GLORIOUS FAILURE IS AN AFFRONT TO PROGRESSING STANDARDS

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Well, what an average week.

One bad decision snowballed into multiple.

The biggest problem this week was how we approached the Europa League. We went big, played a group that had been rinsed physically by the Leeds game, we didn’t win.

Then we headed into Sunday, we were forced to rest players, and our lack of depth couldn’t handle City’s quality.

We lost 1-0. That’s not bad against the best team in Europe, the problem was less about the result, it was more about the acceptance of a lesser defeat.

‘We didn’t get spanked as bad as we usually would have’ is a 2019 way to look at games. Yesterday, after going down in under 2 minutes again, we just seemed to land on the idea that losing by one goal would be acceptable.

That’s not cool.

We played our way back into the game after Sterling of all people headed in birthday boy Mahrez’s cross early on.

We were certainly asking questions of City, especially in the last 15 minutes. We were stretching their defence, we were pinning them back, we had some moments. The hope was that we might have a go in the second half.

We didn’t.

We played with fear. The whole game was predicated on caution. Odegaard rarely took a chance by turning into space. The Norwegian was not at the races, it was a timid showing from him, but again, maybe his fitness was running low after a few games in a row after very little before. Mo Elneny’s fear of vertical passing seemed to infect everyone’s confidence. Auba, clearly knackered, offered next to nothing going forward. His fake jumps for balls in the box were embarrassing. His body language was shocking at times. He offered nothing. Is it time to accept that he can’t handle three games in a week? Is it time to accept that in hardworking games like that, you need a different forward leading the line: Lacazette or Martinelli would have offered more.

Defensively, I kept on thinking, ‘wouldn’t it be nice to have ball players.’ Rob Holding was fairly decent, but he’s not really built to be spraying it around against City. Pablo Mari was supposed to be the artful of the two, he just kept passing it Holding. Hector Bellerin was deeply frustrating all day. His partnership with Pepe was horrendous, not helped by the wingers return to normal form. His first touch was horrible. His decision making wasn’t great. Then you had Tierney, not his best day out, but maybe City was too much to ask after 5 games out.

Let’s talk about Pepe. He’s just not the full ticket, is he? His runs were poor, his touch wasn’t great, his decision making was laughable… he looks like he should be a good player, I’m just not sure we’ll ever see it. I’d prefer to see Martinelli on the left and Saka coming in on the right

We also have to be very honest about this squad. It is very nothingy without Thomas Partey. You can’t expect to beat City with Mo Elneny playing next to Xhaka. It’s not the Egyptian’s fault, he’s a sound guy, no doubt, but he’s painfully limited in games that require accurate passing with an edge of boldness.

The Arteta system needs fast passing from the base and it needs someone leading the line that is fully fit. Auba couldn’t run the line, he hid from crosses, and he looked sad. Elneny is living the dream, he’s the African Carl Jenkinson, we need to move on from him.

We also need to find a strong narrative heading into the end of the season. At the moment, there’s nothing to hold onto as a fan. We’re 1 step forward, 2 back every other month. It’s exhausting. There’s progress, but it’s not wrapped in anything. Arteta keeps telling us what we already know. He needs to give us hope. He needs to show us he can give us a run or another trophy.

Ending Leicester City’s title run next week? Yes please.

Ending Jose Mourinho’s Spurs career? Double yes.

Winning the Europa League by putting Unai ‘Good Ebening’ Emery to the sword? Don’t say sexy things you don’t mean.

This season has been shit. Give us some f*cking joy. Put a run together.

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Jamie

Olis will be around, he’ll just have created a 15th account after yet another ban from le-grove for being a reprobate.

Matt

Jesus, why are you even debating which is the better way to lose a game?

Davey

Olis, Davey is this the same Spurs that had about 5% possession and two snide goals? Yes it is.

Look at our record in the league against City especially at home, I didn’t expect to win the game but can’t handle watching attack v defence played at testimonial pace fucking embarrassing.

That is not my club

Emiratesstroller

Graham 62 I must confess that I was surprised by team selections. Selecting Holding and Mari as a centre back combination against Man City seemed illogical. Also why play Saka on left wing and Pepe on right wing? Pepe has looked better on the left when he has played recently and Saka looks very comfortable on right. As I have just posted Arsenal do need to spend some proper money in summer transfer window specifically along the spine as I have posted above. I suspect that the players Arsenal shift out this summer will generate around £90-100 million in transfer… Read more »

DUIFG

Benfica leg one coming back to bite, post the goal it stunk, we were happy with a draw, go out and win that and his life would have been so much easier now.

Bad decisions come back to bite

DigitalBob

An expected result and giving the scoreline some might say not bad considering the gulf in quality between the sides. Having said that we did not look remotely like scoring. It has been said but Auba had a bad game, Ode was anonymous and Pepe started in what we ALL know is his least effective position. The player poverty argument is valid as Elneny is Elneny, chasing shadows is what he does for a living, and while fan favourite Holding has been solid he was at fault for Sterling’s goal. No way any of City’s world class centre-backs let a… Read more »

China1

El Neny is an African (Egyptian) and I’m a European (British). What exactly is the issue?

bacaryisgod

On January 31st, Saka was rested vs. Man United as a precaution for a sore hip. Since then he’s played every minute of our last 5 games. That’s 5 games in 20 days in one of the most demanding positions on the field.

Is Arteta trying to break our one consistently excellent player this season?

China1

Bacary if he breaks saka at least he had a good excuse to reinstate Willian! Every cloud mate!!

Dream10

Poor day for the back four. Bellerin and Tierney were poor offensively. Holding and Mari were not alert on multiple occasions.

AFC Forever

Since 2017/18 all some of you have done is use the blog to moan about players and demand Managers are sacked. First Wenger, then Emery and now Arteta. That is 3 managers in 3 1/2 odd years all subjected to the same agenda. I personally believe Managers should be given time, especially when they come into a club that has been a mess and subjected to years of mismanagement from above. It’s not that I ‘love’ Arteta, as some children have claimed but because I believe in giving a Manager time to bring in his own players and implement his… Read more »

HerbsArmy

If you can’t see the mess Arsenal are in, and call it out for what it is, what’s the point, Pedro. There has been nothing exciting about supporting this club for the past ten years, since the 8-2 humiliation at OT. If you refused to tolerate Wenger why are you constantly celebrating and talking up a manager not fit to lace Wenger’s shoes? Pathetic club with far too much sycophancy and dishonesty about the performance and status of where Arsenal should be. If the club can’t be bothered, neither can I. I’m not angry at the defeat, just the apathy… Read more »

AFC Forever

Dream10

“Bad day for the back four”

Thought they did okay except for the opening spell when they got caught cold. Tierneys first 90 minutes so perhaps he started slowly because he didn’t get close to Mahrez for the cross. There is absolutely no way Sterling should be able to get between both centre halves, that was an individual error, unacceptable – I know we had the disadvantage of lack of recovery time but I wouldn’t have changed the CB pairing completely, that should always be a partnership of understanding.

David Boyle

It’s getting worse every week if we lose on Thursday It’s got to be the end

Mr Serge

We should have gone all out for Rodgers when we sacked Unaii
We never we dithered
We should also have brought their director of football he knows how to sell high and bring in talent
At Arsenal that DOF could get in an even higher level of quality player due to our pulling power

We missed out spurs will probably sack Jose and bring him in now
Arsenal need an experienced winner at the helm not s novice.
As much as I support. MA as he is here I would jump at the chance to get Leicesters management team in

Mr Serge

AFC I agree with giving managers time as well 1. When do you want Arteta sacked – Immediately or at the end of the season? I don’t he needs 3 windows at least 2. What manager do you want to bring in and why? Brendan as I explained in my last post 3. How long will you give him before demanding his head? 2 seasons minimum 4. What is your minimum expectation year 1, 2 and 3 – including trophies? Progression, squad improvement, player departures that are holding us back. 5. In his tenure how many players will he need… Read more »

Nelson

ES
“Arsenal’s 1st X1 is probably three players short of a reasonably competitive team. The three positions, which need to be beefed up in my opinion are a Right Centre Back, Central Midfielder to play alongside Partey when he gets finally match fit and a Centre Forward.”

Totally agree. But we can’t play our 1st XI every game. Our squad still has to be deeper to challenge Top4 or Champion League.

Sid

China1February 22, 2021 09:55:07
El Neny is an African (Egyptian)

Generally Egyptians Northern Africans are described as Arabic by other Africans and by themselves.
Its complicated …….

Sid

Like describing Francois Botha as African

Nelson

idk. It seems that we always sign some French kids who are lose cannon. First Guen, then Saliba and now Pepe. Pepe has no business making those claims. He should concentrate on his job.

11 losses this season, yet we’re making progress apparently, fuck me have expectations been lowered at Arsenal. Ridiculous

@Nelson

Pepe has every right to make those claims especially considering the shit he got off arteta in the early months. He’s just saying how it is

The Bard

Totally agree AFC. This site often descends into a football version of Strictly Come dancing. I’m not sure Arteta is the real deal but let’s see how we go for a couple of seasons. What we do know is keep sacking managers doesn’t work either.
For those lauding Rogers you need to remember he turned us down. Why I wonder, possibly owners who don’t care, a dysfunctional off field set up and no money. Makes sense to me. We aren’t consistent but when we are on it we look as good as any of Wengers team of his last decade.

Grant Elkin

You really need to lurn that Arteta isn’t the great hope we’ve been looking for. You keep plugging him to be some kind of God like manager, and yet he is constantly making the same mistakes again and again. Wrong team selections wrong tactics wrong, leaving it to late to bring on the subs which ate usually the wrong ones. This argument about he’s not got the right players, is starting to be a hard swallow after all he chose Willian a 250K pitch decoration, and a extra year to the walking Red card that is DL. I really do… Read more »

Nelson

“We should have gone all out for Rodgers when we sacked Unaii”

For me, we should have signed Carlo Ancelotti after Wenger. He has a sure hand and EPL experience. Now it is done and Arteta has demonstrated that he is learning. We’ll have to prepare for his mistakes.I hope KSE is willing to provide more funding for the Summer TW.

andy1886

AFCF – Minimum expectation is continual improvement. Fans aren’t as thick as certain people like to suggest, it doesn’t have to be measured in trophies, it’s about being more and more competitive against the best sides. And by competitive that doesn’t mean parking the bus and trying to nick a goal. To a degree this season is much like the 2015/16 one. Chaotic results, big teams stuttering, an opportunity that we should take advantage of. Sure City are out in front but the rest aren’t pulling up any trees. Yet we’re one of the biggest underachievers. Improvement means a recognisable… Read more »

tunnygriffboy

Win and everything is rosy and we progressing and moving forward
Lose and we need to change everything and no one is good enough
Surely there needs to middle ground.

Personally i think Arteta is the man to yake it forward. Yes he’s made mistakes but i can see progress. The club was a basket case for years and needs a lot of fixing and a bit of patience.

Sid

Or describing Sol Campbell as the European

Why should a rookie be given a job at a club as big as Arsenal , why is he allowed to learn on the job. It’s bloody ridiculous it really is.

Anonymous Commentator

What’s really concerning is that there are some superfans (superfans?) Who actually think city were trying to break us down and score for real.
They weren’t.

I would rather we force city to actually play their best game than whatever that game was.
So what if they score 5, we should be scoring 2 and making them have to take the game seriously.
That encounter was just a joke.

Emiratesstroller

AFC Forever It was not a “bad day” for our centre backs BUT the difference in quality between ours and those of Man City is significant. I do think that Gabriel has the potential to be a top class Centre Back, but we need to find someone to play alongside him of similar or better quality. Holding and Mari are “adequate” squad players but not in my book first choice starters to play against teams of calibre of Man City. Whilst I do not subscribe to the valuations made by Transfermarkt on players. It is relevant how they are rated… Read more »

Leftside

Olis, why wait till the end of the season? What will we learn between now and then? it’s there for all to see unless your purposely trying not to see it

He’s constantly changing the back four, how does that help them get consistency. Last season after losing kompany and Laporte getting injured, pep kept on changing the back four trying to find a solution, they leaked goals because of it. Now they have found the solution to their centre back problem , he sticks with the same CB pairing .

Globalgunner

The best team in Europe is Bayern Munich….does this need explaining.? Until they are dethroned they are the best. I bet they will beat City if they meet them in the CL This is because they have a forwards that always score goals and City have a sometimes Jesus and our Bête noire. Raheem fkn Sterling. Imagine Raheem Sterling never failing to score against you. OH I forget….He was coached to greatness by none other than Mikel Arteta…or so the legend says.

Spuds are 2 points in front with a game in hand, yet the spuds fans want him sacked. We are 10th and we’re being told it’s progress and to stop moaning . What next, top 15 is a trophy?

Nelson

Olis
As a fan, I wouldn’t pay a penny to watch yesterday’s shit show. That’s not entertainment.

Gbat

Just comparing the squads yesterday tells you exactly the biggest problem we have. City had a better player in just about every position and most of their subs would walk into our team. I know a lot of you think that a manager will come in with some magic coaching that’s going to turn these players world class.

Anonymous Commentator

It doesn’t matter olis. You’re gonna lose to city either way. Arteta can try to save as much face as he wants by convincing pep to play light but he’s already racked up more than enough losses for the season anyway. We didn’t even play the game because the team now believes they’re the little kids on the block and dare not upset the bully. It’s pathetic. Mental regression of the team. Belief in being able to score and genuinely threaten opposition is gone. Very long few weeks up ahead. Expect one of the upcoming results against teams who arteta… Read more »

HerbsArmy

22 years ago – 1999 – City were just getting promoted from the third tier of English football.
That’s irrefutable progress.

karim

Pedro

Man City is the best team in Europe.
The EPL is the best league in the world.
London is the best city in the whole universe.

Ok, mate.

Olis

Massive improvements….. really? Where? Just as boring as we were under Emery but with a better squad

Anonymous Commentator

It’s an absolute mess and I will not be fooled by city going light on arteta in the slightest. Those players even have history with arteta, damn right someone is opting to use the kiddy gloves. The only player to have a real threatening shot was cancello, one of the few players arteta doesn’t have history with, wonder why that is. Meanwhile the technical Wizard kdb is skying his shot. Gabby Jesus the same. Sterling. Zinchenko. Gundogan not having a shot cause he’s cursed with the Midas touch currently. Ok thanks for the film city, got the evidence we needed… Read more »

Davey

Olis- wind up merchant massive improvements?

Leftside

Olis I have looked, I also note there is a chasing pack and a few of the teams above us have games in hand. We’ve also reverted back to type in the league and have gone back to dropping points and making excuses. It doesn’t make one less a fan to call it how it is.

andy1886

@Olis, the best team in Europe are Bayern, current holders of the CL title which is a competition to find out who is the best team in Europe.

City are in great form but I can’t see Pep winning the CL anytime soon. Given that he has had the best players and the largest budget in every league he’s managed in his record in the CL is pretty poor. I expect that he’ll manage to blow it again this season too.

Emiratesstroller

Whether you agree or disagree with valuations of Transfermarkt or not they rank our Centre
Backs as follows:

Gabriel 37th
Holding 129th
Mari 203rd
Luiz 248th

A club of Arsenal’s stature should have at least two centre backs in top 50 and their reserves
in top 100 to be remotely competitive.

Saliba’s valuation since he signed for Arsenal has halved.

Consistent good performances 🤣🤣🤣🤣for real?

Leedsgunner

If we win against Benfica, but lose against Leicester, you can hear the excuses already.

If we are in the final eight in the Europa League that’s one thing… but in 32? Should we be throwing in the towel already in the League?

Arteta might have won us the FA cup but we have to admit that we are truly a mid table team.

Losses are acceptable as long as we can see improvements in the long term… I just can’t see it.

Man City went easy on us… and they still won at a canter.

Anonymous Commentator

We’ve been consistently bad sand not up for it.

Matt

Kind run in? Does such a thing exist when you’ve lost to Burnley and Wolves?

andy1886

Stroller, I wonder how highly Leicester’s Morgan and Huth were rated when they won the PL in 2016? I’d bet that Adams and Bould weren’t even considered the best CD’s in England in their prime. Good managers build a unit that is greater than the sum of it’s parts. Peronally I don’t rate Stones that highly, a llittle while back everyone though that City would get rid of him (we were even linked). Pep is a cheque book manager, we can’t afford one of those, not even a diet version.

Have we performed well?

Anonymous Commentator

Olis, do you really believe that city were even trying in that game?

Dissenter

The best team in Europe is Bayern Munich, they get to keep those bragging rights until a new champion is installed after the CL final of 2021.
City aren’t the best team in Europe, at least not officially.

Uwot?

@AFC forever.Spot on.I made the same observations a short while ago to the “ knee jerk” crowd.They,for whatever reason cannot accept the job Arteta has is a “ rebuild job” .It’s his first full season & they want minor miracles.That’s their rights,I get it.I’d love it too. But the reality is It was always going to be a rollercoaster season with the changes & squad dumping that was/ is needed.Like yourself I’ve asked the question who is this messiah Thats out there that under the same pressures & budget limitations that Arteta has that will be guaranteed to hit the… Read more »

Sid

This team mentally neuterd, the players with testicles cant fit in

Mark

Plus

“Egypt is in Africa. So what’s the issue with the pedants?””

Scotland is in England. You try calling a Scotsman English and he may have issues with it. He’s Egyptian end of. Africa is the continent.

Graham62

Olis Well for one thing I wouldn’t have played Aubameyang. I would have Lacazette starting and Pepe a free role and given Martinelli a chance. Cedric ahead of Bellerin, all day long. Wouldn’t have had GX and MO together. That’s like saying to MC “ we know you’re going to beat us, but we’re going to make it difficult” How well did that work. Yes MC are the best team around but when that’s the case go out with a team and mindset that still believe. Imo, this negative mindset is down to a manager that overthinks things. Olis you… Read more »

andy1886

Olis, you’re a charmer aren’t you? We’ll find out how good city are when they play one of the top European sides. Making that claim based purely on PL form makes no sense. Best side in the PL sure, best side in Europe? Remains to be seen.

Leedsgunner

One wonders how badly Man City would have been to us if Arteta and Pep weren’t best friends.

Pep wouldn’t have wanted his friend to be humiliated…

Dissenter

John Stones is far from the bruising physical defender yet he knocked Aubameyang on his arse twice yesterday..so effortlessly
Auba represents exactly where we are right now; excessively bloated and insipid.

Sid

Diet pep fanboys think he is the Messiah, they project it on others by asking questions like

“who is this messiah Thats out there that under the same pressures & budget limitations that Arteta has that will be guaranteed to hit the ground running.Who? Who is this messiah?”

Matt

Scotland is is England? Since when?

Graham62

If MC had gone hell for leather for the entire game, bearing in mind the team/set up Arteta put out, it would have been an embarrassment.

andy1886

I’m not convinced that City purposely took it easy on us but I’m sure subconsciously they knew they didn’t have to work at 100% to get the win and that impacted their performance.

Dissenter

It’s cringe worthy listening to Pep talking up his friend that his team just walked over so effortlessly
I don’t blame Pep for his loyalty but it’s annoying because he conveniently forgets that this is the Arsenal. We shouldn’t be a work experience center fo5 any manager to work out their shit and gain experience.
No other club gives a rookie manager so much latitude and pressure free environment.

Anonymous Commentator

But sid, literally anyone is doing better than arteta is in the same situation.
Emery wasn’t this bad, he couldn’t communicate with the players effectively due to a literal language barrier
Arteta isn’t even better than him.

David Moyes would be doing better.
Big Sam would be doing better.
Forget the Allegri’s of the world, we’re talking about getting the bare minimum out of the team, there are many names that could do that for us.
Literally anyone could be the Messiah in this situation compared to arteta.

Leedsgunner

Arsenal is along term project— we all know that.

However does that mean Arteta should be the man to pull it through. I’m not sure.

He has until the end of this season with European football next season as the main minimum.

If we don’t achieve this the usual suspects will circle our club like vultures.

ESR and Saka will be tempted away just like Cesc and Nasri were all those years ago.

Emiratesstroller

andy 1886 As I posted I don’t attach much importance to valuations, but the fact is that our centre backs apart from Gabriel are not highly rated. For your reference the following EPL clubs have Centre Backs on books ranked in top 100 Liverpool 5 Man C 4 Everton 4 Spurs 3 Man Utd 3 Chelsea 3 Brighton 3 !!! Leicester 2 Wolves 2 We have just one in top 100. Whatever you may think our track record in recruitment of decent Centre Backs has not been that great. Whilst I do think that Holding and Mari may be improving… Read more »

Leedsgunner

* is a long term project..,

Anonymous Commentator

Olis you can’t even address one simple question, instead you want to try shutting prior down with random jibes and then when you get the same given back to you you’ll ask for maturity?
Don’t be a stuperfan, there’s too many people here still firmly chained to reality for you to let yourself do that.

Batesy

As with every one else I did not think we would get anything out of this game but it was crap to lose to such a shit goal. Its stupid to say they took it easy and missed chances, but I do think if we had scored they might of gone up a gear. Even as it was they had loads of chances .but I am not sure Leno was overworked. Our midfield is what it is its not good enough without Partey although I thought Xhaka was good yesterday when we had the ball which was not that much.… Read more »

Sid

“Scotland is in England. You try calling a Scotsman English and he may have issues with it. He’s Egyptian end of. Africa is the continent.”

Serving them a taste of their own medicine
Lmfaoooooo

Emiratesstroller

It is irrelevant whether Man City are best team in Europe. They are currently the best and form team in EPL.

We are a long way down the pecking order in England let alone in Europe. If we want to compete in both in short term [1-2 years] then we need to start recruiting better quality players
than we have got now.

azed

We’re harder to beat and we aren’t a soft touch anymore. There has been improvements but were nearly getting the balance right now and our attack has improved just before Xmas.

Olis

How the fuck are we harder to beat when we’ve lost 11 games already?

Anonymous Commentator

Jeez you actually believe a real match took place.
Nothing to say here.

Cheney10

I’m not sure the debate about ‘top 100 CB’ is relevant. Statistically, we have the 3rd best defence in the league with poorer ranked CB. Defending is a whole team pursuit not just your CBs, although, having good ones does help. I think we all know that going forward has been the issue not conceding goals… I think we have won 1 game having gone behind all season.

Anonymous Commentator

Olis, you are embarrassing.
You are the one who tells the board that the results of this manager are good enough.
11 losses already in the season.
When do you actually start to witness the reality of our season?

Gbat

Emiratesstroller

We have the 5th best squad at best. Capable of excellent performances but unable to keep up that level consistently because they lack the quality.

Cheney10

AC The reality of the season is that it is not good enough for a club with our history but that is the point ‘history’. In the here and now, we don’t have the quality of player we once had, where is our Henry? Bergkamp? Viera? Gilberto? Petit? We HAD world class players, we no longer do and it will take time but more importantly, money to take us back to where we all want to be.

S Asoa

Annoyn It’s an absolute mess and I will not be fooled by city going light on arteta in the slightest. Those players even have history with arteta, damn right someone is opting to use the kiddy gloves. The only player to have a real threatening shot was cancello, one of the few players arteta doesn’t have history with, wonder why that is. “ Likely City ,like everyone else singing “ Mikel Arsehole we want you to stay “ After the wizards and arriving with the ball in front of Leno, hardly challenged, must have taken a lot of skill from… Read more »

Anonymous Commentator

it’s not about history, the squad is not the 10th best/worst squad in the league.
arteta has regressed us.
end of this season we will be 6 players short of where we need to be instead of 3 players short because arteta has sabotaged half the talent in the squad.

underrated Coq

(AFC) Superman and Lois (Olis)

Graham62

Olis

Being the expert that you are, why do you think we stayed in the game for so long?

Was it because =

A. City took their foot off the gas.
B. We played exceptionally well defensively and looked solid.
C. We brought MC down to our level.
D. MC never felt threatened and switched off a wee bit.

Yet another wannabe coach not quite getting it.

Did you actually watch the game?

The game could have been done and dusted after 10 minutes.

In fact, based on what most people saw, it was.

Graham62

Olis

You plonker, AC is being sarcastic.

JHC, what are you on?!!

Anonymous Commentator

jeeez you think we still have a season to play for?
incredible.
players are just playing for contracts now.

Graham62

If that game had gone on for another two days, the result wouldn’t have changed and neither would have Arteta’s tactics.

Cheney10

AC: A cliche I know, but ‘the league never lies’. We could argue a few places here and a few places there but what about this side makes you think we are top four? A simple task would be to ask how many of our players would get in to the teams above us and how many of theirs we would gladly take. Again, you’ll probably find we would land somewhere between 5th and 8th. Burnley, Wolves and Southampton red cards could account for that… My comment about history is linked to our expectations and current dissatisfaction. Disappointment= expectation –… Read more »

Graham62

SILO!!

Now I get it!

Captain Tierney

ET Having just 1 CB in the top 100 and still the 2/3rd best defensive record in the league shows there have been considerable improvements under Arteta. I think Saliba has the potential to become a world class CB and he should be integrated into the first team next season. Gabriel is another one who has a high ceiling. Maybe not as high as Saliba’s but he can definitely be a top 30 CB in Europe. I like Holding. He is solid, has a great mentality but severely lacks athleticism. Mari is in the same boat as well. Great options… Read more »

underrated Coq

Myth

Arsenal now harder to beat and not a soft touch

Reality

Arsenal are in 10th place in the League with 11 losses to 10 wins.

Crashed out in the primary rounds of the FA Cup

The Club’s worst statistics in decades

Graham62

Consumed by ‘grain’ and not enough brain.

Anonymous Commentator

cheney, not top 4. at the very least don’t be slipping lower than 8th. we’re going to slip further down than even that. if arteta had any sauce we would be looking nailed on for 6th and we are not. medium sauce is 8th. i was fair with my expectations, arteta has failed even those fair expectations outright. what am i supposed to do? change my expectations? i lowered them already i cannot lower them further than this because then we forget what we are actually looking to accomplish, as some here have seemingly done so. the squad is not… Read more »

Matt

Compare our squad to United’s. Are we really 15 points and 9 places worse than them?

Yet that is the reality and they have a manager who was sacked from Cardiff City in charge!!

Mark

I watched the game yesterday, I say watched , but it didn’t seem to hold my focus by the 2nd half. I didn’t expect much to happen and found myself chatting to a mate on my phone. Half watching. Substitutions left way too late to affect the game . The set up was wrong with Pepe on the right. No Martinelli?? I mean LG resident experts were telling us he’s being saved. Well having not played for a while, sure will impact how effective he can be, if he does get some minutes. ( No guarantee s tho ) Funny… Read more »

Anonymous Commentator

how does arteta get such drooling fellatio from people?=

Matt

Mark – spot on with this. ‘You Arteta fans need to ask yourself why would those fans who doubt Arteta, not want the best for the club they love. It should always be about the club not the manager. Arsenal fans like to deify our manager , it’s kinda weird !No-one is saying we have to be like Chelsea, but why our fans have to be so ‘Cult’ like I don’t know. I judge people on how they are and by what they do and how they do it.’ Although I imagine the retort will be, ‘you do not love… Read more »

Jamie

AubergOlis having a proper go of it today.

Lashing out at everyone, but thinks if he deep-throats Arteta hard enough that Pedro will let him stay this time. Donkey.

Cheney10

AC: As I said, we are splitting hairs here in that we are currently a couple of red cards away from meeting your lowered expectations. If you look at points totals for those positions you’re talking a couple of more wins here or there. In my opinion, 6th to 10th is much of a muchness and nowhere near where we all want to be. My expectations have not been lowered, I’m just a realist and believe our problems go deeper than Arteta and in reality, will take more than 14 months to fix.

Kroenkephobe

AC

Because he’s a cunning linguist perhaps?