DATA DIVE INTO THE ARSENAL MIDFIELD PUZZLE (LONG READ)

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Today’s guest post is brought to you by Adam Rae Voge (@AdamVoge). He’s a data wizard based in Minnesota, he likes to take complex datasets and make them easy to understand. This is a fun post, hopefully, you’ll nerd out on it like I did!

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If Arsenal is going to return to the Champions League any time soon, it’s going to start with the midfield. No matter which way you look at it, it was a liability this past season. But how can the club fix its problems in the middle of the pitch? Is anyone we’re being linked to capable of fixing what ails the starting 11? And is anyone out there a solid option if current targets don’t work out?

That’s a complex issue, but thanks to data, we can get an idea of where to start.

Here’s a breakdown of a host of midfielders, including Arsenal’s currently-owned assets, using 25 key data points from Football Reference.

Arsenal’s current midfield: Defined by weakness

Any analysis of the road forward has to start with a glimpse at the present.

Thankfully, data seems to indicate that Thomas Partey, if he can remain healthy, can be a major asset moving forward. This past season, Thomas ranked among the best midfielders in the top five domestic leagues at ball progression (89th percentile), passes into the final third (91st), progressive carries (89th) and successful dribbles (89th). For all his strengths as a progressive midfielder, Thomas also ranked well in several defensive metrics. He was 87th percentile in tackles won per 90 minutes, 97th percentile in dribbler tackle rate, 89th percentile in tackles + interceptions per 90 and 91st percentile in ball recoveries.

He didn’t press the ball successfully as often as some (55th percentile), but when he did, he succeeded at a high rate (80th percentile). These data point to an aggressive midfielder who can win the ball back and quickly start the action going the other direction, which is perfect for what Arsenal needs.

Granit Xhaka, the most frequent partner for Thomas, proved to be statistically middling. Across the 25 metrics I measured, his average percentile rank was 54th, which is about the definition of bang-average. Xhaka consistently ranked highly in passing metrics, with pass completion, passes into the final third, progressive passes and switches all 85th percentile or better. But his shot- and goal-creating actions (SCA and GCA) ranked in the 28th and 42nd percentiles, respectively, indicating Xhaka did most of his best passing before the attacking third.

But where he really struggled was defense, typically a strength of someone of his athletic profile. While his success rate tackling dribblers was better than 94 percent of his counterparts, Xhaka rarely actually executed tackles, ranking in the 31st percentile in sheer quantity. He struggled to pressure the ball (sixth percentile) and was woeful in tackles + interceptions (20th). These aren’t the traits of a dynamic midfielder who can play in a press-heavy system.

Some Arsenal supporters may be surprised to know that the data were friendly to Dani Ceballos. This is due to his key passes (90th percentile), through balls (97th), progressive carries (97th) and shot-creating actions (88th). Anyone watching the games wouldn’t be surprised to know Dani struggled in the more noticeable areas such as being dispossessed of the ball (20th percentile), ability to pressure the ball (24th percentile) and errors committed (ninth percentile). Clearly Ceballos has positive traits but he needs a different type of midfield partner than Thomas or Xhaka.

Elneny’s rankings also come as no surprise. Elite in terms of pass completion (99th percentile), but in the bottom 10 percent in key passes, and non-penalty expected goals and assists (npxG+xA). Basically, he’s passing backward and sideways. He was in the bottom 20 percent in number of tackles completed, successful ball pressure and tackles + interceptions. Unfortunately, there’s not a worldie category.

One of the more interesting options for Arsenal is Joe Willock. Thanks in part to his hellish run of scoring late last season, he finished 96th percentile in npxG+xA. But with a couple of exceptions, he was dismal in most other categories. Willock has shown a tendency to lose the ball (second percentile in miscontrols and fourth in dispossessions). He gets dribbled past more than almost any midfielder (first percentile). He does poorly pressuring the ball (first percentile). Unless he can develop in these areas, and maybe he can, Arsenal would be foolish not to cash in on the narrative his goal streak created.

What of the other Arsenal midfield loanees? Matteo Guendozi averaged a 46th percentile rank, putting him ahead of Willock and Elneny, but certainly not worth the personality that comes attached. He wasn’t dribbled past often this season and successfully pressured the ball at a high rate, but nothing else ranked in the upper 25 percent.

Lucas Torreira was statistically the worst midfielder on Arsenal’s books this past season. He won the ball back (98th percentile) and held onto it (99th percentile) this year, but only cracked the middle of the field in a couple of other categories.

When you put them all together, Arsenal’s midfield lacked a true attacking threat. Only Ceballos and Willock were above average in their contributions to offense, and starting Ceballos was sometimes inviting goals for the opposition. Nobody consistently created shots.

Somehow, the same unit also lacked true defensive teeth. Only Partey was above average at pressuring the ball and winning it back. Xhaka wasn’t dribbled past often, but he committed more errors than the supporters are willing to tolerate.

Current rumours: Who could help?

The good news for Arsenal is that there are a lot of serviceable midfield replacements on the market today, and several of them are forcing their way out of their current club. With the exception of Albert Sambi Lokonga, due to a lack of data available, here’s what my analysis says about the options out there:

It’s unlikely that one player will come in and solve every problem Arsenal have in the midfield. But among those credibly linked to the club, the best positioned to do so would be Manuel Locatelli from Sassuolo. Locatelli fits the Xhaka profile and would likely play a more defensive role, allowing Partey to focus more on the attack. But Locatelli would also bring plenty to the attack himself.

By the numbers: Locatelli was 98th percentile in both passes into the final third and progressive passing. He was 80th or better in switches, shot-creating actions, key passes and pass completion percentage. So he’s going to contribute to some goals no matter where he ends up. And of course, he does well defensively. Among the statistics I measured, he was only below average in the number of times he pressured the ball (23rd percentile) and errors committed (15th percentile). He was above average in number of tackles, interceptions and successful ball pressure rate, so perhaps getting the chance to put more pressure on the ball would benefit him.

After Locatelli, there’s a bit of a divide defined by play style. But the most all-around skilled player is Ruben Neves. Despite the venom coming his way from about half Arsenal’s fan base, Neves is an improvement over Granit Xhaka in the vast majority of metrics. He contributes far more to goals (62nd percentile in npxG+xA, 65th in SCA, 71st in key passes), and he’s also a statistically strong tackler (75th in tackles won, 69th in percentage of dribblers tackled). Neves’ real weaknesses are pass completion percentage, successful dribbles, and progressive carries, all of which could be explained at least in part by his willingness to play a long pass over the top. He’s an interesting option to say the least.

After Neves, all-around quality dips, but stylistic strengths remain. Offensively speaking, Rodrigo De Paul and Houssem Aouar are both leaps up from Xhaka’s output. De Paul is 97th percentile in npxG+xA, 98th percentile in key passes, 93rd in progressive passing and 98th percentile in both shot- and goal-creating actions. He can dribble (99th percentile) and carry into the final third (99th percentile). He loses the ball far too often (bottom 10 percent), and can’t tackle, pressure the ball or win it back, but offensively his contribution is outstanding.

It’s a similar story with Aouar. He’s in the top 10 percent in npxG+xA, key passes, through balls, dribbles, progressive carries, SCA and GCA (in a supposed down year, mind you). He does lose the ball more often than most any midfielder in the big five leagues, however, and he contributes very little to the defense. He’s a true 8 type of midfielder, or maybe even an attacking midfielder, so don’t look to him to contribute outside of the attacking third often.

Among the more defensive options, Yves Bissouma stands out. He tackles well (92nd percentile), he wins aerial duels (95th percentile), and he can pressure the ball (85th percentile in successful pressure rate). His dribbling prowess (86th percentile in dribbles completed) means he can recover the ball and push up the pitch a bit before passing. He’s not going to contribute a lot to the attack, but as a partner for Thomas, he’s enticing to say the least.

After Bissouma, both Guido Rodriguez and Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa offer upside over Xhaka. Rodriguez is a prolific tackler (90th percentile) and wins aerials (84th percentile). His real weakness as a defender is committing errors (12th percentile). And once he does get on the ball, he doesn’t provide much. He ranked just fifth percentile in key passes, 28th in progressive passes, 12th in SCA and 2nd in GCA.

Zambo Anguissa is a little more interesting as an all-around midfielder. He ranked in the top 15 percent in only two metrics (dribbles completed and tackles + interceptions per 90). If he could clear up his ball security issues (bottom five percent in dispossessions, bottom three in miscontrols), he wouldn’t have many glaring weaknesses from a statistical standpoint. He could be a good third midfielder at the top level.

Midfield options: Who else is there?

OK, now let’s ditch reality for a bit. Who else could make sense to shore up the midfield? There’s plenty out there to pick from. Let’s start with three of my favorites from a defensive mindset.

Aurelien Tchouameni, 21, Monaco: If you’re looking for a midfield partner who could allow Partey to focus on the attack, I lean Tchouameni. He’s only 21, but he just helped a fallen club find their way back to the Champions League. Sound familiar?

Tchouameni wins more tackles than almost any midfielder (99th percentile). He succeeds at pressuring the ball at an elite rate (98th percentile). He wins his aerials better than 98 percent of his midfield contemporaries, and he recovers the ball well (85th percentile). Doesn’t that sound like a midfielder who can cover the defense and allow Partey to commit to the attack?

Cheick Doucoure, 21, Lens: If you can’t get Tchouameni, go for Doucoure. Despite playing at the top tier for the first time this past season, Doucoure ranked in the 96th percentile at pressuring the ball and in the 92nd percentile at tackles + interceptions. Defensively speaking, his only weakness was being dribbled past, but he’s even above average at that (53rd percentile). While he’s only played one season in Ligue 1 (Lens were Ligue 2 for his first two seasons), Doucoure does also provide a bit more offense than Tchouameni, with an npxG+xA in the 72nd percentile and final third passing in the 76th percentile. He profiles as someone a savvy club like Leicester will sign for a pittance and sell at a huge profit.

Maximillian Arnold, 27, Wolfsburg: Maximillian Arnold is on the older side, so some fans may not love the idea of signing him. But he recovers the ball at an elite rate (97th percentile), tackles dribblers (88th percentile) and presses well (87th percentile in successful pressure rate). He also has plenty of offensive talent, ranking in the 88th percentile this past season in npxG+xA, 92nd in key passes, 90th in SCA and 87th in GCA. He helped lead Wolfsburg to the Champions League to a fourth-place finish this past season.

With one of those in tow, here are three offensive midfielders who could help the Arsenal attack:

Fabian Ruiz, 25, Napoli: This isn’t exactly a random suggestion, but Ruiz would be a valuable attacking addition for Arsenal. He’s not a prolific dribbler, but he ranked in the 80th percentile or better in 11 of the 14 offensive or ball-security statistics I tracked for this piece. His weakness truly is his defense, but like Aouar, you wonder if he could succeed as an offensive-minded 8 with Partey or another signing focused more on defense.

Lorenzo Pellegrini, 24, Roma: Pellegrini is another obvious target who would come at more of a cost. His pass completion percentage ranked low (48th percentile), but he was great this past season at carrying the ball into the attacking third (90th percentile). He was rarely dispossessed (88th percentile), with a knack for playing through balls (92nd percentile). Like Ruiz, he wouldn’t offer a lot of value defensively, but his statistics do compare somewhat favorably to Granit Xhaka, so a net improvement would be a certainty.

Bruno Guimaraes, 23, Lyon: Here’s a great example of where G/A can be misleading. Despite contributing to only four goals in 37 Lyon appearances this season, Guimaraes ranked among the elite midfielders (94th percentile) at creating goals. Ball progression is a particular strength of his, with his progressive carries ranking in the 96th percentile and progressive passes in the 85th percentile. He also ranked fifth defensively in my analysis (including Partey), suggesting a true box-to-box midfielder. And he’s Brazilian, so Edu must be aware of him, right?

The final verdict

So who should Arsenal sign, according to the data? Here’s what I would do:

Bruno Guimaraes, hypothetically for up to 40 million Euros, as my box-to-box midfielder. Maximillian Arnold from Wolfsburg for 25 million Euros. And Cheick Doucoure as the DM of the future, for anywhere up to 10 million. For 75 million, that would be a dream summer haul and would allow some focus on the other glaring issues this club has.

Failing that? A Locatelli/Neves summer would be helpful at the least, even if it would cost the same. Unless it’s not, in which case, don’t blame me: Blame the data.

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Elmo

Re Arsenal having £2.5bn if the club bought bitcoin instead of Mustafi. If the club bought dogecoin instead of Partey last August we’d have £4.5bn this summer to spend.

Marc

I do find it a little odd that someone has clearly put a lot of time and effort into the above when it’s what any fan with half a brain has been saying for years.

Prior to last season a lot of our weak defensive performances were because they had no midfield protecting them. It’s one of the reasons I’m concerned with the idea of signed another CB when it’s midfield both defensively and offensively that should be our prime concern.

Dunchirado

tr4phy or 2nd today

raptora

Tr4phy

raptora

I’m on a roll

S Asoa

F-+- missed Tro4phy

Marc

I really need to get my priorities right – I’m reading the post and commenting when I should be chasing the Tr4phy.

Globalgunner

Arsenal reject Roma bid for Xhaka. The dunderheads running this club actually think Xhaka is an asset not a liability. They may decide to keep him couldn’t they?

Champagne Charlie

Nice piece Adam, appreciate the data dump. Supports everything that’s been said in CM if you ask me, the outgoing guys (Ceballos, Torreira, Guendouzi) not worth the hassle per each of their respective situations. I’m very averse to players that are dispossessed readily or miscontrol, so Anguissa has went down in my estimation seeing the figures, and De Paul’s numbers are worse defensively than I’d imagined. Xhaka leaving robs us of a player with excellent ability to progress the ball through the middle, but offers an opportunity to improve the lack of dynamism that costs us in pressures/tackles. Of those… Read more »

Dat guy Pepe

Awesome post
Tchouameni for me. The boy is really good and has the stamina the epl requires. Think of Ndidi. For the 8 or 10 role I’d go for R. Neves coz he already knows the epl
Can we get one for LBs and RBs?

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Very arsenal trying to bodge up the xhara deal…
Just sell.

Globalgunner

Champagne Charlie must be on the negotiating team for Arsenal on the Xhaka deal.

raptora

Tchouameni is the clear winner looking at the data. His contract ends in 2024 so he’ll very expensive. I think over £40m around £50m. Unless Monaco need the money.

raptora

8 MotM awards in 36 games as a defensive midfielder in Ligue 1 tells you the kind of season Tchouameni has had.

Nelson

Danilo and Carvalho have no attack play.

Globalgunner

Hungary looking the more likely here

Spanishdave

It’s as bad as Whitty graphs with COVID, you can prove almost anything.
Just get two decent midfielders in ffs.
It’s really not rocket science

Nelson

That stadium looks full to me.

Spanishdave

Yep full house with less vaccinated people than us.
Doris the dickhead

SurferX

Brilliant post. We need to hear more from Adam.

Nelson

Clearly offside.

Dissenter

Pedro
Your last blog with Mr. Macdonald was top quality.
Hope I got his name right.

S Asoa

Portugal added some physicality and a little Hungary style.
Goal

Nelson

Once they move Bruno back to midfield, the attack looks much better.

raptora

This is yellow yet Luiz Vs Wolves was straight red. Idiots.

Dissenter

How can that be a penalty?

VAR ought to reverse calls like this.
It’s a contact sports , isn’t it?

S Asoa

Penalty for Portugal.
Renato Sanchez physically drives through.
Ronaldo got a new record

Sid

What does the x -axis represent? Very poor method of data analysis here.
I could get a load of other data descriptions to make the graph of my choice taller than the rest

Marc

Assuming we manage to get rid of Xhaka you just know certain posters will be popping up mentioning his great stats over in Italy ignoring the fact it’s such a different pace of football.

S Asoa

João Moutinho comes in. Portugal tweaking what been worked

Batistuta

Portugal getting the job done in front of quite a hostile crowd. Not aesthetically pleasing like Holland but very functional and good for the points

Batistuta

Penalty all day Dissenter. Doesn’t have to be till limbs are ripped off that you give it. Was a clumsy tackle by the defender

Leftside

Scoreline may look harsh but Portugal have missed a few chances. It’s about right for me.

Danny S

These kinds of data presentations always confuse me. What does it show exactly?

It has negative statistics mixed with positive in a vertical graph. What does the higher or lower graph show?

Unless you look at each individual colour and it’s associated stat in which you might as well have just written it.

Sid

For starters parteys key passes are mediocre

salparadisenyc

Solid goal if VAR allows.

Dissenter

Cheik Doucore is Malian
That put’s him in the don’t-buy basket
Mali for some reason just have so many gifted young midfielders

Batistuta

An absolute force of nature Cristiano Ronaldo

CG

Data, Data ,Data and more Data.

Fergie didnt do data.
Wenger didnt do data.
Klopp , Jose and Ancelotti too.

(They win and they get the plum jobs too)

More instinct, more actual real time scouting and less data methinks.

S Asoa

Ronaldo walks into a 3rd goal.
Just a thought., if Arteta will not kill it Renato Sanchez could exchange quickfire passes with Daka,ESR, Pepe. Deadly

Dissenter

Sid is struggling with the graphs
Someone needs to charge him a fee to give him a crash course in statistics.

Batistuta

Portugal will be hard to beat too, have a solid back line too and just have Danilo and Carvalho sit in midfield and let the attacking players do their thing.

Just need to have Felix or Rafa start over Jota

AFC Forever

Batistuta, yep Ronaldo is a freak. I heard somebody say the other day that he still stays later and trains harder than anyone else. Doesnt’t do a Giggs or Scholes always plays for his Country that was his 175th game for his Country, that is crazy. 106 goals in those games too.

WengerEagle

Nice read today.

Funny that nearly every player on the list is one I have touted on here at some point as a target, good stuff.

Favoutie duo for me are one of De Paul/Aouar and one of Anguissa/Bissouma.

Batistuta

Oh yes there’s a post, not a big fan of data or anything like that but that’s maybe I’m old school but nothing beats actual physical scouting of a player, very very important too. Do the leg work really.

I’m sure the likes of Mustafi had “good numbers” that pointed to them being good signings but an actual eye test would have shown he was straight up garbage really

Sid

Mr Maryland anaesthiologist, statistics was my strongest unit calculus the worst.

Im telling you for free!

AFC Forever

CG

Without weighting, statistics are just numbers.

Champagne Charlie

Portugal full deserved that win, but I think that first XI was a poor choice.

Instantly better when the pivot of pony was interrupted, cannot start Danilo/William again. Renato Sanches and Neves better than both, if not as physical.

Jota a live wire, but he let them down a few time with his decision making and end product – costly until a flurry after 85mins. Nowhere near as secure with the ball as Bernardo, would have Felix involved instead of him and kee him for super sub.

Hats off to Ronaldo, guy is supreme.

Batistuta

AFC

Wouldn’t even be surprised that he still trains the way he does, you can tell its a sport he enjoys to the maximum and wants to play any chance he gets, incredible really. Not so many upcoming whom you’d look at and think they’d play so deep into their 30s

Batistuta

Charlie

Think that axis of bland of Carvalho and Danilo is basically just to sit and recycle and have the front 4 if you like do their thing really. Can’t remember who it was on here that suggested Arsenal do same

Dissenter

Sid,
Maryland anesthesiologist?

What are you talking about?
I wouldn’t have this much time on my hands if I was a bag man.

AFC Forever

Batistuta, yes totally agree. What a great role model and example for all young players. He deserves all the praise he gets. His numbers are just ridiculous.

Dissenter

Bati/Charlie

Portugal are just trying to recreate what helped them find success in 2016
Playing two defensive mids helps to make them very hard to beat.
They have lots of game changes up front that can change a game in the blink of an eye.

I reckon we can replicate it with Bissouma.Partey duo ; either of them can play central defense or defensive mid.

Sid

Ok then Oga, hospital janitor, was trying to flatter you

Elmo

“Wenger didnt do data.” And when the club really leant into StatDNA and recruited primarily based on data, we had the summer of 2016 and Xhaka, Mustafi and Perez for £100m. Of course past poor institutional ability to analyse data and filter what is important and what isn’t, doesn’t mean that data should be disregarded now. But do we really have confidence that there’s anyone at Arsenal any better than the average Groveller at making good decisions? That’s why, while tongue in cheek, betting the transfer kitty on some obscure cryptocoin that may inflate by 100x in a year could… Read more »

Batistuta

Dissenter

Yea pretty much really with Portugal, it won’t be so fancy or pleasing but goodness if the front four click, it can work wonders.

Pepe still going at what 50 years now lol and Dias is just brilliant, they’ve still got league winning Fonte in reserve too. Can’t not see them as favorites too

WengerEagle

Re De Paul losing the ball a lot, he dribbles a lot so it is to be expected.

He is the lynchpin for a shit lower midtable Serie A side, of course he is asked to do far beyond what he would be required here.

His dribbling numbers would come down here as would his turnover numbers.

Same with Aouar. In fact, any player with high dribbling numbers also turns the ball over more often, even someone like Grealish does.

Almuniasaynomore

Kroenkephobe How’s it going man? At least you got off to a good start with Portugal, the big money could be coming your way! What do you think so far,I’m enjoying the games though my two adopted teams Wales and Scotland are struggling too,least Italy might give me a run for my money. Looking forward to tonight’s match, France have quality everywhere but their mentality is always questionable, the Germans are different, great psychologically but I wouldn’t like to be relying on Werner, I’ve only watched him at Chelsea so I’m still struggling to understand the fee. How is the… Read more »

CG

AfC

“””CG Without weighting, statistics are just numbers.””””

The only Data required, does the player.

a) scores goals
b) create goals
c) stop goals.

if the player is profficient in 2 of them, you then go and scout the player at live games.

Data tied A.Wenger in knots at the end (StanDNA)

He wanted Mpbbabe, the machines said Lacacette and Perez etc

Champagne Charlie

Bati

I get the premise, I’m just not a fan of CM players that tackle and pass two yards – why I lean more to a Neves than Bissouma for our own needs, though they’re not nearly as polarising.

Danilo/William are big Coquelin type players, I think Neves, Sanches, Moutinho are all much better centrally, and the purist in me would prefer a setup involving them and Felix over some of the functional types.

WengerEagle

Carvalho is underrated imo, much better than Danilo.

He may not be the second coming of Vieira but boy is he reliable for Portugal.

WengerEagle

Ronaldo just keeps cracking on, unbelievable at 36.

Literally unheard of to still be that good. He is still a top 5 player imo.

Dissenter

CG
I take it you’re a gut-feelings guy since you’re so averse to numbers

The data is just a numerical aggregation of everything you’re seeing. Your brain only processes so much in real time, someone just watches it more closely, over and over again, and presents a summary that anyone can understand.

The best scouts use the data too.

Sid

I will repeat Anguissa is this seasons Doucoure

Dissenter

Portugal can get away with that Danilo-Carvalho combo because of the sheey amount of firepower they have offensively.
The 5-players subs plays into their hands.
They can just replace an elite attacking player with another over whilst remains defensively solid. It kept a solid French team quiet in the 2016 finals even without Ronaldo so expect more of the same..

Elmo

As AFCForever says, surely for aggregated stats to be useful, you have to weight them based on your preferences, and as soon as you do that, the projection of which players are good or not changes significantly.

It’s all subjective, but if we’re prioritising Power’N’Pace / mobility / ‘dynamism’, as agreed on the last pod with Pedro and Cochrane, rather than City-lite ‘control’, how do the aggregated stats for each player look once you weight more heavily for those characteristics?

WengerEagle

Not in any particular order, top 5 for me are:

Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Mbappe, De Bruyne.

Football is a team game though and the best team usually will prevail as we have seen in recent years with the likes of Bayern, Liverpool, City.

DivineSherlock

Interesting analysis just dont show it Emiratesstroller he might not accept the stats about average Xhaka.

MidwestGun

Whheeeewww got all my work done so .. I can watch the big match uninterrupted .. was touch and go for a minute.

Wading through the post but will have to go back later.. and finish it up.. was amused.. the data shows Xhaka is shit at defense… who knew? hahaha

DivineSherlock

Typical Ronaldo game, does absolutely fuck all in the match, then scores a pen .

MidwestGun

Think France will edge this one… not crazy about a 3-4-3 for Germany. or anyone for that matter.

salparadisenyc

No surprise De Paul showing high in the stats game, dudes quality precisely why we were discussing him last year at this time. Oddly only real link to a Premier league club last summer with Bielsa’s Leeds. Say quite a bit really.

WengerEagle

Charlie Saw you earlier diacouraged about RDP and Aouar’s turnover numbers. Jackie Grealish also turns the ball over a lot, as does Zaha. It’s a trade-off you make for a risk taker and a player that looks to make things happen themselves by taking on players when the pass isn’t on rather than take the safe option like a Neves or Moutinho type that will crab pass or backpass in a similar situation. I appreciate a reliable ball retainer as much as the next man but you need to marry it with an element of risk taking otherwise you’re limited… Read more »

TheLegendaryDB10

Really chuffed to see PV4 punditing in the studio for the France v Germany game. (With Keane no less!!!) Well we have been served with some very interesting football this week. Here is my take on some games: England v Croatia: I am really liking the motivation and the grit in the team. The constant pressing. After going 1 up, I didn’t feel like we would concede. Really happy to see us hold on and win our first group game. Nederland v Ukraine: what. a. game. I was hoping to see the Dutch win with ease, but I was really… Read more »

WengerEagle

Where is Karim at? His boys are on.

Think France will edge it but the Germans are never to be underestimated. Having Muller back is huge for them.

salparadisenyc

Have to say with all that France has I could see the Germans pull off the upset this evening in Munich.
Insane game to open tournament with, knowing Portugal have put 3 past Hungary only adds to the drama.

Don’t call it the group of death for nothing.

Champagne Charlie

Elmo Totally agree with that, and precisely why some players feature lower on my personal preferences. I don’t think Arsenal need a 95th percentile tackler/interceptor who is a paltry progressive passer, because what that inevitably looks like is player X winning the ball and looking for Partey at every opportunity because they can’t pass through traffic. Not the hallmark of a highly technical possession-based team (of which we aspire to be imo). Much sooner we get a player in who is an excellent passer, and very good defensive player across multiple dimensions. The reason Xhaka is so contentious is because… Read more »

WengerEagle

Sal

I mean they haven’t been hyped and the 6-0 pounding to Spain is still fresh in the mind but when you look at their quality- Muller, Gnabry, Kimmich, Kroos, Gundogan and Neuer in goal they are more than capable of the upset.

Really interested to see Gosens out wide left, love watching our boy Gnabry too.

MidwestGun

Yes.. crazy hard group but can’t 3 teams get through in Euro groups ? or am I misremembering that.

raptora

I don’t think Deschamps is a that good of a coach. I don’t rate him.

WengerEagle

Big Benz to score.

Benz and Mbappe up top is just fucking mwah!

Champagne Charlie

Weagle No, not discouraged by those two as far as turnovers are concerned. Was more a comment about Anguissa when considering someone slap bang in the heart of midfield. Poor touches and turnovers need to be a rarity from a CM pair for me, it served as the most irritating part of Ceballos ultimately as that man loved a shit touch and quick dispossession. Players like De Paul and Aouar are further forward in the pitch, but poor defensive actions doesn’t make a strong case in a collective. Very Ozil-like, there has to be a base level above what they’re… Read more »

Dissenter

Has Mbappe calmed down yet

salparadisenyc

Finger sniffer on pitch, game on boys.

Dissenter

raptora
“I don’t think Deschamps is a that good of a coach. I don’t rate him.”

You don’t rate a manager who’s won the WC?

MidwestGun

haha Loew;s haircut is what kills me…. full on bowl cut.

WengerEagle

Charlie

De Paul’s defensive numbers are identical to Grealish’s for context.

Aouar isn’t a double pivot CM, he is a hybrid 8/10 and would be the most advanced of the 3 hence my call for a partner for Partey as well.

Spanishdave

We are the only woke national team in europe

Dissenter

oh là là

This French starting line up is very offensive.

They can get away with it with Kante in the middle, that’s like having an extra man

TheLegendaryDB10

Didnt realise that Gnabry got a call up and is playing for Germany tonight.

Good for the lad.

I shall say no more…

Batistuta

Should be a cracking game

Dissenter

Deschamps proved that he wants to win more than he want’s to be right. He put aside his ego.

Including Benzema and Rabiot in this squad, despite all the squabbles of the past says a lot of the man that Deschamps is.

raptora

Dissenter,
He has the most talented national team on the planet.

WengerEagle

Gnabry has been the man for Germany in the past couple of years.

They haven’t produced a top class 9 since Klose.

Frost

Away from the game, AFCbell saying we interested in James Maddison.

Hmmmmm

Almuniasaynomore

Wenger eagle
Think I’d have Haaland in ahead of Mbappe. Pretty sure the latter will go on to be the greater player but I’m not sure he plays consistently better than haaland at the moment. Also would try to squeeze kante in there but like you I’m a huge KDB fan. Messi,Ronaldo are untouchable. Don’t like Neymar but he has it all( except the right attitude!).

TheLegendaryDB10

And I can’t believe that Benzema is still making the French team. One of these players who is silently still there (or have I missed something as I don’t watch La Liga?).

Sly

I like the idea of maximillian or guimares
Offensive and ball carrying potential with some defensive capabilities. We shouldn’t be looking for another DM or looking to make partey the next cesc. He was bought as a DM with some box to box potential to compliment xhaka not the next cesc.
Our creativity suffers even more next season if we replace xhaka with a pure DM

Sly

Nice post Adam

WengerEagle

He is coming off of his latest 30 goal season TLDB10.

He has scored 88 goals in 3 seasons for Real Madrid since they sold Ronaldo.

Not a better CF on the planet for me besides Lewandowski and even at that I prefer Benzema’s game.

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