It’s quite a weird week to be an Arsenal fan. Personally, I’m in this football purgatory where I’m not totally detached from the season, but at the same time, not overly invested in the outcome of it.
It feels like the sort of season where it could easily go to shit… or, be a massive blowout for Arsenal as we find our footing against a bang average Villareal side.
The big talking point yesterday mainly focused on the Daniel Ek news. He’s going to fax over a £1.8b bid for Arsenal.
The Daily Mail reported that people in finance circles have had Arsenal up for sale for 2 years. I find the story deeply suspicious because if that were true, I suspect the Saudi Royal consortium that tried to buy Newcastle would have been knocking on Stan’s door. There’s simply no way Daniel Ek is the first to sniff out an opportunity for Arsenal.
You’re not a seller until you sell, anything is possible, but it just seems a bit unlikely that 1) We’d sell to Ek 2) The price would be £1.8b.
I also run into lots of questions when someone can’t afford something outright.
If he’s borrowing, the money has to be paid back. How is that happening?
If he’s buying outright, where is the infusion of cash we need for players coming from?
Outside ‘love’ and process. What is the big change that’s coming?
I mean, elite tech process at Arsenal would be a huge game-changer… but here’s something to consider. Ownership that interferes with the club is usually not a good thing. The Kroenke family do most things right. They let Arsenal spend what they earn, they don’t get involved, they empower their leaders… the problem? They are very bad talent judges.
From what I hear about Ek, he’s the empowering type… and his record proves that he’s a very good judge of what great looks like with regards to said talent.
So we’ll see, it’s an exciting rumour… I’m of the mind that what we have right now hasn’t worked for a very long time and the situation looks more and more onerous for a family that has its focus firmly in America. At some point, it might be easier just to move on from Arsenal and refocus on LA.
Right, short one today, where do you stand on Daniel Ek?
First?
Yes to Ek
4th?
Like to know how he’d finance it, but a tentative yes from me.
4th? again?
Dean Jones
Mikel Arteta’s job at Arsenal remains safe and there is expectation that he will now be given extra funds for the next transfer window.
Just one thing important to note is that no credible journalist has reported Leno wanting out.So before we start dishing out abuse at Leno, lets not forget this is just a rumour.I personally dont like the idea of our fans hurling abuse towards Leno days before a semi final.
Agree with Bob. Like to know where the money is coming from. Is he a front for few billionaires? If so I’d like to know who they are before I commit.
At this point in time I’d take any half decent owner over Kroenke.
If Kroenke is such a successful business person with net worth of 8+ billion. How can he allow Arsenal to go from top 5 team in the world to mid table mediocrity.
I really cannot understand this
Who gives a shit where the Money is Coming from as long as we get rid of this god awful American
There are many questions:
Has Ek’s business model been ethical?
Has Ek treated artists fairly, and paid them appropriately?
Will his business continue to thrive, or will it be over-taken by new platforms and business models?
Has Ek diversified to stabile and enhance his income stream?
How will Ek fund the purchase?
How will he fund investment in the club’s support and playing staff?
Can’t really say that many club owners are above reproach ment for their ethics and business dealings.
Will Ek be better, worse or similar to Kroenk overall?
Ffr is complete shot too pieces with the manc City verdict.
Ek ain’t buying squat.
Captian, because his assets are like prime real estate, the appreciate over time no matter what.
All of his teams are average over the long run except the Avalanche which like AFC was a top club before he purchased them, however after Arsene left we all see what a $h*te show it really is and is now regressing to the mean.
I Want club to be able to buy players like haaland,Messi etc
Kroenke to sell for £1.8?… We shall see, won’t we?
*billion
Tierney I think Leno himself said something about being open minded about a new challenge a couple of weeks ago
Right when our firm was in the shitter to boot
If I’m reading the tea leaves correctly Ek is playing a long game. He’s looking to put in place a “Ek + Fans” bid, fronted by The Legends (Henry/Viera and Bergkamp) and with the backing of the Arsenal Supporters Trust. The shape/structure/size/and any potential debt component of the bid will depend on lots of factors, a key one of which will be the Government’s review of football. Early days, but by announcing his intentions early, Ek is positioning himself to be in line with whatever the outcome of the government review into football comes up with, and aligning himself with… Read more »
Nothing gets certain people more riled up than Le Grove having good information.
Is the reality that once you add back the merkin to the bald pate and a little fuzz on the upper lip, Ek is none other than Kroenke himself, and we’re all being played in a game of PR re-branding so we shut up and start consuming again?
Is the name Ek just a coincidence, or does it really represent the initials of Enos (Stanley) Kroenke?
I think that if the kroenkes decide to sell it will be solely from the point of view that they believe they are more likely to lose money than increase the value of their asset. Pride is of course a factor too but I dont think for a second that Stan would allow himself to become the laughing stock of american billionaires by losing a great deal of money because of pride or principless.
‘ good judge of talent ‘ is totally secondary to the main question which is FINANCE. The interests fees collaterals for decade(s) into the future is the horizon of all this . The Kroenke , much richer , bought the club for approximate 500 mil in all ( Liverpool on comparison cost only about 300 mil ) but ,spread over few years of purchase process ( stocks, Usmanov etc) , where and how will Daniel come with 4 times as much and at what price? For perspective , The Glazers stripped Manu of a 1 billion dollars by estimate ,… Read more »
I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again
Don’t get fooled again
Kroenke, Ek what the ‘eck
1.8 billion is nowhere near enough for a start and secondly it’s borrowed money so we get saddled with debt from the start, cannot see this an attractive move in any way. All sounds very jolly with some of the legends getting involved too many Indians comes to mind.
We are 3rd in net spend list over the last five years, the money has largely been wasted, this not the fault of the owners, be careful what you wish for.
The bid is rubbish, riddled with debt, kick into touch guy is just not wealthy enough
Why would anyone think leveraging the club against shares in Spotify is a good idea? We’ve gone from vinyl to tapes, to CD’s, to Apple store, to Spotify and Apple Music The market moves, it’s only a matter of time before innovative people come and take a share of that market with better ideas Where are interest and capital repayments going to come from? The idea the government should steal legally obtained assets is bonkers It’s the type of behaviour you’d see from some tinpot Marxist lunatics Foreign direct investment would disappear, nobody is going to invest in a country,… Read more »
“Who gives a shit where the Money is Coming from as long as we get rid of this god awful American” Careful what you wish for. Pedro pointed out a number of accurate items, they are hands off owners, yes. They let the club spend what it makes, yes. They are poor judges of appropriate talent, yes again. Its not like there are potential owners beating each other up for the opportunity to buy Arsenal, there just are not. And as much as you hate American ownership, its hard to beat them into the ground when you look in your… Read more »
What do you mean the owners don’t get involved.
They were going to take us out of the EPL and with it our whole fabric as a club and heritage and history.
I can’t believe how easily the owners have been forgiven by some.
Maybe it’s from those that were not too bothered about tearing up our history as a club or even secretly supported it.
Wattsy, generally agree however the fact that the money has been wasted IS the fault of the owners. They appoint every employee from Vinai down, if they appoint crap people (or don’t fire crap people they inherited) then it’s on them if their money is spent badly.
Just to correct you there Ernest, United fans opposed the Glazers from the start and continued to do so even when they where winning top trophies. The leveraged buyout (immoral if not illegal) has taken over £1BN out of the club in payments to the Glazers and ineterest and fees on the loans.
Sid (and Rich)
My ‘massive gimp’ personality is German. His name is Helmut Berger. The ladies love it, especially the Geordies
Anything to get us out of the kroenkes hands is a good step worth taking
United Supporters are one step short of pure insanity and they likely deserve the owners they have.
Thank you for the insight, Andy.
Dont know where this all winds up, but this much i know, football isn’t just football any longer. Idealistic visions remain just that, as they move further and further away from reality.
China1
Iirc he also said he is happy at Arsenal.
And that is the standard response 95% of footballers give in an interview. They are actually taught how to handle media duties and usually always try to answer such questions with vague answers.
The other 5% usually comprises of your Wilsheres and Puyols and so on.
I think Man U should forfeit the game against Liverpool for not controlling their fans — but the government and the FA are gutless at the moment when it comes to facing up to fans
and in that vein I’m concerned that ‘wayward’ action by Arsenal fans on Thursday evening could give UEFA an excuse to sanction AFC — because UEFA don’t give a rat’s about fans
I am optimistic of our chances on the pitch…it would be ironic — and part of our ‘Arsenal DNA’ — to see a decent performance nullified because of actions off the pitch
Bit fed up reading about Ek and ethics regarding recording artists. No-one is forcvcing the artists to be with Spotify, it is a free market.
it is also a bit disingenouos as before Spotify came along, artists werent getting anything as everyone ised Pirate Bay, especially once FLACs came along.
And Spotify is shit, Tidal is so much better.
On a rather more serious note, today saw the opening of the trial into the killing by the police of the great ex Villa forward Dalian Atkinson which sounds truly horrific. I thought he was a terrific player.
Probably should not say too much while the trial is going on.
And what a load of tosh from some on here about the Man United fans. We should be supporting the Man United fans in their stance against shit owners just like we have shit owners. We should be in unison in recognising the same kind of situation we have. These Man United fans made a stand to what they saw as an outright attack on their football club’s history and heritage and that a very important fabric of many Englishmans lives was going to be taken away overnight. It seems some of you just don’t give a shit about English… Read more »
On another topic how sad to read about the death of Dalian Atkinson and the ongoing trail A salutary lesson for anyone who thinks that what happened to George Floyd could never happen in the UK.
Frauen und Bier immer von unten, @Helmut Berger
Beat me to it Kroenkephobe, truly disgusting actions by the accused if witness reports are accurate.
I have little to no interest in Ek turning up and splashing cash tomorrow, I’m also not interested (overly) in how he’s buying the club. My points of interest are how he’s looking to govern the club, what he wants from the club, his track record in other businesses. Ownership dictates long term growth. Am I interested in being owned by an opaque American who has a collection of utterly unsuccessful sports franchises? Or am I interested in a communicative, transparent young fan of football/Arsenal who completely changed a whole industry? I know more about Daniel Ek and his thoughts… Read more »
Daniel EK has been fleecing artists, now he wants to fleece football fans too
The streaming platform pays artists approximately $0.00437 per stream, with artists needing to get around 360,000 streams to earn minimum wage
CC,
Well said – my sentiments exactly.
Thank you for the German witticism
This one may apply to Arsenal fans regarding a change of ownership?
Man soll das Bier nicht vor dem Kater loben
[for not inclined to look it up…
It translates as “don’t praise your beer until you’ve experienced the hangover”.]
Helmet Berger
I bet you hear this quite a lot, while your tied to the bed in your favourite gimp mask
Dein Schwanz ist buchstäblich das Kleinste, was ich je gesehen habe, du seltsame marxistische Fotze
Sid Thats a very small number and artists definitely deserve more. But before Spotify, majority of those streams were earning them zilch thanks to illegal streaming and download websites. And I’m sure many here including are guilty of using these free websites. + Unlike YT, twitch, etc the ad revenue is drastically lower for auido only platforms like Spotify. Its human tendency to prefer video+ audio over only audio. Spotify is just the start and I’m sure as more ad revenue comes in, the $$ per stream will increase too. One more thing. I think I read somewhere that $… Read more »
“We should be supporting the Man United fans in their stance against shit owners just like we have shit owners. We should be in unison in recognising the same kind of situation we have.” By doing what, throwing bottles and projectiles, Ishola? There is supporting a cause and there is the shit that went on this past Sunday. If supporters want to be taken seriously then do it in a constructive manner and not through force and hooliganism. You are likely one that longs for those days, eh Ishola? Get over yourself just long enough to realize that there are… Read more »
Rich
Que te vayas a la puta que te pario… Ciao boludo.
Sid
That quote was pretty esoteric, even by your standards. Not one for the feminists like Nouveau Rich…
Well what do you know, Mourinho has resurfaced at Roma for the next three years. That didn’t take long.
I think he’d be an ek of an owner …
Valentin I liked your reply to kroenkephobe regarding Given, a very fair assessment. I’m a bit biased because I’ve watched Given rescue Ireland so often he’s a goalkeeping hero of mine. I actually did a bit of research,something I never do,cos I was trying to work out what height he was in comparison to the greats and I was amazed to find he was 6’1″, same as big nev and banksy. He’s actually taller than Shilton and Clemence, both 6′ exactly. Like you I would have presumed him smaller. Still he was magnificent on his day and he had many… Read more »
You make some great points Pedro, thanks Ek, in my opinion appeared ok when first he tweeted, then he mentioned bringing Paddy, DB and TH on board. That was a very weak move. All Arsenal Legends as players of course, but careers beyond playing awful. Sacked by Nice, Ajax and Monaco respectively The weakest aspects about our club are transfers, contracts, team management and coaching. Sure the owner is ultimately responsible for these appointments, but please don’t tell me SK had even heard of Arteta or Edu. As for fans and 51%. Jesus, I wouldn’t trust them to make a… Read more »
What a reunion it will be- Mkhi and Mourinho.
The manager ousted him from ManU.
The player has been speaking bad about the manager ever since
Hi Almunia, Selby is robotic isn’t he? Must be a very difficult opponent. Murphy seems a really good egg and is a flair player. Snooker is growing on me as part of the aging process… Agreed about Val’s comments which were really interesting. I don’t even have an inside track on Haverfordwest County, my local team, so to know some of the background at Arsenal must be brilliant. I once attended a fan’s forum in the conference room in the back of the clock end. It was broadcast on capital gold sports. I wrote what I thought was a pithy… Read more »
The annoying thing about Mourinho’s new gig is that it saves Spuds money.
Spuds will still pay out EUR 9m in each of the next two years, but they save EUR 7m each year compared to what they were previously on the hook for, plus any contracts where Jose takes his previous staff to Rome.
Pedro – and yes to Ek of course. The guy watches Arsenal games during work meetings. Say no more.
All these ridiculous kowtowing to mob action will allow the hooliganism of yesteryears to seep back in.
How does destroying expensive media equipment or filching corner flags and balls help to drive out the Glazers?
Pedro is asking the right questions of Ek
Where is the money coming from?
Is he just going to load up un hedge funds loans like so many?
What’s his vision of Arsenal?
Some of the stuff he’s saying is just contrived PR nonsense, like saying he “loves the fans”. That just BS pandering.
The premier league needs to protect their brand
What happened on Sunday was utterly shameful and they need to dock points from United to make an example of them.
Kudos to the thousands of United fans that made their point known peacefully. The hundreds that breached the perimeter let the worthy cause down.
Kroenkephobe Class. The chants must have been something else in those days. I was too young to fully appreciate the dilemma at the time but defo Shilton for me too. Still the amount of quality keepers during that era,unreal. You’d really want to be a snooker obsessive to value Selby, he just doesn’t have the charisma to endear him to the masses,but I love him. Not quite Cliff Thorburn but a gritty steel that I love. Higgins, White or the rocket,now there’s a debate for the great entertainer but as I said before my GOAT is Hendry. What’s the craic… Read more »
Poor Mkhtarian. Mourinho coming to ruin any semblance of form/confidence he found
EK is Diet Kroenke
Im telling you for free!
Chelsea have released a statement which details plans for them to allow three elected supporter representatives to attend board meetings. They will be allowed to provide fan sentiment to be considered in all club decisions. This is a good step by them, fair play.
Would Stan ever allow this? Of course not. This is one of many reasons why Ek’s bid should be welcomed. KSE have overseen the club for a decade and we have gone completely backwards. It’s not as if their American teams are any good, all trash and have never won anything.
Diss I respectfully disagree. I don’t see what manure fans did yesterday as potentially leading to a resurgence of in-stadium hooliganism, and I think the whole thing was pretty tame but clearly orchestrated to grab headlines. That’s one of the main aims of protesting right? Interestingly, it got huge coverage (as our stateside friends frustratingly found out during our game with the barcodes) and was reported in depth by CNN. To my mind, it kept the post ESL pot boiling rather nicely. I can imagine the glazers spitting their golden grahams over their silk pyjamas as it diminished their brand… Read more »
Having an owner who actually knows what football is must be better.
Having an owner who is an Arsenal fan is better.
Having fans who can have a voice and some shares must be better.
Having some club legends around helping out must be better.
Bring it on
City’s strength and depth is soo deep, quality all over the squad.
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/551686-musicians-human-rights-orgs-urge-spotify-to-scrap-speech-recognition-tech
Spotify upsetting musicians and human rights groups with their speech/mood recognition technology…..
Kroenkephobe
Speaking from the perspective a foreign fan
The Arsenal fan protests on the Friday we played Everton got as much publicity as the disgraceful scenes at OT on Sunday.
What happened at the stadium was the handiwork of yobs, there was no calculations involved, Whatever they were trying to attain spun out of control very quickly. Had they breached the stadium and done an organized seat-in, the results will be different.
Lets try no to justify filching corner flags and damaging media equipment, shall we?
Ek has gotten rich by not paying royalties. A smart guy but highly suspect. I’d rather stay with the devil we know. The time to get rid of Stan was when Hill-Wood recommended him as owner after telling us that he had no right to set foot in the marble halls. That was a while ago. Since then the Club has declined year on year, lost its identity, excised its heart and soul. And now, when Stan at last recognises the necessity to get the Club back where it used to be, and has appointed a manager determined to do… Read more »
Kroneohobe Re Shelton. I thought the Tina incident was whilst he was at Forest. I rightly or wrongly recall being at the City Ground (the closest one to my home) chanting “Tins, Tina, Tina”, and some wag shouting “Does your wife know you’re here?” I preferred Clemence, to some extent because he wasn’t Shilton. Had to put up with too much of Forest in the 70s whilst being brought up in the county. And my first AFC game……effing Gemmil goal of the season. Did enjoy 0:1 in a later FA cup game, and a magnificent away win with the team… Read more »
Almunia Ha ha. Nice blast from the past. My mum had a crush on Thorburn. I think that’s when I first developed my instincts for piss taking! He suffered from association with the other two members of Canada’s snooker triumvirate – heavy Bill Werbeniuk and his mega penchant for pint after pint of lager, and the mulleted lothario Kirk Stevens. Normal, dull, mustachioed Cliff never stood a chance. Man, he was slow. We’ll have to keep up the green baize diatribe as other tournaments follow. Any other snooker fans out there? Pedro will probably kick us off for being two… Read more »
Nothing wrong with that call kroenkephobe. I know that in the immediate aftermath of the esl announcement if someone had said ” wait until the _ fans start to protest,they’ll not stand for it” I wouldn’t have put Arsenal in the blank first.
Flippin phone and auto correct
Shilton
Marwood
Obviously.
And the FA cup goal was Stapleton.
A smash and grab result
Kroenkephobe,
This one’s for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piIp_6rIets
Pedro’s post same sentiment as mine on here yesterday. Ek has about $5 bn tops =-maybe less – more than most but nowhere near enough to spend £1.8bn. – on a probable loss making asset After you translate his dollar wealth to sterling, it means the club is worth more than 50% of his net worth. More importantly, that wealth is represented largely by Spotify shares. Unless we get a Middle Eastern investment fund, no one is probably going to be able to buy out Kroenke without massive gearing So how does this improve us long run? If he builds… Read more »
May be it’s not Ek alone? Could it be possible that there are more than 1 investors involved and Ek has been decided as the face of this operation because he is an Arsenal fan.
PS
Nice one.
You’re probably right. I just remember it was a Derby County game where he got a North London roasting. Maybe the fun at Highbury was just after his transfer?
Its funny how we develop favouritism and antipathies towards other teams and players. I’m glad there are others who remember it too – I had mates who were Leicester and Manure fans and they remember tinagate warmly as well. A professional footballer doing the nasty in the back of a very small car still makes me chuckle.
Did the other two anecdotes ring any bells?
Cheers WOAB. I enjoyed that. Reminded me of that one that they did about darts where they were scoring the booze consumed rather than the arrows.
Got a favourite player? Mine has to be Ronnie because of his love for AFC, and he’s simply brilliant. Even my sports hating other half will watch the rocket.
Kroenkephobe
Yeah, Mcloughlin went,think he came on at some stage. We also brought Eddie mcgoldrick, proud times to be a gooner!. Wasn’t it Merson who said that it was mcgoldrick’s signing that made him realise arsenal were going in the wrong direction?
Snooker off season here now anyway, by the time it restarts Pedro will be a shadow of the man he was, mourning the loss of Arteta or standing by his side like pinky and the brain,preparing to take over the world.
Either way I’d say our ramblings will be deemed harmless and irrelevant!
Kronkephobe Had a look on the web Tina was May 1980, whilst at Forest. Looking at AFC fixtures, AFC home to Forest 5th May 1980. So, both of us partially correct. I do recall same chants at City Ground, so probably lingered. The 2 other anecdotes I’ve heard too. The 70s and 80s were difficult being an isolated AFC family in the East Midlands, having to put up with LFC and Forest fans. Man U fans could still be put back in their box though. Hated Filbert Street, as away supporters were located beneath home ones, who often spat or… Read more »
You don’t want a remake of the Chinese “billionaire” that bought AC Milan and ended up getting loans from hedge funds that eventually took over the club after the loanee defaulted.
As mentioned already, Spotify is on shaky ground and could very well end up like the Myspace of the music streaming line.
Sarthak Good point. There is zero chance EK is doing this alone, and most likely his principal partner will be a bank/Fund and he will simply leverage the club Think what Utd fans are really protesting about. Do we really think they care how the club is managed financially? No, they only care that they are no longer No 1, and worse, have been out financed by their city rivals. They have the 2nd net spend and that’s not good enough for them Arsenal fans will turn on EK if he doesn’t fund the club back to the top, and… Read more »
Helmet Burger
I’m a fan of the snooker, loved the Welsh open this year, the final was a classic
Also love the darts
Wahrscheinlich nicht so sehr, wie Sie es genießen, ein Gimp zu sein
Lets try no to justify filching corner flags and damaging media equipment, shall we? Dissenter Given your moniker, don’t you think it’s a little ironic that you seem to be against dissent? Personally I don’t give a flying fuck about manure fans’ protests as you’d expect, but a few stolen corner flags does not a heinous crime make. Far worse things have happened (riots) and do still happen (homophobia and racism to name but two) in stadia every week so I’m not sure we need to be clutching our pearls. Genuine question – what do you think should happen to… Read more »
No Mbappe?
The ball has never touched the arm.
The problem with the Hill-Woods and their board is that they didn’t seem to invest at crucial times which could have continued / brought success.
I’m thinking of around 72/73, and 78-80.
The first phase could have regained position and moved backup from 2nd and 3rd, and losing finalists and semi-finalists.
Investment in the late 70s could have pushed the team on from cup specialists and retained the likes of Stapleton and Brady for a year or two longer, and then obtained adequate replacements (although Terry Neill wasn’t the right one to manage such a transition)
MC scores!
Doesnt really change anything for PSG..they still need to score two
PS I had a good few afternoons at Filbo in the 70s. Neither a great ground nor a safe one for away fans. Saw my first ever Arsenal game there – a heavy defeat. 76? 77? Their crew was called the baby squad and were reckoned to be dab hands with Stanley knives. Nice. Was wondering if I’d missed a signing there when you mentioned Marquis. Marwood was terrific wasn’t he. Hard working and a great crosser and dribbler. Remember the mercantile Cup that we won? He was on fire. I loved Alan Smith too – a perfect centre forward… Read more »
Leno would never have played that pass to zchenko
Ederson is the KdB of goalkeepers
Ps
Honest question as I don’t know the answer. Did Arsenal under the Hill-Woods ever put in outside investment into player additions?
For context, my first game was ’73, so knew nothing. I did, however, always feel the club could have pushed on to the the very top of European football during the early Wenger years, and done it without unmanageable debt.
Of course everything changed when the likes of Abramovich arrived on the scene
Ps
Honest question as I don’t know the answer. Did Arsenal under the Hill-Woods ever put in outside investment into player additions?
For context, my first game was ’73, so knew nothing. I did, however, always feel the club could have pushed on to the the very top of European football during the early Wenger years, and done it without unmanageable debt.
Of course everything changed when the likes of Abramovich arrived on the scene
I would be amazed if KSE sold to Ek, for starters, as Wenger hinted, the Swede could have been a little more discrete if he was really serious about a buyout
Stan will stay , hoping Richard Garlick will.be one of the last pieces in the jigsaw in running the club properly, before he and others attempt ESL2
@FB – My uderstanding is that the only people to put any additional money into Arsenal post war were Granada Media and David Dein. The reason being they bought newly issued shares whereas the other shareholders (including Fiszman) bought their holdings from other shareholders (so no money went to the club, just to the sellers). And no shareholder or director put any personal money in outside if their shareholding.
My favorite piss take was when David Pleat was caught (three times) kerb crawling while Sours manager. I seem to recall a Vinyl Vera bouncing around the stand at the lane and a number of chants asking about specific sexual acts that may or may not have occurred. We won 2-1 and I managed to get into the east stand with the Spud supporters wearing my Arsenal shirt under my jacket.
Sours = Spurs, freudian slip?
Thanks for that Andy1886
David Smith
I have feeling that KSE wouldn’t care who they sold to, if , they decided to do so. Owning a UK asset is hugely appealing to almost all foreign investors as it’s a safe haven. Stable democracy, very flexible financial regulatory authorities etc
Now I must google “Richard Garlick” 🙂
Also, I’m trying to watch the City PSG game