Finally, Arsenal has managed to move Mesut Özil out of the club to Fenerbache. One of the most productive and creative players to have worn an Arsenal shirt has said goodbye after his disastrous back-9 at Arsenal climaxed with him being exited from the squad.
I don’t need to go over this again.
The player hasn’t lost out on any money.
Arsenal don’t have to deal with the smoke of his PR wafting through every pre and post-match presser.
I see a lot of his weirdo fans are deactivating their accounts, so we don’t have to deal with the grim toxicity they added to the Arsenal community.
This deal works for everyone.
He gave us some great moments, he won us some trophies, he gave us hope of better days for a little bit. I hope he finds peace in his new role. Good luck, Mesut, we wish you all the best.
Heading the other way is Martin Ødegaard. The Norwegian creative midfielder looked like he was heading to Real Sociedad, but a phone call from used-car-salesman-Arteta seems to have worked the magic. I know people huff at this, but I told you from the start, when Mikel talks football, people pay attention. He has plenty of sauce when it comes to setting the tone for an exciting vision. Now he’s starting to bring in players that can help him deliver on it.
There’s a concern that the player might not adapt. Totally fair. Dennis Suarez arrived and played about 12 minutes. Baptista was totally shite. Dani Ceballos started well and faded. Hold on a minute, why are we signing players from La Liga on short term deals?
Samuel Johnson once wrote, ‘depend upon it, sir, when a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully.’ In footballing terms, a rejection from Real Madrid is potentially devastating. His career needs to be in the ascension. He has to prove himself. Arsenal presents a unique opportunity he’s smart to take. The bar is very low for creativity, the club is huge, and the only way is up based on the news. The game time he’s been promised and the path to a prestigious move will certainly focus his mind. He’s coming here with a noose around his career, let’s see what he can do.
The big question is going to focus on where he plays. Emile Smith Rowe has been doing an excellent job in that #10 position. It’d be pretty brutal to drop him for someone that’d have to adapt to the league. So are we looking at positions where we’ve been weak this season?
Is there a chance that his range of passing and better mobility could see him slip alongside Thomas Partey? He is certainly more than capable of playing in that role. His passing would be faster than Xhaka’s and it’s clear he has more mobility. The strength of Partey defensively means we can afford the luxury of a more attack-minded player next to him in the double pivot.
He could quite simply be used to rotate with Emile Smith Rowe, but honestly, are we really going to stunt the growth of one of our own to accommodate someone who might leave in a few months? I mean, Arteta has a weird thing with the kids, so who knows.
He might also find himself on the right side of midfield. Saka has been electric there of late but is more than capable of camping out on the left of midfield and forming a partnership with Kieran Tierney. This would all be a little problematic for Gabriel Martinelli, but look, at least we’d have electric options available to us.
I think we should all be excited. Why? Well, if you look at this season with a hopeful lens, and you believe that Mikel Arteta is capable of learning, then the harshest of lessons have already played out.
- Certain senior players are bums and cannot be trusted
- Youth at 100% trumps experience at 70%
- Mobility and pace beats craft and Champions League games
- Shit performance is part of the non-negotiables
- There’s a right way to lose, and it’s not playing with peak Tony Pulis principles
The second half of the season won’t see as many red cards. It hopefully won’t see as many awful injuries. It won’t have senior players trying to down the manager. It won’t be bereft of shots (up to 10th!). The football won’t be boring.
Where we’ll finish is going to be very dependent on what happens with the next two games. Beat Southampton and United, maybe we can have an interesting conversation. We’d be 10 points off United who are top and we’d be very much in the mixer for the top 4. I don’t think we have enough this season, but we’d be within spitting distance by February, which I said was always the target for the club. From there, it’d be a cup run, which suits our best players.
One to ponder. See you in the comments.
Can’t stand Chelsea.. really hope they don’t get top 4
‘Wouldn’t it be great if all players got the same basic salaries.’
Who the fuck in his right mind will pay the same salary to Xhaka and Partey?
Or Bellerin and Tierney?
For me shame Lamps been sacked, not on a personal level he’s been in that dressing room to see the harsh managerial merry-go-round and fully knew it was coming. That job is poison.
Results only Roman knows Tuchel has solid short term game, a couple Germans in need could see them back in top four battle pretty quickly.
Can’t complain about Chelsea having unlimited source when we chose so shut out a 28 million GBP transfer fee defender for misfit like Mustafi. Arteta even tried to extend his contract. We chose to put a 72 million transfer fee winger behind a 32 year old semi-retired Chelsea import who came on a lavish wage for 3 seasons. We had 350k weekly wages midfielders frozen out and were declining opportunities to sell players We haven’t exactly been trying to survive on moldy bread. We too have been profligate in our own ways. Chelsea have an unlimited budget and Arsenal seem… Read more »
alexanderhenry
You’re right.
If Arsenal had a proper owner who was emotionally invested in the club and didn’t mess about with what is expected…Arteta would be gone by now. Add Edu to that mix as well.
It’s because Arsenal is just a UK certificate of deposit for the Kroenke’s that we have our meek structure in place.
Lampard sacked but Artetas job is completely safe. Joke club.
Dissenter kind of disingenous to blame Pepe’s failures on Willian.
Sal
Nope
When you have an expensive signing who’s low on confidence and you knock them lower down the pecking order with a semi -retired Chelsea import …you have to expect it wouldn’t help.
Arteta played Willian relentlessly until got exposed to covid, even when he was utter turd.
Do you think he’s given Pepe the same blank check he gave Willian?
I used to say sell Pepe but now [like Useroz wrote] loan him back to a Ligue un club to restore some of his value.
‘Wouldn’t it be great if all players got the same basic salaries.You know, something in the region of £10-£20k a week.max.’
Messi on 20k a week lol, I’m sure he’d be pleased with that alright. Seems fair considering the billions in the game that the suits are paid even more after all and not the actual talent.
Dissenter “Do you think he’s given Pepe the same blank check he gave Willian?” Willian’s clearly been a disaster, but let’s not act as if he wasn’t brought in to remedy Pepe’s inability’s to perform up to required level hence starting ahead out of gate. Never payed any sort of dividend for Arteta whose gotten that one horribly wrong barring his opening salve vs Fulham. Thankfully neither have to be first choice, have to think with Ødegaard option if that works out they’ve just been pushed further down, which i’m 100% backing. I’d be all for loaning Pepe back to… Read more »
-salvo
I can’t even understand this level of disdain for football agents If I had elite footballing talent in my stable. I would generate artificial demand to get the best deal for my player. I would plant stories everywhere to get ahead of football clubs who have more resources than agents. It’s a David vs Goliath situation in many cases. Not every agent is a super agent. It’s no different from anyone that makes money off commissions; you eat what you kill. How do you loathe agents so much you’re willing to propose paying everyone the same just to cut them… Read more »
I really do think that we will struggle to even recoup 30m for Pepe considering Covid’s effect on transfer fees going down and how bad he has been here. For 30m that rules out basically every French club barring PSG, Lille won’t buy him back and Lyon are pretty set on forwards. He’s nowhere near PSG quality so that’s a dead end. Can’t see what Spanish club could [A] afford him and [B] want him if they could. Same goes for Serie A clubs. Really do think that we’re either stuck with him or will sell him at a fraction… Read more »
Sal I would be for the Odegaard signing if there was a chance to buy or if it was a 1.5 year loan. He’s the type of player that needs to grow into team to affect it – 5 months is too short for any real impact. The 5 month duration just makes it meh. It’s like we are a shop window for Real Madrid. The player will be rehabbed back to his best on our dime and will be able to go back to them at full capacity in the summer. It just feels like we are getting the… Read more »
Guys laughing at the equal basic structure are ignoring the key factor being proposed… performance based pay.. so you have it backwards the top performers like Messi would not take home £20k a week as they would be given BONUSES based on performance. Have a shit day get paid less bonus.
Like how Elon Musk is richest man in the world… based on performance and bonuses paid due to said performance, he doesn’t get paid billions just to show up.
Capitalism trumps Socialism every day of the week.
Having everyone earning the same means nobody works hard because there is no incentive. Quality falls and everything goes tits up.
Rewatching Jerry Maguire couple of weeks ago, I came up to the conclusion that maybe agents do deserve their money. It must be extremely stressful working with egotistic, not very down to earth, manchildren. I know it’s not the popular opinion on the matter, but I can’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. I believe all of the big agents have a shit ton of work on a daily basis, no weekends, no offdays on the regular.
Youngsters and key players playing every game
Fans: They need rest or they will get burned out.
Manager rests the key players and the youngsters, we lose the game.
Fans: Should have played a full strength starting lineup. Fraud. Out.
Cya Fat Frank… lasted 2 weeks longer then I thought. Bottom line is Roman.. is ruthless.. and Kroenke is not. If Stan wanted to sack the manager he would.. nothing to do with lack of funds. The dude has a net worth of 10 billion dollars. Even with the Rams his beloved he hung on to Jeff Fisher about 3 years too long.. similar to Wenger. Anyhow.. I like the loan move for Ode.. see if it pans out. I don’t think we will see much of Ode and ESR at the same time.. unless it’s a late game move.… Read more »
Wenger eagle
If Pepe has a season in ligue un close to the one he had before we picked him up, we can easily get 40-50 million for him.
Max
You don’t see how a veteran 33 year old Messi that has won Barcelona 9 La Liga titles, 4 Champions Leagues not to mention a host of Cups and has largely carried them season after season averaging 50 odd goals would be insulted getting the same salary as 17 year old Pedri and still have to be on the grind weekly to ensure he’s paid what he’s worth? Means that everything he has done to date for Barcelona is essentially irrelevant when it comes to earning, such a loopy idea to put forward.
“Really do think that we’re either stuck with him or will sell him at a fraction of what we spent. Pound for pound he may be our worst ever signing.” – I’m beginning to agree, he’s had nearly 50 matches for us and hasn’t really done much to stand out for £70mil (albeit in instalments)
what would you say his best match was? a europa league match last season where he scored two?
You must be on that good shit Dissenter. We won’t even recoup half of what we paid for him, mark my words.
What French club could afford a 45 million fee? Even PSG aren’t spending that kind of dough anymore.
He’s more Max Gradel than Eden Hazard unfortunately.
Yes, just as Odegaard starts to show some form the season will finish. What’s the point of six months.
Eagle Agree as it stands this upcoming summer we’ve got three years on Pepe’s deal at £140 per week from what i’ve read. Nobody is taking that on based on what he’s offered. This club’s become elite at burning money, Mustafi deal apparently being prepped for termination, a £35m CB signing. But Pepe’s financials are Titanic in comparison. Dissenter Wrote on here couple days ago hoped it was 18 months regarding the loan but it is what it is, i’m not writing him off based on it being short term. I like attacking football way too much for that and… Read more »
Everyone being paid the same salary is not the same thing as a salary cap.
Lots of wires being crossed here.
Pass the flask Dissenter, could use a nip.
I think the best we could hope for in a Pepe move.. would be to throw him in as a make weight in a transfer deal. Kind of like Man U did with us and Miki.
Wenger Eagle, Sal
Penalties aside, Pepe had a monster season in ligue un in 2018-2019
If we find the right club and he replicates those numbers then all bets are off
That said, I don’t think he has that desire or drive.
Black Snake
Probably his game vs United at home in the league where he scored and was MOTM. About this time last year IIRC.
But for a 72m signing to have literally less than a handful of memorable performances [including Europa League cannon-fodder] in 60+ games for the club really is a shocking return.
I mean Gervinho gave us that for 12m.
“I mean Gervinho gave us that for 12m.”
Not even touching on his next level hair… definition of commitment.
Jamie, argument of Duflo and Banerjee in the article you shared is not an argument for equal pay. Besides they are talking about a completely different economic group.
Dissenter
Take away his penalties and he scored 13 with 11 assists in his ‘monster’ season.
Gervinho the season before we bought him for Lille score 15 and assisted 9 in Ligue 1. That was without penalties.
I was more impressed with the size of his forehead.
Pepe is shit, Chamakh level shit. Gervinho didn’t have a brain and was hurried in his play but his dribbling ability was much better and he actually made an impact in many games. Besides he never went missing in games, always tried his best.
Sal
A fivehead that Riri can only aspire to.
TR7 –
The Op-Ed is essentially a synopsis of the book, so the one line about salary caps doesn’t do the body of their work justice.
There’s plenty in the book to get stuck into. Salary caps limiting performance is a myth.
Wenger eagle
But Gervinho was paying with Eden Hazard who created lots of space for him. It was a tag team at Lille
btw, Gervinho was a very good player who never got a proper chance under Wenger.
How about Pepe in a direct swap with Aouar? Maybe we throw 10 mil on the top.
Depay is leaving in the summer, Bertrand Traore had also joined Villa, so they might need an attacking reinforcement or two.
Even if the clubs do agree to a deal the salary is going to be a problem because nobody is paying 180k a week to Pepe in Ligue 1.
Irrespective of how good we think he has been for us, being about about to let a 28 year old international centre back leave on a free having paid 35M for him 3 1/2 years ago is yet another Arsenal transfer disaster. The one thing I would say positive about Mustafi is he sure knows how to head a ball with power which is more than most of our current squad can do.
Jamie
Actually I have read two books authored by Duflo and Banerjee, was curious to understand their outlook after they won the Nobel. I don’t quite agree with their outlook in general but got to give it them that their thoughts are original and efforts very honest.
Clearly Arteta’s plan is to play ESR and the norseman in midfield together, alongside Partey and one other. Who the other will be depends on whether he gets a high enough bid for Xhaka to bring in someone better.
@Jamie, you are trying to explain astrophysics to plumbing class dropouts, best of luck!
Raul effed up big time with that Pepe deal.
We all were delirious aftet the deal, Raul got mobbed by gooners afterwards too.
The lonely voice in the wilderness [that I can remember] was Valentin. He is the only one wo said the deal was crap and the player wasn’t that good…and boy did he get dog abuse here.
Here’s to Valentin 🥂
Dissenter
Pepe had talent around him too in Bamba, Rafael Leao and Ikone. They had an excellent team and even after he was sold went on to finish in 4th. They lead the league this season.
Point being, nobody will pay us that kind of money to take Pepe especially considering what he’s earning. Another Ozil/Kola/Xhaka situation on our hands here.
Gervhinos dribbling ability was incredibly good imo. He moved like a demon.
If only If only If only he had finishing on lock. He would of been a phenomenal player.
The disparity between those 2 abilities of his was staggering though.
Never seen anything like it. Was like night and day.
Would get into fantastic positions but hit the keeper in a clear 1v1.
Frustrating player
“””A fivehead that Riri can only aspire to.”””
LOOOOOOOOOOL
Lille have gotten better without Pepe.
Dissenter
I wasn’t a Pepe fan either, neither was Champagne Charlie who much preferred Zaha.
TR7 didn’t like him from the get-go too.
MANY towed the Zaha line, once Pepe was on board all we could do was hope.
“A fivehead that Riri can only aspire to.”
loooool
Yes, Gervinho would run past 4 to 5 players and get in to the box only to not even strike the ball properly let alone score.
Okay
Okay, add yourself, CC and TR7 to the list. Emery too didn’t want him.
Point being: the vast majority of us were ecstatic with Marko leading the line.
I wish we got Zaha
Gervinho would have been a great sensation at Newcastle, just like Allan Saint-Maximin.
I personally hope that, that ship of Zaha has not full sailed of.
Im not a fan of Nelson or Pepe at present
Has anyone seen much of Romain Faivre? Seems to be having a decent season and as well as being pretty versatile.
Yep, Gervinho had better skillz then Pepe.. He just couldn’t hit the broadside of a barn with a shot for Arsenal. And he didn’t fit into our slower possession based Tiki Taki build up play at that time. Rudi Garcia.. got the best out of him… Arsene didn’t.
Anyhow.. I was excited by Pepe signing until I saw how painfully one footed he was. Have to think he wasn’t scouted at all. And for that kind of money… unreal.
Nelson is shite, hate to say it but he is. Out of depth at this level.
It takes an ESR/Saka to really open up your eyes as to how far off the likes of Nelson and Willock really are.
Saliba performs very well now in League 1. If Arsenal offers Pepe on loan to League 1, there will be managers there who know how to get the best out of him. Pepe’s value will increase.
Willock for me is a quintessential nothing player, aghast that he has got so many opportunities at the cost of other youth players.
TR7 – Ah, nice. Yeah, I like them too. A final note on salary caps because the original comment I responded to was probably flippant to begin with, but I like this part from the book I mentioned: “There is plenty of opposition to the salary cap in the United States. A Forbes article described it as “Un-American,” arguing that “based on the capitalist system, spending money on employees (and that’s what athletes are in professional sports) should be based on performance and not encumbered by system.” Players naturally hate it, resent it as deeply unfair, and have staged multiple… Read more »
Regarding Pepe/Zaha, was all for going premier league experienced at time and didn’t think we’d shell the money for Pepe, was SHOCKED we did. Excited by the potential which lasted about 90min of EPL time.
Such a limited player, real argument can be made that Gervinho’s higher quality which really says everything.
PSG proposes Draxler – Guendouzi Swap Deal.
Would much rather prefer the current system over a salary cap system.
Dont want to see Messi, Ronaldo and Pepe earning the same amount of €€€.
Jamie
Not all the athletes have a genuine desire to succeed though. A Rafa Nadal would probably still give his best all the time irrespective of the prize money on offer but not a Marat Safin or a Krygios. An equal pay will basically lead to just a few people battling it out while the rest will loose all the drive to excel. If such a system was in place in real economies, overall output measured by GDP would go down substantially as a vast majority of the population wouldn’t have any desire to succeed or excel.
Nelson
“PSG proposes Draxler – Guendouzi Swap Deal.”
We get the short end of the stick- they offload a hig wage earning player who was happy to enjoy the luxuries of Paris on their bench for a developing players on low wages.
We should sell Guendouzi in the summer and rebuild on our own terms. .
CT – Maybe folk are bored with the salary cap chat, but I like it so fuck it I’ll keep it rolling. In the States, the salary cap system isn’t as cut and dry as an upper limit on what any player can earn, rather a wage budget the club has to stick to, with a few ‘luxury players’ then can pay more than the rest. There’s certainly room to work on a more egalitarian salary structure in football. The real arguments take place when decisions are made as to who gets to pocket all the savings from reducing wage… Read more »
After witnessing the Willian contract, fucking hell i’d propose Draxler/Douzi as well… what they smoking over there at the Emirates.
Whether it is salaries, transfer fees or agents fees, something has to change post covid or all but a few clubs will go to the wall. The golden goose is now more of a brown duck.
TR7 – Yeah, I mean everything that you’re saying – bar anecdotal evidence – is sort of debunked by Duflo and Banerjee’s years of research. I don’t mean that disrespectfully at all, just that it’s quite possible you could have your mind changed with sufficient material. It’s a good book, read it if you have time. The argument made against salary caps by the players isn’t about limiting their desire to be the best, it’s about sharing the profits they generate for the club fairly. In a vacuum, the cost of everything in football (from salaries, to tickets, to TV… Read more »
“£5000 a week is more than enough for a footballer to live on.”
Red,
Your Jeremy Corbin world view is peeking through your new moniker
You forget that your ilk will grab 60% of the 5000 through taxes and fees.
Paying 60% tax is okay as long as its not used by a wrinkly lady with a piece of metal atop her head, her bunch of no good offspring with questionable sexual activities, all of whom hit the jackpot by birth.
Max
Exactly.
I didn’t add this part but you hit the nail on the head.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/soccer/shkodran-mustafi-in-talks-with-arsenal-to-terminate-his-contract/ar-BB1d51EH?ocid=msedgntp
Please God yes… Plan for eliminating the Axis of Evil is all coming, together.
Jamie I do get your point about a limited total wage budget. But for it to work it will have to be adopted by the whole of Europe at the same time or there’s a risk of all the best players going to the leagues with no such rules. This is just one of the problems that come with it and to adopt such a structure in the whole of Europe at the same time is a very huge task. Then there will be issues with the current contracts. In our country’s Super league ( First division), the limited budget… Read more »
Papa Sok finds his way home and signs for Olympiacos.
Jeez I cant forget Gervinho for the hair alone! 😂 It also made me think how much we paid for Adebayor – in 2006 was a reported £3mil. I know players prices went ridiculous after that but at least we got performances from him, even Baptista I remember his 4 goals against Liverpool
The top players would still be getting their commercial endorsements ( £millions) and their bonus incentives.
How about our own LG list.
1. Score a goal – £?
2. Make an assist -£?
3. Goal line clearance-£?
4. Get booked- £?
5. Get sent off-£?
6. Play utter shite. You lose a % of basic salary
7. Foul throw. £?
Could go on.
Sounding like Klopp took pass on Sokratis cause he wants Mustafi.
How’s thats for banter.
Dissenter, Thanks for the nod. The problem is too many of our fans are taken by the hype and PR stuff but don’t check themselves the players beyond the YouTube reels. FIFA that is not a paragon of virtue recommends no more than 10% of the transfer value be paid to agents. 3% for the selling clubs agents, 3% for the players agents and 3% for the buying club if they have commissioned an agent. So when people starts mentioned €20 millions agent fees on a €80 millions deal, alarm should ring very loudly. We are not yet in the… Read more »
Those of us who want Arteta sacked are accused of negative trolling, but what is wrong in wanting the best for our club.Our hapless manager has been in charge for over a year, has had 2 plus transfer windows to improve our squad, presided over our worst start ever in the premier league and our league position is far lower than it was when Emery was discarded. Whether it’s transfers, team selection, tactics, substitutions, unfair treatment of certain players, the playing of his favourites when they are not delivering, his judgement is suspect. That is not trolling, it is the… Read more »
Valentin you know much about Romain Faivre?
@ WengerEagle In your example Messi would not be paid the same as he would have earned many times more in his career to date than someone like Pepe who’s contribution has been a fraction of Messis… and yes Messi would have to keep on the grind to keep earning the top dollar … just like Messi doesn’t get an automatic place all season producing fuck all because of past glories… past glories will get buy him a bit of time but if he sucks continuously he’s on the bench as it should be … because a place in the… Read more »
A European wide salary cap is not going to happen. UEFA did tried to have financial constraints, but we have all seen how FFP was just bypassed, bought and then dropped for the benefit of a few very rich clubs. European governments may come up with rules if as I suspect after COVID a large number of clubs collapse and threaten the very existence of their domestic leagues. In France the DNCG is the sport financial regulator and it has enormous power. None of the other European regulator with maybe the exception of Belgium have similar power. One thing that… Read more »
@ Graham
Exactly.. Love it lol!
Doublethink, Sorry, don’t know much about Romain Faivre. He has been receiving great review in l’Equipe playing for Brest that have been doing much better than anticipated. Brest is a strange club in that they are very oriented toward the attack, so they score a lot of goals but also conceded a lot. Similar to Leeds. The few Brest games that I have watched, he did not jumped at me, but that may be due to Brest Tourette like football style. One thing, I have noted is that Faivre is different from the usual French central midfielder in that despite… Read more »
If I’m honest I’d treat potential signings from French football with a little more scepticism in future. I certainly wouldn’t be spending big money there no matter how good a player looks, it’s becoming clear that the quality of that league makes average players look like world beaters. And absolutely no to Auoar, looks like trouble to me.
I support San Francisco. The salary cap in the NFL is there to make it equal for all clubs, along with the draft. On any given Sunday… so to speak. And it works. It is really difficult to say who will win the Super bowl at the start of each season. 60% tax rate???!!! Are you fucking kidding me,? The brain drain would be enormous, corporations would relocate, you can forget about the premier league attracting the top stars, demand would plummet, property prices would tank , unemployment would skyrocket, Christ, we would be the laughing stock. So today, we’ve… Read more »
‘It is really difficult to say who will win the Super bowl at the start of each season.’
Unless your team has Tom Brady, in that case you have a 50% chance of making a Super Bowl and a 35% chance of winning one provided he wins in two weeks, 30% even if he loses.
AFC “Thankfully not everyone is as poisonous or self entitled as the average fair-weather fan on here” Can’t stand this bullshit. I can say that I never thought Arteta was the right appointment, but that does not make me a fair weather fan. Literally worst start to a campaign in 50 odd years, yet we can’t have an opinion that the manager isn’t up to it?? You can suck at the Arteta teet, but some of us will not. There is nothing self entitled about wanting a club in the top 10 for revenue to act like it. Getting a… Read more »
Goober You seem to have not remembered the Emery era well. He lost the dressing room , no manager can come back from that . Arteta still has the backing of the players and management . A similar case is Ole , look at the start of the season he had problems . The club gave him time since he did not lose the dressing room. Now even Pogba is fit and firing for them . Imagine if Fernandes wasnt available for Ole for the first half of the season , thats how Arteta has coped with the loss of… Read more »
Divine,
Yeah I understand, my comment Was a bit too simplistic, but you get what I meant haha
Even take out the bit about Emery, was more to the point I was making. It’s 100% not about Emery why I disliked the idea of hiring Arteta, and his results have proven that to me so far, obviously apart from the fa cup win, but that shouldn’t have paved the way for new and improved contract for him