks since he arrived. So, when does accountability start for him? Sounds like more excuses. We knew we were missing 4-5 players. So what? Happens to a lot of teams. A good coach would pick a different lineup, and formation. Instead he sticks with 4231 not knowing ( or… Read more »

Receding Hairline

“RH, agree, Arteta has 10 games to show what he has after the international break.”

He has had 60 games already to show “what he has”…what have you seen that makes you think oh that 10 after the surrender bat City is what should tell us what he has really got?

MidwestGun

Pretty sure Bamford is over on the Man U. fan boards… supporting his “second” favorite team.

You can find him there under his handle.. OGSLoviano.

Receding Hairline

After the international break we have Norwich, Burnley, Spurs, Brighton, Palace,Villa, Leicester, Watford, Liverpool and Newcastle

That’s the ten, how many points from the 30 will show what he’s really got?

Will you be interested in the performance also or are we talking getting wins any which way just to keep the messiah at the club?

What exactly will show you he has got something?

TR7

That Arteta couldn’t respond to James and Alonso getting acres of space on the flanks is absolutely flabbergasting. How can people with coaching badges not spot such obvious tactical flaws in their set up ?

salparadisenyc

Very curious to see the solution to right back, we’ve got Hector who clearly wants out after a decade with club from youth academy. Soares, AMN with Chambers able to slot it.

If we’re honest none really level we want to be at and absolutely needs to be addressed in this window.

Guns of SF

Tuchel- tactics that they used against us. Good vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-qqNUhutOw

TR7

Fabrizio : Corinthians have made an official bid to Willian, confirmed. He wants to leave Arsenal since May and he’s now considering Corinthians proposal. 🇧🇷 #AFC #Corinthians

Willian has never been in talks with Al Ahli – priority still to European clubs, but Corinthians are now pushing.

Champagne Charlie

Pedro

That’ll be why he’s infiltrated the twitch streams, besotted.

Btw think you need to offer a formal apology to myself for the tepid Ruben Neves slander early summer, he’s an underrated footballer. Should’ve pushed harder for that one perhaps.

Josip Skoblar

If you want inspiring man-management, appoint Zidane to the Arsenal job.

Guns of SF

I hope the exodus of deadwood happens this week.
We still need to bring in a proper RB and CM and Striker…
if we can get 2 that would really help us

I say RB and CM…. we can deputize in our striker department.
Our mids need to do much more and become scoring threats.
So far, nothing as usual

MidwestGun

Sal_ After thinking about it.. I think there is division on what they want to do.. 2 ideas that aren’t very compatible and we already spent 50 mill on one of them.. I think we got White to play on the right side of a back 3… hence why we have ignored the rightback position and kept AMN who can play a wingback. But then…on the other hand all preseason and first 2 games we have played a back 4 and a weak back 4 at that. and our tactics have all been devised around a double pivot. it’s strange… Read more »

Soham

Spurs negotiating for Adama Traore ! As luck would have it he might face Arsenal for the NLD

Guns of SF

Mid
I think we got White as a Luiz ball playing CB, which for some reason Mike seems to see as a priority.
We over paid. No doubt.
Nothing against White, but this reeks of negligence again.

There are so many players out there we could get to help our woeful mids, and RB.

I truly wonder what the folks over there are smoking… some bad shit

Mulerise14

Tets thinks himself a good stategist- which I don’t think he is-after overthinking issues,he is wont to wait till it is too late before he sub…. Must he use the d 4-2-3-1? seeing the issue with some players availability,he could have played 3-4-3.playing Tavares Tierney and Saka would have sorted our left side.whats the update on Partey?if there is any hope at all this season,he must be made to partner Sambi,plays Ødegaard in d hole,Saka right and ESR left,and whoever amongst our numerous strikers that have his mojo back strikes.and kneel down to pray that Tets doesn’t confuse the 3rd… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Middy

Been something like 11 or 12 transfers since Arteta arrived, and only 2 have been attackers (Odegaard, Willian).

Very basic, but it’s quite clear where the oversight has come from my POV. Fact we have the trio of average (Auba, Laca, Pepe) still in tact going 3 seasons together is near sackable in itself.

We’ve the most expensive front three that can’t play together in the league. Quite the achievement.

MidwestGun

CC-
Your not wrong about that.. As I posted in the lineup above… even with everyone healthy and in the lineup.. where are the goals coming from?

Valentin

Midwest, Arteta is on the record stating that he wants to play a Back 4 at the back. The back 3 was a temporary measure to stabilise the team. Clearly his preferred formation is 4-2-3-1, so all the talk of 3 at the back is just a red herring. I just think that he and his staff just overlooked White aerial weakness and got caught when the opposition coaches and every pundits made clear that he cannot play in a Back 4. He will persist with White in a back 4 and will stubbornly die on that hill. BTW, Ben… Read more »

MidwestGun

Anyhow.. I think today is optimal beach day.. take my mind off of the current mess.

MidwestGun

Val- Yes… to a point… again it’s like they had two different systems in mind and didn’t fully commit to either one with transfers. If we are going to play 4 at the back then get a damn fullback and a Centerback who can put away their crosses when they bomb forward and launch them in. Get midfielders who are more mobile instead of renewing Xhaka so we can cover the channels. in a back 4. Anyhow.. been covered on here a lot. At this point I wish I was more apathetic about it.. but I’ve been supporting Arsenal for… Read more »