ON A BOAT WITH RAUL? REALLY?

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In most big businesses, perception is an absolutely key pillar of operations. In some cases, it’s all that matters. We’re seeing how Facebook is suffering at the moment because they prioritised perception of their business over the actual massive problems they missed in 2016. We’ve seen massive ponzi schemes continue because even though everyone is aware of what is going on, too many big names are involved and the perception of something bad going on would be worse than the financial ruin.

I raise this point because the perception at Arsenal is there’s a real lack of control in the system. Process seems weak, there are few controls on how we move in the market, and there’s a real lack of leadership… which has been a consistent theme.

So, we’re into the most important summer of all time, we’ve signed one player, moved on very few… and where is Edu? On a boat, in Monaco, with our disgraced exFootball Operations guy and his super-agent Kia.

How does that happen? How does someone paid a small fortune to think about how he’s perceived post the evidence to his public Instagram account? Where is the leadership? Who is working for Arsenal saying, ‘Edu, mate, that’s not a good idea.’

It’s the same old same old with Arsenal. Just as you think they are turning a corner, they allow another hugely embarrassing thing to hit the feeds. Edu was caught out on tapes a few months ago in a deeply troubling scandal when he was at Brazil, he’s overseen some rough deals that clearly have ethical questions attached, and now he’s back out on a boat with two of the shadiest characters in football.

Where is Vinai on this? Where is Josh? How does a club as big as Arsenal allow this sort of ‘perception’ issue continue? It’s so infuriating… and to be honest… immature.

How simple is this:

‘If you really have to be on a yacht with someone like Raul, don’t put it on the internet’

The focus of the summer should be about a new Arsenal. It should be about an entire team pushing the club to the next level. Instead, we’re watching Arsenal lose to Hibs and our Technical Director execute more poor judgment and brag about it for likes on the internet.

In other news… it seems the rumour mill is revving up again. Granit Xhaka has apparently attracted a slightly higher bid from Roma. The Italian club has binned about 8 players from their preseason tour. Say what you will about Jose, he doesn’t f*ck around with players he wants out of the club. Doubt he’d have Kola and Willian in his starting 11.

Willian has an image doing the round where he looks like he’s packed on some serious weight. He’s basically showcasing why most 33-year-olds won’t be buying the new away shirt this season. A bit embarrassing that a professional athlete can do that to themselves in such a short space of time… until you remember, Arsenal is his retirement. Guy is so keen to pack things in he sought out a move to Florida. You couldn’t make it up. Fabrizio Romano is digging his heels in on this one, still stating that he’s going to move this summer if the right proposal lands… but like, honestly, who is going to offer the right proposal for him?

The Ben White deal is still rumbling. I honestly think my call the other day was right, we don’t want to deal for a player who is on holiday for 3 more weeks. It’s the reason Roma is slowing proceedings down for Xhaka. Who wants to pay dead wages?

Lokonga paperwork is nearly done, so we’ll at least have upgraded back-up left-back and back-up Ceballos.

There’s some talk about Tammy A being linked with Arsenal. Love the player, but not sure we have room for him with Lacazette and Auba at the club. Not to mention this truth… Balogun didn’t sign to be 4th choice. It’d be super weird for Arsenal to block his path with a young striker. But we’ll see… it was super weird to block Pepe with Willian last season, but that’s what our esteemed boat enthusiast did.

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  1. MD-Gunner

    @Guns
    Read here a comment that basically said “Would I be OK if Arsenal got relegated?” The answer was “Where do I sign up!”

    So whatever it takes to put the Kroenkes in a financial pressure cooker is fine with me. There interest in AFC is not on the same level as their beloved Rams and if they had to choose between one of them it will be the Rams.

    So full tilt boogie to fuck over the Kroenkes.

    Because of the pandemic there is a massive relaxing of the FFP and owners that love their clubs infuse money massively into them as the market is depressed and players can be gotten for discounts. Therefore KSE got to fuck off.

  2. Tony

    MD-Gunner
    Sorry my son sent it to me all excited, as he’s following the TW but I elected to stay detached until pre season games. After that it’s difficult to be detached.

    Thanks for the update I’ll tell my son to check dates in future. He’s 13 so still learning, bless him.

    He can’t wait to post on Le-Grove as well.

  3. PhD2020

    TonyJuly 16, 2021 05:28:15
    PhD2020
    Thanks for the links.We’re still waiting to be vaccinated in Thailand.

    ——
    Will it be the SinoVac from China?

    Or other vaccines-such as Moderna/Pfizer/Astra-Zenecca?

    Did China and/or Japan ship a whole load of vaccines to Thailand?

    All in all,hope you and your family are well and stay safe in between.
    It’s a horrible predicament for everyone around the world to be facing.

  4. Sid

    China1,
    i know several people who have been raised since childhood in a similar environment that have tested positive but have only mild symptoms.

    There are places where levels of pathogen in populations is 35% without vaccination,
    yet the deaths rates are 3 in 10000 cases

  5. Sid

    In short, if you have been raised on a diet of fish and chips, live in a council flat
    Please get vaccinated

  6. S Asoa

    GET VACCINATED. MIGHT STILL BE INFECTED BUT A VERY SMALL CHANCE OF MORTALITY IN VACCINATED PEOPLE.
    👆🏽 FOR THIS REASON GO OUT masked FOR YOUR SAFETY AND OF OTHERS.

    Going about MASKLESS is a sign of immaturity, being less aware and A ARSEHOLE

  7. Tony

    PhD 2020
    “Will it be the SinoVac from China?”

    Morderna although the Thai govt is pushing SinoVac but no one wants it.

    Originally, it was reported here that the govt wanted to make SinoVac here in Thailand.

    So far Morderna and Pfizer have had licenses agreed for Thailand. I believe it’s down to when supplies are available.

    You, too PhD and all Le-Grovers keep safe with your friends and loved ones.

  8. S Asoa

    Dissenter
    ” I can see Ben White scoring 5-19 goals and making at least 15 -20 assists over the course of the next seasonIn Arteta, we …”
    we rot. ( we rust is passe after tail end of Wenger)

  9. MD-Gunner

    Just was checking a subreddit section on Rugby Union and a guy interested in learning the sport just posted this under the title:

    Hello lads, just want to ask some questions to keep learning the sport (Rugby)

    I’m interested in watching the Premiership Rugby for the first time. Just need to know which are the Tottenham’s of the league (bottlers), the most successful one, the exciting underdogs. I would just pick the one that represents my hometown, Reading. But London Irish doesn’t play there anymore?

    Sp*ds do have a reputation 🙂

  10. Dark Hei

    Tony

    For your case, you can consider the Sinovac; I hear the side effects are less profound. Not great protection but it is still something.

    My friends from Indonesia are hesitant to go get their jabs. Firstly it is Snovac which they think don’t work but more importantly the vaccine centers in Indonesia are likely super spreaders given the chaotic scenes.

  11. Guns of SF

    Pedro
    on the topic of moving targets, dont you think Edu and Co should have had this already lined up a few months ago? What happened to all the new scouts we hired? I am sure there is a short list of names…. not the initial massive list….
    How hard is it within a week or 2, to get some feelers out and offers made? I think the issue is that we low ball and when we get rejected, we move on down the list. Until we land someone… who we lowballed….
    Its a very strange way to do things…. so far there is no rhyme or reason to anything tho
    White for 50 is nuts
    Aouar, Maddison, Loca, Cama,
    all were available and some still are….

    The boat with Kia and Raul stinks out the place man…..
    Its like shady as F

    I am not sure what is so hard about this for Edu…. really..
    Its like he is a fucking idiot or something

  12. China1

    For example if we have a starting 11 like this

    ——————Leno
    Qualidy-Holding-Gabriel-Tierney
    ————-Qualidee-Partey
    Saka————-ESR————Pepe
    ——————-Auba

    Bench options
    Keeper?
    Mari
    Chambers
    Tavares
    Lokonga
    Willock
    Martinelli
    Laca
    Balogun

    Ofc we all want there to be an attacking midfielder and it’s highly probably we get white, but I’d rather we focus on those points above first

  13. PhD2020

    RichJuly 16, 2021 05:38:57
    China1
    In the first metaanalysis of its kind, published on 26 August in Obesity Reviews, an international team of researchers pooled data from scores of peer-reviewed papers capturing 399,000 patients. They found that people with obesity who contracted SARS-CoV-2 were 113% more likely than people of healthy weight to land in the hospital, 74% more likely to be admitted to an ICU, and 48% more likely to die.
    ———————–

    Rich-AKA BJ(Blowie J)

    The source you cited -Obesity Reviews from the 26th August would have been published around 2020,last year-right?

    Since we’ve yet to hit August 2021,and the virus impacted the world around Dec 2019/Jan 2020. So,it’s plausible that review was not published in 2019,which through a process of elimination leaves us to conclude in all likelihood, that it was published around August 2020.It would be interesting to know who backs the Obesity Review upon further scrutiny.

    That said, publication of that review would have been around the time-when the alpha variant would have emerged in the UK around October 2019(or later),sending the UK into lockdown around January 2020.Other countries such as Europe followed,with severe cases of the alpha variant decimating populations in Spain,Italy and the USA to name but a few countries.

    Pre-conditions,age and obesity might have been the case accounting for high hospitalisations,infections and mortality rates..

    But as the virus has undergone various genetic changes during replication, some mutations or variants can be innocuous, others can be more malicious.The alpha variant was the least malicious and the one referred to in the journal that you cited circa August 2020.

    Since then,we’ve had the beta variant-whose origination was from South Africa.
    The Gamma variant from Brazil/Japan and now the most strident of the variants to date(2021)-the delta from India.

    The vaccines offered at the time-2020 ,have not been effective in dealing with the delta variant that we are experiencing in July 2021.Your review is a year out of date.

    The delta variant has been found to be more than 55% more transmissible than the alpha variant and almost twice as infectious as the original strain-i.e the alpha variant.

    Doctors in India have linked delta to a broader array of Covid symptoms, including hearing impairment, and early data from Scotland found Covid patients infected by delta were 1.8 times more likely to hospitalised than those with an alpha infection.

    Other evidence found delta had some propensity to evade antibody-based treatments and carries an increased risk of reinfection in people who have recovered from Covid caused by another strain.

    Anyway,my point being-your cited review from August 26th(2020)is out of date.

    —–
    PS
    You do the homework.

  14. Aussie+Gooner

    Up until recently we have only had the Astra Zeneca vaccine available here locally. Our employer has been urging us to get the jab from a local clinic. I have been holding out for the Pfizer vaccine which has only just become available, with a huge waiting list. However a couple of days ago they announced that all the prisoners where I work will be getting the Pfizer vaccine! What does this tell you about the efficacy and safety of the Astra Zeneca vaccine (many prisoners have a lot of co-morbidities)?

  15. Emiratesstroller

    MD-Gunner

    Saracens who have just been promoted to Premiership are favourites to win title next season despite their punishment for financial irregularity.

    They have a very strong and balanced squad full of internationals including 5 British Lions.
    There are also a number of very talented young players coming through the system such as
    Malins, Earl and Tompkins.

    The definition of bottlers [aga Spurs] does not really apply in Rugby. The financial fair play
    rules are more rigidly applied in rugby and the relegation and financial punishment was a
    serious warning to any club that breaks the rules.

  16. Habesha Gooner

    Wow, Pedro has drunk the Arteta koolaid so much that he is championing ridiculous ideas. We have already spent about 75 mil considering white will be done. So pedro is hoping we are going to spend 75 mil more??? And with out sales either??

    We do need to sell to buy. If money was no object, Last summer we wouldn’t have chosen either one or the other on Partey and Aouar. What I am guessing will happen is this. If we sell AMN, Nketiah and Bellerin with Xhaka and Guendouzi already being gone, then we can sign all of those targets pedro mentioned. A RB won’t be coming this summer. And it will also depend on willock being sold for good money. If these sales don’t happen, then I am pretty sure we won’t spend 150 mil with 50 mil in sales. We do sell a few more though I can just about see a net spend of 70 mil. Not more than that.

  17. PhD2020

    Aussie+GoonerJuly 16, 2021 07:06:09
    Up until recently we have only had the Astra Zeneca vaccine available here locally. Our employer has been urging us to get the jab from a local clinic. I have been holding out for the Pfizer vaccine which has only just become available, with a huge waiting list. However a couple of days ago they announced that all the prisoners where I work will be getting the Pfizer vaccine! What does this tell you about the efficacy and safety of the Astra Zeneca vaccine (many prisoners have a lot of co-morbidities)?

    —–
    I could not tell you.You’d really need to speak to a respected medical professional.Not a local MP or a politician.

    That said,operating in a confined environment where isolating and quarantining might be somewhat of an issue,taking into account overcrowding, ventilation issues, hygiene, sanitation are a recipe for spreading of the virus.Allied to the fact-statistically speaking, of people incarcerated, tend to have higher rates of many physical and mental comorbidities.

    Taking an Astra Zeneca or Pfizer vaccine,is a debatable question,as to whether one or the other, really alters the odds significantly in terms of being immune or less exposed,in an environment that is prone to an outbreak of infectious diseases according to medical studies.They’re both experimental drugs (at this stage)where one is shown to have side effects,less than the other.In about five years time or more,you’ll have a better insight.

    Sorry,could not be of much help.As,I said in the beginning,better of speaking with a medical practitioner or a doctor in your family who you trust implicitly.

  18. curse

    cheers Elmo, Marc already came up to cloud cuck’ barking his head off lol.

    real shame if we can’t move on a half decent striker.

  19. China1

    Aussie it doesn’t necessarily tell you anything about the safety and efficacy

    Surely the safety and efficacy should be judged by the test results and real world data, not by what someone at your company decided???

  20. China1

    You really think some senior decision maker at your company knows some secret info about the safety of one vaccine vs another? The decisions will have been based on all the same info available to everyone else and may have been based on any number of other factors such as convenience, price, availability etc

    If such secret info that isn’t widely available was being shared secretly I seriously doubt it would be getting told to prison officials. The ‘powers that be’ would surely have bigger plans than to try and cause one or two mild and rare side effects in a few prisoners. There are much better ways of wiping out prisoners than that, surely

  21. China1

    Data so far has suggested Pfizer offers a slightly stronger immune response. There is an extremely remote possibility of side effects with either but more so from AstraZeneca. But if an astronomically small chance of being killed by the AstraZeneca one worries you, you should be more worried about the much larger probability of covid killing you

  22. PhD2020

    China1July 16, 2021 07:53:03
    Aussie it doesn’t necessarily tell you anything about the safety and efficacySurely the safety and efficacy should be judged by the test results and real world data, not by what someone at your company decided???
    —-
    I think his concern was-up until recently they only had the AZ jab,and possibly where he works,the staff and the inmates were stuffed with the AZ drug.

    Suddenly there’s been a sharp turn-around by the powers that be,and they are now proffering Pfizer.He’s thinking what’s behind the change of policy?Is there something untoward?

    That’s my take at least.I might be completely wrong gauging from his post.From my perspective,he seems concerned,that the authorities might be onto something that he is not aware of.

    It would be interesting to hear his take,if he replies back.

    Either way,I stand corrected.

  23. China1

    But PHD ‘stuffed with the AZ drug’ is highly loaded language

    AZ has shown itself to be a good and safe vaccine which is pretty effective with only *incredibly* small numbers of reported serious side effects.

    It’s not like AZ is some roulette which is killing or maiming 20% of everyone who takes it. It’s saving lives.

    The general data has consistently suggested that Pfizer is a little more effective. If you give me a choice right now I’d take Pfizer too. It appears to be the best option so far and I’d choose it for my family if asked.

    It makes perfect sense that Pfizer might be someone/a company/ a governments first choice. That in no way means AZ isn’t a very good vaccine tho. There’s absolutely no data thus far from testing or global real world examples that suggests AZ is anything less than a good vaccine. It’s also easier to store at higher temperatures than Pfizer which could impact the convenience and logistics of administering it.

    In other words as of now, there’s no reason to think AZ is either a bad or dangerous vaccine – and since we know it’s pretty good, I’d suggest it’s worth ‘settling for’ if you can’t get Pfizer.

    I want Pfizer myself rather than the local ones here which is why I haven’t taken any yet. But if AZ became available here tomorrow (no foreign ones here so far) I’d gladly take it and be done with it

  24. PhD2020

    China1July 16, 2021 08:00:57

    You’re entitled to your opinion and so be it..

    By the way-how’s the Covid infection rate,hospitalisations and mortality rates in China currently at?

    Given three quarter’s of the world are experiencing a third wave and the majority of Asian countries surrounding mainland China are suffering the worst rates of Covid since it’s inception?

    I mean as an example- Japan and South Korea(significant developed countries) with it’s stringent border controls and state of emergencies implemented under the current climate,is still experiencing a torrid third wave.

    Just curious,how the country you are currently residing in,is managing to have it under reasonable control.The information sharing would benefit the world at large,if not the neighbouring countries in close proximity to you-right?

  25. China1

    The way I’d put it is this

    We went from thousands a day being killed by covid to dozens after our massive UK vaccine rollout – from which AZ was an enormous contributor

    Meanwhile how many people have died or reported really serious side effects like hospitalization and death after taking it?

    What % of double vaccinated people with AZ have got covid again and what % of those have been hospitalized or killed by it?

    Until someone can answer those questions with concerning data I’ll remain supportive of it as a good vaccine

  26. Mr Serge

    China does not have it under control if the countries surrounding do not they just choose to lie or not share the data.

    Unless they did invent it and as such have a far better antidote to it which I doubt.

  27. Sid

    “”””””””Dark HeiJuly 16, 2021 06:38:47
    SidLets just say Dybala isn’t likely to have a diet of fish and chips but Covid still hit him real hard.”””””””””””

    ‘In Argentina 6% of the adult population meets the recommended serving of fruits and vegetables’

    ‘Consumption of added sugar has been on the rise in Argentina compared to other latin countries’

  28. Mr Serge

    I had AZ as have a few friends none of us have ever had covid and we live in London. TBF apart from the school run I only go out once a month with friends and a couple of times with the Mrs.as I work from home now and have done since mar 2020

  29. China1

    It is almost non-existent here and has been since about June last year. Besides having to scan QR code’s to show your health status in certain places and sometimes needing to wear a mask we’ve had virtually no restrictions since last summer

    The way it was brought under control was with an extremely heavy hand early on. We had one long lockdown from Jan-April or so last year to get the numbers down to 0 give or take. No foreigners were allowed into the country (Chinese only). Chinese who did come in had to do 14 days quarantine and take several tests (this dates right back to maybe February or March last year and has never been eased). By the time of u locking masks were mandatory everywhere and everyone had to scan a QR code every time you entered a building (and have your temperature taken at the door). If you had been in any place that had a case, mini lockdowns would immediately commence – like there was a single case at my local hospital in December and my entire district of 2 million people was locked down for 3 days and everyone got tested twice.

    So the truth is irrespective of any issues at the beginning, it’s been controlled here by taking a sledgehammer to it and when the situation calmed down that sledgehammer has permanently sat there ready to come down at the slightest sniff of a resurgence

  30. China1

    Mr Serge is actually is very much under control here because it’s managed much more stringently than almost anywhere else whether you choose to believe that is up to you

    I had a fever last summer one time and had to go to the covid clinic. It was absolutely empty. Doctors standing around in ham at suits playing on their phones. No patients. I was there for an hour doing multiple tests and saw one other person in that time. And that was at the main hospital of a major district in a city more populous than London.

  31. China1

    If you had symptomatic covid here you’d have an incredibly hard time hiding it

    Your temperature is taken every time you enter every building. Considering 99% of people live in apartment buildings, this means 99% of people can’t even go to the local supermarket for a loaf of bread without having your temp checked twice. And if it is high it’s going to be noted and watched like a hawk

  32. Leftside

    Ornstein:

    Mikel Arteta holds Martin Ødegaard in high regard. Although the ball is not in their court, Arsenal want to be ready if Ødegaard finds himself on the market again. Arsenal might wait until August to see if he gets game time at Madrid under Carlo Ancelotti.

    ….

  33. Leftside

    @TheAthleticUK
    on Arsenal’s pursuit of a playmaker: “It doesn’t look as if this position will be sorted imminently

  34. Leftside

    There are those within Arsenal who believe Houssem Aouar represents an affordable option because Ligue 1 teams are under increased financial pressure, but there is no longer a consensus on him. So far, Arsenal have not gone back to Lyon with a bid.
    @TheAthleticUK

  35. Sid

    Apart from Diet, housing and healthcare systems,

    Countries that are genetically diverse also have an advantage.

  36. Terraloon

    Just catching up with some of the overnight “ Banter”

    I spent/wasted an hour or so just looking at what KSE are reported and in particular Kronke jnr has said about spending money on players this window.

    The words used suggest that there will be an investment and that there are big plans. Those that attended fans forum and staff meetings were given the impression that there would be investment and yes the assumption, not state fact, is that included investment in the squad was what he meant but even then numbers weren’t mentioned.

    So where are we?

    Well post the fans forum/ staff briefing post the ESL collapse yes there has been a big investment to the tune of at least £120 million alas this investment has been financed by loans .Kronke jnr for me has been very selective in what he has said and many have put 2+2 together thinking big investment meant big transfer funds

    Marc is right despite what so many suggest the losses that probably will be suffered in the trading year just ending will be almost certainly over £100 million and without CL monies or even EL money for season 21/22 it’s going to take a remarkable effort to turn those losses to profit and in terms of cash it’s highly likely that any incomings will have to be financed via transfers out , borrowings and of course underpinned by way of selling clubs agreeing to paying fees on the never never which kicks the minor issue of paying the bulk of the fee down the road.But hey what’s another £100 million or so debt between friends.

    Nett transfer spend is one thing but it’s the cash / debt position that slowly but surely is becoming Arsenals biggest risk and whilst it’s cheap to borrow money at this time the balance sheet at a football club , particularly a club like Arsenal with huge fixed costs, becomes an ever increasing concern when income streams shrink and that’s where Arsenal find themselves at this time

    For me the transfer spend could be £10 million £50 million or a £100 million the numbers to a degree are irrelevant it’s all about getting value for money and only a blind man would suggest that massive investment that Arsenal have facilitated over the last 4-5 years has delivered value for money.So me for one question the clubs leaders to be able to get value for money

    It really amuses me that some talk about Tarvares being a good signing, he may turn out to be but prior to his name cropping up we’re any putting his name in the frame ? The simple answer is no and if any other club had purchased him I somehow doubt any on here would see it as a worry. Benfica it is said are laughing all the way to the bank.

    We will have to wait and see what further additions are made to the squad but underpinning that has to be departures and based on what is being reported the £100+ million some were suggesting would be incoming looks a long way off.

  37. andy1886

    FFS, so we’re going to hang on until the last minute and hope that Odegaard becomes available? Call that a plan? Dumb.

    Also worth remembering that Odegaard doesn’t want to come back, he prefers to wait for his chance in Madrid. Why chase a player who doesn’t actually want to play for you? Dumb and dumber.

  38. China1

    Lol tr7

    Feel free to ask absolutely any westerner you know who lives here

    If you can find one single person who tells you anything different then I’ll eat my own face…

    A question to ask yourself is this, if entire districts will lockdown millions of people for days and require every single person (including children as young as toddlers) to take multiple tests because of one breakout case, how do you propose the virus would get any traction to spread uncontrolled here?

    There are no green or Amber list countries either. As far as China is concerned the whole world is red list. 2 weeks quarantine (enforced at government controlled hotels which you are taken to directly from the airport – no ‘please stay at home after you arrive’ scenarios.

    Based on the wide spread and heavy measures here, a better question is how would the virus spread uncontrolled here?

  39. TR7

    China you yourself admitted that you couldn’t criticise the country you live in as even your online posts are possibly getting tracked. So pardon me for taking anything you say about China with a bucket load of salt. Besides, there’s a general consensus among scientists that Covid-19 is not a natural virus, it’s made in a lab. Everything was a bit hush hush earlier for obvious political reasons, skeletons are tumbling out of the cupboard now.

  40. Leftside

    In the cases of Ben White, Aaron Ramsdale & indeed all their transfers, Arsenal hope to make use of add-ons to mitigate immediate cost. Some of these are contingent on achievements such as Champions League qualification.
    @TheAthleticUK

  41. PhD2020

    China1July 16, 2021 08:26:16
    It is almost non-existent here and has been since about June last year
    ————————————–
    Sorry dude,absolute bollocks…

    I know for a fact,PRC nationals are travelling en masse to neighbouring countries-albeit on business visas..And blatantly doing open bus sightseeing tours with no regard.Whilst the locals,are thinking what the f**ck,when they are in lockdown.

    But still,having no regard for other countries border controls.In short,flouting or gaming the system.

    That said,the massive high volume of importation of urns from a neighbouring country.That has far exceeded the norm in previous years.

    We’ll leave it at that.

  42. PhD2020

    TR7July 16, 2021 08:51:00
    China you yourself admitted that you couldn’t criticise the country you live in as even your online posts are possibly getting tracked. So pardon me for taking anything you say about China with a bucket load of salt. Besides, there’s a general consensus among scientists that Covid-19 is not a natural virus, it’s made in a lab. Everything was a bit hush hush earlier for obvious political reasons, skeletons are tumbling out of the cupboard now.
    ——
    Thank you.

  43. Leftside

    According to Ornstein, our two main midfield targets are Locatelli who desires a move to Juventus and Odegaard, who has returned to Real Madrid. We’re playing a dangerous waiting game here, when there are attainable targets who would be more willing to play for Arsenal that we can get in imminently.

    I’m sure I recalled Arteta bullishly stating that he shouldn’t have to convince players to join Arsenal or am I making that up? Just one reason in an evergrowing list of why I can’t take this man serious.

    P.S Hope your enjoying your self on holiday Edu

  44. China1

    You’re right on that TR7, I can’t criticize China

    But if you’ll go back and check I also said I can say positives I just will not say negatives.

    Nothing compels me to say anything at all, so the default assumption should be this:

    1) if I say positives or describe things here, I mean them. I don’t need to say them, I am choosing to because they are true or I genuinely believe them
    2) if I don’t say negatives it doesn’t imply one way or the other what I think because maybe I have no opinion or maybe I do and don’t wish to comment for obvious reasons

    In any case, I would encourage you to find other westerners living here and ask them. You don’t need opinions from me, I’m only saying what is well known by everyone living here.

    As for what the exact or real number of cases are here since the start of the pandemic, I’ve no idea and wouldn’t like to comment (take that part however you wish). But as for how it’s been brought under control and what measures are in place, these are simply facts which everyone living here will know about.

    For example if you really cared to, I’m sure you could search online about coming to China right now and see what the current restrictions are etc. no need to take my word for it.

  45. TR7

    Anyone who reads business newspapers and follows economics journals/articles knows that the export and industrial production numbers coming out from China aren’t possible under a stringent lockdown.

    It’s a shame that China is so powerful that it’s crime against humanity will go unpunished. Even Pedro will delete all my posts on China because they don’t align with the narrative of woke lefties. Lies, lies and lies all around.

  46. PhD2020

    TR7July 16, 2021 09:00:29
    Anyone who reads business newspapers and follows economics journals/articles knows that the export and industrial production numbers coming out from China aren’t possible under a stringent lockdown.
    ——
    Yes,yes,yes..Totally agree.Someone who get its.

  47. TR7

    I am pleasantly surprised that you agree with my take PhD. I thought you would be vehemently contesting my stand given my narrative goes against the stand of leftists/centrists who usually defend China with a lot of fervour.

  48. China1

    TR7 ‘no comment’ on the accuracy of the numbers but know that the hard long term lockdown ended last year around April or so. Now the only lockdowns tend to be based on local districts and are limited to 1 week or less with mass testing to isolate cases immediately

    In other words life here is virtually completely normal and industry is entirely up and running.

    But regarding the accuracy of specific figures. They’re certainly interesting…….

  49. andy1886

    TR7, really, ‘lefties’ don’t defend China in the slightest, absolute hogwash. ‘Lefties’ have been protesting against Chinese human rights abuses for decades while your mates on the right of politics were working out how best they could profit from them.

    Regards the origins of Covid I’m open minded. There isn’t a consensus amongst scientists as you claim and while it may be proven at some time in the future the evidence simply isn’t there right now to back up your claim.

  50. PhD2020

    PhD2020July 16, 2021 09:06:35
    TR7July 16, 2021 09:00:29
    Anyone who reads business newspapers and follows economics journals/articles knows that the export and industrial production numbers coming out from China aren’t possible under a stringent lockdown.
    —–
    I really don’t wish to say too much.

    But two false economies running.

    HK-Security laws implemented for a reason…The financials.FX to prop up an economy.

    Taiwan-Largest manufacturer of semi-conductor chips.
    Next target-Prop up the economy.

    Financial reporting out of the mainland-for years massaged.

    Data mining …

  51. PhD2020

    TR7July 16, 2021 09:12:55
    I am pleasantly surprised that you agree with my take PhD. I thought you would be vehemently contesting my stand given my narrative goes against the stand of leftists/centrists who usually defend China with a lot of fervour.
    —-
    You’ve just misunderstood at times I think.

    I’m reasonably balanced.. 🙂

  52. PhD2020

    China1July 16, 2021 09:16:33
    PHD why do I have a strong feeling I shouldn’t be clicking on that link lol
    —-
    Because you’re in fear of being confronted with reality..

    But I understand,the environment you are operating from.

    My favourite saying:-“Suspension of Disbelief”

  53. China1

    Yo I can’t and wont take part in such conversations

    Have a nice morning/afternoon/evening

    Will be back later for football talk

  54. PhD2020

    andy1886July 16, 2021 09:22:06

    Refer to this links below and see if you might think differently?

    Doesn’t have to alter your thinking entirely,but maybe gives you another view lens to look at the situation from a different perspective.

    https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1407623748870606849

    https://twitter.com/jbloom_lab/status/1407445604029009923

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.18.449051v1
    (full pdf article deleted recently-I wonder why?)

  55. TR7

    ‘Regards the origins of Covid I’m open minded. There isn’t a consensus amongst scientists as you claim and while it may be proven at some time in the future the evidence simply isn’t there right now to back up your claim.’

    Evidence ? Chances are we will never have proper ‘evidence’ to support the claim that China is the conspirator and originator of Covid-19 simply because we are talking about perhaps the most powerful country in the world along side the USA as a potential mischief maker. Sometimes you need to read between the lines, numbers, information and facts and arrive at an informed conclusion.

  56. WengerEagle

    Crazy that you cannot even criticise the Chinese government in the safe haven of Le Grove online if you are living there, that’s a rough one.

    I actually thought that they had an outright ban on the internet, not sure how China accesses LG exactly but glad he does nonetheless.

  57. andy1886

    PhD2020, I’ll have to take a look at those later, I’m on my work laptop so clicking on links is strictly ‘verboten’.

    I’m more inclined to take peer reviewed papers seriously than agenda driven output from either side of the argument. And I’m certainly not taking any government backed information at face value (Chris Whitty, I’m looking at you, when you accept a government appointment impartiality goes out the window).

    What I will add is that this pandemic wasn’t just predictable but highly likely. In recent memory we’ve had the original SARS, Swine Flu, Bird Flu and others I’ve probably forgotten. In the 2016 the UK ran a pandemic preparedness review ‘Exercise Sygnus’ that highlighted what were described as ‘critical shortcomings’ in the system in the event of a global pandemic. Needless to say the government failed to act on the basis of ‘cost’. Something that they’ve quietly brushed under the carpet following subsequent events.

  58. Kroenkephobe

    TR7
    I’m an avowed leftie and proud of it. Your suggestion that people like me support China is risible and evidently ignorant. Cultural revolution my arse – it was genocide by Mao of his own people! Are you another one whose world view is entirely composed of Daily Mail lies? Start reading proper research and think for yourself.

    For fucks sake, has it never occurred to you that state capitalist China is as corrupt, secretive and inequal as the west? What else are you going to accuse us of? Are you in the thrall of Trump, Bojo, Bolsonaro and Putin? No, thought not. Or maybe you are….

    Oh hang on – it’s joke Friday isn’t it.

  59. Globalgunner

    Nobody writing on this blog knows anything about the origins of COVID 19. So people should stop stating as fact what they have no clue about. The only thing that’s certain is that Man has concocted stuff crazier and deadlier than this virus sitting in several labs in many countries. Only thing we can hope that it WAS`NT a leak. If it was. then God help us that the other stuff wont escape either.

    Is Xhaka gone yet?.

  60. Mb

    It’s all just the nature’s way of saying, stop fu*king around and don’t reach 10 billion.

    Survival of the fittest guys 😉

  61. Kroenkephobe

    Weagle
    Li Xinping is a mass murderer but is also a huge Gooner. I met him in the 90s at that 7-0 away win in Liege in the CWC. We were both pissed as farts – well I was. That’s why he allows Pedro to spin his magic.

    If I disappear from this site, I’ll have been zapped by a drone or a nuke aimed by China at Wales.

  62. Mb

    Sid

    If you are not allowed to show your discomfort with anything, yes that will happen.

    I’m not saying western countries are happier though.

  63. NORG

    Kroenke

    Perhaps you could persuade your Chinese friend to approve the purchase of AFC in the next 5 year plan. No doubt they would insist that Willian runs off his pot belly.

  64. TR7

    Kroenkephobe

    ‘Start reading proper research and think for yourself.’

    Is it mandatory to be supercilious and condescending to be a leftist ? I am very very well read. Thanks for your unsolicited piece of advice nonetheless.

  65. Almuniasaynomore

    A secret bunker deep beneath the bowels of the Emirates.
    Early last week.
    Mikel Arteta sitting alone at a desk when there’s a knock on the door.
    MA: Password?
    Edu: Generational.
    (Door opens)
    Boss,it’s good to see you. But why this word for password,I don’t understand.
    MA: What fool would ever associate us with that word?
    Edu:Ah, I see, clever! But what is this place boss?
    MA: It is my hideout. Wenger had it built after the 8-2 at Old Trafford. He used to spend all the transfer windows here. But enough history. Tell me,how is our strategy progressing? Did you sort out a left back like I asked? Remember I warned you not to make a dog’s bollocks of it!
    Edu: Left back, dog’s bollocks, sorted boss.
    MA: Good,good. And midfield?
    Edu: You’re going to love this one boss. I’ve got a young lad from Anderlecht, you know,managed by Man City captain and legend Vincent Kompany? I asked him why he hadn’t tipped City off if the player was so good but he smiled at me and told me it was our secret!
    MA: Yes,Pep had told me of this player also. We have pulled the wool over their bums as they say in England! What of Willian? Did you pass on my message to him? He must show more stomach for the fight this season!
    Edu: More stomach, yes boss,I told him. He won’t let you down.
    MA: This is good. We are making the progress. But what of the keeper situation? Fucking Martinez is embarrassing me,I told you to call heads when we tossed that coin last year.
    Edu: Yes boss,sorry boss. But I’ve got rid of Runnarson.
    MA: You did,how?
    Edu: Same trick we pulled with Ozil,sent him to Turkey on full wage,covered by us with a little something for the club who took him off our hands.
    MA: Brilliant! But who have we got left? That Judas Leno isn’t back yet and we’ve a game next week on Scotland.
    Edu: It’s ok boss, we’ve a young lad coming through, top drawer.
    MA: Is he good with his feet?
    Edu: Brilliant boss,I’d stake my reputation on it!
    MA: High praise indeed. We are making real progress my friend. Now all we need is a CAM. Did you get the package I asked for?
    Edu: Yes boss,right here.
    MA: This contains everything we need to choose our marquee signing. You are sure it’s the right one?
    Edu: Yes boss, Fifa 21,playstation version.
    MA: At last! They scoffed at me but I will show them my cleverisness. You may go my friend, but remember to keep a low profile!
    Edu: Yes boss.
    MA: Those bastards Raul and Kia thought they were jumping a sinking ship. Leaving us all at sea. But the Arsenal tide shall rise again. And then maybe we shall rock their boat! You understand my friend?
    Edu: Eh………..yes boss.

  66. Kroenkephobe

    TR
    If that’s the case, where did the lazy, laughable trope about lefties supporting China come from then? Or was it just (poor) ‘bantz’?

    With your unwoke, non virtue signalling, melted snowflake politics, you’re FAR more likely to be a fan boy for China than I am.

  67. Emiratesstroller

    Let’s revert back to football rather than talk endlessly about Covid.

    Xhaka will be leaving the club this summer and that is an almost dead cert now. So as a first team regular in the DMF role he needs to be replaced.

    The three players who have been discussed as replacements are:
    LOCATELLI [AGED 23]
    NEVES [AGED 24]
    BISSOUMA [AGED 25 in August]

    Locatelli is clearly a very good player and athlete with world class potential. The impression
    is that he would prefer to move to Juventus and in any event I suspect that any move to Arsenal if we were successful would be short term. So I would discount this player.

    Neves is a similar type of player to Xhaka although rated a better all-round footballer. He has
    played several years in EPL and therefore can adjust fairly quickly and also Arsenal now have on their books a growing number of Portuguese speakers in Soares, Tavares, Martinelli
    and Gabriel. The downside is the price that Wolves will demand as his contract expires in June 2024.

    Bissouma aged 25 in August is clearly a favourite with a lot of supporters including those who post on Le Grove. He is a fearless tackler and a very good footballer. The downside is
    that we are likely to buy White from Brighton and he will be playing in the New Year in the
    Africa Cup.

    So the million dollar question is who is the most likely replacement for Xhaka?

  68. shaun

    I agree with all of the above & sid as well .I don’t agree with by tammy Abraham at all .I don’t understand why people don’t get it .If you keep buying what’s deemed as not good enough for your rivals do you somehow think that is going to make you better than your rivals .That is some strange logic.we have had chech,Luiz and willian and now you want Abraham and not only that you want to spend 40 mill on him again a sackable offense in my book. Keep laca we know what’s gonna happen there as I said before Laca will bring fire this season as he has real incentive of that I am pretty sure and so will Balagon if given the chance .The guy I am worried about is Auba as his hair looks to be thinning out and that could be a big issue .dumb and dumber get us Abraham and white I would want to string them up

  69. DivineSherlock

    Emiratestroller

    I would go for Sabitzer , relatively cheap and has played in a fast tempo and high intensity team . Good with pressing and physical presence too. Sabitzer and one more CM would be my pick.

  70. Kroenkephobe

    Almunia,
    Wotcha mate. Tragicomedy at its finest. I’m picturing them both wearing brown overalls a la ‘open all hours’. That depressing northern sitcom with Ronnie Barker and David Jason.

    I know the dogma on here requires us all to be insanely positive but it feels like we’re fucked up a rope this summer. Feels ripe for early regime change. Watching that Rangers game tomorrow? I’m not sure I will after Hibs.

  71. Goobergooner

    ES,

    I am just so underwhelmed with white signing for us unless we do get a proper partner for partey.

    This process is meant to take a few seasons, so with that in mind, why are we not fixing the actual holes in the squad; especially considering we are losing xhaka, before spending a massive amount of dough on a centre back, which clearly is the least of our problems (well to me anyway).

    If we insist on playing from the back, get in the midfielders who make themselves available, who can break the lines with quick feet or a bit of tiki taka, who are comfortable taking a ‘riskier’ forward pass knowing that they aren’t going to get steamrolled if it doesn’t pay off.

    Xhaka is great at a long ball, when he has time and space. Under pressure it is majority of the time played backwards to our cbs or fullbacks and then the slow play starts over.

    Give partey someone to play off and hold the ground beside him and our play out of the back will increase by a greater margin than getting in a ball playing CB who still won’t have anyone Infront of him.

    The tw isn’t even really started for us yet, but I just don’t have as much optimism as you that we will get in the ‘right’ players to improve as much as we need to get back into the cl.

    I don’t think this squad is that far off pushing for the top 4. But by the way things are playing out so far, and from the ‘itk’ crowd posting about our transfer business, I just don’t think we are going in the right direction at all.

    And I’ll say it again, both edu and tets were CMS. How have they been happy with that shit show the last couple of seasons???? It beggars belief

  72. Emiratesstroller

    Goobergooner

    Arsenal need a new Centre Back to replace Luiz. Frankly I have not seen enough about White
    to make a judgment. I must confess that the fee seems very high.

    However, there seem to be an awful lot of so-called experts who rate him highly and quality
    CBs in today’s market are “gold dust”.

    Replacing Xhaka is also a priority, because the only remaining option our books is Elneny and he is not remotely a first team starter.

  73. Elmo

    Almunia

    There’s definitely a sketch on that yacht in Monte Carlo.
    However, not sure whether the Kia / Raul hierarchy is best portrayed as a Graham Taylor / Phil Neal relationship in ‘The Impossible Job’, or if it’s more like Michael Corleone being screened by sharp, savvy consigliere Tom Hagen in ‘The Godfather’.

  74. Goobergooner

    If white has the leadership qualities of Luiz then yeah I see your point.
    And I do agree that quality CBs are becoming more influential and definitely going for more insane price tags by the window.

    For the longer term, he would be great for some solidity back there.

    But I just can’t see us doing what’s required in other departments to take us the step forward we properly need.

    And we have been sorely lacking in midfield for years.

    I will reserve the proper judgement til the tw closes, but if white is our marquee we are in for another long season in my opinion.

    I just really would love to know what Saliba did to tets to cop the treatment he has.

  75. PhD2020

    China1July 16, 2021 08:19:20
    The way I’d put it is this
    We went from thousands a day being killed by covid to dozens after our massive UK vaccine rollout – from which AZ was an enormous contributor
    ——-
    This is quite an interesting revealing bit of information given by China1.He said by his quotes:”They went from being k.i.l.l.e.d by the thousands per day to dozens after the massive UK vaccine rollout.”

    The UK vaccine rollout did not commence until December 2020..The UK vaccine rollout to the P.R.C. at a conservative estimate,probably occurred circa Jan 2021.

    Covid -19 started spreading rapidly by Dec 2019(earlier in some reports).

    So,if according to China1,mortality rates were occurring at an average r.a.t.e. of 1000 per day from December 2019 till December 2020/Jan 2021 until the UK vaccine rollout was received,which suddenly reduced the mortality rate to dozens-we are basically talking about 1000x 52/56 weeks which amounts to circa 52,000-56,000 deaths at a conservative estimate over that time period.

    This estimate is far and above the mortality rate recorded by the P.R.C. via the w.meters website.Which has their mortality recorded till now at 4,636, placing them 6th in table and not in 102nd place.

    That number has been under represented by a multiple of 14-at the very least.

    Someone is being economical with the truth.

    And via other reputable sources,the mortality rate is believed to be approaching if not in the 100,000’s, then in the millions.

    Just highlighting the poster’s numbers and the time line quoted till the UK vaccine rollout in Dec 2020/Jan 2021

    Here’s the link to the table below

  76. PhD2020

    You’ll have to do the https:// before world

    The system does not allow for me to post the full link.

    Again,my post kept getting rejected-hence the full stops between some of the words as I thought they were the trigger words preventing the post from going through.

  77. Kroenkephobe

    Goober
    Nice one. But imagine how rich you’d be as a circus act if you were the world’s first pregnant man? The actual birth would make you wince a bit though…

  78. Globalgunner

    Arsenal do NOT need to replace Luiz. We had tooo many CBs then and we have enough now unless someone is leaving. If we ever get rid of Willian, someone is going to pipe up that we need to replace him too. We never needed Willian in the first place

    Pregnant man is actually the new Emoji for Willian

  79. Almuniasaynomore

    Elmo,
    I was actually working on one on the boat but it morphed into today’s one. Might have a crack at it again another day, sunshine is so rare over here I’d forgotten how much work it brings with it……

    Kroenkephobe,
    I’m well my friend and you? Tell you what’s depressing,the new version of open all hours, have you seen how aged David Jason is? I don’t need to be reminded of Old Man Time’s destructive prowess when I’m looking for light entertainment. I’m trying to channel my natural Irish cynicism and sarcasm towards our ‘progress’ into something lighter,it actually helps relieve the growing sense of doom! Not sure if anyone else benefits but I feel unburdened! Hope you wrap up the process asap and get settled in time for the new season. Your neighbour’s will think a lunatic has moved in as a chair goes through the window after Brentford’s late equalizer……

    Divine,
    The whole despicable me,minions thing has passed me by. I don’t know if this should be a regret or not…….

  80. PhD2020

    EmiratesstrollerJuly 16, 2021 10:27:59
    Let’s revert back to football rather than talk endlessly about Covid.
    —-
    You mean let’s talk about hypothetical situations with our heads in the clouds taking in the chem trails and the scent and whiff of Arteta and Kroenke making us all-go dreamy and wet….?

    No,thanks.

    I’d rather wait till the end of the summer transfer window,till 1-2 months into the playing season and till Christmas beckons before really giving my voice based on fact,rather than on-‘What could be,but might not happen,’ type scenario.

    Sorry to be a Debbie Downer,but we’ve been down this road before many a year with Arsene at the helm.

    It’s still turd, rather than caviar we are consuming for pleasure,just a more potent,stronger smelling type of turd under the current management.

  81. Gonsterous

    Jesus, watching last season’s highlight against wolves. We were fking embarrassing. 90th min, we are trailing and we are playing at the back, scared to play even a 5 yard pass forward. It’s laughable how ineffective we are at attack.

    Wolves played confidently in the middle of the park.
    It’s going to be the same this season if we do not get proper midfielders in the team. We will concede the middle of the park and play around the back to keep possession.

  82. TR7

    ‘You mean let’s talk about hypothetical situations with our heads in the clouds taking in the chem trails and the scent and whiff of Arteta and Kroenke making us all-go dreamy and wet….?No,thanks.’

    Exactly ! What is there to talk about Arsenal ? Same old, same old. Luckily we had Euro and Copa to distract ourselves from agonizing state of affairs at Arsenal.

  83. PhD2020

    * Major Correction in terms of the numbers…PhD2020July 16, 2021 11:09:29
    —————-
    China1July 16, 2021 08:19:20
    The way I’d put it is this
    We went from thousands a day being killed by covid to dozens after our massive UK vaccine rollout – from which AZ was an enormous contributor
    ——-
    This is quite an interesting revealing bit of information given by China1.

    He said by his quotes:”They went from being killed by the thousands per day to dozens after the massive UK vaccine rollout.”The UK vaccine rollout did not commence until December 2020..The UK vaccine rollout to the P.R.C. at a conservative estimate,probably occurred circa Jan 2021.Covid -19 started spreading rapidly by Dec 2019(earlier in some reports).

    So,if according to China1,mortality rates were occurring at an average r.a.t.e. of 1000 per day from December 2019 till December 2020/Jan 2021 until the UK vaccine rollout was received,which suddenly reduced the mortality rate to dozens-we are basically talking about 1000 deaths per day x 7days x4weeks x 12 months which amounts to circa 336,000 deaths at a conservative estimate over that time period.

    This estimate is far and above the mortality rate recorded by the P.R.C. via the w.meters website.Which has their mortality recorded till now at 4,636, placing them 4th in table and not in 102nd place.That number has been under represented by a multiple of 90-at the very least.

    Someone is being economical with the truth.

    And via other reputable sources,the mortality rate is believed to be approaching if not in the 100,000’s, then in the millions.

    Just highlighting the discrepancy in the poster’s numbers and the time line quoted till the UK vaccine rollout in Dec 2020/Jan 2021

  84. PhD2020

    * correction
    Which has their mortality recorded till now at 4,636, placing them 102nd in table and not in 4th place(should be higher-like 1st).That number has been under represented by a multiple of 90-at the very least.

  85. raptora

    I just can’t believe how slow things are moving for us in yet another summer.

    We did nothing of note last summer to just pay the buyout clause of Partey in the end of it, when we could have done that 2 months earlier.

    Now it feels like more of the same ol same ol.

  86. Almuniasaynomore

    Raptora,
    Thanks,bit of fun. If it wasn’t that I’d be changing lyrics or trying to make terrible jokes. You remind me a lot of the younger me. I spent years berating different managers and the last decade of Wenger was torture. All I got out of it was grey hair. I love your passion and I’ve no doubt myself that Arteta will prove you right. Just don’t let it get into your head too much,life is tough enough without carrying Artedu around with you. One way or another their time will come to an end.( I used to find alcohol and attractive women worked well after a bad defeat….)

  87. China1

    PHD I was talking about the UK not China

    The AZ vaccine is not available at all in China. No western vaccines are

  88. Batistuta

    Said at the start it had whiffs of summer 2012 and so far so good.

    If we pay a single dollar for Ramsdale id actually just fully go into Arteta out mode win or lose

  89. China1

    That’s why I said I haven’t taken any vaccine at all so far and I’d like to take Pfizer but would settle for AZ – neither are available here

    Your intentions are good but you’ve misunderstood my message – I probably wasn’t clear enough

  90. PhD2020

    TR7July 16, 2021 11:41:57
    ‘You mean let’s talk about hypothetical situations with our heads in the clouds taking in the chem trails and the scent and whiff of Arteta and Kroenke making us all-go dreamy and wet….?No,thanks

    ’Exactly ! What is there to talk about Arsenal ? Same old, same old. Luckily we had Euro and Copa to distract ourselves from agonizing state of affairs at Arsenal.
    —–
    I know right…

    Must be a huge come down from you celebrating Argentina’s Copa America win?
    More so,crying tears of joy for Messi..

    And now,facing the dawn reality of Arsenal under Arteta,Edu,Vinai and Kroenke.
    Transfers,pre-season,season in full swing come August and the trials and tribulations of going through the white knuckle ride with no European football?

    How does it feel right now?

    Swings and roundabouts?Or a stroll in the park with Covid capturing your very essence?

  91. China1

    For evidence of the efficacy of AZ look no further than the UK’s numbers

    Previously when the UK was pushing this many daily infections what were the deaths compared with now when the vaccine rollout is at a far more advanced stage? AZ has been a massive contributor to the UK vaccine effort (not sure what the % of AZ vs other vaccines is but it’s obviously a very significant number

    To be clear do not look to China for evidence for AZ efficacy or otherwise because it ain’t used here!

  92. PhD2020

    China1July 16, 2021 08:26:16
    It is almost non-existent here and has been since about June last year. Besides having to scan QR code’s to show your health status in certain places and sometimes needing to wear a mask we’ve had virtually no restrictions since last summerThe way it was brought under control was with an extremely heavy hand early on. We had one long lockdown from Jan-April or so last year to get the numbers down to 0 give or take.

    —–
    So,let me get this right…It was contained or no existent from the outbreak of Dec 2019 till June 2020 in the PRC with no vaccine rollouts till Dec 2020?According to your above statement?

    You got it down to zero?Do share the solution?

    It was QR codes,masks and restrictions and the heavy handed sickle hammer that smashed covid from Dec 2019-April/June 2020(when no vaccines were available at that time) according to you?

    Wow,if that’s the case-maybe the rest of the world should adopt that practice.

    Try telling the UK,Australia,Japan who’ve had to cancel attendance of the Olympics(I guess they are incompetent fools),South Korea-really inefficient in controlling the issue..
    Italy,Spain.,USA,Canada,Germany,France,India,Indonesia etc the list goes on..

    What’s the solution to solving this pandemic?You seem to have the answers.

    Seems you did not need the vaccine as you had it controlled down to zero,according to your above post.

  93. Almuniasaynomore

    Bati,
    Never got a chance to congratulate you.Hope the celebrations were memorable. Looks like you were right that Loca has eyes only for Juve. Neves it is then!

  94. PhD2020

    China1July 16, 2021 08:41:58

    There are no green or Amber list countries either. As far as China is concerned the whole world is red list.

    —–
    But yet PRC Nationals are allowed to travel outbound to the red list countries…?

    Especially across neighbouring countries, never mind overseas.

    But as you said,the whole world is red,but PRC is green-makes real sense…

    You still did not respond to my earlier post -see below

    ———
    PhD2020July 16, 2021 08:51:00
    China1July 16, 2021 08:26:16
    It is almost non-existent here and has been since about June last year
    ————————————–
    Sorry dude,absolute bollocks…

    I know for a fact,PRC nationals are travelling en masse to neighbouring countries-albeit on business visas..And blatantly doing open bus sightseeing tours with no regard.

    Whilst the locals,are thinking what the f**ck,when they are in lockdown.

    But still,having no regard for other countries border controls.

    In short,flouting or gaming the system.That said,the massive high volume of importation of urns from a neighbouring country.That has far exceeded the norm in previous years.

    We’ll leave it at that.

  95. TR7

    PhD

    Thankfully I have varied areas of interest which include politics, finance, tennis, music, football, movies etc. So I can deal with the current lull in football without much difficulty. Anyway struggling with my own health these days, so football not quite at the top of my priority list right now. How are you doing ?

  96. S Asoa

    PHD
    The South Eastern countries the vaccination has still to pick up. Thailand is just about finalising local manufacturing agreements. The existing facilities for manufacture were in India, USA, England, France. Most have their quotas pledged due to advances paid.
    Vaccination drastically reduces mortality. Of course there are yet no clear studies on effectiveness of a specific vaccine against Delta variant which is rampaging all over the world.
    England, USA have a high enough % of vaccinated people to obtain herd immunity plus adequate stock in hand for 3rd booster dose. Only thing cannot understand the 1000 mortality in Canada though.

  97. DivineSherlock

    Almunia

    If not nothing I found Despicable Me and Minions shit quite funny , no regrets if youve missed it . I had to watch it when I babysit my nephews. You are not the target audience I must say xD

  98. PhD2020

    TR7July 16, 2021 09:33:40
    ‘Regards the origins of Covid I’m open minded. There isn’t a consensus amongst scientists as you claim and while it may be proven at some time in the future the evidence simply isn’t there right now to back up your claim.

    ’Evidence ? Chances are we will never have proper ‘evidence’ to support the claim that China is the conspirator and originator of Covid-19 simply because we are talking about perhaps the most powerful country in the world along side the USA as a potential mischief maker.

    Sometimes you need to read between the lines, numbers, information and facts and arrive at an informed conclusion.

    ——
    TR7July 16, 2021 09:33:40
    Sometimes you need to read between the lines, numbers, information and facts and arrive at an informed conclusion.

    —-

    I hear you on that one…

    I know a guy like that.Educated from a top tier university working in a central government position,but he has the inability to read between the lines,look at data,facts, information and come to an informed and reasonable decision.

    His take on the majority of things,is that he needs 100% proof and even then,he’ll dismiss the evidence before him.Much like most posters on here.

    Such people, are not worth the time or energy.

    They will not budge from their stance.It’s a psychological in-grained problem,like one we are currently face.

    It’s not even about getting them to agree with you,it’s about giving a different perspective, to consider or be open minded, or entertaining other people’s school of thought.

    They will twist and turn in the wind.Only when faced with the harsh reality of life,maybe and a big maybe they might see another view.

    But their biggest issue or stumbling block is hubris and ignorance.

  99. DivineSherlock

    Emiratestroller

    Also to clarify I feel we need to move past that DM system of slow ponderous passing of Xhaka. A 4-3-3 with Partey and Sabitzer would be more like Liverpool’s Fabinho and Henderson then City’s Fernandinho and Gundogan.

  100. China1

    PHD the answer is right there

    What happens when any country in the world goes into stringent lockdown? The cases fall.

    What happens if you have a prolonged lockdown? The keep falling.

    What happens if you make it so that no one can come into the country without quarantining for 2 weeks and passing multiple tests successfully? It’s much harder for cases to come into the country

    What happens if you quite literally check the temperature of 90% of the population several times a day? And high temperatures are immediately reported? You notice cases much quicker.

    What happens if every time there’s a case you have hundreds of thousands of locals, or in some cases millions put into lockdown with every single man woman and child in the district required to take multiple tests? You catch and isolate cases very quickly

    What happens when you need to wear a mask to go into the vast majority of places? And can be refused entry to everywhere apart from your home without one? It’s a little harder to spread.

    What happens when you have an app since last April that gives you a colour ranking based on whether you’ve been in the proximity of any confirmed cases and immediately gets you barred entry from absolutely every where, as well as being reached out to by the authorities that you must come for a test? It’s harder for cases to slip through the net.

    What happens when you have a population that is largely compliant with top down requests and doesn’t go on protests and marches or expect to have hundreds of people rammed into nightclubs drinking dancing and kissing with strangers? It’s a bit harder to spread

    What happens when almost everyone lives in apartment buildings within gated communities with a security guard? It’s much harder for individuals to break the rules or avoid being reported?

    What happens when virtually all major stores and shopping malls have guards at the entrance checking you as you come in? It’s harder to hide symptoms

    What happens when you have the willingness of authorities to command a few million people to stay at home and take tests at any given time? It’s hard for cases to slip through the net

    What happens when quarantine after arriving consists of being taken directly from the airport to a government selected hotel where you are literally not allowed to leave for 2 weeks and will be reported for doing so?

    I’m well aware that China has problems and some things look dubious etc. but that China has the pandemic under control internally is a fact which is entirely consistent with what you would expect. The reason other countries have struggled is because they have not consistently applied so many and such stringent measures.

    Look at the UK right now doing red amber and green list countries with people racing to go on holiday to wherever will take them. China doesn’t have that. Everywhere is red list and people do not typically leave and expect to come back for that very reason. It’s why I haven’t seen my family in England for 2 years – if I leave it will be a monumental pain in the ass to come back.

    As much as China has its problems, not everything here is an evil conspiracy. Find any other foreigner in China and ask them how it is and they’ll say the same. We’ve been able to travel around internally for the last 14 or so months, if covid was really spreading like crazy wed have surely all caught it by now.

    It’s precisely an issue here that vaccine take up is slower than in the west because people here don’t feel any great pressing need as it’s clearly safe. They even provided incentives here for people to take the vaccine in some cases because people are in less of a hurry. Don’t you think if we all had friends and family coming down with suspicious, terrible fevers and coughs and friends and family getting hospitalized or even dying, we might all be rushing out to get vaccinated ‘just in case’?

    Where are the hospitals getting overwhelmed by covid since we haven’t had a national lockdown for well over a year?

    Again, I understand your suspicions but in reality not everything here is fake

  101. Sid

    ‘Fatality rate among First Nations people living on a reserve is 58% of the case fatality rate in the general Canadian population
    98% of First Nations people living on a reserve who tested positive for COVID-19 have recovered’

  102. Mr Serge

    tr7
    China you yourself admitted that you couldn’t criticise the country you live in as even your online posts are possibly getting tracked. So pardon me for taking anything you say about China with a bucket load of salt. Besides, there’s a general consensus among scientists that Covid-19 is not a natural virus, it’s made in a lab. Everything was a bit hush hush earlier for obvious political reasons, skeletons are tumbling out of the cupboard now.

    totally agree China made the virus and have a way of controlling it its basically a cladestine war on the rest of the world

  103. China1

    I think there were some periods last year when Australia had 0 cases in the country for a number of weeks. How did they do it? They had less restrictions and control than China.

    Or maybe Australia were lying too!

  104. englandsbest

    China 1

    I’d much rather stay with football, but I”ll make a detour here because it seems you think the Chinese were close to prescient when it came to the pandemic. Maybe they were au fait. If so, ask yourself how and why? They are imitators not innovators – at any rate, for the past 1000 years or so.

    I’ll add that someone who seriously believes the Chinese government shows respect for the Uighurs, say, or the Japanese, say, or Hong Kong, say, has questionable judgement – and stop there because anything more might offend.

  105. Kroenkephobe

    I think Sabitzer would be worth a punt at under 20 Mill. Hardworking, good passer, creative eye and a goal scorer.

    But he’s an odd looking character. A 3 way cross between Charlie Chaplin, Arteta himself and the keyboard player from that 70s band sparks (Ron Mael? ) . Have we ever had any Austrians in our team apart from Alex Manninger?

  106. Sid

    “””””””It was QR codes,masks and restrictions and the heavy handed sickle hammer that smashed covid from Dec 2019-April/June 2020(when no vaccines were available at that time) according to you?””””””

    Actually this has been very effective in African countries, where vaccination is very low

  107. PhD2020

    S AsoaJuly 16, 2021 13:21:14
    PHD
    The South Eastern countries the vaccination has still to pick up. Thailand is just about finalising local manufacturing agreements. The existing facilities for manufacture were in India, USA, England, France. Most have their quotas pledged due to advances paid.
    Vaccination drastically reduces mortality. Of course there are yet no clear studies on effectiveness of a specific vaccine against Delta variant which is rampaging all over the world.
    England, USA have a high enough % of vaccinated people to obtain herd immunity plus adequate stock in hand for 3rd booster dose. Only thing cannot understand the 1000 mortality in Canada though.
    ——
    Nice to hear from you S Asoa.

    Hope you and your family are keeping well.

    From my understanding,the vaccine rollout in the South East Asian countries is low.
    But interesting to hear your take on the inside.

    Did not know,it was as complicated as that with finalising local manufacturing agreements and co.

    I guess here in the West,the information we are given,is that vaccines are being slowly rolled out there and there is some reluctance by the people to take up their allocations,fearful of potential side effects-well from my perspective anyway.

    That said,we are also hearing of various countries-‘donating vaccines to the S.East Asian region’,so I’m of the belief that the vaccines are available to all-free of charge-non?
    China and Japan springs to mind-right?

    Again,maybe that’s my naivety kicking in or misinterpretation of facts.

    It’d be great to learn more from your current situation..
    Would love to help in any which way possible.

    Let me know,if I can help in some way and maybe we can link up via Pedro.

    PS
    As for the Canada situation,was not aware how acute the situation is.So,I’m just as surprised as you are.Will need to look into that.

    Either way,stay safe along with you and your family.

    Let me know what’s up.

  108. China1

    Mr serge I’ve addressed this repeatedly

    I won’t criticize China but nothing compels me to defend China if your criticism is valid. I can say nothing at all instead and you can read as much or as little into my silence as you want

    What is my motivation to lie about the situation here? Or do you think they hand out medals to foreigners who say positive things online

    And I’ve said it repeatedly, speak to any foreigners in China and they’ll tell you the same. The Chinese would top ofc

    But therein lies the problem. You’re basing your judgments based on what you believe. You have already decided what you believe and nothing I can say, as a person here who knows exactly what it’s like, will change that because your mind is already made up

    So feel free to disbelieve everything or believe whatever you want, just keep in mind that you’re choosing your beliefs in the face of what anyone here will tell you. If you will not listen to anything people here will say on the topic there’s not much point paying any attention to China at all as you can just make your mind up to believe anything bad you like with or without knowing if it’s actually founded in truth

  109. Sid

    “””””They are imitators not innovators – at any rate, for the past 1000 years or so.””””””

    Pot calling the kettle black, loooool

  110. Kroenkephobe

    Joke Friday, not least to assuage the ennui.

    The police arrested two kids in a shopping precinct yesterday. One was drinking battery acid and the other was eating fireworks. After taking them in to the local cop shop, they charged one and let the other one off…

    In other news Battersea Dogs’ Home has declared itself bankrupt. A spokesman said, ‘we did everything we could to save the organisation but ultimately there was no alternative and we had to call in the retrievers…’.

  111. PhD2020

    TR7July 16, 2021 13:18:21
    PhD
    Thankfully I have varied areas of interest which include politics, finance, tennis, music, football, movies etc. So I can deal with the current lull in football without much difficulty. Anyway struggling with my own health these days, so football not quite at the top of my priority list right now. How are you doing ?

    —–
    Dude,really sorry to hear about your health.

    I hope it’s nothing serious.

    I’ll have you in my prayers.
    Wish you a steadfast recovery.

    No need to worry about me.I’m cool.

    But enjoy your posts immensely-a solid poster..Hope the Covid has not impacted you in India?

    Stay safe,continue the good fight and let’s joust on here,on all things-ranging from tennis,politics,football,finace,religion to whatever brings you back to good health my man.

    🙂

  112. China1

    Yeah Sherlock I thought I read too

    If you want zero cases you have huge restrictions on traveling and have a long enough lockdown to exhaust the chain of transmission

    Maintaining it forever is the challenge which is why China too (even now) has some cases where Chinese from oversees have brought it back into the country but they’re immediately captured in the enforced quarantine net so as to avoid community transmission

  113. Marc

    Hmmm what’s worse Kroenke’s jokes or a conversation about China deliberately releasing COVID.

    It’s close but the winner (or should that be loser) is…………….