We’re heading into a weekend game with a team harder than Hibs and still things are dragging like a bag of feathers through tar.
The good news about this transfer window is there isn’t much choice when it comes to signing players. We don’t have enough quality to survive the season. We have one keeper, we don’t have a serviceable right back. We’re back to having one creative midfielder. Our midfield is still painfully limp. If the club wants to move back to the promised land, they’re going to have to start kicking things into gear.
The painful story doing the rounds in the media is it appears our interest in Martin Odegaard has not completely fizzled out. The Norwegian creative was very much the priority at the start of the summer and there is clearly still a feeling the youngster might be booted out on loan again when Carlo realises he’s not going to make the Champions League winners this season. I don’t like this sort of gamble because it shows that we’re not learning from past mistakes. We did this last season, spending all summer chasing Aouar, only to miss out, then have the least creative start to a season since 1887.
When is the cut-off point? Who are the players we’d miss out on if we wait? What are the consequences if it doesn’t happen? Do we have time to enact a back-up plan?
I cannot be hearing Arteta bemoaning the lack of time with new players… because we have known about this summer for a long time.
Waiting is a luxury a broken squad doesn’t have. We should be moving faster than this. Easy for me to say… but come on, hard not to lazily correlate Edu and his yacht parties with minimal action in the transfer window. Hungover, hating life every morning, palming off his duties to the super-agents… we’ve been here before.
Even the positives feel a bit wet. Arsenal is prepared to go all out for Locatelli… but the player wants Juventus. The back-up? Neves apparently. Like heading out to Oxford Street with your mum to buy your new sneakers in Sports Direct.
Again, all rumours, but the heavy rumours have been pretty accurate so far this window
The only thing we can truly temper these problems against is that we finished 8th. The fact we’re trying to spend big on quality players at all is pretty exciting. Romano said that Locatelli appreciates our efforts… a bit of a pat on the head, but there you go.
Finally, the new kit. I like it on people. The red is powerful, the players look good in it, I think it would be gut supportive. Not my fave, but totally acceptable.
BIG QUESTION. Why do the kits get leaked so early? Is there nothing Adidas can do about that? ESPECIALLY THE RENDERS.
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I won’t be holding my breath for transfer news.
The whole market is slow and I expect Arsenal to be slower than the rest.
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Bastardo Bill -dumps on my parade.
Missed by miles
Locatelli to Neves? Sexy? Hell no, but I think that’s an optimistic view.
I’d rather have Bissouma.
Dither about Odegaard, miss out on Aouar. Waste time dreaming of Maddison- end up with……Buendia. oh no, he’s gone to Villa.
Bad luck. Too much Arsenal-like dithering in the air
Real Madrid are not going to send Ødegaard on loan again. They will want hard cash currency and unfortunately Ødegaard should not be near the list of players to solve our immediate problems.
The last time Arsenal spent millions that they did not have on a slow, one footed midfield player, with problem to adjust with the pace of the EPL, the DoF got sacked and ultimately it cost the manager his job. I hope that Arsenal would not be stupid enough to repeat the mistake, anyway I would be fine with the sacking outcome.
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You really wonder what the “team” who are supposed to be doing transfers both in and out of the club do for most of the year. The transfer windows do not stop teams buying players – they just can’t be registered to play. Whilst I appreciate the Euro’s were always going to slow things down I still don’t know why we didn’t have one or two lined up incoming or outgoing. We’ve got a really tough August with the season now exactly 4 weeks away. The rate we’re moving we’ll be starting with Xhaka still in the team and no… Read more »
“We have one keeper, we don’t have a serviceable right back“ Come again? Bellerin, Cedric, Chambers, and AMN are on the books. You could comfortably pick 2 of those and negotiate a season trying to crack top 4. The area for concern is midfield. We have Partey/Elneny only, with Xhaka half out the door, and Torreira crying somewhere in the corner. Lakonga isn’t moving the needle next season, he’s part of rebranding the player profile (important) and at best will be surprisingly good depth. ESR is the only playmaker at the football club. This is a huge issue coupled with… Read more »
We should be moving faster than this. Easy for me to say… but come on, hard not to lazily correlate Edu and his yacht parties with minimal action in the transfer window. Hungover, hating life every morning, palming off his duties to the super-agents… we’ve been here before.
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Lol
I guess Edu’s learning from his maestro-the great OGL.
https://www.joe.ie/sport/video-arsene-wenger-playing-beach-soccer-in-brazil-441774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjJIE5-W514
ESR has shown some durability last season but kind of faded towards the end of the season. Came in with a bang in Jan. WE do need a CAM sharpish as a knock to ESR in the early stages screws us up pretty bad. The slowness of every TW is an indicator of how poor we are in the market.
By now, we should be finalizing deals for all targets… unless we are going for top players who were at Euros and need to start biz with them
The reality is it will be tough convincing elite players to play in Diet Peps system
A big no to Ode. Please no more.
Fella is not a needle mover that we need.
Does not seem excited about returning here anyhow…..
I get a bad feeling about this one..
Fans are back in the stadium and I can hear the chants already ‘ you don’t know what you are doing’.
PhD
Do you work for the ordnance survey by any chance? 😋
Landlocked countries reminds me of another joke. Sorry Marc, please don’t hate my lame attempts at humour. I’m extremely sensitive!What us the difference between a vacuum cleaner and a sailor in the Bolivian Navy?One sucks and never fails… the other….
This transfer window is slow because everyone is waiting for a first move to free up some cash. The Euros didn’t help that process. Sancho is the only big move to date that I can think of. Anyone else so far? I may be wrong but assume Edu is waiting to sell (Xhaka? Willock? Torreira? or dump Willian???) to generate the cash to buy players. Otherwise, he risks getting stuck with releasing players for free or getting very little. The Kroenke’s won’t like that, and he knows it. THAT might actually get him sacked. If I am right, then we… Read more »
Arsenal has already been sold off to Kia Joorabchan, Sanhelli and his corrupt group through Edu.
They better sack Edu before its too late
Have little to nothing to contribute to the political talk on here but always enjoy reading it, the views from both sides of the fence.
It’s slap bang in the middle of summer and there is literally nothing Arsenal to talk about, it amazes me that there are people that have an appetite to talk about us every single sleepy day of the window but fair play to them.
I personally always welcome the change of pace when other topics are broached on here when there is little happening.
KroenkephobeJuly 16, 2021 16:38:54
PhD
Do you work for the ordnance survey by any chance? 😋
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Haha ..
Love the banter…
How did the stint across the world,especially in the Middle East and South America work out?
A bit similar to the link below-where you saw your life flash before your very eyes..??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4SRsGn14PI
If you are utterly bored of Arsenal, you can tune in to Perez’s leaked audio. Some real juicy stuff there.
NJ Gooner
Sancho, Konate, Daka, Firpo, Buendia, Rashica, Olise.
“The reality is it will be tough convincing elite players to play in Diet Peps system”
lol. i thought the line was elite players come and then become average. come on sid, get yer shit together.
NJ
Olise is an exciting pick up for Palace, just had a very good season in the Championship and looks to be a like for like Eze replacement factoring in his injury. 9m will prove to be a snip when they sell him on for x4 times that.
Pedro’s banned word list is getting tricker to bypass by the day.
Any chance of a bit of transparency on it Pete?
Sancho, Olise, Konate, Firpo, Daka, Buendia, Rashica all signed up this window in the PL to date.
Olise, Konate, Firpo, Daka, Buendia, Rashica all signed up this window in the PL to date.
If United get Trippier and Varane and replace Fred with a good midfielder, they will have a very good team come next season.
Wenger Eagle
Here’s one for you to ponder.
What have john Lukic, steve ogrizivic, peter shilton and Stanley Matthew’s got in common?
TR7
Perez has always struck me as a disloyal piece of shit.
How you treat your club legends says it all and Casillas and Raul especially had embarrassing ends to their time there, in stark contrast to Xavi, Puyol and Iniesta at Barcelona.
Even Ronaldo was barely given a goodbye after helping them to 4 Champions Leagues.
WE
Yes, Perez hates everyone except Zidane and still the French legend has had enough of him. I think quite a few players have alluded to toxic atmosphere at Madrid and hostile fan base. Perhaps it explains sudden dip in form of some top class players who moved to Madrid.
“”””””””i thought the line was elite players come and then become average. come on sid, get yer shit together.”””””””
Would you like to work at an organization that will make you mediocre? Martinez, Buendia…….
Who could forget this gem imparted by Flo Perez in the wake of selling Makelele: ”His technique is average, he lacks the speed and skill to take the ball past opponents, and ninety percent of his distribution either goes backwards or sideways. “He wasn’t a header of the ball and he rarely passed the ball more than three metres. Younger players will arrive who will cause Makelele to be forgotten.” Real Madrid in Makelele’s 3 years at the club: -x2 La Liga titles (2001, 2003), x1 Third Place (2002) – x1 Champions League title 2002, x2 Semi Finals (2001, 2003)… Read more »
PhD A career of two halves really mate Iran, Iraq and Syria on the one hand. As tricky as you can imagine, esp Iran. Mexico, Colombia, Argentina and Brazil on the other. I preferred the latter ones by a long chalk unsurisingly. I once transferred from Tehran to Rio without passing through London. Travelling from one of the least permissive societies to the most was a complete mindfuck. Glad I did it that way rather than the reverse! Rio is a wonderful place but the football in Argentina was always much more fun. I’m definitely going back after this bastarding… Read more »
‘Odegaard is a fantastic talent,’ With respect, that is one hell of a statement to make. Hyperbole at its best. Perhaps, I was watching different Arsenal matches to some of you last season. I saw no fantastic talent in Odegaard. I can’t think of a single match where he stood out because that’s what ‘fantastic talent’ do. Teams throughout the world are not really bothered about getting this fantastic talent for themselves. It’s only Arteta who loves grabbing these rejects from Madrid like Ceballos and Odegaard and try to con the Arsenal fans that they are world class, giving them… Read more »
Almunia
Haven’t a Kalou, ?
WengerEagleJuly 16, 2021 17:05:30 Pedro’s banned word list is getting tricker to bypass by the day.Any chance of a bit of transparency on it Pete? —— Hahaha.. It’s temperamental…. I could type out a long post.Goes through.. On another day,type out a meaningful post and it get’s rejected. The last week,I’ve found myself inserting dots between the words to weed out the banned words,and realised after all that effort-it’s one word that prevented the post from going through. Then put the banned word in the next post,it goes through. Just weird… The word,I can remember recently that seemed to be… Read more »
There is less than a month left until the new season and our squad is actually WORSE than last season. Incredible. No backup GK, Mari and Holding our only CB options going into the first few games, Bellerin looks to be gone so who is our starting RB? Cedric, Chambers? Xhaka is gone… who is going to partner Partey at this point? Elneny? Lacazette on his last year. Nelson doesn’t get any minutes, and he doesn’t look even remotely ready for the first team due to Arteta’s mismanagement. Willian still here?! Kola?! What the fuck is going on at this… Read more »
Yes Odegard is overrated, no way is he a fantastic talent.
Good to see you Ozy, how are things.
PHD
I was listing out the signings made by PL clubs in response to NJ Gooner’s post and one of the names must have got snagged in the system.
Tried the polka dot approach to no success.
Damn… you know the transfer window is tanking hard… when even Pedro’s faith is circling the drain.
As for the kit .. it does look better on a player… but still disjointed, if you ask me.. won’t be one of my favorites. Unless we go on a 24 game winning streak.
Only 4 players to play top flight english football across 4 decades, tough one that.
If you are at work and looking to kill a few minutes you could do worse than watch this clip. Remember I was telling you that big Nev Southall was my GOAT? I know he was slightly before your time and I also know YouTube clips can be manipulated but take a look at this
https://youtu.be/Ab5k1tNQvfk
if anyone needs some light relief, check out bolsonaros latest problem. hiccups for 10 days, 2 lbs of shit removed thru his nose. god is inventing new plagues for him is the best take on it so far
Almunia I love talking about Johnny Bostic – a terrific keeper and as you know up there in my pantheon of Gooner goalies. I’m guessing it’s either to do with career longevity or playing on into their 40s. I know Stanley Matthews played forever much to his credit. It’s funny, I was idly watching the 87 cup final on TV a few days ago, when Sillett, Oggy and Houchen thoroughly pissed on Spurs’s chips in the final. A great schadenfreude memory. Coventry have/had some great fans and songs. One of the less imaginative ones was to sing to opposing fans… Read more »
Not feeling the new kit at all, way too much like Ajax.
Not mad on the yellow away strip either, always much preferred our dark blue away jerseys.
KroenkephobeJuly 16, 2021 17:19:23 A career of two halves really mate Iran, Iraq and Syria on the one hand. As tricky as you can imagine, esp Iran. Mexico, Colombia, Argentina and Brazil on the other. I preferred the latter ones by a long chalk unsurisingly. I once transferred from Tehran to Rio without passing through London. Travelling from one of the least permissive societies to the most was a complete mindfuck. Glad I did it that way rather than the reverse! Rio is a wonderful place but the football in Argentina was always much more fun. I’m definitely going back… Read more »
WengerEagleJuly 16, 2021 17:27:25
PHDI was listing out the signings made by PL clubs in response to NJ Gooner’s post and one of the names must have got snagged in the system.Tried the polka dot approach to no success.
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Darn…
Painful I bet.
Nice one Almunia. Was only wondering there recently if there has ever been a player to be successful over a season in all 5 of the top European Leagues? Cannot think of a single one to check all 5 boxes, best I could think of was Ibrahimovic who had a strong season in every league but the Bundesliga and Obafemi Martins who never played in France but had a semi-decent spell in all 4 of the other top leagues. Could be an ambition of Ronaldo’s before he retires? Lol, nothing would surprise me with the man. A season or two… Read more »
Wengle Eagle
I noticed,there was no talk of the UFC Match between Poirier &McGregor.
No,talk of the result…
Really weird.
I’ll just say this though-I’m not a fan of UFC-but Dustin Poirier seems a really stand up guy.As a personality and as a human being.
Almunia
Was it 84/85 when the toffees won the CWC against rapid vienna? Sheedy, Sharp, Steven, Reid, Ratcliffe, Mountfield and Southall et al. Fantastic high energy group of players who knew each other inside out. A proper team.
Ever been to a game at their place? Like a rundown equally compact version of Highbury in many aspects. Been there twice and had terrible views both times in different parts of the ground. The new Anfield dwarfs Goodison these days.
PHD Not many names thankfully, about 8 or 9 haha. Not many fight fans on here, Cesc Appeal used to be a big one but he hasn’t posted on here in a long time which is a shame. I love to talk NBA, UFC and Tennis as well as football but none of them are particularly popular subjects on here other than football and even at that, you can’t stray too far away from Arsenal talk a lot of the time. Was a great fight for as long as it lasted, I was very wrong in my prediction. Dustin surprised… Read more »
So, no hostage taking in Tehran then?
No not me, but I had a friend and colleague also in the diplomatic service who was arrested by the Iranian police (pasdah?) for several hours because he was playing squash with an Iranian civil pilot. A few months after I left. We all were followed everywhere – properly sinister at times. I breathed a serious sigh of relief on the plane out, looking forward to the relative hedonism of Brazil.
Kroenkephobe, Yeah they won the lge and cwc that season but lost the cup to 10 man utd,our own Kevin Moran was sent off. They were some team alright. Loved Sheedy, immortalised in Irish lore during Italia 90 but was wonderful long before then. Have been to Anfield a few times but never Goodison. Have to say it always looks like a throwback to the really great atmospheric English grounds. I really miss them even if I’m just watching on telly. I love Lukic aswell. Wonderful keeper. Quiz question for you. I think there are 6 players to win the… Read more »
That question is wrong kroenkephobe, it’s eleven players to win the premiership with 2 different clubs and 4 of them were gooners
Underwhelming summer thus far, but boy that Edu is having a whiz bang time of it in Monaco with his buddies! As long as Edu is happy….
FFS
Dick Law might as well still be in charge of transfers. Slower than molasses
Wenger Eagle
I’d say Ibrahimovic is as close as you’ll get. Playing for several top teams was almost unheard of before the prem. Loyalty maybe,but the lack of agents manipulating moves was probably a bigger reason. Mark Hughes played for utd, barca and Bayern before moving to chelsea but they were a different club pre Abramovich.
Even moves like Rush to Juventus were strange. Did you ever hear his famous quote when asked why he couldn’t settle in Italy? He said it was like playing in a foreign country…….
Hey Eagle! Doing good. Married, in a soulless corporate job but hey, at least we’ve got Arsenal to cheer us up, right?
How’s everything going with you!
What’s the banned word?
PHD
I like Poirier, a stand up fella. Good heart. And a true MMA fighter not some wanna be, clown who is a knockout artists who has no other part to his game.
The latest is that he said he had stress fractures before the fight and the UFC knew about it…. what gall! I mean, why fight then to lose and break your leg right? Now, he wants a 4th fight. Give it up man… you are done…. a clown and his legions of fans are just as deluded as those trump supporters
WengerEagleJuly 16, 2021 17:47:30 Was a great fight for as long as it lasted, I was very wrong in my prediction. Dustin surprised me with how aggressive and confident he was and the lack of respect he gave to Conor’s pressure, was absolutely wailing on him like a red-headed step-child before the leg snap Conor should be finished but he will die on the hill of the window of excuse that opened up and push for that 4th fight with Poirier. And is Dustin really going to turn down another mega payday and a likely win? Doubt it —– I… Read more »
Pedro makes himself dizzy surely? Writing about our awful summer transfers so far but Arteta has nothing to do with our summer apparently.
Stick or twist Pedro, which is it.
OzyJuly 16, 2021 18:13:46
What’s the banned word?
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Ozy is the banned word..
Change your name handle to Brocco or Uruguayan Pitbull.
You’ll be fine.
Lol
PS
Just kidding.
PhD
Oliveira will lose if the fight is on its feet. Poirier can knock him out easily. Olivieria can submit Dustin tho and is an excellent jiu jtsu master. All he has to do is take Dustin down and try and submit
However, dustin is well rounded so it can go any way.
Im giving Dustin the edge though. his punching power is strong
Joke Friday.
Stick Pedro,Arteta and Edu in a room each one with pistols-what do you think will happen?
It’ll be a three way gang bang….
Guns of SFJuly 16, 2021 18:51:55 PhDOliveira will lose if the fight is on its feet. Poirier can knock him out easily. Olivieria can submit Dustin tho and is an excellent jiu jtsu master. All he has to do is take Dustin down and try and submit However, dustin is well rounded so it can go any way. Im giving Dustin the edge though. his punching power is strong ——- Ok,cool.. To be fair I haven’t seen enough of Olivieria,so can’t make a call or judgement on that. But will maybe try,if I can to watch some of his matches-if… Read more »
Guns of SFJuly 16, 2021 18:26:50
I agree with everything you’ve said.
Ozy Congrats man! Glad to hear that besides the soulless corporate job part of course 😅 Becomes about paying the bills much more than fulfilling your dreams the older you get eh, sad shit. Oh well as you say at least Arsenal is the gift that keeps on giving. Missed having you on here along with a lot of the other older heads (from back in the days Le Grove was the wild west) that haven’t popped in for forever. All good over here, just trying to navigate through the Covid madness like everyone else really. Christ knows Arsenal are… Read more »
hahaha PhD Yea I try and now watch it with a new mindset versus the old bloodthirsty spectacle- where I just wanted to see those knock outs etc… I like technical well rounded fighters and have a bias towards those who are jiu jitsu masters. Dariush is another, Khabib, Oliveira there is an art there- to submit another man as they kick and punch you – you take a share of a beating but need to think and use your skills on the mat, to submit them- that takes a huge amount of skill and guts… So I am going… Read more »
locatelli would be a dream in our MF. this juve thing is weird. i wonder why they’d be playing hardball w sassuolo knowing we’re waiting in the wings. presumably they’d have to sell ronaldo or multiple players to free up space on their bill… can’t think of anyone on that team who’s on the move
KroenkephobeJuly 16, 2021 17:49:01
So, no hostage taking in Tehran then?No not me, but I had a friend and colleague also in the diplomatic service who was arrested by the Iranian police (pasdah?) for several hours because he was playing squash with an Iranian civil pilot. A few months after I left. We all were followed everywhere – properly sinister at times. I breathed a serious sigh of relief on the plane out, looking forward to the relative hedonism of Brazil.
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Was that under the Shah of Iran’s regime?
anyone can throw kicks and punches galore and hope for a knock out…
Jiu Jitsu is another level of skill and technique. its an art
“There is less than a month left until the new season and our squad is actually WORSE than last season. Incredible.“
I suppose the only question left might be who’s fault that is…………..Wenger or Emery’s.
Almunia
Haha the Brits never travelled particularly well did they? Barring a few exceptions of course as PHD pointed out to me before.
Old Chippy Brady had a very successful spell over in Italy for Juventus especially, much more than Robbie Keane’s spell at Inter Milan anyway. Ian Harte also had a decent time at Levante, he was a seriously underrated player back in the day. Something like 13 international goals from LB, as many as Kevin Doyle/Shane Long.
Joke Friday 2
Stick Pedro,Arteta and Edu in a room each one with pistols-what do you think will happen?
It’ll be a three way gang bang….
With Edu being shot.
Leaving a one-on-one between Pedro and Arteta.
With both firing blanks.
Guns of SFJuly 16, 2021 19:09:04
So I am going to go for Oliveira… v Dustin.. I want to see a submission… those are rare in ufc nowdays
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Khabib was the master of submissions-non?
Great question man. And thanks for not asking me to name the other 7!
Ashley Cole
Gael Clichy
Fabregas
Petit
Put me out of my misery mate.
PHD
yes he was — Khabib is a legend… but he is retired for sure. Purely retired despite Dana White throwing mad money at him.
Much respect to him for sticking to his morals…. not being manipulated by money only
Kroenkephobe, I think you mean pre-PL correct (Iknow, I know, some people forget that football didn’t start in 1992.
I don’t care about the others but these are the Arsenal ones:
Ray Kennedy (Arsenal & Liverpool)
Kevin Richardson (Everton & Arsenal)
John Lukic (Arsenal & Leeds).
WengerEagleJuly 16, 2021 19:14:12
Ian Harte also had a decent time at Levante, he was a seriously underrated player back in the day. Something like 13 international goals from LB,
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Yeah,I thought Ian Harte was a decent left back.Off the top of my head,was he not in the Leeds team under-David”My Babies, My Babies” O’Leary?
Or was that Almunia’s question? I’m easily confused…
Was that under the Shah of Iran’s regime PhD, I might be an old bastard but not that old! The Shah was deposed in 79 when I was about 15. No. I was there in the early 90s when I think the Ayatollah was still alive. His image was on every wall in the city. I once visited the old US embassy in Tehran where you could buy souvenirs of US documents that they had shredded and which had then been resellotaped back together by Iranian convicts and political prisoners. Let that sink in. Someone had to separate out bits… Read more »
PHD Yeah Conor disgraced and embarrassed himself in the build up to the Khabib fight as well as this Dustin fight, the post-fight shite about the wife was completely out of bounds and smacked of desperation. He also tweeted a picture of Dustin’s daughter this week, guy has lost his marbles and has gone off the deep end with the death of his star power and aura. I never would have called myself a massive fan of the guy but his trash talking was entertaining back in the day vs Aldo, Mendes, Diaz, Faber, etc. Much lighter and actually funny.… Read more »
Actually interested to see that full list too, N’Golo Kante on it no doubt as well as Mahrez.
Hi Andy
It was Almunia’s question but I took it to mean in the PL era. Did Mickey T win one as well with Liverpool?
Guns of SFJuly 16, 2021 19:20:40 PHD yes he was — Khabib is a legend… but he is retired for sure. Purely retired despite Dana White throwing mad money at him. Much respect to him for sticking to his morals…. not being manipulated by money only ————- Khabib did a recent interview-I can send you the link if you want. It’s about 30 minutes long.He talks about Connor(throws a few little blows with facts),the potentials,the game,his retirement and how Dana White tried to pressure him to not retire,etc,etc. Do you want me to send the link via here? PS This… Read more »
sure PHd send it over
PHD
David O’Leary- most apps ever for Arsenal.
Proud Irishman at that. We actually have a great history of Irish players at the club.
I dislike Nadal for many reasons but that irritating habit he has of pulling the back of his shorts away from his ring piece because he’s worried about touching cloth rules him our of any goat related considerations for me.💩🍑🎾
Kroenkephobe, I thought it was the Iranian children who put those shredded embassy docs back together according the movie “Argo”.
New Pedro narrative is Emery sold Iwobi, Mhiki and lost Ramsey on a free, so that eliminate all our creative force and thats why Arteta cant fix this mess.
I dont have words for this. Really