Well, here we are again, mulling over players we’re not sure we have a chance with.
This morning, everyone is thrashing about in the water because the choice is apparently Odegaard vs Maddison.
Now, I still find the idea of James Maddison a bit nuts. £70m plus whatever a player of his calibre earns… feels a bit of a stretch. But what can’t be denied is he’d be an absolute powerhouse of a signing. We’re absolutely awful from dead-ball situations, he delivers massive amounts of chances from setpieces. He’s a brilliant binder on the pitch, he creates chances, progresses the ball well, and last season he started adding more goals to his game. He was the difference between Leicester being in the title-chasing pack, to finishing 5th again.
Now you’ll remember last week.
‘Oooohhhh, bit pricey, right?’
Skip forward to this morning. Martin Odegaard, our primary target at the start of the summer, is apparently going to be fishing for a move back to the carpet for about half the price.
‘He’s shit, no end product’
Now, a few things we need to be a little wary of here… the player loves Real Madrid. There was a moment a few years ago when Cesc Fabregas had the chance to come back to London because Wenger was sniffing around him. Now, I don’t know if I have this perfectly narrated… but United were circling and Wenger didn’t want him to go there. He waited, but in the end, Cesc used our interest to get assurances at Barca, he stayed another year, then moved to Chelsea after we’d secured Mesut Ozil.
Time is running out in the window, we cannot be allowing Martin to rattle the commitment cage, then find ourselves up shit creek without a second creator again.
On the Norwegians talent profile, please, get away from me with ‘he’s no good’ rubbish. That is such a drossy statement.
Things to remind yourself of:
He’s 22 years old. An absolute baby in terms of the position he’s playing. There is still a lot of space for him to grow as a player and a leader. Where was Jack Grealish at that age? In the Championship scoring 5 goals and landing 5 assists with Aston Villa with big questions over whether he had the right mentality to succeed. Where was James Maddison? With Norwich in the Championship about the bang. Where was Serge Gnabry? Bumming around in Premier League 2 about to get moved out of Arsenal to Germany as a massive flop that wasn’t right in the head.
Players get better. Odegaard is a very good player. He’d played about 14 minutes of football in 6 months before he joined the Premier League. It takes time to adapt to a new culture, to a new fitness regime, and a new style of coaching. He still delivered a good showing. 90th percentile for progressive carries, 86th percentile for progressive passes, 96th percentile for passes attempted, and 98th for passes completed… in a totally broken squad.
Give him a system that doesn’t require him to drop so deep to force things to happen with players like Ben White and Lokonga declogging our slow play and aversion to playing through the middle and you have someone that can really find a next level.
It’s also worth referencing his season with Sociedad where he had a better run into a team that wasn’t on its knees like Arsenal were at Christmas.
Odegaard created 62 chances that season when he was 20 years old. Last season, the biggest chance creator in La Liga was Messi with 77. He is so far from average it is painful. If we can’t land Maddison, then we wouldn’t go far wrong with Odegaard. If you want to land a glimpse of what he could offer us next season, rewatch the Brighton game.
Honestly, I cannot fathom some of the chatter that goes on… Maddison is too expensive, let’s unlock European talent. Odegaard? Nah, not enough end product. Pick a lane. You want now talent, it’ll cost £70m, you want to take a chance on talent, it’ll look like Odegaard. Neither player would be a bad option.
Young players get better, especially those adapting from foreign countries. People complaining about our lack of goals seem to forget that up until matchday 14, we scored under a goal a game (0.85 per game), after we added 2 creators (ESR/Odegaard), we were only outscored by United and City (1.79 per game). \
Imagine what both of them could do in a more balanced team with a captain that has his head in the game?
Right, that’s me done, see you in the comments.
Don’t know about Maddison, but Odegaard gives something Arteta is looking for at all times, control of the game, game management from midfield.
Who cares? Arsenal were garbage last season and with the “signings” we have thus far signed I don’t see that changing at all next season. Maddison, if he had any sense would stay at Leicester and avoid Arsenal at all costs. Arsenal is just the place you go when you want to earn shed loads of money and are not interested in challenging for anything. Same for Odegaard – if he was that talented he would be fighting for his place at Real Madrid instead of talking about being open to a move to Arsenal where he would languish mid… Read more »
Chances are the new Covid variants could wreak havoc in the upcoming season so let’s pay a king’s ransom for one player who clearly doesn’t give a shit about PL clubs Covid protocols.
Cool.
Odegaard is the new injury prone Ozil
The most important metric is what does Arteta want?
Arteta wants Odegaard above all other options so the club should pull all the stops to make it happen
Maddison and odegaard are both bang average players that will have decent periods throughout a season at 5th to 10th place teams but will never hit the top level. Arsenal are now in that category of club along with the likes of Everton and Leicester.
That’s why we are buying mid table players like white, tavares and lokonga. We are basically the London Everton
https://www.90min.com/posts/arsenal-transfers-james-maddison-martin-odegaard-comparison
Pedro making waves in the fake journo community
“”””””””””the Real Madrid loanee never really got into the game on Thursday night. Did not offer the quality needed on the ball in the right-side channel and failed to create anything of note before making way for Gabriel Martinelli. Played no key pass “”””””””””
Lest we forget,
his leadership was deeply behind the scenes
GGG
My shit is top shelf u couldnt afford it. I’m a regenerative soil guy and the weed i grow in the back yard would probably help u understand what we’re talking about lol
Sorry Peds, but it’s clearly Aouar / Maddison over Odegaard all day long. Odegaard is a good player but he’s not a game changer and is far too one footed.
Bissouma or, at a push Neves, as Locatelli is not going to happen.
We’ve got a quicker and more progressive version of Odegaard in Smith Rowe.
West Ham and Brighton were the only two games Ode played well in. Largely anonymous against most if not all good teams. Can’t believe Arsenal fans who have seen so many great midfielders during Wenger era are salivating over Ode.
twitch.tv/le_grove
Madison is good & odegard is also good,
But as for me,I prefer odegard,because he’s a young player as well as a foreigner.
English players always find it difficult in the midfield during this era..
And again ,Madison is an injury player.
”Add his injuries the list of high wage demands , high transfer price, and iffy conduct ……….and the verdict is simple—stay away.” He’s on 110k a week at Leicester. If we offered him somewhere in the ballpark of 150k-200k a week he would come running. Which isn’t outrageous money in the modern game for a player that would be levels better than some of our highest earners like Willian and would instantly be a top 3-4 player for us. Transfer price will be eye-watering, that much can agree on. I would probably prefer Aouar on a lower fee but if… Read more »
TR7
Not salivating over any of them , actually. Simply trying to avoid high cost players with possible character flaws.
What was that biggest knock on Arsenal squad building over the last 5-10 years?
That’s right, bringing in players who wouldn’t go through walls for the shirt………but now posters apparently want the likes of Aouar ( and his brother) , and a Maddison.
I say , fuck that.
If Arteta was linked to hoppy Johnson the one legged one armed footballer , Pedro would post why he’s so valuable for Arsenal and some rubbish stat making him look good
Martin also started the comeback vs the tiny totts.
if two seasons is a reasonable argument [and I believe it is] then two quarter seasons for odergaard is also a reasonable argument before the international break he was quite promising and after the break he was not effective and easily pushed off the ball we need someone robust as well as creative in that position someone I think it was Raptor recommended Dumfries as a Tierney equivalent for RB — at 18 million seems plausible I prefer the other gaard — Damsgaard the Danish midfielder — for 30 million these two move us forward and are much better use… Read more »
Thank you and goodnightJuly 27, 2021 18:21:09
If Arteta was linked to hoppy Johnson the one legged one armed footballer , Pedro would post why he’s so valuable for Arsenal and some rubbish stat making him look good
And posters like you would rubbish any player that we sign because arteta signed him
Even if we signed a peak Messi we would get he is to short and what’s that haircut about
Most of these players will probably have characteristics that will be considered a flaw to somebody. I’m not interested in signing a humanitarian and unless they’re a real nasty piece of work, I’m not sure I care that much.
We need good players on the pitch and Aouar & Maddison are good players who will add a lot to this team.
if two seasons * two half seasons pre and post Christmas* is a reasonable argument [and I believe it is] then two quarter seasons for odergaard is also a reasonable argument
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Ode has yet to even get a sniff at Real. That Does show the depth of talent available, but more likely its that Ode is simply not good enough to make that particular grade. Thats a warning flag to me.
If you are asking if Arsenal has.a choice of the two, for me its Madison because he’s proven and a game changer, regardless of cost. Analysis of Ode is worthless because its being done in a tiny vacuum, whereas Madison’s body of work speaks for itself.
Just me but the obsession with Ode will only result in heartbreak.
Tom
‘bringing in players who wouldn’t go through walls for the shirt’
Commitment without adequate quality doesn’t amount to much. Not that Ode bleeds Arsenal btw, he still wants to excel at RM. Arsenal are his safe fall back option. Moreover there’s nothing to suggest Maddison won’t give his all in case we sign him.
NWM makes a fair point about Maddison’s underwhelming assist numbers. His other creative numbers are quite high so for whatever reason he rarely put the final pass into Jamie Vardy or Iheanacho. Low assist total wouldn’t scare me off personally as somebody like Hleb used to have low assist numbers as well as Samir Nasri. I think that Maddison’s all-round game is very good, he’s not a player that only comes alive in the final third. He can drop deep into midfield and progress the play through the centre. Shoots well off of either foot, passes really well, can beat… Read more »
Really nice topic Almunia (and a perfect antidote to Odegaard vs Maddison). I want the impossible there – a hybrid of the two. I never like players who sign for us that appear to be complete knobs – Maddison gives me the wobbles for some reason. Don’t sweat the sexist angle to this and let your thoughts go. That said I’ll be surprised to see Judie Dench on your list! As a side issue, you should take a look at what’s known as the Bechdel Test which is a pretty handy tool for judging sexism in the scripting and production… Read more »
Wayne Rooney has more than proven himself to be a first class knob over the years, he still did the business for United for a decade plus.
I’m sick of us having weak-willed, vanilla son-in laws. I’d welcome a bit of a cocky wanker like Maddison or Aouar myself.
Don’t care much about number of assists. Maddison looks the part whenever I see him play. A very well rounded solid player.
“Most of these players will probably have characteristics that will be considered a flaw to somebody. I’m not interested in signing a humanitarian and unless they’re a real nasty piece of work, I’m not sure I care that much.“ Except we’re not talking about not having enough charitable donations as a percentage of your income issues here are we. No one expects or wants footballers to be altar boys but when a player has a wrap of being difficult or maybe a bit lazy in France , chances are he’s gonna be the same in England too. Wenger wanted Suarez… Read more »
The real reason Stan sticks with Arteta – Mikel is collecting his spare hair clippings that will be put together to shape a new ‘syrup’. Teeth next.
This is still Arsenal we are talking about right? So this is a false choice… The choice is do nothing or do something.
We either do absolutely nothing and roll with ESR and probably Willian as backup.
Or we sign one of Odegaard or Maddison. I know which one is more likely.
Good point mid. If we signed two of the three were talkkng about chances are willian would take off anyway
Angela Basset, julianne moore, Keke Palmer
Wenger Eagle
You took a real chance there with your last post. Imagine if you had accidentally posted after the k in the 7th word of your last sentence…..
You’d be getting a different type of correspondence.
Varane to United subjected to medical, that was relatively straight forward
Chelsea close to an agreement for Jules Kounde as well
Kroenkephobe, I posted mine at 16.07 on this thread, Val had listed his so I responded in kind. Your list is mad. I only know Fonda and Moore( she would be 7th on mine btw). Never saw twin peaks. Can’t rem Karen Allen though I’ve obviously seen ROTLA . Is Sybill Shepherd the actress from moonlighting with Bruce Willis, she was a fine woman alright. Val ‘s list is at the end of the previous thread,some great choices there also. I was showing my wife your tune from yesterday, she thinks it’s brilliant ,all I ever get is a scolding… Read more »
Sid,
I mustn’t watch enough films/ tv, I hadn’t heard of kroenkephobe’s choices nor have I heard of Keke Palmer. 2 more needed. Your first two are quality.
I think both MO and ‘M10 would be good signings, but if I think about ESR and Willoch it would make more sense to me of sending Willoch out on loan. Get Ramsey on loan for this season then for next season lett ESR and Willoch battle it out for the CAM role if Willoch has success with Newcastle like last season. They will both be good enough a year from now
If we sign Odegaard and White our transfer window has gone to the dogs. I believe the Ramsdale rumour is a sad joke not to be taken seriously.
https://www.90min.com/posts/arsenal-transfers-james-maddison-martin-odegaard-comparison
Kroenkephobe, Faye Dunaway in 3 days of the condor when she complains to the Robert Redford character about being roughed up after he kidnapped her.
To which Redford says : “ Roughed up? ……Have I roughed you up? …..Have I raped you?
Dunaway: “ The night is still young”
A beautiful post just like the lady in the Arsenal home kit.
How can anyone say Ødegaard is shit!!! Unbelievable!!!
If we land him on a permanent move, I’ll be the happiest Gunner on earth!!!!
“The very fact that you couldn’t ID how good he was in either game kind of kills your ‘he never plays well’ narrative. You’re not paying attention or you’re not watching games and borrowing rating numbers from a crap app.“ Lol rumbled. – “I think people are seriously overestimating what Maddison brings to the table……….. For £70m I’d expect a CAM to be averaging around 10 assists per season in league play.. Maddison has averaged 5 in his three seasons at Leicester” David Silva scored 60 league goals, and had 93 assists in 10 years. He was one of the… Read more »
Pedro Sorry super laye reply, I was just on my way out when I posted my message. I understand why you’ve mentioned maddison and grealish at 22, but my point is that we shouldn’t be signing a player in that position based on future potential. There are lots of positions where we can do that, but we desperately need a creative attacking midfielder who will come in and make a difference straight away. Sure, Odegaard might turn into a world class number 10 in a couple of years, but we don’t have a couple of years to wait for that… Read more »
Tom,
I watch a lot of Leicester and I can’t see any issues with his application. One mistake shouldn’t tarnish a player. Jadon Sancho who’s just signed for Utd was in breach of covid guidances for Tammy Abrahams party along with others but it didn’t stop United signing him because he applies himself correctly on the pitch.
Now, Willian as you mentioned breached guidances to travel to Dubai, he’s the sort that an example should have been made out of, his performances before and after that were woeful.
Hi Tom
I’ll have to check out that film. Its a new one on me. Faye D in Chinatown and Bonnie and Clyde. Very good call.
Charlie
The D Silva stats are interesting but worth noting injuries severely brought down that average. Would love to see it corrected not for season, but for minutes
Almunia
Cheers mate. Recognition at last. My other half goes crazy apeshit even when I mention the word Arsenal let alone read and write about them. Still she’s not all bad – she absolutely and irrationally hates Harry Kane. So swings and roundabouts.
You should encourage Mrs Almunia to rewrite a tune about you and your much welcomed football obsession and post it on here.
Piotr Wood Wednesday 12th May The Arsenal Opinion podcast “It’s really interesting how excited we all were about Martin Odegaard. And the more I watch him, the more I feel like he’s got a similar sort of personality to Mesut Ozil. You know, I don’t think he was bad today but he doesn’t pick the game up by the scruff of the neck. Maybe that’s a bit unfair for someone who’s only been here 2 months coming into a bit of a train wreck, but you compare the two and if I had the choice it would be Smith-Rowe every… Read more »
Talking of creativity.
Not many in Europe could beat Ozil’s creative numbers until Emery and Arteta chose to abuse his talent…
And how we missed not having him in the side for the first 3 months of last season until his protégé came along to change our season.
Haha, Elmo caught you slipping Peds.
Stupid really , if Arteta hadn’t got on his high horse regarding the pay cuts, Ozil would have continued being an integral part of the team as he was before the first lockdown, then we wouldn’t be having all this continuous moaning about our lack of creativity since he was frozen out of the side.
Let’s be honest, Odegaard isn’t fit to tie Ozil’s bootlaces when it comes to skill, vision, creativity and composure on the ball.
Pierre, Mesut Ozil is so unfit to tie anyone’s shoelaces, he’s ended up in Turkey. But you are right, if he’d applied himself properly and give it his all, we’d be in a different position.
Weagle
Not intending to mug Pedro off. Just don’t understand why he’d go back on what he concluded based on watching matches with his own eyes, when no football has been played since. I otherwise agree with the other intentions for the summer expressed there.
WE, very impressed he went to those lengths to own me there. Hats off to Elmo.
Piotr Wood, May 26th There’s so much work to do. Every addition has to be perfect if we’re to make moves on the summer. We’ll need a back-up left-back, a right-back, and a proper centre midfielder. I really, really, really hope we make Odegaard our focus. I think he has such a high ceiling. Madrid needs to sell, this would be a good moment to bring him in before he blows up at the Euros feeding that monster from Dortmund. Ignore that I thought he was going to Euros. 30th May ‘The biggest transfer I suspect we’ll try and do… Read more »
More Piotr Wood: Oh man, Open Mic with Martin Odegaard was good, right? What a leader. I love him. Jan Fjortoft, who helped bring him into the Norwegian squad at 15 years old, spoke on ESPN and said he thinks the Arsenal project would be good for the player long-term. Jan is a big deal on the Norwegian futbol scene, he has good relationships with the kids, one would hope his suggestions was laced with some knowledge. The player himself had an injury scare during the break, but the Norway manager says he’ll be fine for Thursday’s game… international breaks,… Read more »
speaking of norwegian babies as you describe Martin, who is the girl on the pic? She looks nordic
Elmo
Unfortunately, many things have changed since that Pedro quote.
For instance, Arteta now wants Odegaard. Don’t you know Pedro has to change his position accordingly?
Olumide, he’s been the priority since January. So nothing happened since then, bar James Maddison apparently being in the mixer.
“The D Silva stats are interesting but worth noting injuries severely brought down that average. Would love to see it corrected not for season, but for minutes“ David Silva (23975 mins) 0.23 goals per 90 0.35 assists per 90 KDB (13874 mins) 0.27 goals per 90 0.51 assists per 90 Maddison (7579 mins) 0.25 goals per 90 0.18 assists per 90 Saka (4320 mins) 0.13 goals per 90 0.17 assists per 90 ESR (1554 mins) 0.12 goals per 90 0.23 assists per 90 This reflects pure output against arguably the best two players of the last decade in that creative… Read more »
Fair enough, Pedro. I’m of the opinion, similar to Johnny, that if we get into games like last season where we need a spark, and the easy option is to keep your head down and pass sideways, that Odegaard has looked like a player who is happy to look busy recycling the ball, without choosing to be Big Man on Campus, taking it on himself to try to unlock the defence. He definitely has room to grow, but if it’s 40m+ then it’s too much risk compared to what we’ve seen so far from him. I’m completely on board with… Read more »
What’s up with the Polish spelling of your name Pedro?
agreed charlie good call throwing some others in there
What’s up with the spanish spelling of your name pete
Tom, Elmo calls me Piotr and I like it.
Zacharse Would be very interested to read a deep dive into the creative exploits of these players, talking key passes, big chances created, xGA etc. I don’t have the time nor patience to go to those lengths. Also need to remember the context of each and every player, ESR has a tiny sample, KDB/Silva play in a world class outfit, Maddison plays for a side who play on the break often, Saka has numerous positions to his name. Very difficult to equate matters. What I take away from it is the potential in Saka/ESR, the excellence of a more mature… Read more »
Charlie
Just goes to show that De Bruyne really is a freak of nature, phenomenal player.
Di Maria also places extremely high in the assists list, criminally underrated by PL supporters for his perceived ‘failure’ season here [racked up double digit assists in the league alone].
Dig the Polski spelling of it myself, would you consider a re-branding Pedro?
Everton interested in Stefan de Vrij. He’s a better CB than both Holding and Gabriel
Odegaard-vs-Maddison aye? Good to just be able to debate on the either or considering we’ve finished 8th the last two years and have no Europe altogether this season. Heard the interest in Lautaro Martinez is real but not close. Depends on variables such as the departure of Lacca and Eddie. Also Inter would have to accept Bellerin as part of the exchange. So i’m guessing we’re trying to raise around £30m- ish from Lacca and Eddie, throw £20m on top and then offer £50m plus Bellerin. = £65m offer to a club soaked in debt. Plus Lautaro has under 2yrs… Read more »
Big fan of him Dream but he is 29 and would cost a bomb.
Piotr is definitely cool but hopefully that’s where he stops.
Piotr Drewno would be too much .
Can’t see Inter wanting anything to do with Bellerin, massive downgrade on Hakimi that.
I’m not fully sold on Lautaro Martinez myself to be honest. Do like elements of his game and think he would be an upgrade on Abraham albeit not a major one but not for 65m. He’s an erratic passer/link man and not particularly explosive which I would want in a 5 foot 9 ST.
Not convinced that he will go on to be a top drawer CF.
I would take Lautaro
Lautaro
Maddison
Coutinho – loan with no obl
We looking nice
CC
I agree, but there were quite a few years where d silva was not around too many worldies
Vintage Gun
”explosive, skilful with an eye for goal. Lacks height but an upgrade on lacca as he can do the linkup play more naturally due to his deep lying skillset.”
You reckon? Not for me although maybe I haven’t watched enough of him.
23/24 year old Aguero/Tevez/Higuain were all vastly superior strikers imo although ironically none of them ever really delivered for the Argentina NT which Lautaro did in the Copa America just gone. Not that it matters as far as their club performances.
Weagle
Outrageous output from De Bruyne when you consider the number of minutes too (near 14k, 6 seasons). Doesn’t even consider the finer creative actions throughout matches that don’t register as a goal/assist. Ridiculous footballer.
Di Maria is of similar influence, wish he was the guy we pushed for instead of Ozil way back when.Think he has a very different PL legacy if that was the case.
‘I agree, but there were quite a few years where d silva was not around too many worldies’
Had Aguero his whole time there along with Yaya Toure, Nasri, Dzeko, Tevez in the first half of his stint and then had De Bruyne, Sterling, Sane, Jesus, Mahrez, Bernardo Silva for the latter part.
Reading that haaland is mildly mocking chelsea for wanting to spend €175m on him. Smart kid
WE
Ya i remember but if i remember correctly he predated all of them in signing except perhaps yaya. Plus nasti, dzeko, balotelli, barton, not really worldies
Why we have to choose, can’t Arsenal afford to get both.
Tevez and yaya would be it. We had players on par w them back when. We still never replaced rvp
Zacharse Silva had lots of talent from day one. Doesn’t diminish his performance any, and imo he wasn’t always about delivering the very final ball/finish. He was incredible though, knit the attack together superbly and let others play to a high level. David Silva and Odegaard mirror well to me, both final third controllers with excellent retention and composure in tight spaces. Neither of those traits standout, but they’re vitally important to teams that want to dominate the ball and territory. All well and good playing fast and fluid one touch stuff, but it simply doesn’t work all the time… Read more »
I don’t think Ode is available Major Jeneral. I saw some lunatic state that Ode will be leaving on social media because his team mates weren’t cheering his shot in training as loudly as the other team mates in Madrid and people seem to have ran with it.
If it has been communicated clearly that he’s not available then we should draw a line and pursue more attainable targets. Very concerning that we have had a relatively lukewarm window so far with the Prem around the corner ish.
Major
I agree, if you want ode, ok, but spend on Maddison, Aouar and others too. 2 CAMS is totally fine. Wenger played with 3 creative mids all the time. We dominated possession, shots, etc. If Ben White and our defense is better than Wenger’s- then why not pick up a few more CAMS to help our limp dick attack
David Silva shits over Ode… his control, dribbling and being un pressable is one of the best in EPL … another version of a Santi.
Mentioning Ode along with him ? Nah
I would take a David Silva even now.. his last year at City- he was still balling …
If that is the type of player we want, then bag Aouar
Zacharse Aguero, Tevez and Yaya were all unquestionably elite. Even if Nasri wasn’t quite at that level, he was not far off at all. Charlie Di Maria is still top drawer to this day, agreed him over Ozil could have been the stuff of dreams. Getting his gaf and family held up in that Manc wasteland nipped any long-term potential he had there in the bud. He has literally said as much, also his wife safe to say isn’t the biggest fan of the city. Well worth a read on her eloquent thoughts on what the city has to offer… Read more »
Madrid have to send a pigs head to Arteta by overnight mail to shake him off his Odegaard fixation.
Arteta will wait until the 11th hr o make up his mind.
Weagle
That’s the London trump card when it comes to that part of life, just isn’t a competition to places like Manchester for South American’s and such. Pretty confident Di Maria would’ve landed down here and seen it in a different light entirely.
Guns
Odegaard and Silva are very similar stylistically idk what you’ve been watching if you can’t see that.
United are winning the summer transfer window, event though there are still ginormous transfers to come.
Signing Sancho and Varane in the same window helps them bridge he gap.
This Ode stuff, If we were so high on him, then why wait until now? Should have bid early in the window…. We bid on Buendia, that says to me, that Ode was not an option I think maybe RM wanted everyone back and now is in the process of sending players out, so we played the waiting game? Could be? But we are slow again… very slow. Chelsea are moving mountains right now, as per usual. Fast movers usually fare better IMO Garlick needs to take some note of how slow we are in doing business. Its hurt us… Read more »
Gunnernet
I thinks it’s Leah Williamson. She’s a hugely important figure in the women’s team and an England international. She and her whole family are massive Gooners I read somewhere.
CC- no way Ode is similar to Silva. Perhaps he aspires to be? If he was, I think we would have signed him up pronto.
Even RM would have said hands off.
Neither to both… not sure how you say he is similar?
Santi and Silva were and still are heads above Ode IMO
Seems like those protests really woke up the Utd owners
Well said at Guns of SF Arsenal dilly dallying in the transfer window is like watching paint dry. And you don’t know whether they going to stick or twist. By now you will think they would cut their losses on Xhaka(why stay so rigid when you lost the chance to get him sold for more earlier) What is going on with selling willock to Newcastle at a premium since they are interested now. Sincerely I won’t be surprised if arsenal ends up with Neves and lokonga alone in the midfield architecture when they need more there. auoar and maddison or… Read more »
Runnarsson is back it seems
Guns
Nowhere has anyone said Odegaard is at David Silva’s level. But they’re cut from the same cloth, the way they operate is very similar, as is their influence on matches.
As WengerEagle said ” Aouar > Maddison > Odegaard,” but I will go one further, anyone who is less than $40 mil, young, not injury prone, recovering from an injury, coming from the chavs, madrid or any other team where the player did NOT make into the starting 11.
So, anyone else>Aouar> Maddison> Odegaard!”
Someone up top has to figure this out at our club….
*Buy
En-Nesyri
Dani Olmo
Yves bissouma
Max Arrons
Aaron ramsdale (think he is actually a great option)
*Sell
Lucas Torreira
Hector ballerina
Granit xhaka
Willian
Lacazette
Maitland nines
*Keep
Joe wilock