There is a story doing the rounds via Eurosport that basically states Martin Ødegaard isn’t quite sure about Arsenal next season because though he buys into the project Arteta is selling, there are some other players that don’t.
Now, Eurosport has zero credibility for stories like this but as with most made up rumours, there’s a grain of truth that makes it believable. Arsenal boast a small collection of handsomely paid senior players that do not give a fuck and their bad behaviour tends to only be inconsequential when the hungry young kids put on a show.
This is where the football equations about the future of Arteta start kicking into gear.
Suppose we sack him tomorrow, what type of manager do you want at Arsenal?
Let’s talk about the game-changing rockstars. There are very few in world football that can take you to the top just because of their personal IP. Pep G, Conte, Klopp, Zizou, and maaaaybe Poch. Diego Simeone, the highest paid rockstar at £38m a season, is not on the list now. We cannot match any of those names for salary demands or transfer kitty.
Arsenal has spent the last 6 year pissing transfer money away. There’s no warchest in 2021. If a rockstar doesn’t have money to spend, they tend not to move. Maybe you get lucky with someone like Klopp, but really, he moved to Liverpool because he beleived in the owners vision. We don’t have that pull with KSE. That’s not me being down on Arsenal, we are massive, but right now, we’re at our lowest ebb for mostly everything a rockstar would look for in a move.
The second tier of managers you can look towards are the more experienced hands that aren’t quite elite in 2021. Names like Luis Enrique, Louis Van Gaal, Lopetegui, Eddie Howe, and probably Nuno. Guys that’ll come in and crack heads, play the discipline card, but ultimately, not really move you forward as a football club. People talk about Allegri, but I can tell you, there’s a reason he’s not in a job at the minute. His hardcore disciplinarian approach and his bland football wouldn’t work for the fans or the players, not to mention a name like that has already demanded huge wages and a fat war chest we didn’t have 3 seasons ago.
This batch of managers will run into the same problems that Arteta is having. Do you think the squad of players that downed tools on Wenger and Emery would react strongly to someone coming in with an iron fist? I have my doubts. Players will go along for the ride, suss that we didn’t hire in elite, then we’ll see what happened under Emery. Pretty much the exact thing that is going on at Spurs at the moment, and Jose is like, the king of 2nd tier management these days.
Then you get into the next tier of managers. The innovative new generation of coaches that are breaking in at clubs all around Europe. This is my preferred tier for a club in the state we’re in right now. This is where the opportunity is to jump a couple of levels without spending a lot of money, because these people build highly technical teams that think differently, it’s a truly transformational approach that can really move you forward if you make it work. The football is exciting, the style constantly evolves, and it future proofs your club. Top clubs will start pulling from this batch of managers within the next 3 years.
Nagelsmann is #1 here, but he is not going to Arsenal because he knows he works best in a structure built to support him, he’s also well out of our range right now. But say there’s another Nagelsmann in Germany, that wants to coach innovative style of cognitive football… do you think the reaction from our current batch of players is going to be any different? Do you honestly believe the things Arteta is asking of players would be vastly diferent under another innovative coach? I don’t think so. Worth noting that Nagelsmann doesn’t work with top tier players on mega money and most of his squad is very young by design. We are a whole different ball game when it comes to ego management.
Every coach is going to ask more of Auba. No elite manager is starting William Saliba in the Premier League this season. Every young coach is going to expect every player to give more. Every coach coming to Arsenal will 100% ask our players to do things they’re not used to doing and that will not go down well with a squad that has consistently shown it lacks character. Also… any young innovative coach that is asked to be the MANAGER is going to fumble around whilst they find their footing. Mistakes will happen whoever you bring in at this tier, because this model usually only works when the machine around them is prebuilt and rock solid.
Arteta is in the innovator category. He’s one of the best young coaches in Europe, people might not appreciate it right now, but circumstances are improving even if you choose to ignore them. There are problems he’s made worse, no doubt, that’s part of the cost of hiring a rookie. At a normal club, he’d have been protected by a Luis Campos or Ralph Rangnick. We’re not a normal club. But here’s the thing… the place he’s taking the football is where we need to be heading. There’s no such thing as a middle ground. Short-cutting like Moyes takes you nowhere in the longterm. Arsenal need to hit the Champions League then be ready to compete, that is the job Arteta needs to deliver, and he has the right coaching to do that.
So Arsenal either jump ship mid-ocean, in a project that has been tracking well since Christmas, or they see it out and build back properly.
Given the options above, it’s pretty clear why Arsenal are very likely going to stick it out with Arteta. The coaching is paying dividends, things only tend to fall apart when we have to revert to the pre-Xmas starting 11. Our issues have never been clearer. We have some character flaws to address and we need to exit the error makers. There’s no secret wedge of cash ready to activate this summer, nor would there be for another manager, so it’s probably more cost effective to stick to the same coach that has us mostly tracking like a top 4 team since Christmas.
There are also some pretty simple things the club could do to help Arteta out. Vinai should not be sanctioning a new move for David Luiz. He’s a comfort blanket that makes errors, doesn’t show for games he thinks are beneath him, and he’s just had surgery at 34. He also shares an agent with Edu. Let his new deal sunset this summer and bring William Saliba into the fold.
Edu should be doing all he can to move on the problem characters this summer. Tell certain players they won’t land game time if they don’t leave and ease them out the door. Don’t wait until the last day of the window to have tough conversations. There is no one over the age of 25 we should be refusing transfers. I’d put Auba on that list, if someone wants him on a free, let him leave.
Arsenal should staff up with young players, if the fans see a notable shift in that starting 11 next season, it’ll make life easier in the stadium. Arteta should also fix his storytelling, because despite being very good at talking to the media, he’s shite at articulating a clear vision.
Tell the fans we’re going on a journey. Give us goals that go beyond top 4. What does the football look like? How are we going to do it? What do we need to fix? Repeat it over and over again. If it takes 3 years, tell the fans, be honest… because part of the issue we have right now is we’re all working off Willian taking us to Champions League glory in two season. Not happening. So pivot to a story we can get excited about. Inspire the fans the way you inspire the kids like ESR.
Arsenal are where they are now because they spent 10 years pondering whether they were regressing, backed up by a whole group of visionless fans who cautioned it might be a mistake to let someone with dead ideas leave. We tried to fix a decade of complacency with a tier 2 managers and that crushed us further. Emery is your warning against ‘tried and true’ at the level we can play at. We now have a coach at the club that has the right future for us… it’s taking longer than hoped to cut out the rot, but I promise you, we will get there.
There’s no silverbullet out of this mess though, it’s going to be a slog and the pandemic made everything worse. But we’re Arsenal. There’s every chance this summer builds on a brilliant January. We have exceptional kids coming through the ranks everyone is excited about. If we stick to the plan, the fruits will be sweet… if we give up and go tier 2, we’re not going anywhere for a long time.
Let’s see what we have today… Slavia Prague would be a great place for the kids to remind us that the future is bright. x
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Many Interesting questions remain but it’s been quite clear Arteta isn’t the one, sadly.
Pedro please stop quoting this top 4 since Christmas .
There was a purple patch lasting 7 league games over approx 30 days
Post those 7 games there has been 9 league games and the points tally from those 9 games didn’t match the tally for the first 9 games of the season..
Arteta one of the best young coaches in Europe.
Can’t make it up, utter tosh.
Base on what?
I don’t belive this myth that every coach will run into the same issues as Arteta.
If your loved by your players they will give their all for you. Look at whats happening at West Ham for instance.
You can build alot of confidence from that.
It’s all well and good implying that we stick with Arteta come what may but it doesn’t work like that and really you have given up if you are willing to give Arteta carte blanche and there are zero repercussions for him for failing going into next season. Three seasons now of no consequences for him for underacheiving? If Arteta fails again next season and failing is what he is doing at this time then there will be no option but to roll the dice again on another level 2 tier manager whether that level 2 be experienced or a… Read more »
Arteta is a terrible manager. All this innovator bollocks, they don’t call him lego man just cus of his hair, it’s because he has the personality and ideas of a brick
With you Pedro on this.Interestingly the knives out merchants & instant success mob totally disregard the notion that this project is a REBUILD job.We do not have the finances to throw money at it .Nor an owner willing to stump up more money 💰 So what you’ve proposed is the only logical solution.Not exciting enough for some I guess .We are IMO in the middle or so of this process.There’s plenty more s** t to get rid( which in some cases has been extremely difficult) As Manu Petit pointed out in a recent article .There is a hardcore of 4/… Read more »
All this talk of project is bollocks if Arteta doesn’t improve matters by some distance next season.
He will be a failed manager of Arsenal. No more, no less.
I think Arteta will be shown the door by the end of next season if he doesn’t improve significantly from this season. The only thing that could save him is if the football itself is very exciting to watch even if results are erratic and inconsistent. But I don’t think we are going to get consistent exciting football from Arteta regardless of whether too many points are dropped again. You begin to wonder whether this appointment of Arteta was in fact a clever move from those above. Not clever in respect of acheiving real success at the real top end… Read more »
Let’s hope Arteta is a very fast learner and next season we see very marked inprovement from Arsenal.
Basically what I have been saying since the start of his tenure and the start of this season, 6th or 7th at best this year and 3 years to rebuild. Nothing I have seen has make me think any different, as far as I can see, it’s pretty much on track with what I expected. We only have about 7 or 8 players Max (including Saliba) at the club worth keeping, any injuries to these will only make things worse, another 2 years minimum unless we can shift a truck load of player and get half a dozen in this… Read more »
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Hopefully by next season we will start to see Artetas team & an improvement.With most of the deadwood he inherited,shifted.If there is no visible progress or realistic targets achieved then yes we will need to move on & start again.One step forward & two steps back.
The board chose a rookie because they themselves are novices when it comes to football.
that’s probably not the best post , red rag to a bull comes to mind .Arteta seems very very inexperienced to me and massively lacking in the inspiring and man management departments and his personality looks to be a real issue with some players making them appear as problem players when we do not really no that is the case and anyway that is a big part of a mangers job turning the problem players around and getting the best out of them. I think I have probably mentioned this before but being a city and learning man management was… Read more »
Stopped reading at “He’s one of the best young coaches in Europe”. Lol he’s lost more games than he’s won this season and we’ve scored fewer goals and conceded more.
Putting Nagelsman and Arteta in the same category of managers is so funny too.
And Allegri didn’t play “bland” football getting to two champions league finals in 3 seasons. Again, it’s okay to not like a manager or have your preferences but don’t go on disparaging managers who are a million miles in level above your anointed favorite.
Not slagging you off. But come on Pete, just let it go.
Top four since Christmas means nothing. You went on about this last year. “Since Arteta took over league table” Just let it go. Where are we now?
Top four since Christmas sounds like the whole we have more points in the Calendar year rubbish Wenger and his defenders used to come up with towards the tail end of his reign year. Good statistic but absolutely useless in the long run
Oh and we had better stats and seemed to have an idea what we were doing at least for longer periods when we had most of the “deadwood” playing most of whom have now been correctly moved on but somehow with what is meant to be improvements on the squad and one of the best young coaches in the world, we’re decidedly even worse off especially in the league.
Can’t tell me we don’t have enough to be playing so much better than we currently are which just about puts the whole player poverty cry to shame really
The margins between where we currently are, and being in the mix for top 4, are relatively small when you break it down But the best coach and tactician in the world, couldn’t make up those margins, without better decision making and squad planning Arteta pushed hard to get Willian at the club Arteta pushed hard to renew Aubameyang’s contract Arteta renewed Holding’s contract, and is apparently pushing to renew Elneny’s contract Arteta turned down offers for Bellerin + Niles, signed Soares on a 4yr deal, then loaned out Niles 3 months later, and now both Soares + Bellerin are… Read more »
Pedro is still struggling with the realization that he’s backed a wrong horse, no different from when he put all his eggs in the Gazidis basket. Arteta made too many problems worse since he grabbed powers that should have gone to the technical director. He’s too personality deprived to become a top manager of club that doesn’t have £500 million to throw at a problem. He’s not a long term project minded manager and he’s too reactive for me.No project driven manager would pick Mustafi ahead of Saliba. No visionary manager subs in Auba when we were 3-1 up against… Read more »
Arteta has been part and parcel of every flawed decision we’ve made in the club in his tenure; Auba;s extension, Saliba’s maltreatment, Willian’s signing, keeping AMN when he couldn’t tie down any position and signing Runnarson.
Who gives a rookie driver a chance to drive their most treasured antique car?
I believe if Arteta fails to win the Europa Cup then he has 10 PL games at the beginning of next season to save his job
That should be the correct remit.
I will give Arteta the same line as Emery.
He walked into this situation so he should be prepared for it. No excuses are needed.
Get the job done or get shipped out. It is a collective BTW. If Arteta bombs, you can expect a lot of players to follow.
Then again, since Arsenal don’t have $$ we are likely to just thread water and wait for their contracts to run out.
And the sad truth is that I spend more time on Le Grove than actually watching Arsenal.
Well, I admire your relentless wish to believe, even if the evidence is. mixed, to put it politely. Is Arteta a great coach? Where does that come from? Man City – where the time, talent and money is overflowing, and he can hide in the shadow of Pep, not having to make the big decisions Pep does. Maybe he is, but it seems to me a case of wishful thinking. As you yourself say, he cannot articulate his vision, preferring tight-lipped press conferences and ready excuses. I can agree that there is no sense in dumping him only to go… Read more »
Gazza “I believe if Arteta fails to win the Europa Cup then he has 10 PL games at the beginning of next season to save his job. That should be the correct remit.” It may well follow the Emery timeline. Emery failed to land the Europa League and was got rid of before the next season was out. And if things don’t improve for Arteta next season we will hear the same stories as we heard regarding Emery. He has lost the players blah blah. There will be a section of the fanbase of course that will want to soldier… Read more »
Rich’ The answer to your question lies in the FA cup win last summer Arteta assumed larger than life powers once he won the FA cup. The pretenders in the club surrendered to a rookie still learning the coaching business. They gave Raul’s powers to Arteta, rather than consolidate it in a proper DoF. They created a monster fir Arsenal. Analyses the Saliba situation again; An Uber-talented young French defender who came from a. league that shit down in March 2020 wasn’t given a proper chance to prove himself even though he resumed earlier than expected. He was filing for… Read more »
If he is knocked out of the EL he will be gone, the players will down tools for the remaining EPL games and it will get toxic.
Diet Pep would not make it anywhere even with a big budget, his style is anti football and lack his personality lacks the aura of Simeone, he is at best a broke down Poch.
Failure in the overall structure of Arsenal can also lead to appointing the wrong football manager for the club.
Perhaps they may stumble upon the right manager by chance in the future.
I fear the narrative Arteta’s media spinners will drive is that Arsenal was the problem< not the saucy manager and his futuristic sideline fashion tastes.
Arteta will leave Arsenal a more refined manager because we readily surrendered the club fir him to use as the laboratory to hone his skills.
It’s Arsenal that will come off worse, not Arteta. He will still get another chance at another big club that’s struggling after he’s sacked at Arsenal.
Mertesacker will steer this ship back on course
* When you analyze the Saliba situation again; An Uber-talented young French defender who came from a. league that shut down in March 2020
Hmmm, I’m still very much on the fence on arteta, the deduction making is poor, I know it’s only one game but we got slapped so hard v lpool that you question everything , we were camped in our own half offering nothing for 90 mins, experiments didn’t work and were left unchanged
My worry is we have an OGS, give arteta a transformative player like Bruno yes you probably improve but are we getting more than the aim of our parts?
I’m on the Arteta train with Pete. There I said it. I like him as man and as coach. He has his flaws, that’s obvious. Lets see how it pans out.
Don’t want to harp on but saliba was the canary in the mine to asses artetas man management .
It was a huge red flag and was seeped under the carpet as being a melt for worrying about our cbs, we have rob holding as our main man, not vvd for Christ sake
Arteta is three ties away in the Europa League from completely changing the outlook.
If the FA Cup win brought him three seasons of grace regardless of performance in the EPL how many seasons grace will he get if he bags the Europa League given that the Europa League is a more significant trophy to win than the FA Cup now?
We have already heard from a poster that Arteta will be “untouchable” if he wins this seasons Europa League.
That’s not right. The EPL is the true marker.
When you watch the truly big teams play you realise how far back we have gone.
Arteta has no idea what he is doing only doing a Pep trying to buy his way out.
He has squandered 500k per week on two washed out 30 somethings and is holding back talented youth players.
Some vision that.
Wealthy older players are not hungry for success as they already have massive amounts of money and bulletproof contracts.
As is said here rookie managers and inexperienced directors are not going to take us anywhere.
Arteta will never be an elite football manager because he is a poor man manager.
Second, he has no vision of his own football. It changes with who the opposition is.
Just tactics without vision and love is soulless drag.
And I am not telling you this for free. It cost me a minute of my life.
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After 50 games we know how it pans out.
Disaster
Dissenter agree, people think we have a level headed manager.
Signs more closely align to a power hungry egotist who wants to be proven right and not condescended ahead of results.
When those beady eyes come out you know there is a guy there who hates to be crossed above all, we are burning talent and cash to prop up this guys ego. We bleat into the problem by blowing smoke up his arse further my making him manger, blood is on numerous hands
Rich……@….10,48
Your 100% correct and I’m with you on all that you said….
The best move would be sack the manager ASAP I got a feeling tonight will be Liverpool part two and a heavy defeat..
Sad sad times that we are in and diet rubbish doesn’t sit well for some of us..
Re the EL I think what matters is how we do or don’t go out
If we lose in a really good final very narrowly against utd for example I’d be very frustrated but there’s at least a conversation to be had about what we should do with arteta or not.
If we get knocked out by a team like Slavia then this season will have been a dumpster fire well and truly across ALL competitions and he should be sacked immediately
I agree 99% with what Pedro has posted, but I don’t think that it is realistic to offload all the players aged 28+. The club is certainly not going to offload all these players this summer and frankly it would be a mistake to do so. Arsenal’s last remaining chance of qualifying for Europe next season is the Europa League Cup and the chances of winning that competition is frankly not high on current form. If we don’t qualify then Arsenal’s horizon is to focus on finishing in top 5-6 in EPL next season and build a squad good enough… Read more »
Clearly if arteta wins Europe the picture completely changes, but that’s his only out card, lack of real traction in league performance plus the off field stuff mentioned has narrowed his outs considerably
If the unthinkable happens and Slavia actually knock us out he should be sacked the day after and let a caretaker handle it until the end of the season. No point delaying the inevitable
I hope it doesn’t come to that
DUIFG
“we were camped in our own half offering nothing for 90 mins”
That was basically the same story against Liverpool at home in the league last season. The difference was that Arsenal scored a couple of goals in the rare counter attacks in that match that Liverpool totally dominated.
The only difference in those matches was the end result.
If it’s only about end result without thinking how that end result came about then there will be no marked improvement.
Fresh in his first job as a manager Arteta chose to lick Raul’s arse. A Big mistake that has landed us with duds.
Dissenter Hardly any 19yr old centre half’s have played consistently in the PL in the last 30 years Throwing young players in before they’re ready, can cause more harm than good, we also had Gabriel who is inexperienced settling in As we’ve recently seen with Smith-Rowe + Saka, 12 months is a long time at that age, and players can develop very quickly I have no problem in us loaning out Saliba for a season as a finishing school before coming back My issue is the decision making, Saliba was training with us in July, we’d renewed Luiz, signed Gabriel… Read more »
I believe the players executed Arteta’s game plan against Liverpool to the letter.
His game plan was to try to stifle Liverpool, lump the ball forward a la Stoke city and just hope we don’t lose.
Unfortunately we faced Diego Jota whose entry in the game changed the game for Liverpool. If you listened to the sideline yammerings of Arteta during the game, he wasn’t angry at his players for not sticking to the game plan.
We lost the match before a ball was kicked. Arteta’s flawed approach lost us the game.
The auba situation is a non issue that has been made something massive, we gave him a deal in SEPTEMBER you should have had clear viability over him, the player has not changed, you backed an elite cf, play him as that, don’t create a furore by booting him wide to play a striker you are actively looking to shop this summer.
It’s a nonsense of an issue that been allowed to build
Pedro, an entirely logical and sensible defence of Arteta as manager/coach. The problem is that the ‘BLAME EVERYTHING ON THE MANAGER’ brigade are neither sensible nor logical. But that’s on here. Outside in the wide wide world of Arsenal supporters, I am pretty sure most find your analysis logical, sensible and plausible. I suppose that’s the penalty you pay for a site initially devoted to getting rid of a manager (Wenger.) No question Arteta is the right man for the job. As I’ve said before, he does not need defending, Anyone with half an eye can see how he has… Read more »
Ishola, agree I took basically no confidence from that prior lpool game as we basically got battered, but Sunday was worse as we created literally nothing, whereas nelson was actually shooting inside the box in that game you mentioned
Rich The a]simple answer to your remark about 19 year olds lies in Leicester city. They signed Fofana who is considered by French league insiders to be the lesser young defender at St Etienne. He adapted to the league flawlessly so spare me that tripe about 19 year olds. Our season was saved from the relegation scrapyard by 19-20 year olds. Saliba should have been kept in the club if there ever was a project. Arteta picked a toaster like Mustafi over Saliba. Mustafi was in Ozil-mourning and just trying to run down his contract. That’s why Arteta will always… Read more »
Booting saliba and bringing in a old right winger on big money to displace your record signing gave me a bad feeling before the start of the season, what I have sen since has not allayed my fears
Honestly if the team isn’t motivated for tonight’s game.
Sid I don’t think the players will down tools if we get a tonking and go out of the EL as you often see we tend to play well when the pressure is off.
I wouldn’t even start Auba tonight.
Don’t you love it when the biggest Arteta-knows-best poster around asserts that “ I doubt that Auba will fall into line,. If not, he’ll be gone this summer” Please educate us how the 31 year old striker that’s the highest wage earner is ‘gone’ in the summer when we’ve made his wages unaffordable, especially in this barren COVID football economy. The Kroenkes can’t be so memory challenged that they forget this was a player that manager was demanding a contract extension for just 8 months ago. Arteta used the soap box to push the board to approve that deal for… Read more »
Dissenter I think a season of consistent football would have benefitted him and us more, rather than a season as a bit part player, in and out of our team Smith-Rowe wasn’t quite ready last season, and was rescuing Huddersfield from relegation in July Saka didn’t start the FA Cup final, or the Semi Final in July + August, and largely sat out the last part of last season 6-12 months is a long time at that age Renewing Luiz and loaning out Saliba in order to pick up regular football, at very least would resemble some type of succession… Read more »
Rich
This are facts you have posted. I want an Arteta fan to challenge each point you made on those mistakes.
We used to play well when the pressure was off, under Wenger, because the players enjoyed his football,
Diet peps football is a joy killer
Even with a midfield of Ramsey, Xhakalson, ozil it was still fun to watch, no matter the heart in mouth moments
Diet peps football is draining, you can count on with your fingers decent games.
“If Arteta wins the Europa League he’ll be untouchable “ sounds about right.
Not sure he should be, but for many he kinda already is after only winning the FA cup, so adding another major trophy and the CL promotion would only cement his status as the generational coach.
The worst part about that scenario coming to pass………Pedro would handcuff his other arm to Arteta as well and stop blogging for awhile until he’d learn typing with his feet.
Players quitting on Emery…….proof Emery was a bum who couldn’t communicate and motivate the players.
Players quitting on Arteta……..proof they are bums and need replacing.
Wesley Fofana is 3 months older than William Saliba, he played 8 less games for St Etienne and was bought by Leicester for a similar fee this season and has been performing very well, if he was more first team ready than Saliba why did we not purchase him as we are crying out for quality at the back. Gabriel is not quality, he was lucky to score a goal in his first game but he could of easily given a way a goal and a penalty/red card in that game before that which would have made the fans see… Read more »
“No elite manager is starting William Saliba in the Premier League this season”
No but a reasonable seasoned coach in Brendan Rodgers started Fofana who was Saliba understudy and is now reaping the benefit of having a more progressive approach…
I dont think we can write arteta off if he wins the europa that constitutes a monumental achievement are first major european trophy in the modern era, however, if he doesnt win it this is the worst season in decades.
I think its europa or the sack for arteta or it at least should be.
I also think arteta conservative approach to football is best served in cup competitions. I think as long as we dont face man united we could win the europa
I think Pedro needs to accept now that there is and always has been a serious issue with the Kroenke’s and the way they run the club He’s alluding to Arteta not being protected by a Luis campos or such. Who’s fault is that? The whole thing is a total fucking mess. Neither Arteta nor Wenger should have been dealing with transfers. That’s not what they are there for. Choose your guys and let the suits deal with it. The situation with edu is a joke too. Why is there no accountability anywhere at arsenal? It’s still like being run… Read more »
Players quitting on Emery…….proof Emery was a bum who couldn’t communicate and motivate the players.
Players quitting on Arteta……..proof they are bums and need replacing.
Lol,…….
At least Emery wasn’t responsible for anything but coaching the team, and neither should Arteta be
Regardless of what happens in the EL, he won’t be sacked, a lot will depend on how many bodies we can ship out and how many we can bring in/integrate from the academy.
I don’t see KSE coughing up 2 years salary when we are deep in the red just to replace him with (name who you like) another dead horse flogger.
At least Emery wasn’t responsible for anything but coaching the team, and neither should Arteta be.
And who’s fault is that exactly ?
London gunner
Deciding a managers future on a coin toss final, really isn’t logical
Dissenter made the point earlier, we made that mistake in August by promoting Arteta to manager, based on an FA Cup final win
I think we need to change the structure around Arteta, but we’re less than 6 weeks away from the season ending, so it looks like we’ll be relying on Edu + Arteta improving their decision making this summer
Which doesn’t fill me with confidence
Bergkamp63
Im assuming either Vinai or Stan or Josh Kroenke made the decision to promote Arteta
Arteta wasn’t promoted to Manager until the 10th September ?
Rich,
Then that’s where the problems of the club lie ? As it has been for more than a decade !
We all know what’s coming will beat the racists then draw Emery who will knock us out! I’ve been watching football long enough to spot a fraud and a busted flush, and sadly Arteta is one. I will be very surprised if he’s not been removed from the job come Christmas.
Pedro
You are starting to sound like the insecure girlfriend that knows her time is up and keeps saying you’ll never find anyone better than me.
I get that you like Arteta, but he’s not the only young innovative manager in the world. You have no clue about Nagelsmann and he’s plan or what motivates him so saying he’ll never join Arsenal is just scare mongering on your part.
You’ve become an AKB.
Arteta to win the Europa League.
You heard it here first and I’m telling you for free.
The bank wont take that!
Arteta may be a good coach, but he is shit at the following:
– team selections (don’t think I need to elaborate on this)
– in-game management (games on autopilot, if if does not click, he does not know how to react)
– man management (laughable powderpuff non-negotiables, being Auba’s bitch, etc.)
any of the above three renders the manager inadequate. Simple as that.
This Arteta bashing on this blog is not representative of majority of fans that I talk to. Yes some concern but mostly people are prepared to give him the time to stabilize the club. It wasn’t the best situation that he inherited and he has actually shown progress in the last few months on and off the pitch. There is this expectation that we are on of the big clubs whereas we haven’t really been one of them for the last 10 years at least. Being 4th in the PL don’t make you top club. Winning the FA cup don’t… Read more »
Arsenal are exactly where they should be against pre-season expected points on fivethirtyeight.com. The model I saw had us at 42.6 points after 30 games compared to the 42 pts we have. It forecasts 55.7 after 38 games.
The team is performing exactly as predicted. If Arteta was improving the team then they should be ahead of the predicted points curve. By being on it, do we take it that Arteta is just average? Neither bad nor especially good. Should we expect more?
If Diet pep fails to make it to The le grove derby, he deserves to be fired
So, he showed Auba who’s boss for the Spuds game, his performances dipped afterwards. We have a young, hungry striker on the bench, who looks, walks and talks like young Lewandowski. Why not bench Auba for a couple more games then?
Why on earth do people think that 20 to 23 year olds still need nurturing.
Real Madrid have two twenty year old regulars.
We have had Anelka and Cesc both playing regularly at 19.
Duncan Edwards was playing for England at 18 so was Howard Kendle all those years ago.
Salsa could have played in cup games and easier fixtures at least he would be amongst the regular first team bonding and getting bedded in.
Pedro Remember when you wrote this It’s all so avoidable. Just don’t pick him. Emery has watched him make mistake after mistake for an entire year… he knows that he can’t stand up to pressure… he knows that he does dim things very consistently… so what does he do? He picks him against Spurs and gives him the captains armband in some sort of weird masochistic show of authority. The Masterful I think that Matteo G just announced himself on the world stage. That performance was nothing short of sensational. He was at the heart of everything. His passing was… Read more »
Azed
Naglesmann is the perfect fit , watch Leipzig play ,it’s exactly what’s needed to move forward.
Saliba dam usa word check
Arteta acts like he ‘s playing Championship Manager from 2015, with zero updates. Hence his love for geriatrics and stubbornly playing out of form players with high theoretical stats, because it does eventually click in CM.
Except players rarely, if ever, down tools im CM.
A touch of Cuban Fury there SD !
Pedro
If you are wondering why I bring up your old posts, it’s because you were so sure we had a top 4 squad and Emery was a beta manager who couldn’t communicate his ideas to the team.
Stop with the excuses for Arteta.
Remember your post about not allowing Emery to sign players because he would have signed Nzonzi?
Leipzig have different players on their books than us ?
We just have a festering pile of expensive horse shit !
Fofana was a Rodgers’ get, or at least a transfer he knew about/was involved in after having been in charge of Leicester for over a year.
Saliba was just another distraction for Arteta who needed to make his mark as quickly as possible and looked to senior players first to make that happen.
Saliba succeeding or failing at Arsenal wasn’t high on Arteta’s priority list.
I read that Slavia Prague copies Klopp’s tactics of high pressing. After they watched how our team collapsed vs the Pools, I bet their players know exactly what to do. It is really worrying. Man! I want to see us playing against Emery. I don’t want it to end it so soon.