THE ‘GOOD OR BAD’ ROUND-UP

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We’re going to play a game today.

GOOD OR BAD?

ARSENAL USE HEADHUNTERS FOR SCOUTS

Story in the Guardian said that Arsenal have activated a crack team of sporting headhunters to find themselves some on-the-ground scouts for Germany, UK, France and Spain. So, like… hiring scouts for scouts?

This might seem odd to you. Last year, Edu was championing the future of a centralized scouting system. Now he’s hiring new people. I found that weird, but I suppose you need to see people in the flesh and have connected people to find out important things like:

Is the player a total whopper?

Are they fast in the flesh?

How loud can they shout?

We sacked the last batch of scouts because they failed. Never forget that. There might be some sort of HR law that states you can’t rehire in the same position for a set amount of time, hence the wait. Who knows.

Two things that intrigue me here:

  1. We used headhunters. That’s a professional way to find talent. No more ‘how about my mate Bruno Mazziotti’ or ‘Kia knows a guy’ recruitment. This is a move in the right direction.
  2. WHY NOW. We’re about the enter the most pivotal summer of all time and we’re only now engaging the people that find players. Feels like we missed the boat there.

SCORE: GOOD

LA RAMS LOVE WHAT YOUNG COACH BRINGS TO THE PARTY

Sometimes, to truly know what Stan vibes about, you need to look to America where is Rams team are landing lovely write-ups in the WSJ about having all their talent traded or hired.

“We’ve had a lot of turnover for all the right reasons,” coach Sean McVay says. “Those are positive problems if you’re having guys leave for better opportunities.”

The Rams were a moribund franchise for years until they made the bold decision to tap Sean McVay and make him the youngest coach in modern NFL history. Four years later, he’s still the youngest coach in the league. The difference now is that his résumé includes a Super Bowl appearance and a 43-21 record.

One of the NFL’s worst teams quickly became one of the NFL’s best teams under McVay and general manager Les Snead. The idea of hiring a young and unproven coach—particularly one with a connection to McVay—became the hottest thing in football since the wildcat.

“In an era where people are looking for turnarounds, we are a turnaround,” team president Kevin Demoff says.

Rams hire a young guy. Arsenal hire a young guy.

KSE back the Rams. MAYBE they back Arsenal.

Now, before the Deputy Douche Bags of the NFL rush to tell me I’m wrong, hear me out… Arteta is supposed to be the ideas guy, he’s supposed to be part of a transformational moment, The Rams project is pretty decent.

Seems pretty clear KSE like something about this approach.

We are long way from the top, but if we have a good summer of ‘trades’, we won’t be far off next season.

SCORE: GOOD

MIKEL ARTETA GETS CRYPTIC ABOUT CHANGE

Do I create the necessary environment for a top elite team to perform at the highest level & get everybody in condition to give their best. And do I get the best of the players that I have? The maximum, whatever the level is. This is how I judge myself.’

Well Mikel, clearly not, we just shit our pants against Villareal over the two legs and we’re midtable. Something is wrong, you have to own that, and you have to fix it. Ruthless isn’t changing a squad that mostly isn’t yours… it’s making the necessary changes to the staff you hired and fucked up a year ago. The environment isn’t perfect, the keeper department has been a disaster, things need to change.

“Now it is how we evolve, there are a lot of things that had to be done and they have been done, a lot of changes to make and a lot of them have been made. Now it is time to evolve. To evolve you to have to take things so that when they are a little more settled and established, take them to the next level.”

Big changes are coming this summer. WAR CHEST STORIES ARE THERE. We have talent that we can actually sell. Arteta needs to move hard at the squad. Shift on players that are old or useless. Sign in a blend of ready-made and youth. This is his last window where he can get away with pointing at the last 10 years. The moves have to be elite.

Question is, does a man that won’t admit Xhaka at left back was a mistake have it in him to admit his backroom team might also need a bit of the non-negotibales treatment? Does a man addicted to pumping players that let him down have the guts to tell David Luiz and Kia the party is over?

We’ll see.

SCORE: BAD

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Dela Mere

Digitalbob

I doubt Everton are celebrating doing the double over Arsenal since 1986 especially as Brighton did the same for the first time in Premier league history.

Leedsgunner

Didn’t we let Eze go? I think he was one of our youngsters in the Academy….

andy1886

“Can tell you’re another that’s never kicked a ball in their life.”

Nice try, but I have the fat calves that suggest otherwise…

Dela Mere

Of the 13 losses Arsenal have suffered this season 10 losses have come against 5 teams who have done the double over us (Man City, Liverpool, Everton, Wolves, Aston Villa)

Leedsgunner

I wouldn’t be surprised if Kronkes FINALLY invest in the club after years of involvement. Remember they sare doing so because their hands have been forced. Never mind the fact that that they’ve had a substantial interest in the club for years, but just because they throw a few crumbs our way this summer, some people will declare that brighter days are ahead. People have very short memories… Even if they spend £200m in new signings this summer remember this is nothing to them. They are doing so to keep the public quiet and to buy a few sympathetic headlines.… Read more »

DigitalBob

Dela Mere – Yes I get your point in a historically bad year doing the double over Chelsea is not significant but lets have this little bit of joy eh

Leedsgunner

*they are

Ishola70

Dela Mere “Of the 13 losses Arsenal have suffered this season 10 losses have come against 5 teams who have done the double over us (Man City, Liverpool, Everton, Wolves, Aston Villa)” That sounds like an Arteta In post. It can be jumped on to say all Arteta has to do is improve against Everton, Wolves and Aston Villa and all will be rosy. But of course we know with the Arteta we have seen so far that teams he beat or drew with this season he can easily draw or lose those games next time around. So it evens… Read more »

Dream10

Wenger Eagle

Eze has a similar style to Nasri, Pires. Classic Wenger playmaker left of centre. My favourite type of player. He has good acceleration on him with a chance to have good end product. He has it in him to play the third CM better than Ceballos and Odegaard.

Pierre

Cazorla
Aubamayang had been starved of service this season and he is now not even making the runs off the shoulder of the defender as the ball never arrives….very frustrating for a striker.

The window of opportunity for the through ball is only open for a fleeting second, Bergkamp was the master of it and he rarely failed to deliver if the opportunity was there.

I’m not sure if it’s a fear of losing possession that makes our creative players refuse the through ball but under Arteta we tend to check back rather than take the more risky through ball.

Leedsgunner

“It can be jumped on to say all Arteta has to do is improve against Everton, Wolves and Aston Villa and all will be rosy.” The reality is our rivals don’t stand still. They will improve. It’s not a certainty we will. Because the Kronkes believe in the self sustaining model so much, it is very plausible that they will say that if we want to buy we have to sell first. Historically, apart from Alex Oxlade Chamberlain and Iwobi we have been poor at selling our fringe players. We have been poor at selling our stars. How cheap did… Read more »

Dela Mere

Ishola70

I’m impartial, I’m just stating facts.

Leedsgunner

*consistently

Ishola70

Dela Mere
“I’m impartial”

Ishola70

Of course yes.

Impartial is the word.

Kroenkephobe

Yes, Eze was one of ours. He was terrific last year at QP ha ha ha as well. He’d fit like a glove back at Arsenal and I’m starting to think he might be an upgrade on Odegaard. Much more dynamic and direct and very difficult to dispossess, just like Bisdouma. I was disappointed with MO yesterday – showed himself to be hesitant and one-footed. Elneny was justifiably motm last night. The amount of running he put in in the second half was phenomenal. I think a more mature Guendouzi could come back and do that next season and provide… Read more »

DigitalBob

Ashley Cole pre-match stated that Buyako Saka really needs to nail down a position for the benefit of his own development. I agree. Utility players are a coaches dream but generally have a negative impact on the overall productivity of a player.

I think we saw that yesterday with Saka at RWB. Yes he can perform in several positions but I really hope next season we don’t see any more of Saka at RWB, he did not look comfortable at all.

Emiratesstroller

Arsenal “parked the bus last night” and won the game albeit playing unattractive football. So what. Plenty of other teams in the EPL play often in similar fashion particularly when they play against the top teams. Frankly what did some of those who post on here expect us to do with our abysmal track record at Stamford Bridge? Did they think that we would win this game by playing expansive football? Let’s be brutally frank the current squad at Arsenal is not good enough to play pretty football against the top teams. We have been slaughtered in the past for… Read more »

englandsbest

Let’s face it, Chelsea have better players and are bang on form. Yeah, we hardly strayed across halfway line, and spent most of the game keeping them out. But we won, so full marks to Arteta, and thumbs down to all those who say he is clueless.

raptora

It was Arsenal’s Cesc, Hleb, Rosicky, RvP and crew versus Portsmouth or Middlesbrough type of game.

But we weren’t playing the role of the 2007/8 Arsenal.

WengerEagle

Cheers Dream, Leeds and Mr Serge for info on Eze. Sounds like he has a higher ceiling than Zaha, he’s already putting up similar numbers other than dribbling. Re Saka’s position, to me it’s a no-brainer. RW is where he has looked the most effective and dangerous this season. Makes him more of a goal threat as he can cut in on his left like away vs Slavia Prague and time his diagonal runs so that he takes the ball on his instep running towards goal. If he had sharper finishing he’d have cracked double figures this season, he’s getting… Read more »

Dela Mere

Emiratesstroller

The dull football has us currently in 8th position and knocked out of all Cup Competitions so parking the bus isn’t working.

raptora

Leicester, Villa and Leeds are several teams who are far more threatening than us vs the top teams.

Why can they do it but we can’t?

Do we actually have worse players than each of those teams?

Open your eyes. People have lowered the bar so much that this undeserved win is being used as a proof of what Arteta could do.

We saw what he did – lowest Arsenal finish in decades. End of. Sack the useless hack!

Kroenkephobe

Can tell you’re another that’s never kicked a ball in their life. Cazzy It’s a slow day here in West Wales so I’d love to hear an abridged autobiography of your life playing and possibly coaching football. It would help not only me but others I am sure to appreciate the depth of your footballing knowledge. I played a lot til I was about 18 at county level, and then played abroad in numerous countries at all sorts of levels, which became increasingly shit as I got older. I’m not too proud to say I’ve also “graced” Hackney Marshes and… Read more »

Kroenkephobe

Raptora

I think the difference between those three and us is athleticism, motivation and better management. They want it more than Arsenal, and they’re more disciplined and ready to buy into the manager’s plan..

Dela Mere

Emiratesstroller has summed up perfectly how under Arteta Arsenal have become a midtable team.

Ishola70

Emirates Stroller Fortunes will improve when the side commit to a blue print of how they want to play. Commit to a style of play which of course would want to be seen as progressive. If you commit to this then further down the line in the future we may not have to park the bus to have a chance of beating Chelsea. People have complained about Arteta this season in relation to chopping and changing his tactics, formation and players and trying to be too clever. It’s not a case of him being too clever. It’s a case of… Read more »

DigitalBob

Exactly Eagle, he clearly favours that right wing position to cut inside on his left. I’d also say as long as they remain fit and have no extended periods injured next season I expect both Saka and ESR to really improve on their scoring.

Although this also depends on who exactly comes in during this “Kroenke-financed” summer transfer window.

Nelson

Leedsgunner
“What are they doing that we’re not?”
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For most cases, Arsenal paid higher wages to sign those players. They are less attractive when we want to unload them. You can’t ask for top dollar if there is no buyer.

Dela Mere

PHD was right regarding how ineffective Emiratesstroller’s 10 years of positivity has been on Arsenal’s fortunes.

Nelson

For those good players, they wanted to win. When a player doesn’t want to stay, we can’t ask for top dollar.

Emiratesstroller

DelaMare and Ishola 70 Arsenal seldom “park the bus” and that is why we have lost games we could/should have won. No-one would argue that our current squad is mediocre. So getting the best out of players like Chambers,Soares, Holding, Mari, Xhaka, Elneny and Ceballos is a challenge. We have also learned that young players like Martinelli, Saka and Smith-Rowe are going to be inconsistent at this stage of their careers. Man City can afford to play Foden on a regular basis in their starting lineup. He has had three years football at this level and more importantly he is… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

De la Mare

I take comments of people like PhD with a pinch of salt.

For all his so-called intellectual superiority his knowledge of football and Arsenal is minimal.

Ishola70

Emirates Stroller

Before Arteta we seldom parked the bus or never but since Arteta has arrived this has happened more than ever before against the bigger sides albeit still not to any great extent overall. Still more than before though.

And as Mikel Arteta seems to like to portray this sense of pragmatism about him don’t be surprised to see parking the bus in the future.

You missed the main point though.

Until Mikel Arteta commits to a consistent style of play we are all wasting our time.

Dela Mere

Emiratesstroller

The moment Arteta was appointed Arsenal played drab football drawing 5 of his first 7 games in charge.

Ishola70

Emirates Stroller

Bielsa commits to a style of play and he has been praised for it.

Now Arsenal sit a few places above Leeds but Leeds have basically a Championship level quality of squad.

Arteta has to commit to a style of play to succeed.

As said before chopping and changing is not being the cleverset guy in the room. It’s a sign that you are failing to give a consistent identity to the side and without consistent identity that means no promised land under Arteta.

Foxy

Does anyone know why Saka was played at RWB when we had 3 players already for that position and Saka probably needed the rest? Sounds like Wenger becoming too reliant on a few players who then get broken as a result like Jack

Emiratesstroller

Ishola 70

Agreed.

I have posted many times that I do not like the continuous “chopping and changing” of team
and indeed I questioned whether Arteta knew what his best starting lineup is when all the
players are match fit.

Arsenal need to sort this out before next season if they are going to progress up the table.

Dela Mere

Emiratesstroller
“Arsenal need to sort this out before next season if they are going to progress up the table”

In the meantime Arteta has my 100% backing, you are a joke lol.

TR7

Zaha is a bit clumsy whereas Eze is a very smooth player. Eze and Buendia are the players who can add good value to our team without costing a fortune.

Emiratesstroller

Foxy

Arsenal played yesterday with 5 defensive players along spine and hoped that both Saka
and Tierney would fulfil both defensive and offensive duties along flanks.

Tierney was clearly not match fit and Saka had by his standards a poor game. So our offensive
options were fairly limited.

Emiratesstroller

Dela Mare

I do not give Arteta 100% backing, but it is clear that Arsenal are going to keep him at the start of next season whether you and and I believe that it is the right decision.

My view is that Arteta will have 10 games to prove himself next season. If we continue to play like we are now then he will lose his job.

Dream10

Unfortunately, I agree with Emirates stroller. Arteta will have until the November to prove himself. I’m not expecting any major improvement in the process. The best reason there is to sack him now is to avoid him having input in signings.

Ishola70

If this overhaul of the squad materialises in the summer which I don’t believe will happen but if it did then Arteta has to commit then.

He has to get his new players in and commit to a style of play throughout the season.

No more picking sides or tactics for each game.

He has to have belief that this style he commits to will be good enough across the board.

He’s a long way from this atm.

Champagne Charlie

“TR7 has already touched upon it very well but the same people who were pillorying Emery for falling short in the EL and the race for a CL spot as well as playing dull, uninspired and directionless football are now giving Arteta a pass for it with even worse results.“ Nobody has given Arteta a pass for anything, but if you think I’m holding a manager with a decades experience at various clubs to the same standard as a guy in his maiden managerial campaign then you’re a clown. The expectations shifted the second we hired a rookie, that’s basic.… Read more »

englandsbest

This idea of finding a winning style and sticking to it works – until you face a side with superior personnel. It worked for Wenger when he had the best defence plus Bergkamp, Vieira., Pires, Overmars, etc, etc.

Last night Arsenal beat a side with superior personnel and a winning style. How? By ‘chopping and changing’.

Sid

This team needs Buendia at half #8, he made more through balls than KDB when in the EPL.

Sid

Diet Peps style is clear even against inferior teams like Villareal

AFC Forever

Morning all. Arteta had no choice other than to play defensively against a superior Chelsea team. That may have upset those who don’t like Arsenal getting results but it was sensible. It worked. It is a bit hypocritical & pathetic to complain about that approach when you spend all day moaning about results, league position and the Manager. We have some very bizarre hypocrisy going on trying to turn a positive into a negative for agenda purposes. Just be fair, you can criticise and praise, there is no law against it. We know Arteta inherited a team that was hopeless… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Dream 10 and Ishola 70 This is the dilemma. Arsenal recruited a young Head Coach and then promoted him to Manager after winning the FA Cup. I have no personal objection to his appointment as Head Coach, but I do think that it was a mistake to appoint him after 6 months as Manager. As I posted last week the best formula would have been to have left him to do the coaching and leave other matters to a more experienced partner. That is what Man City did many years ago when Joe Mercer was Manager and Malcolm Allison was… Read more »

Sid

In my neck of the woods guys like Diet Pep have their nuts squeezed, A man has to carry his testicles like a badge

andy1886

Funny how xG is so important when we lose but never mentioned if we win:

xG yesterday: Chelsea 1.85, Arsenal 0.59

The point being hoping to get lucky isn’t a strategy, it’s the last resort when you don’t have a plan. It’s not that we are flexible, we clearly have absolutely no defined style of play and chop and change like the wind on a weekly basis.

AFC Forever

Charlie “It’s facts over feelings, to accumulate the third highest points tally in 22 games speaks to an improvement when a bonafide creative talent is available.” This. I genuinely believe some people are just unable to focus on anything other than the manager. He’s been unlucky with the injuries we’ve had because our squad isn’t good enough to lose a player like, for example, Tierney. When you keep losing players it affects the setup of the team so you have to chop and change. You also have to chop and change when you rotate, playing 3 games in a week.… Read more »

WengerEagle

Charlie Why always the need to throw in a jibe when putting your point across? The ‘since Christmas’ table is arbitrary, and it conveniently starts from where we had our purple patch of winning 5 in 6 in the space of a month. I could just as easily compile a since Man United at home at end of January stat that shows we have: Played 16 Won 7 Drawn 4 Lost 5 Picked up 25 points from a possible 48 Which extrapolated out over 38 matches would accumulate… 59 points. Not to mention getting dumped out of Europe unceremoniously by… Read more »

Kroenkephobe

Cazorla Thanks for that mate. You played at a higher level than me and I respect that. It was also good to read something from you that was more considered and less badinage-y. There are lots of people on here who are knowledgeable about the game. A large part of that comes from playing and being coached but you can also get a good understanding over time from watching at all levels and through various media (but there is no substitute for actually being in the ground). As for last night’s game, I’m puzzled about one thing. Do you reckon… Read more »

Marc

andy

If last night was a match in isolation everyone would say “we’ll take a bit of luck and a win” but it’s not we are an appalling team to watch. No one expects Arteta to take the team and have us challenging for the title after 2 matches but he’s had over 50 PL matches in charge now and things look even more muddled by the day. The odd good performance only covers up the cracks and the refusal by many to accept just how bad we are and to make excuse after excuse is a joke.

Matt

AFC

‘We have some very bizarre hypocrisy going on…’

Yep, we sure do – on both sides.

Dissenter

‘Nobody has given Arteta a pass for anything, but if you think I’m holding a manager with a decades experience at various clubs to the same standard as a guy in his maiden managerial campaign then you’re a clown. The expectations shifted the second we hired a rookie, that’s basic.’ You really are giving him a pass because he’s a rookie that needs to cut his teeth you’re the one choosing to change expectations to suit your preconceived bias for him. That’s precisely the reason why many of us want him gone, Arsenal shouldn’t be the crèche for him to… Read more »

WengerEagle

Nothing gets by you Spazorla.

What do you make of the ‘since February’ table? With said CAM’s at Arteta’s disposal.

AFC Forever

Andy

“xG yesterday: Chelsea 1.85, Arsenal 0.59′

Who cares? Couldn’t give a fuck mate.

We beat Chelsea because of good pressing forcing a mistake and hard work without the ball. Well done to all the players and the Manager. Lovely to beat Chelsea.

Pretty telling that so many of the hardline Arteta out are unhappy. You moan about wanting results, then when we get one you moan even more. Speaks volumes.

Champagne Charlie

Weagle You’re going to start your day indirectly calling me a hypocrite and then wonder why my response to you is pointed? Really? I don’t go after you for your views, I’ve said to you numerous times that I understand where you come from etc etc, but seems like that understanding, or even effort to understand is lost when roles are reversed. “The ‘since Christmas’ table is arbitrary, and it conveniently starts from where we had our purple patch of winning 5 in 6 in the space of a month. I could just as easily compile a since Man United… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Dissenter

It’s not a “preconceived bias” to recognise someone as a rookie and factor that into your expectations. Such a dim comment.

Gonsterous

Normally when you have an attacking manager. And he decides to park the bus against a stronger opponent and loses, people wonder why he didn’t just attack in the first place. With arteta, attacking is not an option, we have seen this when we played the likes of wolves, villa, west ham and leicester. We attack and we lose. Against the better teams, we played defensively and so far we lost both games against city, one game against utd, both games against pool, and one game against spurs. The only upside to being defensive was winning chelsea yesterday, the previous… Read more »

AFC Forever

Kroenkephoebe “Do you reckon the low block was Arteta’s plan from the start or do you think the opportunist and realist in him made him think of going defensive after ESR’s goal” Goals change games. The goal came from a well organised high press that ESR said we had been working on in training. They saw a weakness and it worked, ironically the sort of mistake we have made ourselves against the press. Up until the goal we showed a lot more from an attacking sense. The early goal changed the mindset of the manager and the players, game management… Read more »

Gonsterous

The since Christmas table is as irrelevant as picking only the games we have won and saying since the start of the season we have gotten 55/55 points. So we should be first and top of the table.

At the start of the season everyone starts with 0, everyone’s form goes up and down but at the end of the day the team that wins the most, wins the PL. When did wenger ever translate his end of season run into the next season to win the whole thing. Post 2005, never!

AFC Forever

Cazorla “This is it in a nutshell. It’s called leeway and realigned expectations. This was a massive job and let’s not pretend we were a new manager away from been title challengers this season. There were always going to be bumps in the road.” This. As I have said repeatedly, Arteta inherited a very difficult situation. Charlie made the same point as me earlier, we both thought the job needed a more experienced manager. I said that when Arteta was appointed. However, you back the Manager and take into account the mess he inherited when you set expectations. Some fans… Read more »

Kroenkephobe

Cazorla It’s a serious stretch to describe us a trending upwards at the moment. I hope the Villareal thing was the nadir but I don’t think we can safely talk about trending upwards until we’re about three quarters of the way through next season. Trending upwards at that point would look to me like the following Still in one or both English cups. Fourth or at the very least 6th in the table (wholly achievable given there won’t be any euro fixtures). Far fewer on field errors. Much improved goal difference And goals scored Fewer red cards (which inevitably turn… Read more »

Gonsterous

AFC I don’t know why expectations should be altered. Which other business does that? Yes, arteta is a rookie but shouldn’t we give him every opportunity to succeed? That means having someone more experienced guiding him and making decisions that are not wrong for the club. You can’t give him absolute control and then wonder why we are 8th and breaking all the wrong records. Arteta has made many rookie mistakes that could have been avoided had he gotten a better DOF. The club set him up to fail and the kindest thing now is to either replace him or… Read more »

WengerEagle

Charlie Re the effort to understand, I get that Arteta only took the job that he was offered and it’s why I hold no personal ill-will toward him, same as Emery beforehand. He would have been crazy to turn it down, same as Neville when offered the Valencia gig. Just because the club made the wrong hire doesn’t mean that they need to amplify that mistake by carrying on with him for another season. I am not ruling out Arteta going on to be successful in the management game eventually but he is clearly out of his depth as of… Read more »

Irish Gooner

Why was there no fuss made about Kepa using his hand to stop the back pass – i.e. stopping a goal by a foul, should have been a penalty and a red card to Kepa

Almuniasaynomore

Charlie I’m wondering what your take on the summer to come is. We’re all in agreement,I think,that it’s a defining moment for Arenal and indeed Arteta,if he is given money or raises some from sales,if not I’d imagine both sides will remain entrenched. The Arteta out side claiming he has not improved us, the in side claiming he was not adequately supported and so shouldn’t shoulder the blame. I have always been Arteta out,indeed I never wanted him in, but I try to look at the other side’s perspective. I find logic that I can agree with in some of… Read more »

China1

The FA cup run and win was absolutely a job well done by arteta. I don’t have any serious criticisms of his first half year performance and plenty of credit for him But that first 6 months doesn’t give him limitless excuses to tank us this season We could’ve won nothing this season and not qualified for Europe. I can accept that. Provided we look a demonstrably better team this season than we did when we won the FA cup. But we don’t. How many times in the whole season have we looked better than we did when we were… Read more »

Tom

Arsenal winning and climbing the table is always a good thing, especially when each place is worth a couple million £ extra( I think). Chelsea losing and especially the manner in which they did makes it even sweater. Fuck Chelsea and fuck Tuchel , that Dracula doppelgänger. Nothing would make me happier than Chelsea choking and missing out on CL next season and losing both finals. A frustrated Tuchel on the touch line is as comical as they come, but the fact Tuchel made seven changes and his Chelsea still played Arteta’s Arsenal off the park and made us look… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

“When Emery was in charge, you weren’t as bothered about the results so much so as about the performances or lack of them. We had no discernable identity or playing style under him.“ When Emery was hired he arrived as an established modern manager who was going to improve on an out of touch Wenger. I expected an immediate uptick, massively improved defensive organisation, and a slow transition into Emeryball. I had leeway on results because it was his first season, but beyond February the defence was still shambolic after buying nothing but defensive reinforcements, the identity utterly incoherent, and… Read more »

TR7

I don’t agree with the ‘massive rebuild job on his hands’ part when it comes to Arteta. Arteta always tries to insinuate that Arsenal were left very far behind by Wenger and Emery and he is now saddled with a humongous task of resuscitating the club. Wenger finished top 4 in all the seasons except his last two. He finished one of those two seasons with 75 odd points which generally is good enough for a top 4 finish. Emery for all his faults (and I really didn’t like him) finished just 1 point off top 4 in his first… Read more »

Nelson

Arteta has to make up his mind whether his target system is 4 3 3 or 4 2 3 1. Initially, we kept hearing that he wants to play 4 3 3 like the Pools and he he is missing 5 to 6 players. Now everyone thinks that he should sign another #10 like Ode. I prefer he signs two box to box midfielders and keeps Willock. 4 3 3 is a more balanced formation.

China1

Cazorla 1 game per week means less chances for fringe players and youth to get a run out and stay sharp/develop Besides all the lost money, prestige and a chance at a trophy and CL back door Knowing arteta he’s going to be even less likely to risk giving deserving fringe players minutes when the games we play have added importance. Wenger would’ve used those games to get players like Eddie, Balogun, Nelson, Azeez etc etc etc stronger and sharper or to let them put themselves in the shop window when playing against pub teams like Dundalk The idea that… Read more »

China1

Or to put it this way, if our target is to get in the CL but we’re worried about playing midweek games against average or worse continental teams then what’s even the point of getting in the CL? Where games are midweek with lots of much much better teams

Marko

As far as the differing expectations go between Emery and Arteta, the KDB and ESR analogy is a false one. Yeah to be honest the moving of the goalposts in this regard is frankly pathetic honestly. We didn’t come off an FA Cup win and sign up the likes of Gabriel and Thomas Partey to then lower our expectations to the point where midtable in the premier league and no european football qualification was acceptable. It’s mind boggling before every season the goal is to get back into the champions league by any route or at the very least top… Read more »

China1

Next season if we come outside the European places again (entirely possible, arguably likely considering some of the guys on here seem to think that’s an acceptable level for us now) then we will be sorely missing that EL money for yet another season and we’ll be wondering why we can’t afford the players we want next summer or even have to sell some of our good players to stay afloat Being out of Europe next season is a very very negative thing for arsenal. We’re not going to do a Chelsea or liverpool or utd and suddenly spend a… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Almunia That’s the breaking point for Arteta and those above him. This summer. I gave a certain level of dispensation last summer because of the factors at play, covid made it messy, it was truncated, and we unceremoniously sacked a major player behind the scenes in Raul which left a big gap to fill. It was some of the worst conditions imaginable for a managers first summer window and that was without considering the players on staff and their relative contractual situations. In the end we couldn’t bin talent (Ozil, Mustafi, Sok, Kola), we were indecisive (AMN, Holding, Torreira), and… Read more »

Marko

I’m kinda okay with not being in Europe next season. We’ve been sliding for years and haven’t been focusing enough on the league and this hardest of resets should be used to clean house and start anew. New manager new squad hopefully new owners emphasis on finishing well in the league and start from there

China1

Marko I can’t be ok with us being out of the EL

I think the risk is higher than the reward

Time will tell and if we have a really good league season or win the FA cup then fine. But if we don’t do either of the above then it’s all for nothing and I don’t feel secure living in hope based on what we’ve seen this season

Marko

China we don’t have a choice now. Obviously it would have been better if we got into Europe this season but we didn’t and now we’re being forced to focus on the league next season which is good. We can absolutely get top 4 next season with the right managerial appointment and a squad rebuild

Marko

I don’t feel secure living in hope based on what we’ve seen this season

First off I’m not hopeful when it comes to Arsenal anymore but you know when things get so bad there’s only way out and that’s up. A clear reset a new a new focus could be what is needed for the club. Let’s be honest we’ve been drifting along for years using European qualification as a crutch for sliding into mediocrity but now we can’t do that now we have to focus on something we’ve been struggling with for years and that’s our league position

Mr Serge

west ham with 1 game a week are doing well us with one a week will be great, but i do worry the kids will not play if we are not in uefa, i would only play the kids in those games

TR7

Arsenal can still qualify for Europe, right ?

Marko

but i do worry the kids will not play if we are not in uefa

I mean under the current clown of a manager we were barely playing kids in the EFL or Europa anyway. I mean this season Balogan, Azeez and Cirjan should have seen some game time against the likes of Dundalk for example. But anyway that’s besides the point next season with no european football some kids will suffer sure but if you’re good enough and we don’t have an idiot manager then they should see some game time otherwise some loans will be needed

Mr Serge

TR7 yes we can but we need to finish 7th so West ham and pool need to lose 2 games everton need to lose spurs need to drop 4 points, if that scenario happens to 2 of the sides above us we qualify as long as we beat palace and Brighton Everton – 55 points, 34 games Remaining games: Aston Villa (away), Sheffield United (home), Wolves (home), Man City (away) Tottenham – 56 points, 35 games Remaining games: Wolves (home), Aston Villa (home), Leicester (away) Liverpool – 57 points, 34 games Remaining games: Man Utd (away), West Brom (away), Burnley… Read more »

Kroenkephobe

Left

The main thing about that new jersey is the badge. Definitely a step in the right direction back to the classic away jersey of the 70s. The current badge is a fucking abomination.

As a ‘legacy fan’ , I won’t be buying one anyway but it’s better than the vast majority they’ve worn recently.

Mr Serge

Aston Villa, brighton and Palace have a big say in what will happen

Mr Serge

KronkePhobe I also hate the new badges our original badge was amazing as were most other clubs ones, why they had to simplyfy them all i will never know

englandsbest

Money is the only magic wand in football – as in life generally. Spend it on the Messis of this world and the odds are that a poor team will be transformed into champions. So, to put it bluntly, Arteta inherited a poor disaffected squad and whatever money spent, had been wasted on mostly sub-standard players. No magic wand for him. Add in a Club that had lost its identity, saddled with a negligent owner, and clearly the task that faced Arteta was immense. He gave us a clear message: this would not be a quick fix. Which defines those… Read more »

Marko

No chance we get Europe. We need to win out and like 3 or 4 teams have to fuck up a couple times.

Marko

Add in a Club that had lost its identity, saddled with a negligent owner, and clearly the task that faced Arteta was immense. He gave us a clear message: this would not be a quick fix. Which defines those whining on here about a poor season as short-sighted. I’m so glad you said this. Go back to the summer of 2018 and Unai Emery faced the exact same thing. Poor owner no identity years of slipping under Wenger. It was a big task too and no quick fix but that fucker was told he had a top 4 squad and… Read more »

Dissenter

“Add in a Club that had lost its identity, saddled with a negligent owner, and clearly the task that faced Arteta was immense. He gave us a clear message: this would not be a quick fix. Which defines those whining on here about a poor season as short-sighted.” The “negligent” owner of the club “that has lost its identity” also dropped an egoistical inexperienced manager on the club. I wonder why you Arteta-fans always leave out that portion of the challenges facing the club Can we afford a manager who’s learning the ropes right now Arteta is the main beneficiary… Read more »

Just Another Customer

We’re in Europe through that new Conference League. Fitting for ‘Tets.

Moray

Is there a better “dead rubber” team in world football than Arsenal?

The moment the pressure is off and we have nothing whatsoever to play for, expect peerless performances. It’s both predictable and shameful. Cowardice has run through Arsenal since early on in Wenger’s reign.

Wingdings

I hope Arteta doesn’t get anything out of this season as he will jsut use it for leverage. And he should’t be given a single more penny to spend. He should be sacked and replaced with a proper manager. THEN you can spend.