EMILE SMITH ROWE – ARSENAL #10 – SIGNS LONG-TERM DEAL

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The best news of the summer dropped on the .com, with Arsenal making Emile Smith Rowe their brand new #10.

This is huge.

The player is a pure manifestation of everything we want out of a young player at Arsenal.

He’s extremely talented.

His attitude is exceptional.

He has an outrageous athletic profile.

He’s a Gooner through and through.

This is a massive win for Edu, who despite his obvious flaws, has made it his mission to stop the flow of young talent exiting the club.

This is also a massive win for Mikel Arteta. There’e a vocal section of the fanbase that keeps telling us he’s bland, a dictator, and bad for young players… yet here we are, another of Hale-Ends finest, putting pen to paper on a long-term deal.

You can say that’s money, but it’s not. Hungry players give a shit about one thing and one thing only… career development. They see a future at Arsenal and you have to be pleased about that.

The other massive win is the new vision for Arsenal. Clearly, we’re ageing down the squad, finally accepting smartest way to the top is to do things properly.

Build a young squad, coach them well, make sure when they hit the Champions League, they are ready to compete for the trophy.

This model is already reaping rewards. Tavares said he wanted to play with The Smith and Saka. Sambi Lokonga had offers from elsewhere in Europe and he chose Arsenal. We are now and attractive option for a younger generation of kids who see London, great training facilities, elite stadium… and the chance to make their mark in the best league.

I’m thrilled about this. Nearly all the young players we wanted to stay are committing their longterm futures to Arsenal. Saka, Martinelli, Emile Smith Rowe, Balogun, Kido Hart, Okowono… what a summer!

Now Edu and his team have to get to work to fill out the rest of the squad.

We still need a Xhaka replacement.

We are in desperate need of additional creativity in midfield.

We don’t have an acceptable right back.

The back-up keeper needs are getting desperate.

There are still 15 centre backs in the squad.

Plenty of work to do, but the summer is starting to feel a little bit sexier, and the mood is starting to lift.

Let’s see what the week ahead has for us.

Emile Smith Rowe, number 10, how very, very exciting.

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AFC Forever

Andy “Another favourite was when Platt ended up playing in goal for Villa at our place, did okay (in a clumsy sort of way) until Campbell finally got the better of him” Bloody hell, you’ve got some memory I remember that now!!! I think it was Spinks who got injured? We won by a few. A lot of young fans forget we only used to have one sub in those days, so it wasn’t unusual to see an on-field player go in goal. Interesting fact: in 1965 Charlton midfielder Keith Pocock replaced their injured goalkeeper and became the first substitute… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

“he doesn’t command his boxes well, poor on crosses, you can check this up on various Sheffield forums.“ Ramsdale: Crosses Faced — 8.87 p90 – 57th percentile Crosses Stopped — 0.82 p90 — 83rd percentile Crosses Stopped% — 9.2% — 83rd percentile 33 high claims for the season Leno: Crosses Faced — 8.17 p90 — 42nd percentile Crosses Stopped — 0.65 p90 — 60th percentile Crosses Stopped% — 7.9% — 63rd percentile 18 high claims for the season Emi: Crosses Faced — 10.56 — 91st percentile Crosses Stopped — 0.85 per 90 — 88th percentile Crosses Stopped% — 8.0% —… Read more »

Habesha Gooner
Champagne Charlie

“You want me to tell you that his right thumb is 5mm shorter than his left?“

No, I asked what he’s like given you said you’d watched him loads. Perfectly ordinary question that you kept ducking, yet more bluster gives me the impression you’ve little insight.

AFC Forever

WE Sorry if I missed the context. I disagree. It is a key position because it was one of my biggest complaints about us with the ball. Luiz was okay at it but he didn’t have the legs to bring the ball out into midfield he tended to prefer the longer pass. You have to be able to mix it, keep the opposition guessing. That had to be fixed and I’m pleased we’re doing it, we were playing far too slow allowing teams to get set. I agree we have to sort out CM too. The team has to be… Read more »

WengerEagle

Ramsdale’s pass completion was 43% last season. And 52% for Bournemouth.

Is he really the ball-playing GK Tets is after?

PhD2020

‘The biggest critics are usually the biggest optimists, hope often leads to despair”
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But you’re an optimist-I guess? And live in hope,that Arsenal will turn their fortunes around this season -all factors considered, given you’ve said:”We’ve slightly underachieved last season.”

Finishing in 8th place for two consecutive seasons and out of Europe for the first time in almost 25 years.

“But hope turns to despair,” according to you?

Habesha Gooner

I am really disappointed that we have cooled our interest on Onana. He is really one of the best younger Goalkeepers around. He is genuinely got everything. He would have been a major upgrade on Leno. Ramsdale though isn’t it. And I don’t think he will become an upgrade in the near future too.

WengerEagle

AFC Forever I don’t disagree that you really do benefit by having a CB that is comfortable on the ball and can bring it forward and enter the CM zone if needed but not at the expense of being weak aerially which is far more important for a CB. Would be like having a GK that is great with his feet but is terrible on crosses/set pieces. It’s not a welcome trade-off for me, call me old-fashioned. The whole need for an outstanding ball-playing CB spot can be mitigated by having a brilliant CM too that picks the ball up… Read more »

PhD2020

Champagne CharlieJuly 22, 2021 23:49:39
Well the data above took me 5 mins to source and arrange, and it says objectively that Ramsdale isn’t poor with crosses.

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But data in isolation, doesn’t really give a complete picture.

Given you’ve said the previous…
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Champagne CharlieJuly 22, 2021 22:39:44
I’m not going to pretend for a second I’m clued up on Ramsdale, I’ve seen fuck all of him.

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Or was that a sarcastic comment to Dissenter, a reply to another poster,or your honest non-visual assessment about Ramsdale?

Not trying to be funny,just asking.

Champagne Charlie

Habesha

And how have they arrived there? They don’t provide the data.

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/367185/Show/Bukayo-Saka

There’s Saka, ‘concentration’ and ‘tackling’ are his weaknesses, and he has “no significant strengths” apparently. You tell me how they’ve arrived there?

Phd
I’ve not seen any of Ramsdale, and I’m not making definite statements about him. I’m implying what the numbers objectively say about him.

PhD2020

Champagne CharlieJuly 23, 2021 00:14:58
I’ve not seen any of Ramsdale, and I’m not making definite statements about him. I’m implying what the numbers objectively say about him.

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I understand what you’re trying to imply.
But data without an eye test is not really being objective.

Champagne Charlie

Phd

Data is nothing but objective.

Can argue that it’s misrepresentative in isolation, but numbers are numbers and there’s no bias to them. I’m not telling anyone what I think of Ramsdale, I’m saying what the numbers illustrate in contrast to a view that he’s poor with crosses.

There’s a reason the best teams in the world use a truck load of data insights to navigate all manner of decisions.

China1

Who is Kido Hart? That name is amazing

China1

Charlie the numbers are objective but only inductive

What % of crosses that he stopped for example were actually easy takes vs those requiring a great piece of goalkeeping? The numbers won’t tell you

Anyway I don’t know if he’s up to much I just know 32m would make him something like the 5th most expensive keeper of all time so it’s highly unlikely this price point is value for money for him as a keeper

China1

Indicative*

China1

I’m curious does crosses stopped meaning an actual catch or just an intervention Catches are definitively useful for a keeper when dealing with crosses, tho if other interventions like pushing the ball away or a punch also count as a ‘stop’ then the question then also arises about the quality of those. When he punches does he get distance on it and put it to safety or does he sometimes flap at it and it lands somewhere around the danger area etc? This was one of the long time criticism of Leno vs Martinez where Leno made lots of awesome… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

China

Obviously you could scrutinise data to the nth degree, but when you’re talking about cumulative data there’s an implication that each data point considers a standard variance applied to all….at least at this level,

Now I’m sure bigger data banks will have deeper metrics evaluating quality/difficulty of crosses etc and be able to extract even keener insights. But we don’t and can only comment on what’s there.

Be curious to learn if there’s currently an established xSC (stopped crosses) or equivalent. I’m sure there is.

PhD2020

Champagne CharlieJuly 23, 2021 00:40:33 but numbers are numbers and there’s no bias to them. —– Really? Can argue that Peter Crouch was an adequate forward as an England International based on the data from your angle point-“numbers are numbers and there’s no bias to them” His 42 international appearances scoring 22 goals between 2005-2010.Almost 1 goal every 2 appearances reads well. Breaking it further down,almost half of those goals-were scored in friendlies. But here are some examples….. A goal scored in a 2-1 friendly win over Uruguay A goal scored in a pre-WC friendly against Hungary-England winning 3-1 in… Read more »

PhD2020

But not an objective insight in isolation.

China1

The one thing that is by now beyond doubt is Martinez is the man and a big loss for us

If there’s one keeper stat I would generally like to look at its expected vs actual catches. I think that stat would be one of the most important keeper stats

Tony

?

PhD2020

Champagne CharlieJuly 23, 2021 00:40:33

There’s a reason the best teams in the world use a truck load of data insights to navigate all manner of decisions.

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Thanks for saying the same thing in a roundabout way.

Tony

Useroz
Just replied to your post yesterday but it got swallowed up in Pedro’s elusive banned words.

I guess consultant’s speak is not allowed here.

Anyway thanks for your thoughts.

2000 was a busy and lucrative time for me training senior management in Horizontal management.

Not going to elaborate further or this post will disappear as well no doubt.

Champagne Charlie

Phd

The error comes from you trying to extract more meaning from a single data point than is there.

You pulled ‘Crouch is an adequate forward’ from his goal return figures (42 games, 22 goals). The data doesn’t imply that, it objectively offers up the fact he scored 0.52 per game at international level – which reflects positively relative to the mean.

Where’s the bias? There’s none. You’re introducing bias post-mortem.

Dark Hei

“Data is nothing but objective.”

Data is always used in a subjective manner.

On its own, it carry no meaning and cannot be said to be objective

PhD2020

Champagne CharlieJuly 23, 2021 02:15:09 PhdThe error comes from you trying to extract more meaning from a single data point than is there.You pulled ‘Crouch is an adequate forward’ from his goal return figures (42 games, 22 goals). The data doesn’t imply that, it objectively offers up the fact he scored 0.52 per game at international level – which reflects positively relative to the mean.Where’s the bias? There’s none. You’re introducing bias post-mortem. —– What? I’m saying he was not an adequate forward under closer inspection,given the goals he was posting under three different managers(Eriksson, McClaren, Capello) over a five… Read more »

Tony

China 1 Reading your PhD rebuttals yesterday reminded me of a dissertation I advised on for a friend’s son on there Chinese family in Thailand since 1910. 200 pages of very good work where one point has always stuck with me was that Chinese people when first coming over to Thailand kept telling the Thais beware of westerners as they will take over your country and ruin your heritage while systematically gaining the main seats of power and buying up the land. Nowadays it’s the Chinese Thai who run and own the majority of Thailand and Westerners have to jump… Read more »

Tony

Perfectly said Dark Hei.

PhD2020

Dark HeiJuly 23, 2021 02:17:32
“Data is nothing but objective.”Data is always used in a subjective manner.On its own, it carry no meaning and cannot be said to be objective
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I agree also.

Tony

Very happy ESR has committed to us for the long term, but the reported £20K a week after being the catalyst for the risible post Xmas table.

What wasn’t risible was ESR and Odegaard’s input in saving Arteta’s hide and stopping the pre Xmas rot/slide down the table.

When Willian is on £200K? a week it’s demeaning to give ESR 20K a week.

£50K a week with big incentives/bonuses would more in line with ESR’s ability and worth to the club, especially if we give Madder’s the reputed £200k a week.

Am I alone in this thinking?

PhD2020

Champagne CharlieJuly 23, 2021 02:15:09

it objectively offers up the fact he scored 0.52 per game at international level –which reflects positively relative to the mean.Where’s the bias? There’s none. You’re introducing bias post-mortem.


I don’t even understand this sentence or point you are making-relative to your earlier comment(s) that states:-

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Champagne CharlieJuly 23, 2021 00:40:33
“Data is nothing but objective.”

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Champagne CharlieJuly 23, 2021 00:40:33
“but numbers are numbers and there’s no bias to them.”

PhD2020

Champagne CharlieJuly 23, 2021 02:15:09
You pulled ‘Crouch is an adequate forward’ from his goal return figures (42 games, 22 goals).
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I was saying on the face of it-looking at his goals/appearances ratio it seems impressive.Upon closer scrutiny it is does not appear that where,when you factor in other variables.And I gave examples of the matches he scored in,most of them meaningless matches.

Therefore data does not give a complete picture in isolation.

Not sure of the magic roundabout CC.

Either way,fill your boots.

PhD2020

*it is does not appear that way,when you factor in other variables.

PhD2020

*it does not appear that way,when you factor in other variables.

PhD2020

Champagne CharlieJuly 23, 2021 02:15:09 The error comes from you trying to extract more meaning from a single data point than is there. —– The issue here is you extracting various statistics for Ramsdale(objective data according to you),without you having seen him play-according to you(see further below). Whereas,we could see P.Crouch over a period of time before making or staking a claim for an international England appearance and fathom what his qualities were and how managers were using his aerial threat as a Plan ‘A’ or a Plan’B’. No “bias post-mortem” here I’m afraid(according to you). Anywhere as you were… Read more »

PhD2020

*Whereas,we could see P.Crouch over a period of time before making or staking a claim for an international England appearance and fathom what his qualities were and how international managers were using his aerial threat and other perceived qualities as a Plan’B’ approach, still fell well short of his underlying numbers.

Not good enough despite the stats or data suggesting otherwise.

TR7

It is almost as if Pedro and Charlie feel compelled to defend each decision of Arteta. Charlie reminds me of lawyers who know their client is guilty but still try to put forward data and information which can muddy the water somewhat and put a doubt in the mind of the adjudicating judge.

PhD2020

CC Anyway,if I’m taking a’ bias post-mortem’ with P.Crouch, based on everyone watching him previously(having played prior to his 42 international England caps) 250+ club games (L’pool incl) scoring 80 + goals up to that point. What’s your pre-bias with Ramsdale-having not watched him ,according to you and judging him on his data? Are you a fortune crystal ball teller?A psychic phenomenon? What’s the lottery numbers for the weekend-do tell? Where will Arsenal finish under Arteta this season-based on the data? Will we qualify for Europe this season? Or finish mid-table or worse,based on the last two seasons? Pretty sure,you… Read more »

PhD2020

TR7July 23, 2021 04:21:08
It is almost as if Pedro and Charlie feel compelled to defend each decision of Arteta. Charlie reminds me of lawyers who know their client is guilty but still try to put forward data and information which can muddy the water somewhat and put a doubt in the mind of the adjudicating judge.

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Muddy the water or find a technicality to get their client of the hook..

PhD2020

NZ suspends travel to it’s country.Now isolating.
Three states in Australia in lockdown
UK,facing increases in CV-19 rates daily,given the lifting of restrictions.
Tokyo in it’s fourth state of emergency,with rising CV-19 rates..
On and on it goes around the world…

But,but……Some country has the solution but does not want to share with the rest of the world.

Let’s just suffer…Boohoo..
You snooze,you lose…

TR7

If you asked any Arsenal fan 2 months ago how would they spend £ 120M of Arsenal money in transfer window, I guess none would have recommended buying even one out of Ramsdale, White and Tammy let alone all 3 of them. But still now that White is pretty much done and dusted and there are concrete links to Ramsdale and to some extent Tammy too, we now find a few posters doing verbal gymnastics to make a case for these signings. I understand everyone has different views but I can’t help but feel some of them sound disingenuous and… Read more »

PhD2020

C1July 22, 2021 14:45:10 As for whether the economic numbers and factory output numbers are accurate – probably not. They probably never have been at any point in the last 20 years. ——- C1July 22, 2021 14:45:10 If you don’t believe the PRC has covid under control then get on a plane and come here and see for yourself how it is rather than making wild guesses based on nothing other than your theory.I’ve explained at great length what measures have been and are in place and how it is managed here, it is actually quite consistent and logical that… Read more »

TR7

PhD

‘NZ suspends travel to it’s country.Now isolating.
Three states in Australia in lockdown
UK,facing increases in CV-19 rates daily,given the lifting of restrictions.
Tokyo in it’s fourth state of emergency,with rising CV-19 rates..
On and on it goes around the world…’

A never ending horror !! Unless China, a rogue state, is taken to task the world will never get to the root of Covid-19 origination and its cure. The world will witness a new wave every 6 months. Even vaccines will prove to be ineffective against new variants.

Guns of SF

take the bat blood and synthesize the antibodies and use that.
bats are able to hold the disease in check due to their high metabolisms….
anyhow, yes this new delta variant is pissing me off

Dark Hei

PHD China has it under control. They do so because they are able to lock folks down in a swift and draconian manner. And I do know as well as I am in communication with people in China itself. TR7 I have heard from scientists like Jane Goodall and for most of them, Covid’s emergence was actually consistent with other deadly outbreaks in the 20th century. Ebola, HIV and MERS are all animal to human viruses so why shouldn’t Covid be any different. Of course China’s lack of transparency and rhetoric throws red flags all around us, so you can’t… Read more »

PhD2020

TR7July 23, 2021 05:28:59

What can you say really?
Zilch…

Literally shut down or censored even from this side of the pond.
Ask a question,you’re met with a programmed script or vitriol if you dare to question.

No co-ordinated or sharing of intelligence that helps all concerned.

Just a belligerent attitude and I’m an alright Jack-Each to their own.

PhD2020

Dark HeiJuly 23, 2021 05:43:46

It’s the veracity of mortality number’s thats in question?

Mark

Well said TR7. Charlie is worse than Pedro tho. He’s never been wrong in his life, and will talk round and round. Those sentences were just convuluted nonsense. Haha, thing is PhD is too smart for all that, and just points it out showing it for what it is , Pure Waffle! PhD & TR7 ‘ dropping ‘ truth Bombs on Charlie. I was cracking up. I still can’t believe no-one has picked him up on how ESR and Saka cost us points cos they’re teenagers. (Even though they were actually two of our best performers last season. And how… Read more »

PhD2020

Dark HeiJuly 23, 2021 05:43:46

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Are you able to check the below links out?I do have the complete paper to the deleted link.But not sure how to post it to you and others-if they’re interested-TR7 especially.

https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1407623748870606849

https://twitter.com/jbloom_lab/status/1407445604029009923

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.18.449051v1
(full pdf article deleted recently-I wonder why?)

PhD2020

MarkJuly 23, 2021 05:50:58

Thought it was me that was imagining things.

Sometimes,it’s trying to see clarity through the haze.

Catching the Olympics?

China1

PHD if covid is not under control here I’d love to know how I don’t know a single person who has caught it or had suspiciously similar and serious symptoms. Not one person. So We’ve not had a national lockdown for well over a year. Huge public events and gatherings take place, night clubs open, bars open, restaurants open, tourist attractions rammed in peak season, shopping malls rammed on the weekends All those potential superspreader events… and yet so hard to find even a hint that the virus is spreading out of control by looking with your own eyes. Ofc… Read more »

China1

I’m also a bit unsure why you’re so hung up on economic numbers coming out of China lol

Not sure why the accuracy of economic figures is so bothersome to you. I get covid cutting deep, it’s impacted the whole world. I can’t even go home and see my family in England ffs. But the way economic figures may or may not be overstated is a slightly odd obsession unless you’re an economist or personally impacted by GDP growth here?

The financial system here is opaque, is this really news to you?

Leftside

20 days to go and we have signed promising young players but will they be in the match day 11? We really need to get a move on, there can and will be no excuses for a poor start.

PhD2020

China1July 23, 2021 06:36:30

No problem…
Have a good day.

China1

Left side the one I’m most excited to see is Lokonga

As long as he’s better than el neny and ceballos we’re improving, but there’s a part of me that hopes this is some prime wenger under the radar signing and he’s actually already quality and able to do things in the starting 11

I don’t expect it of him but can’t help but hope

Leftside

China,

Here’s to hoping. I’m hoping that we can see him quite a bit this season but we’re still very thin on the ground even if he starts.

Assuming that White also comes in, by the Brentford game we haven’t strengthened at all and have just replaced Luiz and Ceballos essentially with a backup LB for Tierney.

Makes you wonder why we take so long to get anything done.

China1

Still kicking tyres at Sassuolo that’s why!!

Muppetman

Left side all transfers takes ages now a days. Look how long Man U have been working on Sancho and now Varne. Not saying Arsenal are brilliant but across the board it doesn’t seem very fast at moment. I do wonder why teams leave it to the last few hours on transfer day, always strikes me and as piss poor management.

Leftside

Muppetman,

All transfers don’t take long. Sancho hasn’t been announced because it’s not completely done. There has been a minor issue that needs to be a rectified first before that is announced.

We know that White is likely to come in, then what after that? We’re hearing more concrete links to Ramsdale and Tammy when we have enough strikers and we haven’t done any of the pertinent business required in the middle of the field. The rest is just hearsay and that’s concerning. We’ve had more than enough time.

Leftside

United nowadays also are quite comparible to Arsenal with transfers and dithering.

The backpass

CC The thing is I don’t need data to tell me he is poor on crosses or doesn’t command his boxes, same way I don’t need data to tell me Leno also has fault in this areas, why? Because I watch him, I also read what some of their fans think and it is similar to what I noticed. Tee You must think some don’t watch football outside England, I have been banging about Musa Barrow from Bologna for about 2 years now. Do you think someone that watches bologna, doesn’t have time to watch the most exciting team in… Read more »

Muppetman

Either way the longer we dither the more likely we will be starting with the same players from last season with our first games and With the fans back if after 5 games we haven’t done well it will be toxic. Sign players end of August by the time they start will probably be mid September and then however long to settle. Madness from a club that finished 8th in the premier league last year.

Useroz

On data,, recall Pedro mentioned xhaka and torreira buys were primarily data driven, and we all watch with our eyes where that got us. Just an example I suppose and not saying ramsdale is defo shit

BTW, says who a club could always make a profit when selling, sheffield can love to do that, of course 😉

China1

Xhaka is a stat king.

There was even that stat based website that put him in the team of the season this year lol

Scenes

Leftside

Thats just it Muppetman. This is a club with back to back 8th place finishes still resting on their laurels. Arteta will be in for a rude awakening early in the season with our fans back and he’s already on the ropes.

Emiratesstroller

I don’t know who advises Arteta and Edu on goalkeepers but their decision making has been pretty awful. First they offloaded Martinez for less than £20 million. He is now rated one of the gks in the business with a valuation almost double what we sold him for and a rating considerably higher than Leno. Then we recruited Runarsson rated one of the poorest goalkeepers in French Ligue and after a couple of games realised that the £1.8 million + wages was a complete waste of money. Now we appear to be pursuing Ramsdale a very average goalkeeper who has… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Phd Jesus Christ it’s really very basic. I’m saying it was you who made the initial error to suggest his goal record somehow pointed to him being an adequate forward. His goal record/ratio just showed him capable of scoring at a certain rate (objectively higher/lower than the mean) at that level, nothing more. I said more than once I’ve no firsthand knowledge of Ramsdale, so can you point out where I made any definitive conclusion on him based on stats alone? You’re talking bollocks because you didn’t even understand what was said to begin with. Mark With the greatest respect… Read more »

DivineSherlock

Emiratesstroller

Selling Martinez wasnt a mistake , he wanted assurance to be no.1 . The mistake was not buying a proper no.2 who can compete with Leno. There are many options right now with PSG the most vulnerable with 9 GKs on the book. Keylor Navas or Areola both good enough. Onana has potential, Barca’s Neto .

Emiratesstroller

Divine Sherlock

Martinez is a better goalkeeper than Leno who is error prone. Therefore Martinez would have
been my preferred choice.

None of the goalkeepers you list would cost anything like what Sheffield United are demanding. Donorumma went to PSG a free transfer!! We could afford to pay him £200K pw
and have recruited a significantly better player.

WengerEagle

David Ornstein:

”James Maddison is not one that I can see developing, it would be a huge stretch of Arsenal’s finances & not realistic”

Put that rumour out to pasture then.

Also begs the question, if we don’t have the money to pursue a player like Maddison why are we spending 50m on another CB while chucking Saliba back out on loan?

Or 30 odd million on Ramsdale/40m on Abraham? Two positions that do not need heavy investment.

Bob N16

ES, you’re living in dreamland if you think we could attract Donnorumma in our present state – no CL. I’ m sure PSG are paying him very well.

China1

Weagle if we can’t afford Maddison the CF and GK rumors might also be clickbait

But you’re right as well that if we genuinely can’t afford a signing like Madison then wtf is the plan for our midfield after we just spent 60 million on a CB and backup LB????

Let’s see what happens because it’s hard to know what’s real and what’s BS

Champagne Charlie

Weagle

This guy..

https://mobile.twitter.com/david_ornstein/status/1150111987889778690?lang=en

He’s only saying what most think regarding price, it’s a big one, and as such unlikely.

TR7

WE

Makes White signing even more mind-boggling, doesn’t it ?

WengerEagle

Charlie

Was he not right on that? We didn’t have €80m up front to pay for Pepe. We’re going to be paying off in installments for him over a number of years.

I cannot see Leicester being quite as keen on that sort of payment plan for Maddison, can you?

WengerEagle

China

If we even sign White and one of Ramsdale or Abraham it still begs the question. And it would be very Arsenal to bin off Martinez for 20m only to shell out for a GK that has conceded 128 PL goals in his two seasons in the Prem for 30m (oh but he’s won the Fans Player of the Year! 🤣) just a year later.

Champagne Charlie

He just commented underneath a video clip of his SKY interview where he said Maddison would be a stretch financially.

David Ornstein:

“Not easy to explain in a short answer live on air. ESR is now rightly the priority at 10 so while Arsenal are still looking to recruit in that area to compete with / support him I’m not sure they’ll go to the level required to sign Maddison (didn’t say they don’t have the money)”

James wood.

Of course they have the money 200 million😂😂😂😂😂.

WengerEagle

TR7

People who think that White will revolutionse our entire system and way of playing from the back are likely to be disappointed.

He’s being talked about on the ball as if he were Franz Beckenbauer.

If our CM is still shit going into the season then it won’t make a dent how good White may or may not be on the ball. He’s also weak on crosses so there’s that.

China1

Weagle TR7 indeed

I’m not gonna jump on this because I want to see how it unfolds, but that would be a really arsenal way to fuck up a transfer window wouldn’t it

My hopes are high but expectations very low. Let’s see

Ustyno

CC you seems like a lawyer to me,you will defend whatever you believe in with a straight face pulling out data that’s convincing to the people even when the data doesn’t tell the whole story

Pedro unlike CC defend Arteta sometimes with a tongue in cheek expression,you could see him turning around in no distance time

The truth is however we defend what is going on in this transfer window,the rumors are just annoying,it might be rumours but knowing how we operate rumors may turn to reality anytime from now

WengerEagle

Charlie

He said on the air that we don’t have the finances though?

I’m not holding him up as an Oracle or anything but I thought that it was widely accepted that he has the club’s ear?

Gonsterous

I’m sorry but I refuse to believe ESR is on 20k. The lowest I can imagine is 30k.

These corporate people really make the most of a player loving a club. Bring in mercenaries and pay them 200k but keep loyal players under 30k? That’s just a recipe for disaster.

Footballers like any other job look at their pay roll and their input in the team

Would anyone of us work at a place where they underpay us whilst giving someone who does less, double (hell many people get pissed if someone earns 500 dollars more)

PhD2020

WengerEagleJuly 22, 2021 21:46:33 Hilarious watching Beckham’s vanity project descend into a freak show with the dopey Chuckle Brother Phil Neville at the helm. Gonzalo Higuain looking more like Sid Haig by the day.Also have that eternal bellend scrote that is the dirty Ryan Shawcross. —– I don’t get the Beckham thing with the-‘InterMiami”. I mean,heard when he played for LA Galaxy, that it was written into his contract that he could buy a US franchise. All that said,heard there were a consortium of business people invested in InterMiami,of which DB was a minority stake holder.So, allegedly he’s the front… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Ustyno “you will defend whatever you believe in with a straight face pulling out data that’s convincing to the people even when the data doesn’t tell the whole story“ Uh ok, but this is literally what anyone with an opinion does. When I don’t have firsthand knowledge of something I go to the data to get an insight, and that’s the beginning and end of it re: Ramsdale. If you think I’m defending the Ramsdale signature you’re not following. I said: “I’ve not seen any of Ramsdale, and I’m not making definite statements about him. I’m implying what the numbers… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Weagle

He literally just retracted/clarified what he said on air. He didn’t say/mean the club doesn’t have the money, he just doesn’t think the club will go big for Maddison and they’ll choose another.

WengerEagle

Sancho is going to be on 350k a week at United. He was on 230k a week last season at Dortmund.

Are we really on paying Saka 30k a week and ESR 40k a week in his new deal? Seems incredible that.

Willian earns close to in a week what ESR and Saka earn combined in a month and he rides the bench, lol.

The young lads need better agents.

WengerEagle

Reiss Nelson is paid more than Saka, that is wild.

Don’t care how young Saka is, he deserves much more.

AFC Forever

Divine Sherlock “Selling Martinez wasn’t a mistake , he wanted assurance to be no.1. The mistake was not buying a proper no.2 who can compete with Leno” This. Martinez had been the second choice for ages, nobody on here were screaming for him to replace Leno. Leno had been producing some great performances too. Injury gave Martinez his chance which he took with “gloved hands”. Fair play to him. He then wanted an assurance to be number one so he left for someone who would give him that. That’s life. Happens all the time in football. I bet Chelsea wish… Read more »

Gbat

I’ve never been a fan of Ramsdale from the little I’ve seen of him. There’s a good breakdown of his shot stopping and positioning by LatteFirm. No idea of how good he is with his feet.
£30m no, but I would for around £20m for a young but experienced English keeper with a lot of potential.

WengerEagle

Charlie

Aka a cheap alternative. So he’s basically saying the same thing.

Why make a CB our marquee signing when we were creatively one of the worst sides last season? And people can do one fixation with the modern game playing from the back ‘progressive passes’ talk.

The game of football hasn’t changed as much as is let on, if you have a crap CM that struggle to create and play through the lines, you will struggle.

WengerEagle

And those backing the idea behind Ramsdale, he is absolutely terrible with his feet/distribution.

43% pass completion rate last season and 52% in his season at Bournemouth.

We’re trying to emulate City and Pep, well Ederson passes like a midfielder. In the 80s %.

Champagne Charlie

Weagle

I don’t disagree, but I’m not sure what Ornstein said changes anything at all. Everyone appreciates Maddison is a huge move to facilitate, and some would rather Aouar regardless. Doesn’t really alter much if it’s either/or.

Ornstein also said we want a CM and a GK, before also saying that further outgoings would influence any decision to buy a striker or RB. Safe to say there’s money and intent to make changes, just a matter of seeing it unfold now.

raptora

I’ve been banging Bernardo Silva’s drum for a while as I’d expect him to be made available for other clubs. And today I read: “Bernardo Silva could be the player sacrificed by Manchester City if they go ahead with a potential move for Kane and potentially also revisit their interest in Aston Villa’s Jack Grealish.” If Arteta wants him, I reckon with his Man City connections, the transfer could be completed in the matter of days. City need to sell if they want to buy a top class CF. Bernardo ticks a lot of boxes for us as he is… Read more »

TR7

Well if all we are looking for a back up to Leno then Aamir Begovic was available on a free transfer and I don’t think he would have done any worse than Ramsdale.

Tom

AFC, you’re a bit all over the place there.
Either the Emi decision was the right one or not, make up your mind.
If it was the right decision then no hindsight is needed.

No Chelsea fan I know claims KDB or Salah decisions were correct so where’s the similarity?

Emiratesstroller

Bob N16

No I am not in dreamland.

That goalkeeper went to PSG for the money and not career ambition.

The point I am making is that Ramsdale is a goalkeeper for a bottom 6 EPL or Championship
level club. FIFA’S analysis rates him as a £5 million goalkeeper in transfer market and his
stats are well below those of Leno in all departments.

He would be considered nothing better than a second string goalkeeper at most top level clubs. He has played last two seasons in relegation teams and by any definition is not a
£30 million valued goalkeeper.

WengerEagle

Charlie Our CM is currently Partey who managed 18 starts last season, Elneny and a kid that has played one season in Belgium. Very concerning if we aren’t looking to bring in x2 more CMs on top of a CAM. Spending 30m on Ramsdale would be a ridiculous way of using our funds, we have no European football this season and Leno in goal. We only need a back up in the mould of someone like Matt Ryan/a solid veteran and put the more serious money towards reconstructing our midfield and adding a forward. I agree that sales will change… Read more »

Leedsgunner

Everyone knows that No 10 is a big shirt and it is definitely a big position as well,” he said. “So I’m buzzing to be honest, I can’t wait to get on the pitch. It’s really special – I can’t explain the feeling when I found out. I’ve not really got the words to explain it right now! But yeah, I’m really happy.” I love ESR. His enthusiasm for our club is infectious and so joyous. To think he and Saka have signed their futures with us is the best news if you’re an Arsenal fan. Finally in these two… Read more »