Here we are, like groundhog day, overseeing the wreckage of another defeat against a team we really should have beaten.
It feels like the project is over. It’s likely not, but I think football careers of managers at top clubs can deal with blips, but not mega craterings. We’re now in the end of days of Emery. There is no real clue how to stop us from losing, and the biggest mistakes of the summer are coming back to haunt us.
We are a top 5 team. We have top 5 players. We should be in the pack of clubs at the top of the league fighting it out every week, particularly this season. The fact that we are not doing that speaks to bad decisions.
Arteta started strong when he landed here, he had a nice little run of games. He played those that deserved minutes, he dropped those who did not, there was some sort of vision, and the players were into the process. Since then, we’ve seen Arteta slowly dismantle what he came here to do.
Mesut Ozil was dropped from 10 games on the bounce to a nobody… without a viable back-up plan. He wasn’t electric when he played, but we had a far better brand of football with him in the team and he was a threat.
He moved out arguably our best player of the back half of the season. Emi Martinez was a dominant force in the box and he perfectly represented the new meritocracy that was forming. We sold him in the summer and I’m sorry, I just don’t rate Leno that highly. The bigger message was that big performances didn’t seem to matter to the system. We also attempted to sell AMN, another breakout star, who is one of our best defenders.
We doubled down on a plan that hasn’t worked for three years. We gave Luiz a new deal, we broke the bank for Auba, and we signed Willian. Those three moves look tragic right now. All three spoke to yesteryears short-termist strategy that has consistently fallen short.
Those three areas of failure are badly impacting us now. They show a lack of planning, a misunderstanding of how far-reaching alpha boss moves could be, it shit on meritocracy, and it showed subservience to super-agents and undeserving older players.
The starting 11 yesterday was miserable. No creative players and no one who could score. The performance was much better. The system actually looked pretty decent at times. But that’s not enough. We are way beyond showing a bit of style to justify this car crash. We are in the depths of hell and it’s unclear anyone has the knowledge to get us out.
The problem is, if you fire Mikel, look at the talent replacing him. The guys that sat in a room and doubled a 32 years old wingers wages when he wanted to stay in London. The guys that allowed Ozil to be exited from the squad without a plan. The people that signed the cheque on William Saliba and said they’d be fine for him to rot for 6 months after a great loan spell.
The real move is a football CEO. You have Ralph Rangnick and Luis Campos out of work at the moment. The exec leadership equivalent of 2015 when Pep and Klopp were available. Older guys with a history of creating football player conveyor belts. Rangnick set up 4 clubs that all feed each other for a net neutral cost. He’s blooded young managers. He’s been written up in the New York Times as a visionary. The power move would be to accept that the three-point plan the club has is shite and being run by 3 people first jobbing. The honesty would be to stop dreaming of the Champions League Final in 3 years and to make the hard decision to accept the way back is a 5 year plan that should start this January.
Arteta has flunked out this season, he changed what was working, and he lost control. Don’t let yourself be convinced that he wasn’t helped along the way. Vinai and Edu gave him the keys. They didn’t lead when bad ideas were suggested. They indulged fantasies someone like Ralph Rangnick would have nixed. There simply aren’t many coaches in the world that could fix Arsenal without a proper structure. These players are failures. The club is borrowing window to window. The whole thing needs a rethink… otherwise, we’ll be back here in a years time pondering the same questions.
As for Arteta? It should be over. He can’t motivate his players. We aren’t hitting the target. He’s not moving the pieces fast enough to get a different output. It’s pretty dire. I don’t think he escapes this… and here’s the thing. The January transfer window is a reward for progress. Where is that progress? Which players are getting better? What does the xG say? What the fuck are we working towards?
If the idea is that we’re 1 creative player away from this side clicking, again, I think there should be an intervention.
The club might be better off ignoring January, getting in a caretaker who could resurrect the players we have, and seeing what a proper Football CEO could do for us over the next 5 months. We cannot allow a management team that is failing to keep adding to the mess with short-term panic signings. The next manager shouldn’t have to deal with another two windows worth of half baked attempts at resurrecting a style of football none of us are really convinced can take us to the promised land.
How utterly depressing I’m writing this after such a strong start to Arteta’s Arsenal career. The biggest lesson for me is that there are no rockstars in Premier League football these days. There are rockstar teams. We don’t have the support network in place to help managers thrive. Wenger, Emery, and now Arteta have all failed because of a lack of leadership… there are two options on the market that could help fix that, will anyone at the highest level recognize what we all see? I doubt it.
See you in the comments.
“The players still believe in him.”
No they don’t.
“Lets just forget everything and support the manager for now.”
You sound like a complete loser.
Marc I get that and I also support the team even though we’re useless at present but my point was that not all people will support this team, or this club considering our current run, and the drastic decline over the last season 15 or so years. Not when a lot of what is happening was foreseen and could have been avoided.
“Areta has a vision. Better to go down and come back re-invigorated than to stay forever mediocre.”
The imbecile said the same after the defeat to Southampton. Clearly an Arsenal fan.
“Lets just forget everything and support the manager for now.”
Some mothers do have thrm
Bringing Willian who has had a long career and a successful one in England at this stage was a gamble, he plays every bit like a player satisfied with his achievements and happy to play, collect big wages but play with no real desire. This is an experienced pro, and the likes of Edu is pleading for us to be patient with him as if he’s a young player who’s come from overseas.
Mind you they haven’t been so supporting of the likes of Saliba or Guendouzi.
pLAyeRs bElieVe iN hiM
Jesus wept.
He was an upper mediocre tier footballer, has zero managerial experience and sub-zero clue. The veterans played against him and schooled him more often than not and for the youngsters he is not much to look up to either.
At Liverpool, he would be sacked.
At MU, he would be sacked.
At Spuds, he would be sacked.
At MC, he would be sacked.
At Chelski, he would be sacked.
At any other club, with aspirations of progressing, he would be sacked.
Only at Arsenal do we sit and do nothing.
I suspect that some will persevere with Arteta even if he relegates Arsenal so long as he goes over to salute the home fans.
Leeds might get a 7s here.
We haven’t had a single game like the one Manure are having. Not one since Arteta joined.
Global
“Some mothers do have thrm”
Some mothers have abortions as well!
Now is seems it’s all about hubris and not wanting to lose face. The club heard the rumours and decided to hire a rookie thinking he was the new Pep with a dose of Zidane and Mourinho thrown in. Maybe they are simply too embarrassed to sack him. What Vinai say in the press conference after been caught sneak g about the Chesire mansions back roads late at night a year ago?
OGS is looking miles ahead of LEGO boi
Leeds looking better in a pummeling than we have all season. They just got one back
Am I that deluded that I expect Arteta to get sacked before the turn of the year?
We’ll probably lose vs Chelsea on 26th and vs I don’t see us winning at Brighton on 29th.
The home Carabao cup game vs City on 22nd won’t even matter, but we’ll probably lose it too.
Players aren’t the problem
“Can you tell us what that Arteta vision is?”
I’ve been asking this for months – I’m still waiting for an answer, any answer.
I doubt the man himself could answer that.
Welcome back Pedro.
Can’t believe we went for rookie like Arteta when Don Carlo was desperate to join us.
That’s exactly right Tony.
If you want to see if a team is on the same page you watch the other players and not the one on the ball.
That’s why it’s beyond ridiculous to hear posters say Arteta has introduced a coherent system our players follow. He hasn’t and that’s why he keeps on shouting instructions of pass and move that wouldn’t be out of place at a U-10 level football.
Half of Arsenal squad look at sea most of the time when in possession.
I remember the mass acquiescence of this blog when Edu got rid of a huge part of our scouting operations
Now it’s the age of the super agents and shady contacts. Expect more Willian-like signings dine by lazy fuckers who want to avoid the graft.
“Can you tell us what that Arteta vision is?”
Andy
“Next level is the next level”
“Trust the process “
Sly
***OGS is looking miles ahead of LEGO boi****
OGS does not try to be clever.No process or project with Ollie. He knows his limitations.
No fuss or fanfare too with Pogba or Maguire and his arrest and loss of form
He just plods serenely along without trying to be something he is not, he keeps it simple and adheres to Man Utd attacking traditions.
Arteta is a smug smart arse in comparison
2 goals in open play in 10 games!
A great coach???? Delusional.
Mctominay scored 2 goals in in 2 minutes today.
Jamie
Spurs won’t win the title because the league isn’t what it was when Mourinho won it last with Chelsea. There’s more quality across the top half the table and setting up you team to concede possession in hope your two world class strikers will take the few chances created for themselves every game is unsustainable.
Pretty much spot on post, Pedro. I do agree that if we switch managers it might provide a short term bounce, but won’t solve the fundamental systemic problems in the club’s hierarchy. Good shout about people who have the expertise to create a footballing culture in which the manager is part, not the be-all and end-all. In the meantime, an interim manager is probably the best idea, but who would take it on, in the knowledge that will be gone once they have improved and stabilised the squad? Arteta really blew it yesterday. With Auba out, it was a good… Read more »
Unless Bielsa goes damage limitation there’s a good chance United do one better than the 8:2 spanking they gave us.
woke up and checking the headlines
Arteta not sacked.
I do not think he will be sacked.
He will take is into the relegation zone
Losing a game here and there… ok put that on the players
A consistent pattern of losing is on the manager.
the longer Edu takes to fire him, highlights how embarrasing we are to the entire world
Players are waiting for him to get sacked. It’s so clear.
Pedro “There simply aren’t many coaches in the world who could fix Arsenal without a proper structure” Totally disagree. Do you really think that the reason Leno passes out at 5 mph, or that Luiz labours forwards like an injured soldier are because we don’t have a proper structure? Do you really think that the reason we can’t string 3 positive passes together is because we don’t have a positive structure? Do you think that the only reason we have Xhaka, Bellerin, Willian, Leno in our team is because we have a positive structure? If you genuinely think this is… Read more »
Leeds giving it a real go.
Oops!
5-1.
Just so you know, Arsenal haven’t had “a positive structure” since 2006.
Penalty MU.
6=1.
So, let’s stick with the manager.
Sensible idea👎
The brand of football Arteta is promoting is the worst in the EPL.
If he continues in this vain, we are in deep deep shite.
Are we there already?
Why is so diffictult for Arsenal tk sack a manager? Sack a amanager is the easiest thing on football world. it happens al the time, but Arsenal keep dithering like it was the harder human kind Enigma. It is simple if there are bad results and the football on the pitch is bad then you need a new manager. But who? well that is the reason you paid millions to a CEO and a DoF for have a lot of. other options and strategies,. And guesst what? If that duo dont have answers they get fired too. That happens in… Read more »
I got a feeling Leeds will be fighting relegation too.
6-2!!
Great goal from Dallas.
Diet pep fanboys muddying the waters by throwing in Vinai and Edu to soften their humiliation.
Im telling you for free!
SAGG
That’s why we are where we are.
Wenger was sacked 7=8 years too late.
Emery was sacked 2-3 months too late.
Worst run club in world football.
Leeds will get stuffed on occasions but will also hand out drubbings to a fair few teams.
They won’t get relegated.
No chance.
No chance.
We will see. I hope you have the same confidence in Arsenal staying up?
Leeds just got promoted so they ought to be fighting to stay up, that’s it even a story.
Leeds wage bill can’t be more than one third of Arsenal’s
Pedro ‘The real move is a football CEO’. Maybe, but when are you going to acknowledge Stan’s responsibility? The ownership of a football club is important.. very important. The owner tells the story, sets the agenda, fires up the engine, sets goals and targets. Our current owner has as much appeal as a tescos cheese and pickle sandwich. He’s as inspiring as an embittered, washed up geography teacher with one term to go before retirement. All the noises coming from Arsenal at the moment are hopelessly out of touch, deluded and about as exciting as a lecture on double entry… Read more »
This is all you need to add to Pedro’s blog. MOTD pundit A. Shearer blasts Arsenal players.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55382530
Let’s see where Arsenal will be at the end of 2021.
“Arsenal need a Football CEO to stop the rot and address the long term” No they don’t, they need to take their so-called rebuild seriously and gut the whole thing. There is nothing foundationally solid about the way the club is going about its business, nothing. If you want to do this right you need to build it from the ground up and be serious about it. Vinnai, Edu and Arteta should all be shown the door and then bring in proper football people, not loyal patsies who espouse “Arsenal Values”. Those values have you where you are today, looking… Read more »
Dissenter
December 20, 2020 18:14:07
They concede far too many goals. And their squad is weak.
Here is another interesting point. The likes of Burnley, Brighton, Sheffield and West Brom all are familiar with what it takes to be victorious in a relegation fight. Arsenal’s players have never experienced that and will loose a relegation battle.
Samesong
Every newly promoted club is automatically on the line to go back down.
It’s not even surprising in the least
If this was Fergies United that blew our doors off at OT this would’ve been double digits already
Shocking finishing by United.
Let’s not pretend like OGS is going to win the title.
He is, albeit of smaller proportions, a failed experiment, just like Arteta.
Manure should have been fighting with Pool and City for years now.
OGS isn’t the answer same way Arteta isn’t
When Allegri and Poch among others are available, to persist with Ole is almost as idiotic as us persisting with Arteta. Yes, they aren’t 15th, but with their money and history, the top 4 trophy should be a failure.
marc
What is ridiculous is your assumption that a replacement would do better than Arteta.
calypso
Harry was a wily old codger. Not the sort of guy you’d buy a second-hand car from.
@ER
The need a new DofF because they need a credible manager and talent to join Arsenal. The present powers in the corridor don’t have this. Players were willing to join Everton because they had Ancelotti players joined Arsenal because of AW. We have no one with any stardom in Arsenal’s execs to draw talent. You need to flush the present CEO, DofF and manager.
How will you attract the managers that many here in the blog would like to see at Arsenal when you have duds running the club?
MD-Gunner
Maybe they won’t have a choice in the matter.
Could be the making of them.
Some of them anyway.
Most important is to get a new DoF. Rangnick would be ideal. Of course Edu who offers nothing but yes – yes should be out. New DoF should identify a good coach and bye Arteta. The structure at AFC does not permit his stay and neither he would agree to a demotion. Plus Arteta with his obstinate ways and nasty streak has to go to improve the climate. The existing squad is good enough for 6 place or 8 at the worst .
Moves should happen before January..
Rangnick is 62 year old veteran who has worked in football form4 decades. He’s not going to come and share powers with an arrogant upstart.
*for 4 decades.
Raptora
Leeds are a tailor made side for United to take advantage of.
Naive and always going for it but lacking in clutch finishing.
Every mistake by a Leeds player opens a door for a quick counterattacking United to punish them and they did.
No one says United are a title winning side.
Saka has regressed under Arteta.
One of the slowest seasons yet for the ‘top 6’ clubs to get going this year and 14 games in, Arsenal are nearer the relegation zone than the top 6.
You couldn’t write this shit.
The sauciest manager to ever hit arsenal turns out to be possibly the worst ever manager. Literally has no saving grace, even his fucking face annoys me.
The club are showing they don’t give a damn by sticking by him.
Wingdings
Everyone has regressed.
Auba was a golden boot winner. This is unprecedented.
If Wilder had Auba instead of McGoldrich he’d be smiling.
You think he’d set Auba up so terribly??
I said it before, Lille will be sold next summer and both Luis Campos the DoF and Christophe Galtier the headcoach are looking for new challenges. We should contact them and see if they are willing to take over next season.
If yes, then appoint a temporary manager and tell Edu that he has next transfer window and six months to save his job. If he can have a proper transfer window, we will not even retain him as Luis Campos understudy. That should motivate him.
SAG
So true
I wonder what LEGO boi could achieve with this squad if he could do the basic coaching and man management
Think the nearest we will get to a DoF is if they were to succeed in talking Wenger back
Pretty sure Arteta is safe for now, I am sure they have a list of mitigating circumstances in his favour , like losing a lot of staff over the summer that could have helped shift players out , not that these excuse some very poor performances.
Arteta will perhaps get his creative in Jan , hopefully Partey will be fit , Martinelli raring to go, and they will bank on things getting better, I hope they do
Arsenal need to act like a big club
Own up to the fact that they made a mistake with LEGO
He’s not the next Nagelsman, doesn’t have what it takes and should be relieved of duties
“I got a feeling Leeds will be fighting relegation too.”
No they won’t Samesong, they actually are closer to safety than Arsenal if you look at the bigger picture. Leeds are likely a couple of decent players away from actually competing with the bigger clubs, whereas Arsenal give you every reason to believe they are a spent force with little to no upside and an uncertain future.
The worst thing that could’ve happen was that the spanish Tony Pulis fluked the FA-cup. Just bought him more time even though he did a shit job in the league and in Europe. Should’ve been sacked at the end of last season.
“Think the nearest we will get to a DoF is if they were to succeed in talking Wenger back”
Seriously, what part of a rebuild should ever include such a thought? Why the hell did you let the guy go in the first place then?
Some of you seriously need to give your heads a concussive shake.
Its so very true, you honestly get the club you deserve. FFS!!!
I want to appreciate pedro for churning out good reads on a regular basis. This arguably is the best arsenal blog. It is painful and heartbreaking to see what arsenal has become. Quiet traumatizing. The problem of Arsenal has been management issues: 1. Keeping Wenger for so long even when it was obvious he was past it 2. And worst so far is ignoring the golden opportunity to bring in Pep or Klopp when they became available all because of obsession with Wenger. 3. You have a team in decline under an experienced Emery( atleast he has managed in different… Read more »
Wingdings
I’ve regressed under Arteta!
Every attackers has regressed under Arteta, because his philosophy is to be static and to wait until the last moment to move into space. That counter intuitive approach is something that Guardiola has worked before. However that works if you have brilliant midfield passers. Attackers can patiently stay in their zone because they know that Xavi and Iniesta will find them and release the ball into space for them to attack. Arsenal has Elneny and Xhaka as midfield conductors, our attackers can keep waiting they will never see the ball arriving in good condition from those two. With Pepe so… Read more »
It beggars a thought that had Leno not gotten injured late last season as to exactly where this club would be? Truth be told, they have steadily regressed since last seasons belated return, and the regression shows no real tangible sign of receding any time soon. An argument could be made that Martinez quite literally saved Arteta’s sorry behind and delayed the inevitable.
Ponder that thought and you get a true realization as to really how poorly Arteta has performed over his full year at the helm.
“What is ridiculous is your assumption that a replacement would do better than Arteta.”
Why?
It’s pretty much a given that an experienced person is likely to do better than a complete novice. Or do billion dollar businesses sign up amateurs to be their CEO rather than head hunt the best available candidates?
Only at AFC.
““What is ridiculous is your assumption that a replacement would do better than Arteta.”
A can of beans could deliver the same results as Arteta!
Ernest,
It is even more annoying to think that Leno who until that game did not play in the Europa League cost us that game against Olympiakos. With Martinez in the Europa League, we may have won it and be in the Champion’s League!
That FA Cup was a fluke, due to a combination of luck, Martinez and Aubameyang scoring with nearly every few chances he had. That was never sustainable on the long run.
Another dire performance. You are right Pedro the rot needs tackling at the top. Is it any wonder that we haven’t done much since the Krankies took over. A disinterested ownership at the top isnt a recipe for success. By all means sack Arteta but the next manager will fail as well. Arsenal are a decent investment portfolio for the ownership, the idea that they give a shit is deluded. We really need to get rid of them by boycotting season ticket sales.
I’m as angry as everyone else but less pessimistic. In a game of inches, we have been on the losing side of the pivot point very consistently [perhaps our only consistency], but I see in our better moments [which are becoming more frequent] some room for optimism and would not be surprised to see us beat Chelsea. If we can play with the energy and urgency that we have occasionally produced for more sustained periods, we will start to get decent results.
When I was a kid in the sixties, Chelsea v Arsenal was the traditional fixture for Boxing Day.
A good number of personnel decisions remain questionable, Valentin. You can understand one or two, but the pattern is more a demonstration of having no real rhyme or reason to it all. The so-called non-negotiables has been proven to be a facade of hypocrisy that has actually been detrimental rather than appropriate. Going to say it, Arsenal should not be a club where a pure novice comes to whelp their managerial skills. Arteta has absolutely no business managing at the highest levels of football, none. Being an Assistant coach should never be the sole qualification of managing at a top… Read more »
“We are a top five team. We have top five players.’
No we’re not. Nobody is. You were the right to be a top five team by the players hou have and the way you play. No team has the divine right to be in the top five. The sooner you lose this pompousness the better.
Not saying I would want Wenger as DoF Ernest, just speculating some Execs in the club might, should they even be thinking about filling such a post , as I couldn’t see them going for those mentioned in this article , doubt if Stan or Josh would have heard of them
“just speculating some Execs in the club might, should they even be thinking about filling such a post”
And perhaps David, this is why we should perhaps start accepting the fact that until real and meaningful change takes place, the lower reaches of the EPL are where this club truly belongs.
Worrying theres no noise about Josh/Stan doing anything. This feels like Emery’s last month where we all knew he had to go, but Kroenke’s waited until it became beyond untenable to move.
i don’t trust arteta to build whatever it is he is trying to build. at the end of the day, where the rubber meets the road come match day for the first team, it’s just not good enough. matter of fact what we’ve been served up on premier league matchdays is pathetic. the thing about arteta is that 1. we know he comes with a project. problem is i don’t see what that is yet and he’s been in for a year. what is arteta’s artetaball? he’s proven to be unadventurous with lineup selections, no doubt unrewarding for the players… Read more »
Ernest
You’ve hit the nail on the head.
Arteta should never have been considered for the post.
Wenger Mark 2 = Emery= Arteta.
What an utter cock-up.
When ARteta started to spew his BS about non-negotiables, I made the comment to Pedro that in all businesses it is was a classic rookie manager mistake. You want to ascertain your new vision and put people on notice that things will be different now that you are in charge. Hey, I made it, when I got promoted. The problem is that every new manager think that they know better than the previous ones. So they end up micro-managing people. They end up messing thing twice: once because they are never as good at all the different jobs people who… Read more »
We absolutely need to get an experienced manager in asap, don’t know how arteta has not been sacked yet.
The board are still backing him!
eb “marc
What is ridiculous is your assumption that a replacement would do better than Arteta.”
eb. By now, you still can’t see that Arteta doesn’t know how to build an offense. With the players available to him, any EPL manager could build a better offense.
The club is now in a free fall. KSE is still remain silent. This owner is really one of the kind.
Anonymous Commentator
With you 100% on this.
The Martinez debacle was the catalyst.
You are right, the internal ramifications of this were immense.
It angered me as a fan, so imagine how the players felt.
I’ve also heard Leno is not a popular figure.
Some on here brushed this decision aside.
I didn’t.
Catastrophic mistake by Arteta.
Just looking up the Chelsea record of 2015/16 come the 17th of December the day they sacked Mourino they had played 17 lost 9 JMs last two games were against Bournemouth and Leicester both those games ended in defeat Mourinio had won the league the season before but he was sacked . Chelsea bumbled their way through the season losing 14 and finished with 10th Chelsea managed to stay out of the relegation positions ,just, but had they not sacked Mourino then entering the second half of that season the likelihood would have been their overpaid stars would be in… Read more »
What are the other supporter blogs saying?
Are there any fans saying Arteta should be given time?
Imo, this has no5hing to do with the negative club structure.
This is all down to inept coaching and poor management.
Just to backup my post, Sky put up a graphic of attacking stats, ranking each team since the last Interlull.
Arsenal have scored just three goals. Rank 20th.
Arsenal have had 27 shots on target. Rank 19th.
Shooting accuracy 35%. Rank 20th.
Shot conversion rate 2.9%. 20th.
Wenger and Emery did much better with less resources.
poor man-management
Incredible he’s not been sacked yet, such a poorly run club are Arsenal
Every performance by Martinez just highlight what a poor decision selling him has been.
Glad that Pedro has finally seen Arteta for the quack he is.
@Graham Exactly. Martinez had earned that starting spot, whatever plans there were to be run in the transfer market needed to take that detail into account. Auba did an interview with the guy after winning one of the cups, might have been both the cup and shield, he’s been sour since Martinez was sold basically, no doubt saw through the charade that arsenal were a family that would be a meritocracy. He’s been crap so far but I would probably also be taking in the absolute state of things from inside. It is simply unfortunate that Leno is the other… Read more »
The Martinez situation baffled me. At the club 10 years, finally gets his chance to shine and he grabbed it with both hands. Pretty much won us the FA cup, and was perfect for how Arteta liked to play. Quick at releasing the ball and very vocal. You could see he had charisma and he had ambition. First chance Arteta gets, Leno is back as a starter. He should have been told he’s now got to knock Emi off the number one. Arteta has since shown us how he repays good performances…. ie he doesn’t. He has favourites, and they… Read more »
AFTV
Robbie – Arteta out
DT – Arteta in
I’m also pretty sure Pedro has changed his time on the keeper situation as well. Pretty sure before it became blatantly obvious Arteta is a fraud, Pedro was slating people for saying EMI was the better keeper.
Samesong
Danny – couldn’t give a fuck about AFTV opinion haha
Ray
I honestly for the life of me cannot begin to work out what you have seen watching us recently that makes you think we could beat Chelsea!? I genuinely wish I could, but it’s not there.
What’s the stat, not scored from open play in what, 10 games? That’s surely go to be close to breaking another record!