Arsenal switch out Ö for Ø

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Finally, Arsenal has managed to move Mesut Özil out of the club to Fenerbache. One of the most productive and creative players to have worn an Arsenal shirt has said goodbye after his disastrous back-9 at Arsenal climaxed with him being exited from the squad.

I don’t need to go over this again.

The player hasn’t lost out on any money.

Arsenal don’t have to deal with the smoke of his PR wafting through every pre and post-match presser.

I see a lot of his weirdo fans are deactivating their accounts, so we don’t have to deal with the grim toxicity they added to the Arsenal community.

This deal works for everyone.

He gave us some great moments, he won us some trophies, he gave us hope of better days for a little bit. I hope he finds peace in his new role. Good luck, Mesut, we wish you all the best.

Heading the other way is Martin Ødegaard. The Norwegian creative midfielder looked like he was heading to Real Sociedad, but a phone call from used-car-salesman-Arteta seems to have worked the magic. I know people huff at this, but I told you from the start, when Mikel talks football, people pay attention. He has plenty of sauce when it comes to setting the tone for an exciting vision. Now he’s starting to bring in players that can help him deliver on it.

There’s a concern that the player might not adapt. Totally fair. Dennis Suarez arrived and played about 12 minutes. Baptista was totally shite. Dani Ceballos started well and faded. Hold on a minute, why are we signing players from La Liga on short term deals?

Samuel Johnson once wrote, ‘depend upon it, sir, when a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully.’ In footballing terms, a rejection from Real Madrid is potentially devastating. His career needs to be in the ascension. He has to prove himself. Arsenal presents a unique opportunity he’s smart to take. The bar is very low for creativity, the club is huge, and the only way is up based on the news. The game time he’s been promised and the path to a prestigious move will certainly focus his mind. He’s coming here with a noose around his career, let’s see what he can do.

The big question is going to focus on where he plays. Emile Smith Rowe has been doing an excellent job in that #10 position. It’d be pretty brutal to drop him for someone that’d have to adapt to the league. So are we looking at positions where we’ve been weak this season?

Is there a chance that his range of passing and better mobility could see him slip alongside Thomas Partey? He is certainly more than capable of playing in that role. His passing would be faster than Xhaka’s and it’s clear he has more mobility. The strength of Partey defensively means we can afford the luxury of a more attack-minded player next to him in the double pivot.

He could quite simply be used to rotate with Emile Smith Rowe, but honestly, are we really going to stunt the growth of one of our own to accommodate someone who might leave in a few months? I mean, Arteta has a weird thing with the kids, so who knows.

He might also find himself on the right side of midfield. Saka has been electric there of late but is more than capable of camping out on the left of midfield and forming a partnership with Kieran Tierney. This would all be a little problematic for Gabriel Martinelli, but look, at least we’d have electric options available to us.

I think we should all be excited. Why? Well, if you look at this season with a hopeful lens, and you believe that Mikel Arteta is capable of learning, then the harshest of lessons have already played out.

  • Certain senior players are bums and cannot be trusted
  • Youth at 100% trumps experience at 70%
  • Mobility and pace beats craft and Champions League games
  • Shit performance is part of the non-negotiables
  • There’s a right way to lose, and it’s not playing with peak Tony Pulis principles

The second half of the season won’t see as many red cards. It hopefully won’t see as many awful injuries. It won’t have senior players trying to down the manager. It won’t be bereft of shots (up to 10th!). The football won’t be boring.

Where we’ll finish is going to be very dependent on what happens with the next two games. Beat Southampton and United, maybe we can have an interesting conversation. We’d be 10 points off United who are top and we’d be very much in the mixer for the top 4. I don’t think we have enough this season, but we’d be within spitting distance by February, which I said was always the target for the club. From there, it’d be a cup run, which suits our best players.

One to ponder. See you in the comments.

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Foxy

I can understand taking Odegaard on loan if the strategy is to try him out and then if he fits attemp to buy him, but as a short term fix to our current needs I am not to sure. Too much of a Suarez vibe – Injured, not played much, a bit lightweight for premiership.

Foxy

Allegri or Tuchel for Chelsea?

Terraloon

Foxy

If it is Tunchal he is far more tactically astute that Lampard.

It became obvious that Lampard didn’t have a clue how to set up the team to make 5he best of Werner nor did he know what his best back 4 were .

Tunchal won’t be so gung-ho so I suspect they will be picking up points where they potentially would not have under Lampard.

So back to your question if Tunchal comes in and sorts one or two things out then it won’t be good news for Arsenal

Peckobill

Arteta only has sauce in bullshit . Negelsmann apparently top of Chelsea’s list , fucking gutted it’s sticking with Wenger when we could have gone for pep or Klopp all over again .

SpanishDave

Our owner hasn’t got a clue so Arteta is safe for a while.
Unfortunately

Jamie

Persisting with Wenger for half a decade too long and then handing the reins of power to Gazidis and then Raul is why the club is in complete disarray.

Arsenal FC is a perfect case study in why non-footballing people should not own football clubs.

englandsbest

Do the Arteta/Edu duo have sauce? You bet they do! Let’s start by saying that the vast majority of Arteta’s problems were not of his own making. He inherited them. Which is not to say he made no mistakes. Who, starting a new job, doesn’t? Arteta and Edu are by fa, the most exciting management team in PL. They have changed the face of Arsenal..What was old and decaying., like an elderlv statesman nodding by the fire dreaming of past glories, is now young and vibrant, a new contender on the block. This January has been a clear signal that… Read more »

Sid

We are willing to pay all of Odegaards wages meanwhile we loan our players and pay a big proportion of their wages.
Taking Madrids surplus players is demeaning

Bojanglesi

The question is, will Tuchel see out the season at Chelsea?

Bojanglesi

Ødegaarde’s wages 38,000, any of our “stars” 100,000.

Habesha Gooner

Bojanglesi
May be not this window but there is still a possibility. If Odegaard has a good season then we might go in for him but buendia is attainable in the summer. I am sure he will be in our list of targets if he was on it now.

Valentin

According to reports, Chelsea chose Tomas Tuchel because of the German connection. Did Werner and Tuchel not had a fallout following some comment Tuchel made as a pundit about the player performance?

Bojanglesi

I think Sid is laying down a challenge to Red to see who can be most negative poster on LG

Bojanglesi

Habesha

I think we have lost interest in Buendia.

Sid

Man c have to play 6 technically great players for it to work.
Having only Odegaard and ESR as midfielders as some are suggesting and the usual forwards that keep conceding possesion would be suicide.

Sid

Bo resorting to ad hominems

Pierre

AFC forever
“I agree with Emiratesstroller and Guns. ESR & Odegaard can play together, not sure why anyone thinks they can’t.”

It’s not whether you , me or anyone else thinks they can play together , its whether Arteta will play them together..

If Wenger was manager then I’m sure he would relish the thought of them playing together , but we have Arteta in charge and nothing i have seen so far tells me that he would play 2 playmakers in the team.

Let’s not forget , it took him 9 months to play one playmaker.

Sid

Total outlay 2.5 m till may, you conviniently left out some details

Bojanglesi

Not sure why media outlets are stating Ryan is not considered homegrown. He has dual citizenship British/Australian so he takes homegrown status.

Nelson

“He has plenty of sauce when it comes to setting the tone for an exciting vision.”

Like winning the Champion League in three years.

Bojanglesi

Nelson

Still 2 1/2 years to go.

Lampard sacked but are incompetent genius coach gets to remain in his job

Bojanglesi

Sid

Now that would be a first for LG.

Pierre

A legitimate question is , will Odegaard help us play with more energy and intensity and will he help with the pressing game that Arteta favours.

If the answer is no , then i presume the high intensity game is put on the back burner.

Playing 2 playmakers would be very wengerish which is ok by me if it will improve performances and results,

The BFB

Now Frank’s gone, why is TeflonTeta still here.

Kris

Odegaard will not play as a CM. Guaranteed. He could not do it in Spain, but he (physically weak) will do it in England? Dream on. He will alternate with ESR or play on the wings. The reason we need him is because we need 2 no10s to compete in the Europa. You’re mad if you think ESR can play twice a week 90 minutes, and Willian is embarrassing as a 10. Will he be any good? Well, he’s better than Ceba and Suarez, but 4 months is such a short loan for coming from another league that it’s a… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Please do not compare the culture at Chelsea with Arsenal.

Abramovich is not sentimental when it comes to football management and players. They are a disposable commodity.

On the other hand he appears to be loyal to the senior management whom he trusts to run the club

.

S Asoa

Abranovich wants Tuchel , apparently wants returns from his German core investment. So it will be Tuchel at Chelsea.
But
Only at AFC expired Sauces have long shelf life. Beyond their sell-by date. Wenger, Emery, yes and the obvious Fraudeta.

Pierre

BFB
“Now Frank’s gone, why is TeflonTeta still here.”

Because Chelsea have unlimited funds to keep paying off failed mangers…

It reminds me of when jim davidson was asked why he has married 5 times

He answered , because i can afford it …

AFC Forever

Pierre Take your point mate. However, he decided to leave Ozil out for non-footballing reasons which meant we never had a number 10. He obviously bought Willian to play there but somehow we ended up getting his waiter Brother. He bought ESR in. Arteta focussed everything on defensive shape and stopping the leakage of goals. Leading up to the FA Cup trophy, we absorbed pressure well and Aubamayang delivered in transition. As soon as Aubamayang stopped delivering, our goals dried up. He got so bad a shot on target was something of a bonus. I agreed with you, we desperately… Read more »

azed

Val

Arteta has sauce why Lampard is ketchup..

Pierre

Stroller
“Please do not compare the culture at Chelsea with Arsenal.”

Culture and money …they both go hand in hand …

If they couldn’t afford to keep sacking managers they would probably still have jose at the club.

Would be interesting to see how much money they have spent paying off their managers and back room staff since Abramovich arrived…

DivineSherlock

Goodbye to Fat Frank. Honestly his biggest achievement is shouting at Klopp. Wished he stayed around long enough until February atleast.

Dissenter

Laugh at Chelsea all day but they operate like a big club.
They don’t use phony values to let inexperienced managers learn theirs jobs at the club’s expense.

Emiratesstroller

Arsenal have made a lot of mistakes in last 15 years. I suspect that the two latest appointments of Lewis to Board and the new Football Director will change the culture at club. The differences between Lampard and Arteta are that the former has not won any trophies and was unlikely to do so this season whereas Arteta won FA Cup in first season against all odds and expectations. Also Chelsea invested £200 million+ in transfer market with far higher expectations this season in EPL and Champions League. On current form they are unlikely to finish in top 4 in… Read more »

Pierre

AFC
“I think Arteta will play them both, not every game but I think you will be surprised. Playing them both against the low block will give us the creativity we lack in those situations.”

I hope it works , I would just like us to bring in players that would suit the manager’s football philosophy..

Dissenter

I mean look at all these beery comments because a 22 year Norwegian who hasn’t kicked a ball in a long time is coming to us on a 5 month loan.

Out long years in the doldrums has diminished the collective minds of our fan base.
Some one had the audacity to justify Odegaard as the 74th best player on the planet as if that matters.

This move is going to give ESR less game time because in Arteta;s mind, it is ESR vs Odegaard.

I’m happy for all who are excited. Let’s go.

Jamie

“They don’t use phony values to let inexperienced managers learn theirs jobs at the club’s expense.”

They did let an inexperienced manager try to learn his job at the club’s expense though. Frank spent £263m of the club’s money on transfers over 3 windows.

What they can’t be accused of is being meek. “Have a truckload of money, you have 12-18 months to win some shit or you’re out.” Ruthless. I respect it.

AFC Forever

BFB

“Now Frank’s gone, why is TeflonTeta still here”.

Poor trolling.

Thankfully not everyone is as poisonous or self entitled as the average fair-weather fan on here. Arteta has won more than Frank as a Manager, for starters, while inheriting a pretty weak squad.

Wenger, Emery and now Arteta. It really doesn’t matter who comes in, the same thing will be recycled as part of the Trollfest on here.

Just signed a decent loanee and yet again, as sure as night follows day, everything is wrong with the club and the Manager must go. You guys have got serious issues.

Leedsgunner

If S*** performances are one of the non negotiables why is Willian given chance after chance while others are not allowed to prove themselves?

AMN, Nketiah, Nelson and Willock either need to be played more regularly or sent out on loan, failing that if he really doesn’t have belief in them… sell them for players he does believe in!

Dissenter

Jamie
Once Frank showed he wasn’t good enough, he was gone.
Don’t forget that he still qualified them for the CL in that first season so he earned his position.

AFC Forever

“Frank spent £263m of the club’s money on transfers over 3 windows”.

This.

Meanwhile, Arteta inherited a weak squad that leaked goals (with LeGrove claiming all the players were useless) yet he won us the FA Cup in his first full season.

Jaroda

Does anyone know how the line through the O in Odegaard affects the pronunciation? Is it;
a) Oooo (betty)-degaard
b) Urrr-degaard
c) Oh-degaard
d) none of these

Dissenter

Apparently, Liverpool are interested in signing PapSok on a 6 month loan but the player prefers a longer term contract with a continental team.

Leedsgunner

Knowing Arteta, he will play both ESR and Odegaard in the same game and in the same line up if and when the results go against him.

Arteta panics… and more often than not plays for the short term gain rather than looking at the long term benefit to the Arsenal. It won’t be beyond the realm of imagination that he will panic again and we may we end up with both ESR and Odegaard injured.

Yes, it’s a worse case scenario but when you have a novice for a manager, worst case scenarios become realistic ones.

Danny

Not good for us Chelsea sacking Lampard, fight for top 6 got even harder now.

Dissenter

Some people will support keeping Arteta as manager till 2025 on the basis of that cup win.
Another London club sacked another manager months after he won them an FA cup and a CL
Our club promoted an inexperienced manager to co-equal status as his boss because he won an FA cup

Some people love to find managers to build legends around.You don’t have to be manager-centric to support the club you love.

AFC Forever

Dissenter “I mean look at all these beery comments because a 22 year Norwegian who hasn’t kicked a ball in a long time is coming to us on a 5 month loan” AND “Laugh at Chelsea all day but they operate like a big club.They don’t use phony values to let inexperienced managers learn theirs jobs at the club’s expense” AND “Mourinho turned down Arsenal because it is a shit run club”. . I know you NEVER have a good word to say about Arsenal but to try to defend Fat Frank is pathetic. Chelsea is a doped club that… Read more »

Valentin

Dissenter,

Not good enough according to Arteta, but can do a job according to Klopp…
Would be funny if Sokratis were to join them and get a premier league and Champion’s League medal.

Jamie

Dissenter –

“Once Frank showed he wasn’t good enough, he was gone.”

Yep. He did well to qualify them for the CL (under a transfer ban?), but at the top level you’re only as good as your last 10 games. His inexperience was showing and Chelsea were right to move him on imo.

It’s a shame for us, though, and would’ve been much better if he had stunk the place out for a little longer.

Sid

Does anyone know how the line through the O in Odegaard affects the pronunciation? Is it;

Diet Pep fanboys like it with ‘plenty of sauce when it comes to setting the tone’

DigitalBob

Valentin – However limited Sokratis is as a defender its very likely he’ll do better than the kid they through in yesterday, Williams.

WengerEagle

Lampard apparently sacked.

Imagine saying in late November that Arteta would outlast Lampard.

AFC Forever

DigitalBob

Yes, Williams had a stinker. Just goes to show how important a player like Van Diyk is to any team. Not just his ability but the confidence he gives to those around him. Liverpool defensively looked very nervous, reminded me of Mustafi that misjudged interception.

into the red

Interesting decision time for Arteta. He has to reconfigure the side, and drop some of his old warhorses and underperformers, without stifling the new young blood. Has he the guts and conviction to do so? A fascinating second half of the season to come.

DigitalBob

AFC – Yep that swing and a miss Williams did to let Rashford in was very Mustafi-like.

Virgil was/is the most important player for them for sure. They’ve had some rotten luck with injuries to Gomez and Matip but Van Dijk or a defender as imposing really is critical to any team with league winning aspirations.

DivineSherlock

Dissenter

You comparing us to Chelsea and Arsenal is comparing Apple to Oranges . And obviously if Arteta had spent that kind of money and languished at 9th in the table he would have gotten the sack. You want us turning into Chelsea , sacking every manager that isnt performing without the money those managers spend at Chelsea ?

Mb

Playing Willian should be sufficient to get sacked.

Nelson

“Does anyone know how the line through the O in Odegaard ”

I thought it turns “O” to “Zero”.

AFC Forever

DigitalBob, yes agree. How many mistakes like that did we used to make at the back?

I hate Green Bay

Jaroda,

My Aunt in Norway pronounces it urr

I hate Green Bay

Hertha Berlin manager sacked

I hate Green Bay

I am really annoyed fat Frank has been sacked. One of the joys of winning the FA cup was seeing a sad fat Frank.

Victorious

Fat Frank getting sacked is absolutely bad news for us, they have the second best squad in the league, on paper at least, Don’t know if Tuchel can make them click, if he does make them start purring thats surely one Europe spot beyond us

andy1886

Tuchel will be Chelsea’s Emery, a potential disaster. Could be fun to watch though. Of course ESR and Odegaard could play together, but they really shouldn’t. RM have concerns about Odegaard’s defensive contribution, ESR is a busy player but still not a great athlete, which leaves Partey as our sole contributor to the defensive side of the game in midfield. Almost like back to the latter days of Wenger. Given that Arteta has invested so much in making us more defensively solid there’s no way he’ll play both and although I’m not his greatest fan I wouldn’t criticise him for… Read more »

I hate Green Bay

Fuck Mike Holgrem.
Fuck Brett Favre.
Fuck Matt LeFleur.
Fuck Aaron ‘one and four’ Rodgers.
Fuck Green Bay, a shit city in a shit state, with green and fucking yellow everywhere populated by cunts that think it’s cool to wear a lump of plastic cheese on their heads.

Mb

Tuchel waa coaching a team on auto pilot mode.. he won’t be any better than Lampard..

Nothing to worry about.

WengerEagle

Don’t rate Tuchel too highly as a manager really. Was lucky to get PSG to the CL Final last season and was bailed out by Neymar and M’Bappe vs Atalanta in the QF.

Be interesting to see what he can get from the Chavs though. They really do have a top squad there at his disposal, Lampard just lost his way and it spiraled beyond salvage. That’s how it is at a ruthless big club like Chelsea when you have expectations, out on your ass after a six weeks of bad results.

WengerEagle

IHGB

It’s weird how you seem to be an American Football fan and you’ve never really shared your thoughts with us on Rodgers and The Packers.

andy1886

DivineSherlock – Unfotunately our net spend over the last five or so years is pretty much the same as Chelsea’s and the wage bill isn’t that different either. Financially if we hadn’t fallen out of the CL places we’d be on a par with them by most metrics, we’re in the cycle that ManU fell into post SAF and it could well be that Chelsea are going down the same route now.

Mb

Conte could have done way better with Chelsea and those players.

Sly

Chelsea are decisive and it breeds outcomes
Arsenal? Meh
Tuchel is an upgrade on what we have
Same way we missed out on klopp and other world class coaches

Chika

The barrage of erratic comments in full flow, you know who’s in the building.

DivineSherlock

andy1886

Comparing net spend when we have let go Sanchez , Ozil , Ramsey on a free while they have sold Hazard for a 100mil is pointless. I was referring to Dissenter when he alluded that Arteta should have been sacked . Has Arteta spent that kind of money ? What is the net spend of Lampard as compared to Arteta . We know the mismanagement that has happened at Arsenal but Arteta (barring Willian) has shown good decision making.

AFC Forever

Interesting spending sta last ten seasons. Worth pointing out that only Abu Dhabi Oil (Man City) have spent more money than Russian Oil (Chelsea) over the last 10 years. One of three clubs that has broken the £1 billion spending mark; Man City, Man Utd & Chelsea. Despite the transfer ban last year, the Russian spent £225.1m this season, which is a ten year total of £1.38 billion. The £225.1m spent this transfer window is 16.3% of their total outlay over the last decade -recent signings Kai Havertz £72m, Timo Werner £47.7m and Ben Chilwell £45m. That is why Lampard… Read more »

Nelson

I hate Green Bay

Is your former gf from Green Bay?

I can’t believe Tom Brady did it twice to GB.

AFC Forever

Divine `sherlock

“We know the mismanagement that has happened at Arsenal but Arteta (barring Willian) has shown good decision making.”

This is true. He inherited a much weaker squad than Lampard and has spent around £200m less. He won an FA Cup in his first season and has stopped the leaking of goals.

Lampard already had a decent group of players but lost the FA Cup Final to an unfancied Arsenal side and then spent over £200 million of the Russians money – only to make the team worse.

Terraloon

Ryan indeed will be counted as a non HG.

Qualification to be counted as HG has nothing to do with nationality it’s all to do with where the player was registered in their youth.

I think that till 2017 when Ryan was aged 25 he had not played in England or Wales

SpanishDave

At least Chelsea’s owner shows that he wants to win.
Our sleepy joe couldn’t give a toss.
Culture change? Same board, same coaches , same tea lady.
Last Prem title 16 years ago.
Some ambition that

andy1886

I’m sure there are plenty who would agree that Willian isn’t MA’s only transfer mistake. Xhaka, AMN, Luiz extension, Saliba situation, failure to get anything out of Pepe (less than Emery did) are some examples you could give.

He seems to be getting better, slowly. Maybe the ball will drop regards Willian one day too. Mustafi actually leaving would be a plus, Mari may prove a reasonable buy so isn’t in the list but Cedric looks very average at best.

TT

There is no fan base better at finding negatives about their club but Arsenal fans. Beggars believe reading some of the stuff here. Its like we are at the bottom with 0 points 0 goals for and 100 against. Yes Arteta has done mistakes and will do more. What manager hasn’t? We were weighed down by unwanted player, some of them having checked out 2 years ago. Players on inflated wages and empty transfer kitty. Some of the signing haven’t fully bedded in yet, Gabriel and Partey. Some are not good enough, Willian and Pepe. All in all though I’m… Read more »

Arsnil

If you can’t read your players as a manager then you’re fucked. You’re a busted flush. He promised to trim the squad and yet there are at least eight more who should be going out the door but won’t be. He keeps playing the same players that a blind man’s guidedog would see are not good enough, not up for it and a host of younger lads like Balogun who will walk because they won’t stand waiting at the back of the queue.

raptora

I don’t rate Tuchel and I don’t agree with the choice that Chavs have made. There is obviously a chance that he’ll be successful there but I wouldn’t put money on that. Chelsea’s squad is really strong. This season could have hardly be a breeze though. Several top class young players joining in in the same Summer from a foreign league to be the top dogs in the club… They would have always needed this transitional season. Results have been worse than expected though. And Chelsea react like every big club would do. Mind you Lamps was 100x the player… Read more »

Arsnil

Just such a pity that you can’t do a deal with a player based on performance. The player gets a basic which is topped up based on performance. If he drops a 2/3/4 on matchday then nothing extra a 5/6/7 small increment. 7/8/9 full bonus. I think you would quickly see perforances improved or a drastic deduction in the wage bill.
To see William take in 200k to do nothing and Ozil lifting 350k for less than nothing is just criminal.

Tom

I guess the only question now is who has more sauce between Arteta and Tuchel.
Maybe Pedro can decide, after all he’s the sauce estimation specialist.

Graham62

Wouldn’t it be great if all players got the same basic salaries.

You know, something in the region of £10-£20k a week.max.

Still £500k- £1m a year and please, don’t tell me Footballers have short careers.

If it was all this simple, we wouldn’t have the world full of scumbag agents etc.

Tom

Chelsea hiring Tuchel is of little consequence to them.
He won’t get a chance to change any of the squad and if he doesn’t improve them immediately he’ll be gone in May with another Chelsea special golden parachute send off.

What are the chances Arteta loses his job if he does make Europe next season?
Almost none.

Tom

*doesn’t

TR7

‘Wouldn’t it be great if all players got the same basic salaries.’

It would be disastrous. Nobody would have any incentive to perform or work hard. Great competition and ambition are pre-requisites for the quest for excellence.

Dissenter

‘Same as at the Arsenal. Anyone that thinks that Arsenal can challenge for the big boy trophies with this manager, needs to visit a doctor and get checked. We are losing precious years where we could be progressing.

Take a bow my friend and step back to let the “positives” build their legends around Arteta. They probably believe what Arteta told Willian about the CL in 3 seasons.

It’s a bid silly to be laughing at a club who are making no pretensions about their mission objectives. They want to win, period

Dissenter

“What are the chances Arteta loses his job if he does make Europe next season?
Almost none.”

What are the chances Arteta loses his job if doesn’t qualify us for the CL in 2024?
Almost none.

The likes of AFC Forever will still be berating other posers for their “negativity” come that time.

Tom

Hey, at least Arsenal have values unlike Chelsea.
I’m not sure what they are but we definitely have them I’m being told repeatedly by people in charge, who have been here barely a minute or so.

DigitalBob

Mustafi buyout looking likely this week.

Dissenter

They will soon be changing Tuchel, pretty soon.

salparadisenyc

Criminal Frank sacked without an away crowd there to serenade him out.

Tom

Dissenter
Hey, at least now we have a clear baseline of zero points, zero goals for and 100 against from which we are allowed to voice our dissatisfaction in the following seasons.

Unless of course some of those 100 goals conceded would’ve been unlucky that is.

Jamie

Re: Salary caps

“It would be disastrous. Nobody would have any incentive to perform or work hard. Great competition and ambition are pre-requisites for the quest for excellence.”

This is a misconception. Read Duflo and Banerjee’s Good Economics for Hard Times. Or this Op-Ed:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/26/opinion/sunday/duflo-banerjee-economic-incentives.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

alexanderhenry

That’s brutal from Chelsea.

What it shows is that Abramavich is still deadly serious about the club. It may not work, chelsea may be worse under Tuchel in which case he’ll be out and they’ll try someone else..

What’s important about it is this:
It highlights the importance of a club’s ownership.

It’s a club’s owner that ultimately sets the tone, the vision and in time, the personality of a club.

G

” There is no fan base better at finding negatives about their club but Arsenal fans” So true
Some couldn’t even get excited beating Chelsea in a final