A week off for the players? Wow. I nearly wrote ‘wowsers.’ Do you get to a certain age where twee words like that become attractive? A friend of mine said ‘aces’ the other day. I was shocked. Is language deterioration part of the ageing process?
I digress…
A week off.
Then Arsenal FC heads into another nightmare crush of fixtures that could open us up to death spiral number two of the season.
It won’t define whether he keeps his job, that seems assured, what it’ll define is how much fan capital he has going into next season.
Managers shouldn’t make decisions based on what the fans want, but they should be very aware of the role we play in their success. Jurgen Klopp is a charmer, everyone loves him, even when things are going off the rails, it’s hard to dislike him. Pochettino is another one, the deep love he commands from his players makes him hard to move on, even when results plummet. The decisions they make and the values they hold are part of the allure.
One of the worst leadership traits is being unable to admit you’ve made a mistake. Willian is becoming a lightning rod topic in the court of fan opinion. He’s shit. He doesn’t care. He has been given more than enough chances… yet he keeps playing. Arteta needs to do the right thing and move him away from the starting 11.
Fan capital is going to be hugely important as we head into next season, because fan dismay will be seen and heard beyond Twitter. That means Arteta needs to start getting his house in order now so his mistakes don’t light a fire with the fans he can’t put out.
You know what gets Arsenal fans in the mood?
Sexy football.
For me, our season keeps collapsing around senior players that were given massive new deals. If you took 4-5 players out of the mix we’d have more money, better results, and we’d likely not be asking these painful questions every 4 weeks.
The football is evolving in a direction that excites. There have been patches in the last two games where you felt like this was peak Wenger ball from back in the day. Intelligent players moving the ball at speed with attacking intent. This sort of football, played by young hungry players, is what will get fans to buy into the project next season.
Our problems are evolving in the right direction, I appreciate it isn’t fast enough for some, but let’s take it for what it is. When you have a young striker that’s not scoring, you generally want the one that’s missing lots of chances, versus the one that’s not in the game. Adebayor was like that when he joined, everyone hated him because he constantly fluffed his lines… but then it clicked and he turned into one of the best strikers in Europe for a brief moment.
That’s where this Arsenal side are at the moment. We’re moving the ball into the right areas, the attacking intent is correct, but we’re one pass and a decent shot away from it coming together nicely. If the players were shit, you’d accept that this was our lot, but they’re not. There is scope for the click to arrive.
I think there are some obvious moves that’ll help us find the click. Firstly, let’s get our best players on the pitch. If Tierney is out, bite the bullet and put Bukayo Saka in that position. He was a top 3 left-back in the country, having him there isn’t a punishment, it’ll help us open up teams because his delivery is so good.
Put Martin Odegaard in the side. We’ve only seen about 25 minutes of him but it’s clear he’s the real deal. He can open up the game from deep and he has really quality in tight spaces. We won’t have £100m to spend this summer, so convincing him to join us next year is going to be a huge win for us while we reshape our finances.
Then the big one… we have to work something out with our striking situation. Auba has been out of sorts all season, his family issues clearly haven’t helped, but we need to address it because we’ve gone from one of the most clinical sides in the league to a side that cannot hit the target for love nor money
Again, that can change very fast. Pepe isn’t going to keep skewing the ball over the bar. Odegaard had a great goal scoring record in Spain. Saka, Laca and Auba should all be doing better.
The key to all of this though is fitness… if Partey is badly damaged again, we are in trouble.
Good news for Arteta is the games coming up present a fresh chance to show he has what it takes.
Beat Leeds? That’ll feel like progress.
Beat Benfica? Feels like a proper team, it’ll count towards momentum for the first time this season.
Get anything from City? I mean, feels unlikely, but who knows.
Leicester? Burnley? Spurs? All winnable for me…
We absolutely have to get back on track this season. The green shoots need to turn into flowering trees. The vision must be crystal clear by the end of this season.
If it is, then we’re in great shape for a run at top 4 next year. If it’s not, well, I’ll be promoting the hashtag #GusHiddinkIn.
Just kidding, but something like that.
New podcast. A bit depressing. But it’s there. ENJOY.
Jamie,
I am not sure that Saliba reputation is done. It’s not like he is participating or enjoying it. He looks more like “Are you seeing this shit, I have to deal with?”.
It’s an old vid?
Maybe that’s why Arteta doesn’t want him around then 😂😂
He could have got up and walked off, could have smacked the guy in the face.
Fuck it could have joined in if he’s that way inclined.
Nope, he just sits and videos it.
Fuck outta here.
Valentin
Exactly, it’s more like ‘see what I have to go through here’
People are disgusted by the act of a public masturbation and pinning it on the lad.
Does it matter how old the video is?
I don’t think it does.
Kaz
Ever stripped off from of a group of peers before like on a sporting team shower or boarding school.
What is he to walk away from?
If arteta was ever looking for an excuse to bin saliba, I tell you what that video of the French u18’s doing a circle jerk or whatever the fuck they’re doing is all the reason he needs to bin him. I don’t understand. Why record that? Saliba was what, 16 at the time? I’m not the brightest star in the galaxy but I certainly knew not to record such questionable content and post it online, even in a private server. What exactly does saliba say in response to it? He better gave an immense PR team around him, and he… Read more »
Diss
Fuck off mate, a guy is wanking himself off next to him. Sitting right next to him!
His reaction is to film it. Not get the guy to stop, not punching him, not throwing things. He gets his phone out and films it.
What’s wrong with you?
Val –
I don’t think his reputation is done either, just a stupid move from a young player who should probably know better than to film his teammates having a wank.
Word on the street is that the saliba video was a prank by the French lads at the time. They barged in on a teammate having a facetime call with his gf and they were getting hot and bothered in private. The boys decided to troll him by walking into his room or something and staying there while he’s naked with dick in hand. Saliba decided to record it. I never ever thought this type of story would revolve around an arsenal player in my lifetime. Guendozi was binned for displaying far more professionalism than this. He also wasn’t giving… Read more »
Kaz
You’re acting like you don’t have a clue what youngsters do with cell phones these days or you’re just shocked at witnessing self pleasuring.
Maybe he should have just filmed himself jerking if and sent it to Vinai to get them to release him from his contract.
He was most likely 15 or 16 at the time because he got early call ups to the French U16 OR French U17.
By all means act like he’s raped someone or murdered little babies.
Unless Arteta defenders are suggesting he regularly whips it out in public and hence doesn’t want someone with a history of catching it on tape around, I don’t see what that video has to do with his atrocious handling of the player or the players mentality at that.
Non event for me, boys will be boys.
Nah, that’s not normal behaviour Diss.
Don’t even try to frame it like that, it’s not.
Anyway, he probably is getting sold due to his constant comments.
I doubt this video changes anyone’s view on the Saliba/Arteta argument.
If you previously thought that Arteta has handled Saliba badly and that he should have been included in the squad, I guess you will still think that.
If you thought that Arteta was right to send him on loan, the video will only serve to reinforce that opinion.
Personally, while it would never occur to me to film a mate (or anyone for that matter) bashing one out, I would still rather that than Mustafi!
The 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 are very different systems but can be changed very easily if either system isn’t working… I would say the 4-3-3 gives more freedom to the wide areas but less freedom in the centre of the pitch. The 3 in midfield are crucial as they allow the 2 full backs to push higher up the pitch as the midfield offer protection, and it allows the wide players like salah and Mane to concentrate on what they do best and not waste energy tracking back to their own area… The midfield in a 4-3-3- is all about discipline,… Read more »
Man we are so far gone as a collective culture when there are people who are ok with what was on film.
“Not get the guy to stop, not punching him, not throwing things.”
Punching and throwing things… Lol, aren’t you the heterosexual king of the universe. How about shooting him eh, that will show him.
@matt
I believe arteta was wrong to freeze saliba out for the first half of the season.
And I also believe saliba is wildly foolish and immature to have recorded that situation on film.
We are a mess of problems right now and we definitely did not need something like this emerging.
AC
Agreed, but lets not pretend that Arteta knew about this and it was a factor in him freezing him out.
I also don’t think it is the worst thing a person can do. Would I have done it, no. Is it a weird thing to do, yes. Do people do weird and stupid things when they are 16 – show me someone who hasnt!
I was going to say that’s 26 million spunked up the wall, but probably not appropriate…..so i won’t.
People that are pro Saliba are blindly defending it.
Online it is mentioned that it is Matuidi so not sure on these being 16year olds.
However, if that is Saliba’s mentality then it could relate to why Arteta felt he needed a loan this season and mature himself, as opposed to being ready for top level professional football.
No guarantee but food for thought
I doubt anyone but the boys on film knew about it before yesterday, which makes me wonder why arteta froze him out, perhaps he overheard the lad saying something wild in the dressing room but only those inside the club could know. I have no problem with a bunch of young lads pulling obscene pranks on each other in the name of camaraderie, I do however have a massive issue with saliba recording it. If I were his teammate I wouldn’t trust the lad any time he pulled out his phone in the dressing room. “What are you recording over… Read more »
Crabregas
The question should be, before this video came out, why was anyone not pro Sailba? I’ll tell you why, because Arteta wasn’t pro Saliba, and that’s all some people needed!
RH
If you’re fine with men jacking it within inches of yourself I hear there are a number of clubs that would suit your needs.
For the rest of us, it is unwelcome behaviour.
Cue every opponent using this to wind up Saliba in future matches.
And imagine the reception he will get when crowds return to the grounds.
“If you’re fine with men jacking it within inches of yourself I hear there are a number of clubs that would suit your needs” What I’m fine with is besides the point, I noticed you didn’t list walking away as one of the possible actions he could have taken, no you went for all the violent ones, how macho. “For the rest of us, it is unwelcome behaviour.” It’s actual against the law in every civilization so you are not exactly special sunshine. Guess what else is against the law, striking people except in self defense, so is his jacking… Read more »
Matt, that is easy. Some people may think that Saliba is not ready for premiership football at present and are happy for him to be out ay loan, It is really that simple yet difficult to grasp for many.
You are trying to push the Saliba vs Arteta agenda when there needn’t be. The two things are not linked, you don’t have to hate Saliba because you are pro Arteta, nor love Saliba because you hate Arteta.
I am pretty indifferent on both of them at present.
I wonder if those people who are so outraged by this have ever played team sports at any point in their lives? Weird stuff happens in those sort of environments. I stress, I have personally never been involved in this sort of shenanigans myself, but when you get a load of young alpha male types together, stuff happens that from the outside would look weird as hell. I went on a stag do years ago and there were some rugby lads on it. The shit they used to get up to is another level. They would drink each others piss… Read more »
Crabregas
I disagree completely. What have you seen of Sailba (pre video) that convinced you he wasn’t ready for the Premier League??
Crabregas
Sorry, that should have been worded differently as you stated you were indifferent.
What I should have said is, what can anyone possibly have seen of Sailba (pre video) that convinced you he wasn’t ready for the Premier League??
Weirdest thing I was involved in me and the lads snuck out while on rugby tour and got absolutely shit faced on the cheapest Mauritian booze. One of the lads ordered 2 hookers. 4 lads threw up, 2 of them in response to the others. And one of the lads tried to go skinny dipping in the ocean. We all had camera phones, no one recorded what happened. The coaches knew we snuck out too but they kept it as just our little secret so that they had us onside with their objectives for the season. I should mention we… Read more »
Matt
Some people will have watched the games at St Etienne (not many in here i am sure) but most will take snippets to suit their agenda. (For or against)
He has played 28 professional games for St Etienne in his whole career which is nothing so it wouldn’t surprise me if he isn’t ready.
My main frustration is the club not completing his loan in time. The PL and EL were already submitted by then.
What’s done is done and when he returns in June/July then we will have a better player than the one that left.
Wasn’t there a rugby team that practiced naked to promote team spirit and mental toughness?
What could be more bonding for teammates than doing a circle jerk and filming it, the boy is a natural leader, a future captain no doubt.
Crabregas When he returns there will be a lynch mob ready for him by the sounds of it. My original question was what had he said or done that had so many people claiming that he is finished at Arsenal. I still think people are overreacting to it. I’m sure it’s not one of his proudest moments and when he looks back he will know he made a mistake. I think writing his Arsenal career off on the video is way over the top! AC I fully believe the story. I also guess that mobile phones were not as prevalent… Read more »
The Saliba video is a strange one! For a start it is not very long (the video clip!) and Saliba is sitting right next to the guy bashing the bishop! He also appears to be rather nonchalant about it all – as if it is a common occurrence! Maybe it was in that particular team – who knows! At least it did not involve the abuse of women, children or animals!!!!
Today’s news, is tomorrow’s fish and chip paper Young people do stupid things This is weird though, even by male team sport, changing room standards, but not the end of the world either….. At least he wasn’t the one knocking one out in front of his teammates We invested €30 mill in an 18yr old, so we didn’t have to invest £60mill in a 23-27yr old You don’t always get an instant return on investment Saliba is 19 €30 million could still prove to be a shrewd investment We gambled on potential, let’s wait and see how that potential develops,… Read more »
Jesus
The Saliba thing was just lads Messing around. I mean it’s more embarrassing for his mate
Who hasn’t caught a mate cracking one off at some point?
Doesn’t make him a poor footballer. This isn’t why he’s been omitted
I’d be more worried about his folks. That shit doesn’t fly in devout families
RH
You’re a twat.
Go read my first comments. Walking away is one of the first things I put.
Not even reading the rest of your diatribe after that omission.
Arteta may turn out to be a great coach, better than Pep and Klopp but this is what all we le-grovers are shouting about. William Saliba: “He [Arteta] judged me on two and a half matches. I would have liked for him to play me more. But he told me I wasn’t ready. I was waiting for him to give me a chance, but football is like that. I am happy now. I want to play for Nice.” You can’t judge a youngster in 3 matches and expect them to be world class. You are not sacrificing such players for… Read more »
I’m with RH on this one
If your mate does something like that then you take the opportunity to laugh at him and wind him up. It really is small potatoes. Funny how many puritanical Karen’s there are in the world.
Saliba did nothing wrong. Nothing immoral. He hasn’t hurt anyone.
Instead of going Gung-ho and losing their minds, Arsenal fans should be protecting Saliba and not ridiculing him
Reportedly the video is 3 years old.
Dont tell me you’ve not done things in your teens that you still regret.
Southampton has lost five in a row conceding 18 in the process, but if they win their game in hand they’ll be 11th and above Arsenal in the table. Let that sink in.
Anyone got a link to the Saliba video………..,or address to one of those clubs Kaz was talking about.
I think I might need it.
So going by some of these comments on here, a naked guy beating himself off in a room full of clothed guys going about their job is “the new norm” and if you don’t agree you haven’t or don’t understand sports?
If so then hopefully we are really in the last days as i’d hate to see the next chapter in the book of life.
In regards to his career. This wouldn’t/shouldn’t end his career with us. but it’s adding to the accumulation of negativity coming from him since he left on loan.
You can’t judge a youngster in 3 matches and expect them to be world class. You are not sacrificing such players for a champions league trophy!!
Mb
Look at Pepe, holding and Tierney as prime examples in the current side
Jack grealish over at Villa took a while to really get going too
Young players need an arm around the shoulder and some confidence through game time
I find it insulting when Arsenal fans keep talking about trusting Arteta like all his decisions have been faultless He is the man that decided against selling AMN and never played him now he is on loan to West brom He is the man that doubled Willians salary and gave him a three year deal at 32 He is the man that vetoed the purchase of the worst goal keeper in France, who he deemed ready to play for us but Saliba wasn’t, then went ahead to loan another in January He is the man that gave Auba a three… Read more »
Tom
I’ve got a link
But are you 18?
guys, no sharing of that link…
RH, no one, and I mean no one, has said Arteta is faultless.
RH, no one, and I mean no one, has said Arteta is faultless.” So what exactly is the trust Arteta thing based on? I see you passing off being 9 points behind Liverpool as progress, I hope you were joking, but you failed to mention Liverpool are 20+ points worse off than they were last season. You have even reduced what the bar for sensational football is, any pass that finds a team mate is now sensational, sensational football that rarely tests opposing goal Keepers. I don’t think you watch enough football from across Europe, if you do you will… Read more »
The saliba video can be found in twitter.
An account by the name of “aftv out of context” has it posted.
Saliba is also trending on Twitter so yeah, it will be pretty easy to find.
Beat Leeds? That’ll feel like progress.
No just 3 points.
Progress is going on like a 4-5 game unbeaten run
Rich, is the video even real?
Who could tell with today’s technology.
I mean, the PL table lies and it’s not real, apparently.
“You can’t judge a youngster in 3 matches and expect them to be world class. You are not sacrificing such players for a champions league trophy!!”
Seems like he was judged BEFORE those three games as according to Saliba himself Arteta tried to recall him in the Jan 2020 window but he refused, preferring to see out his loan with St Etienne.
If this is true the serious questions have to be asked about Arteta’s reasoning that Saliba was not ready to play and needed a “transitional year” away due to his age and inexperience.
Winthorpe
Exactly. Everyone knows Arsenal is under construction, you play the kids to confidence, prepare them for the next season or the next after.
I can manage to take a loss with Saliba, Balogun, Azeez in the team than Willian, Luiz and Laca.
Lacca’s fine to play until the end of the season.
Arteta needs to put a 7 game run together. After that I’ll be willing to look at the state of our season, but right now the conclusion has to be that he’s moved us backwards. If the plan, and I would need the board or vinai to chime in on it, is that we will have 1/2/3 years of hard rebuilding before we can start looking to the top again then no problem. but I would really need someone higher up to say so officially that we are in this for the long haul and the rebuild won’t be halted… Read more »
Tom
I like South Parks take
Earth is an intergalactic reality TV show
I think the producers are aiming for a combination of black comedy + satire…..
Tom are you really looking for a 16 year old boy having a wank?
Each to their own I suppose.
RH, it’s fine for you to just say you don’t like Arteta and that be that. Pretending to be offended by something that doesn’t exist in the conversation doesn’t add weight to your argument.
OlisFebruary 9, 2021 15:27:01
Tom are you really looking for a 16 year old boy having a wank? Each to their own I suppose.
Yeah I second this
No thanks
“For me, our season keeps collapsing around senior players that were given massive new deals.” This is absolutely spot on; when I think about the top United teams they were always augmented with top senior players; I assume this is what MA is going for but the problem is our senior players are ex Chelsea pensioners who don’t give a fuck and not the Pallister’s and Bruce’s of the world. Even our own recent history is stocked with these players in Adams, Keown, Bould, Parlour; even Bergkamp to some degree. I think these players are incredibly important, but ours are… Read more »
“It’s fine for you to just say you don’t like Arteta and that be that. ”
I don’t dislike people I don’t know personally, I don’t like Arteta’s brand of football and the way he took advantage of our structure to seize power for himself, making himself unsackable, but I don’t dislike him as a person so again no hit there
“Pretending to be offended by something that doesn’t exist in the conversation doesn’t add weight to your argument.”
What doesn’t exist? You writing off the season in January or lowering the bar on what constitute sensation football and progress?
MbFebruary @ 15:06:34
I can manage to take a loss with Saliba, Balogun, Azeez in the team than Willian, Luiz and Laca.”
Can you tho? A lot of people say this, but I imagine the reality is different when you’re on the wrong end of a 0-5 at home to Spurs …
Olis, Winthorpe,
Yes , that’s what I’m into and need a football blog to deliver my fix.
Mind your own business fellas……….or better yet look up sarcasm.
I think its practice for smacking crap teamates with the longstuff Viera style.
Football can change very quickly
Odegaard looks like a quality player
Smith-Rowe looks promising
Partey will add something if we keep him fit
We’re a much better team with Tierney
Saka’s form doesn’t look like a purple patch, I think he’s potentially world class
I’m much more positive now, than I was in December
45 points to play for….
We’re one of a handful of clubs with aspirations of winning the Europa League
Still plenty to play for, even if we have made things difficult for ourselves
‘I find it insulting when Arsenal fans keep talking about trusting Arteta like all his decisions have been faultless’
You made this up to create drama around your locked in views on the manager.
It’s really hard to trust your taste in football if I’m honest. You defended Emery like you were the last Spartan in the Battle of Thermopylae. The new brand of football emerging genuinely exciting, to turn your nose up at it as it shapes up is embarrassing, but not surprising.
Pedro
Quick question.
What tangible proof do you have that Arteta is such a great coach?
What was it about him that made you think, Wow! This is the guy I want managing my club?
Just curious.
Can you please answer in layman’s terms.
Incredible to think that some feel that the upturn in our playing style is all down to Arteta and not a change in our circumstances.
Graham Wenger, Poch and Pep all wanted him in their set up. What does that say about his coaching ability?
RH it seems you are bitter about Mikel’s strong full head of hair.
Was it all down to the fact that he was ex-Arsenal, worked under Pep and speaks a few languages?
What about his looks?
Did that sway you?
French football association set to launch an investigation into the video Saliba took on his phone.
#wankgate
Graham no one has said its all down to Arteta. It’s a combination of circumstances, players and the manager as the reason for the upturn in our playing style.
It may have taken time for the managers ideas to take a hold and the for the players to put it into practice. The circumstances have enabled him to use players early than planned.
You can give credit when due sometimes.
Let it go old timer. You’re another that’s dripping in bitterness. It’s not a good look Graham.
I don’t buy into all the hype.
I need proof of his coaching prowess.
I’m convinced if he wasn’t ex-Arsenal, some folk on here wouldn’t have been so attracted to him.
“You made this up to create drama around your locked in views on the manager.” I made up the fact arsenal fans lap up every decision Arteta makes like he has an antecedent history of always getting it right? No I didn’t “You defended Emery like you were the last Spartan in the Battle of Thermopylae” If by defended Emery you mean I kept pointing out our squad was nowhere near a top four squad while you told everyone that we were nailed on top four material then yes I own up to that. Not surprising you drag Emery into… Read more »
Graham62 I’m not sure about Arteta, I’m willing to give him another 12 months though Most things in life are trial and error, I don’t care if he stumbled upon a system Or if we got lucky with Odegaard becoming available I can see some structure taking place, it’s individual errors, and lack of composure that’s hurting us PL football is a game of fine margins We’ve got average defenders, but we’re working better as a team defensively We went from one of the worst in the league for set-pieces conceded last season, to the best this season We’re beginning… Read more »
JamieFebruary 9, 2021 16:08:50
French football association set to launch an investigation into the video Saliba took on his phone.#wankgate
Who cares man? He’s a kid. Fucking around with his pals. It wasn’t him with his lad out. I really don’t see the big deal
Olis
Who are you exactly?
This is a blog where Arsenal supporters voice opinions.
Just accept differing opinions…. young man.
Just like Pedro, you have no tangible proof that Arteta is a fantastic coach.
Imo, any coach that persists with players like Bellerin, Willian, Luiz, GX, and even Leno, is not a great coach.
Rich we have scored 27 league goals all season If we don’t win the Europa league we will not be in Europe next season Odegaard has done nothing yet in am Arsenal shirt and is a six month loan deal Individual errors are not peculiar to Arsenal players ditto lack of composure, It hurts every team in the world, its not an Arteta plague We look more comfortable with the ball because teams have worked out letting us have the ball is actually a good thing. I don’t see this steps to greatness most of you are pulling out of… Read more »
“RH it seems you are bitter about Mikel’s strong full head of hair.”
No i am not, have any other thing to suggest that is close to reasonable?
No?
Thought so too
Hope I’m wrong. but at the moment I’m worried Arteta is gonna end up as a horrible failure @ Arsenal.
We have no style of play and the only thing we are consistent with are:
Indiscipline
Mental errors
It’s Pathetic!
Where is the new culture Arteta was supposed to introduce
to the club? So far it’s been Shiite !!!
Just accept differing opinions…. young man.Just like Pedro, you have no tangible proof that Arteta is a fantastic coach. Graham I’d say winning the FA cup and community shield within his first 6 months as a coach beating Liverpool (twice) city chelsea and United along the way with £0 spent with a totally demoralised squad is tangible evidence I’d say cultivating the best defensive record outside of Manchester City with Mustafi and Luiz featuring regularly alongside £10m pair Mari and holding after two seasons plus non existent defensive coaching in just 12 months is quite extraordinary. The man has made… Read more »
eceding HairlineFebruary 9, 2021 16:35:33
Rich we have scored 27 league goals all season
Yeeees
Emery giving away all of our attacking mids/creative players and attempting to use Suarez and Ceballos as replacements didn’t contribute at all did it?
“Emery giving away all of our attacking mids/creative players and attempting to use Suarez and Ceballos as replacements didn’t contribute at all did it?”
Yes we had them all tied down to long term deals and he gave them away, didn’t know that, thanks for the info.
Indiscipline
Mental errorsIt’s Pathetic!
Where is the new culture Arteta was supposed to introduce
to the club? So far it’s been Shiite !!!
Discipline? Mental toughness?
Ah like emery at anfield? 5-1
Or emery in the Europa final vs chelsea 4-1
Emery losing 3-0 to Leicester and wolves while we were 3rd and then throwing the palace game from a winning position only to lose 3-2
That sort of mental fortitude emery breathed into the squad? Quality wasn’t it
Can we stop bringing up Emery?
If it was wrong for Emery to stay at the club then it most definitely is wrong for arteta to stay at the club.
Arteta is literally worse on every metric.
Don’t bring up Emery if it is still not recognised that arteta is just outright worse than him at the job.
I said Emery had to go after he played a 5-5-0 against Leicester.
Arteta has to go cause not only are his tactics questionable but his man management is suspect.
Yes we had them all tied down to long term deals and he gave them away, didn’t know that, thanks for the info.
Yes. He had Mkhitaryan Iwobi and ozil on long term deals. The most damning part of my accusation is that his replacements were Suarez and Ceballos
Laughable
“I’d say cultivating the best defensive record outside of Manchester City with Mustafi and Luiz featuring regularly alongside £10m pair Mari and holding after two seasons plus non existent defensive coaching in just 12 months is quite extraordinary.“
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Toni Pulis’ Stoke had the best defensive record in the Championship in 2006 and finished eighth.
Toni Pulis’ Stoke had the best defensive record in the Championship in 2006 and finished eighth.
Tom
Fascinating. We are talking about the premier league though pal. Try to pay attention
Tony Pulis wasn’t in his first 6 months as a manager at any team ever though was he? And he hadn’t won two trophies in that time had he? And he hadn’t beaten the best teams in the country within that 6 month period had he?
Context old boy. Try to keep up
Winthorpe
Point was Arteta wasn’t hired to improve one single aspect of Arsenal play was he, and even Pulis could’ve done that, apparently.
I’m sure one way that interview didn’t go was never mind the league position or CL money , we just want you to be solid on defense.
Being “solid” on defense didn’t get us anything but some out of form strikers.
And that solid is really a soft solid seeing as it all went tits up when Martinez got sold.
So really was it Martinez mopping up defensive mistakes or was the defense actually “solid”?
Not a fan of Emery but I thought by now everyone knew he wasn’t in charge of player recruitment.
That’s why I was for Arteta getting his promotion and a bigger say in personnel decisions.
Not exactly a great success so far though.
Graham so do you think Wenger, Poch and Pep wanted him as a coach because he was good looking?
Why do you think they wanted him to coach at their club?
Who am I? A person countering an old timers ramblings that are drenched in bitterness.
“Can we stop bringing up Emery?”
That would only leave us with Arteta’s incompetence, can’t have that
“Yes. He had Mkhitaryan Iwobi and ozil on long term deals. The most damning part of my accusation is that his replacements were Suarez and Ceballos”
Everything you wrote there is wrong, sorry to interrupt your trolling
Everybody focus on the great defensive records, but it is mostly due to us repeatedly losing games by the odd goal. Most team knows that once we fell behind under Arteta we will not come back. They also know that we are toothless in possession. So they don’t press their advantage further. They let us have the ball. Like the kid in Saliba video, play with yourself, nobody cares. We are the fat kid that even the bully does not see the point of hitting after the first punch. Leeds has conceded more goals than us and lost the same… Read more »