The new brief: Survive December.

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Ok, 1 point. It’s a start.

The Southampton game followed the same pattern as the Burnley one. Average first half, strong start to the second, a self-inflicted wound… but at least we earned something out of this.

The new reality is this: Getting out of the hole we’re in isn’t going to be a flukey goal and 10 wins on the bounce. It’s going to be something slower and more painful.

Why? Well, the whole squad is shot to pieces confidence-wise and the overall character of the players, in most cases, is a long way from elite.

At this stage, you have to accept the positives when they land. That game unravelled because our players are a bit dim. Gabriel, who has been shit for quite a while, dropped a horrendous mistake after getting booked. It deserves its own paragraph.

Theo Walcott leant into Gabriel on the halfway line, grabbing him. Gabriel fell for the bait and pulled him down… like one of the worst forwards I’ve ever had the pleasure of watching was capable of turning him on the halfway line and scoring.

Honestly. Doughnut 101 behaviour. How do you coach that?

You can be angry about the performance and that’s fair. You can decry a point when we needed three, and that’d be fair. But for me, we’re in crisis and you have to take the joy where you can. A point right now is like the cracker in the desert. Enjoy it and hope something better is coming.

There were positives. The team didn’t crash after we went down to 10 men. Why does that matter? It shows we’re not at Emery levels of performances. There’s some hope there.

Auba scored a goal. He was shit for most of the game, but he didn’t give up, and the finish was painfully telegraphed, but perfect for a man on the edge.

Saka didn’t stop fighting despite having a poor game by his standards. His battling run to set up the goal was superb, he was thrashed all over the place, he stayed on his feet and gave Eddie the chance to play in our beleaguered striker to equalise.

Ainsley needs to start all our games going forward. Put him in midfield. Joe Willock might not be the finished product, but he can run and cause problems. Let’s see some more of ESR. He ‘could’ be better than Lacazette who doesn’t know how to be a #10. The line up might not have produced gold, but it was a new 11, let’s see how they play if the faith is repaid when people come back from suspensions and being dropped.

The takeaway for me was that if we’d kept 11 players on the pitch, we might have done something. We were more daring, the team was starting to show signs of life, and we were creating chances.

The brief has changed. It’s survival now. We need to power through December and try and put some points on the board. Top 4 is a distant memory. We just need to get to 40 points. A shocking shift of expectations, but that’s where we are. But the reality is this: Who is getting more out of these players? Might as well see it out and see if we can start to climb.

January is huge. He needs to shift on the bums. He needs to find some creative players. He needs to start the slow and painful shift towards the new era. The real work starts now and I fear the season is going to be quite grim. We won’t be relegated, but the best we can now hope for seems to be mid-table.

Some of that is on Arteta for not scrubbing the decks of the wasters, but part of this is simply because there has been no coherent strategy for 10 years and we’re paying the price.

This is grim. I am sad. You are also sad. But we have to hit rock bottom to find the next step in the process.

Here are my reccos:

  • Survive December
  • Clear out the wasters
  • Find a couple of creative players on loan that have something to prove
  • Blood the youngsters

Wipe your tears, let’s see what the weekend holds. Onwards!

 

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Marc

Dissenter

The same idiots praise Liverpool fans for standing up to the owners over ticket prices but Arsenal fans shouldn’t make a whimper over a manager taking us into a death spiral.

How many managers have Liverpool been through in the 10 – 15 years prior to Klopp?

andy1886

Difficult game today for some people who would love Emi to have a bad game and justify Arteta’s decision, but that could put Burnley hot on our tail. So a lose lose situation..

On the other hand if you’re a fan of Emi then you’ve got two reasons to cheer him on – a win win if Burnley are shut out.

Guess it depends on if you’re an Arteta man first or an Arsenal man first.

Rich

South African Gooner That’s exactly why we need a DOF with a backbone and a serious set of bollocks, not one who is outranked by Arteta It’s not just about spending money, we need to target the right profile of player, with the right characteristics. In a league that’s dominated by physicality, we’ve assembled a squad of lightweights, but without the technical quality of Wenger squads. It won’t matter who our head coach is, if he doesn’t have the right set of tools at his disposal. Once we get the backroom structure right, the head coaches job becomes easier. We… Read more »

MGooner

They have appointed an intern as the managing director.

What do you expect will happen?

MidwestGun

We need to win pretty much every match before January to have any chance for redemption our next 3 matches.. including Cup match is Everton, City and Chelsea. yikes. And then spend money in January to get a player to come here .. will take some serious cash. The chances of an optimistic outcome are slim.. like I said. I don’t ever remember mentally calculating how far we were from the drop zone this late in the season before. Like Marc said.. how long can you go through a season scraping the bottom of the barrel before you make a… Read more »

salparadisenyc

Marc,

Pretty clear Arteta is going to be afforded more rope than Emery for various reasons but as you say from a business perspective it will be a hard case to make to proceed further with each poor result that drops if they continue.

Based on last night, continue they will.

Elmo

Midwest

Our final game this month is Brighton.

Our record against them over last 5 games is P5 W0 D2 L3, including losing both last season. An awful lot of clubs have our number.

South African Gooner

Rich *****That’s exactly why we need a DOF with a backbone and a serious set of bollocks, not one who is outranked by Arteta***** Do we really need a DOF ? I am not sure. We most certainly do not need a technical director. (They do not work with absentee owners- we have seen that). I actually think Edu’s influence has seriously affected Arteta. (Edu would send anyone loopy!) How about a simple old fashioned structure? Experienced, battle hardened , PROVEN manager. A serious chief Scout, A CEO not on the take, More scouts. Nice and simple- like it should… Read more »

SpanishDave

Not a lot of paper talk about sacking Arteta.
He must have many deluded admirers

andy1886

But could Pep do it on a rainy night with Stoke?

Probably not. And we’re closer to Stoke than peak Barca right now.

Globalgunner

Pedro still feeding us with illusions of Arleta’s greatness. Where is the beef?. We are scrambling around at the base of the league and we are being told to eat cold chow today and prepare for filet mignon further down the line.

Tastes like boiled Michelin tyres right now to me

Marc

sal

I’d be surprised if we manage 2 points in our next 3 matches.

Rich

South African Gooner What Rangnick has done at RB Leipzig has been phenomenal, he’s been at the heart of a highly functioning football club, that unearths gems, develops them, turns profits, plays attractive football, and delivered a competitive team He would be my top pick. Campos at Monaco and then Lille has also been amazing, unearthing gems, buying low, selling high Give guys like this a bigger budget, and you’d have to think they’d solve our issues. It’s a big job, and in this market moving players on won’t be easy. Edu might be brilliant? But he doesn’t have the… Read more »

South African Gooner

PedRo

****Dissenter, reckon the journos probably understand that Pep one of the greatest managers to have graced the game, has worked with some of the best coaches in the world, and probably has a sharper view of Arteta than anyone.*****

And never forget- soccer is the biggest bullshit industry of the lot. The lot.
Those journos know nowt!

probably why we have landed in this mess, with Edu and Arteta.

South African Gooner

Rich

******What Rangnick has done at RB Leipzig has been phenomenal, he’s been at the heart of a highly functioning football club, that unearths gems, develops them, turns profits, plays attractive football, and delivered a competitive team****

I don’t dispute that.

But what does he actually know about Arsenal and English soccer and its lower leagues?

MidwestGun

Quantum- I don’t know if he has lost the entire dressing room. Probably not.. I think he trusts the wrong players and they continually let him down. Losing will break apart a change room faster then anything though and if that continues much longer there will be no way back. First half of last match I didn’t see much recognition of the situation. Jogging around … half pressing… and switching off.. not making any forward runs. Second half until the red card they looked more switched. on.. but if it takes a reaming every halftime to get results it will… Read more »

Dissenter

Pedro
“Tito V had a better win rate than Pep when he took over the job. 85%. Just for your records.”

He took over a Barcelona team with Xavi, Messi, Iniesta, David Villa, Fabregas, Thiago, Abidal, Alexis Sanchez and the great Puyol
Bless Tito soul but ,that did ‘t require special coaching. You’re talking once in a generational talents litering that squad..
That Barca team had 4 – 5 of the best 50 players in the last 50 years. There were leaders everywhere you looked.

Marc

Has anyone here ever worked in a company where a member of the team whilst being a really nice guy is a complete fucking liability? Now if that starts to you personally money through missing out on performance bonuses or similar how long before you start to get pissed off with his fuck ups?

If he’s a line managers favourite that just makes it worse – how long before you’re pissed off with the line manager even more than the fuck up?

Ladies, Gentlemen and Pedro I bring you Xhaka and Arteta.

salparadisenyc

Dissenter

What happened in the next season with Gerardo Martino at the helm after Tito’s 100 point haul?

Rich

South African Gooner The PL has moved away from technical players, it’s now about physicality and organisation This is why in my opinion, we’re seeing more competitive teams throughout the league It also helps that lower place clubs can now pick off players from any clubs they want, outside around 15 other European clubs, such is the financial might of the PL. We’ve got the least dynamic team in the league, we’ve assembled a squad of physical lightweights, of weak mentality, without the technical ability of Arsene Wenger teams. While other clubs have been assembling squads of superior athletes, snarling… Read more »

englandsbest

The endless wailing about Arteta is utterly pointless, because the Club will not sack him, that is perfectly clear. He will be given the full three years he asked for, no matter what. And quite rightly so. He has inherited a god-awful mess and no big money (like Olly and Frank) to solve it. These are hard times financially. I doubt if many Clubs here or in Europe is surviving on its own revenue. So, with a few rare exceptions, most owners are looking for reduced expenditure rather than increased turnover. Tim Lewis must have diagnosed reducing the wage bill… Read more »

raptora

“Let us be blunt: a year or two in the championship might not be bad for the Club, not if we come back mean, lean and hungry. It has revitalized a lot of clubs.”

Joker. You should be IP banned.

Inciting people to answer to your trolling.

Dissenter

Sal
You’re forgetting the horrendous impact of Tito’s illness and his death on the team
Then you’re not considering that some of the squad reached their natural limits; Iniesta and Xavi got older, Puyol and Abidal left. That’s the season where Messi had to start carrying the team solely.

Really Tito’s cancer struggles killed off that season. It was like the club got nuked.

Dissenter

I read about what happened in the dressing room when Tito told his players the cancer had recurred and grown men crying like babies.
Tito was a better man manager than Pep and the players loved him.

Receding Hairline

“Let us be blunt: a year or two in the championship might not be bad for the Club, not if we come back mean, lean and hungry. It has revitalized a lot of clubs.”

Wouldn’t surprise me if Pedro agrees with this sentiment, anything to keep Arteta on the touchline

Receding Hairline

“Dissenter, reckon the journos probably understand that Pep one of the greatest managers to have graced the game, has worked with some of the best coaches in the world, and probably has a sharper view of Arteta than anyone.”

Or maybe he is just saying what anyone would say when asked about a friend and fellow coach. I am yet to see a single manager call for another’s sack when he is struggling. Pep can have as sharp a view of Arteta as he likes, our view of the table and results is sharper, not to mention performances

NORG

2 games Arsenal 1 point and Burnley 4 – CG your man has our team in his sites

Receding Hairline

Brighton, Burnley and West Brom have all picked it up. We need as a matter of urgency to go on a run of wins or we will remember 15th place with fondness.

WengerEagle

Trips to Everton and Brighton and a match home to Chelsea to close out the year.

Would be shocked if we picked up more than 3 points from 9. Wouldn’t all at be surprised to not pick up a single point.

englandsbest

Receding Hairline

Not Pedro, Kroenke.

From the financial POV (that is, the owner’s POV) a couple of years in the championship would be worthwhile if the Club stopped losing money.

MGooner

Sauce is lucky the stadium is empty.

South African Gooner

Norg

****2 games Arsenal 1 point and Burnley 4 – CG your man has our team in his sites******

Put Dyche in charge at Arsenal – we sit top 6.
Put Arteta in charge at Burnley- they would have sacked him.

truth.

Majesticgooner

Saddens me watching a team like Aston Villa, we have no player like grealish, no player like Watkins to lead the line, even mginn is better than what we have, there defence looks better organised and goal keeper who we gave to them seem more assured in goal. The teams seem more conditioned than our weaklings. God help us. This is the clough effect, wengers DNA still permeates through the club, it’s amazing that the club has not been able to produce within any defender worth talking about, something we did regularly through the history of the club, neither have… Read more »

Kaz

The ridiculous extremes people go in defending this guy.

I’ve got better in-game management sense and instincts.

Calypso

This clown build his own team at another club and leave Arsenal now.

Graham62

We all watch the games in the EPL.

We are not stupid.

We all see the same thing.

Arsenal’s style of play is appalling.

That should not be the case.

Over to you Mikel.

Graham62

Kaz

You are not wrong.

What has Arteta actually done these past few months to show us that he genuinely knows what he’s doing?

I would say nothing.

Rich

Graham

We don’t have the players to press for 90 minutes, and force turnovers

We don’t have the centre half’s comfortable pushing up the pitch

We don’t have the technical ability to break teams down

A new head coach, doesn’t solve that dilemma, he faces the exact same one,

Dissenter

Pedro I think you’re stretching the Tito thing Firstly, start with Tito was appointed by Barca, he had worked for ages in the Barca academy system and was appointed to run the Segunda team before Pep was drafted in. Making him Prep’s assistant was a compromise. Secondly, I just described the unique circumstances of the Barca team that Tito inherited. He got generational talent that had Barca’s DNA imprinted on them at the height of the tiki-taka era. All he had to do was man manage egos to success. Tito took over a once in a generation type of talent… Read more »

HerbsArmy

Hi Graham,

I responded to your comment re: Mesut Ozil, and your question about the Wenger book, but such is the traffic, it’s back on page 3.
There are National League Conference clubs that act with more professionalism and ambition than whatever this current manifestation is of our so-called Arsenal.

Elmo

Englandsbest Kroenke has borrowed well north of $1bn to fund his purchase of Arsenal and refinance the outstanding long-term bonds that paid for the stadium. If Arsenal are relegated, revenues fall to the tens of millions, the value of the club shrinks to a tiny fraction, and Arsenal will default on the debt to Kroenke (that replaced the long-term bonds to external creditors). Bearing in mind the purchase of Usmanov’s shares valued the club at $1.7bn, since when the club has become loss-making, Covid has decimated our revenues, and we’re no longer a top-tier club, Kroenke may well currently be… Read more »

Dissenter

The Burnley revival has started
The West Brom reawakening will soon start under big Sam
Fulham are begging to get results, albeit sporadically
The Arsenal wake process is still continuing under Arteta

Dissenter

If Arsenal needed a new stadium, Kroenke would have funded it and it would have been as grand as the Spuds stadium . He has bought off the rest of the Emirates stadium debt [asking for a correction from Terraloon et al]
The dude jus built the best stadium in the world for his LA team. That dispels the notion that he doesn’t spend on his businesses
For the umpteenth time, we are the second net spenders in the league after United. Our problems is not spending. It is spending it properly and recruiting the right management staff.

Daniel Altos

What happened to mkhitaryan?He is now hands down the best player in serie A this season…7g and 5assists he is looking so silky ffs

salparadisenyc

Give the man some credit Dissenter lost 2x league matches en route to 100 points and the title, more points than Pep ever won in La Liga.

He did crash out heavy to Bayern in the semi who went on to…. well win everything if you need to sling an arrow.

Upstate Gooner

“What happened to mkhitaryan?He is now hands down the best player in serie A this season…7g and 5assists he is looking so silky ffs”

Emery and then Arteta happened… neither recognized the talent, and neither had a system to utilize a player like Mikhi.

Victorious

I think we have Sheffield for company as the worst teams in the league currently.

WengerEagle

Mkhitaryan was largely shit for us and he was terrible for United.

Just cause he is ripping Italy apart doesn’t change that fact. Is pretty remarkable how well he is doing over there.

Looks slimmer and quicker. Don’t think he took his conditioning seriously in the PL.

WengerEagle

Flick absolutely robbed for the FIFA Manager award, like Klopp but really? PL title > Treble???

salparadisenyc

I like Klopp a lot, who doesn’t but after Flick’s season thats a pretty dire miss.
Did anyone mention to the boys at FIFA that Klopp went down to Arsenal as well?

Marc

“From the financial POV (that is, the owner’s POV) a couple of years in the championship would be worthwhile if the Club stopped losing money.” That is without a doubt the most moronic thing I’ve seen posted on here and there’s been some stunners. A couple of years in the Championship would stop the club losing money? Gates receipts / match day receipts would drop by 50% – that’s £45 odd million there, no more EL £30 million, PL TV money which was £142 million for 18/19 (which we wouldn’t lose all of immediately due to parachute payments but it’d… Read more »

salparadisenyc

Marc,

My brother who has zero love for the Arsenal sent me a text after Burnley, said the Championship will be great for Arsenal finally give you guys a potential shot at title.

Banter.

Marc

sal

Don’t take this personally but I really don’t like your brother!

Marc

Quantum

Firstly certainly not at £45 odd per ticket! Secondly at a reduced cost say £20 I really don’t know it’s not something that I’ve ever had to even get close to complementing before.

Theoretically you would see my ST go from circa £1400 a season down to £400, I’d keep it for a season or so in the hope that we bounce back etc

Elmo

Agreed, Dissenter. The club have spent a lot.

The question is whether there’s a point where the club is losing enough money that the Kroenkes walk away. They have never sold a ‘sports franchise’ before, but they’ve only ever been involved in US sports, which are cartels that ensure profits for owners. Arsenal was already losing money pre-Covid.

But yeah – thinking about this is about as pointless a thought exercise as Pedro telling us if we’d only beaten Burnley and Southampton, we’d only be 5 points off top 4.

Pierre

D Altos “What happened to mkhitaryan?He is now hands down the best player in serie A this season…7g and 5assists he is looking so silky ffs” Not surprising to me in the slightest, quality player that just needed the trust of a manager to get the best out of him.. We have a few players at the club now who will experience the same as Mhkitaryan that have been written off. A manager is the most important person in a player’s career, he can make or break it…..there’s a player at Arsenal football club now who’s talent is being criminally… Read more »

Elmo

“We have a few players at the club now who will experience the same as Mhkitaryan that have been written off.”

Anyone in particular you were thinking of, Pierre?

Pierre

Give Marc a few minutes as he can’t handle being reminded of how much the team is STILL missing the intelligence, composure, vision , creativity and skill of the unmentionable..

Rich

Elmo KSE paid roughly £1,050,000,000 for Arsenal The club before COVID was valued at around £1.700,000,000 That’s £650,000,000 in equity. They could easily borrow £200-£300 million, on an interest only loan. The world has gone crazy, governments and businesses no longer borrow money based on the amount they can afford to repay, they borrow based on the amount of interest they can afford to service, and everyone is just praying interest rates don’t rise. £250,000,000 invested in the playing staff, would cost around £1,750,000 a year to service, that amount though, would be in perpetuity, until you chipped away at… Read more »

salparadisenyc

Safe to say Pierre has Nketiah top of his list.

salparadisenyc

Oh ya and Ozil.

Receding Hairline

“Anyone in particular you were thinking of, Pierre?”

Yea that was very vague..

Pierre

Elmo

Guendouzi, Torreira and Pepe for starters .

You could add AMN , Balogun, Smith Rowe and willock to that list .

azed

“Dissenter, reckon the journos probably understand that Pep one of the greatest managers to have graced the game, has worked with some of the best coaches in the world, and probably has a sharper view of Arteta than anyone.”

Pedro

What do you think Pep would say about Wenger if he was asked today?

Receding Hairline

The fact we discussing playing in the championship while some still maintain the manager doing that is unsackable is very funny

Pierre

Not forgetting Saliba and Martinez

salparadisenyc

Pierre,

Where you hoping Ozil lands next move?

JJ

I think it is overly optimistic to say we won’t get relegated. We have relegation form written all over us. What is with Auber? He plays like he just does not GAF. You don’t need “confidence” to put in a shift. He walks around with zero effort or intensity. When he does get passed the ball, he passes it right back. WTF is that all about. He gives the ball away so cheaply when the team works so hard to get him the ball. It is disgusting and not Arsenal level let alone Captain of Arsenal level. He should be… Read more »

Marc

Pierre

What do I need a few minutes for again? Not sure anything I’ve said has alluded to your fetish.

Elmo

Rich If it were your investment and you’d watched the club waste hundreds of millions in bad transfers and contracts in the past few years, each sold to you by your executives at the club telling you this one big signing would take the club to the very top, would you want to borrow a few hundred million for these people to gamble on the transfer market? I totally agree with you they can’t do nothing, but my worry is that as losses start to hit £100m or so per year, they’ll just instruct those running the club to decrease… Read more »

Elmo

At least if Mkhi is doing well, it might make other clubs actually pay to take our surplus players. They might think Arsenal is such a basket case that there’s unfilled talent being stifled there. Obviously the wages they’re on never helps.

Dissenter

Sal
I didn’t mean to diminish Tito’s achievements. He was immense as well because he took over from an intense Pep and got even better results with his own quite energy.
I was just trying to mention that he did have 4 super-special players fit and ready for him. Those players were ready to die for Tito especially after Mourinho poked him in the eye.

Rich

Elmo That’s why I’ve been saying to sack Edu, and go and get Rangnick or Campos. Both have track records in scouting+ recruitment, they buy low, sell high. Turn huge profits, and have been central to structures that have produced high octane attacking football. There’s plenty of unpolished-gems out there, but other than Martinelli, we’ve not really unearthed any for a while. Putting €50mill cash, and £200k p/w on the table for Partey, doesn’t really require any skill or acumen. We need decisive action, the logical conclusion, is to put the right person in charge, and then give them the… Read more »

Crabregas

Throwing Gabriel under the bus by fabricating the truth was very poor, I suppose expected by a blogger that is desperate for Arteta the individual to succeed.

Elmo

That’s the crux of the problem though, Rich.

We’re owned by people who don’t really understand the sport, or even the culture of the club, so they never get the right people to run the club or advise them.

salparadisenyc

Dissenter “I didn’t mean to diminish Tito’s achievements. He was immense as well because he took over from an intense Pep” Ya not even sure where that discussion started, maybe with your having a journo ask if any of Pep’s former assistant had gone onto to become a. manager in his own mold as some type of stick. Nice to see you then revise… with Tito was a better man manager than Pep and now he’s just “immense:” having pulled what he did. I’m with you there quite a thing to take over that side and win title in that… Read more »

Rich

Elmo

Hopefully Tim Lewis has his finger on the pulse.

It’s clear as day we’ve wasted far too much money, so put someone in charge with a proven track record of adding value, not subtracting value.

Even if we got the right guy, this mess has been years in construction, and will take a few years to put right.

WengerEagle

Not sure about who their Sporting Directors are but Atalanta, Dortmund, Leverkusen, Sevilla, Lyon, Lille, AC Milan, Monchengladbach and Ajax have all hoovered up talent in recent years.

Atalanta in particular have been outstanding, forget about just their squad at hand.

They have made 150 million the past 2 years from selling Kulusevski, Cristante, Kessie, Castagne, Diallo, Mancini, Petagna and they have Musa Barrow on loan at Bologna, another that will go for 30m.

If we can’t tempt Rangnick who’s been fantastic overseeing Red Bull sides, try snare one of the key guys at Atalanta maybe.

Dissenter

Wenger Eagle
A proper technical director will want the power to sack a a head coach.
The club messed up when they promoted Arteta to manager because that co-equal powers with a tech director won’t fly with any decent DoF
Why leave your current job to share responsibilities with a first year manager?
Arteta has to take a demotion for a proper DoF to come in.

Steven Berg

how come Gambon doesnt post on here anymore?

Rich

WengerEagle It’s a good shout, Leicester are also impressively run. Have no idea who’s running the ship there, but they know what they’re doing. They signed Soyuncu, Maddison, Vardy, Ndidi, Tielemans, for less than we paid for Pepe. They buy low, sell high. All the extra money in the game doesn’t necessarily create any extra talent, all it does is create inflation, that inflation falls at the foot of the fans And wherever there’s inflation, there’s deflation. The price you receive for a player isn’t just linked to the quality of the player, it’s linked to the salary and size… Read more »

Rich

* Deflation comes from the inflation we’ve seen

salparadisenyc

The irony of this space talking about a new technical director after Raul ushered Mislintat out whose since overhauled Stuttgart over two windows for about half of Partey’s release clause and their sitting a game outside of top four in the Bundesliga after getting promoted is not lost on me.

WengerEagle

Sal

We kept the suit instead of the football tracksuit man.

Apparently the January window in Emery’s first season was his breaking point.

Sanhelli pulling a fast one with the disastrous Denis Suarez move.

Rich

Salparadisenyc

It shows the value of a quality DOF

Mislintat was very complimentary about “StatDNA”

We’ve got the tools, we just need somebody who knows how to read the data.

Allowing Raul control of transfers was insane, how anyone thought he was qualified to control our transfer policy is beyond me,

You don’t get a dog, then bark at the mail man yourself.

WengerEagle

Rich

Pretty much, is why we’re finding it so hard to shift much if the overpaid shite.

Although Arteta’s proved instrumental in keeping the Xhaka freak show on the road. Also turned down good money for AMN.

Dissenter

Sal
Good shout on reminiscing about Mislintat
Maybe the club botched his appointment as usual. It should have been an all or none. Trying to do both Raul and Sven to balance each other was mistake. .
Honestly I don’t think Sven will work with a manager like Arteta who angled for a broader role than head-coach Mislintat would have walked away when Arteta was promoted to manager for the same reasons – intrusion into his duties.

WengerEagle

Dissenter

Is it not Edu that currently is in charge of bringing players in?

Obviously Arteta likely still has final say but thought that Edu had the autonomy to bring forward players options? Otherwise, what is his role exactly?

salparadisenyc

Eagle Its criminal. Mislintat took a job many on here laughed at, relegated Stuttgart. Immediately cut shot of 10 first teamer’s in his opening window, brought in 9, notably Wamangituka, Hamadi and Endo holding the mid all apparently funded by Pavard’s move to Bayern. Hired new manager, the American Pellegrino Matarazzo that October, side pushed on to promotion. Built spine around the very pacy Nicolás González, adding teenage Couibaly whose a proper unit similar to Troare, rocking a solid back line with Mavroponas loaned in this season partnering young German CB Anton and Swiss keeper Kobel. Just put 5 past… Read more »

Snowkid

Sad or pathetic or funny Dont kmow which of these pedto is with the depths hes going to defend Arteta. All to save face because so wrong Its mot working pedro. No one is buying it. Youre just compounding it. Making yourself look worse Either you are now just taking the piss knowing arteta is done and just playing devil’s advocate and dont want to admit you were wrong. Because if your serious with this and last few posts youre no different than the untold guy and his take on wenger the last decade. Man up. Admit you were wrong… Read more »

Rich

WengerEagle This is why Arteta shouldn’t have this responsibility. If we sack Arteta Does that make Edu kingmaker? Just repeating: “Xhaka is shit” “Sack Arteta” Isn’t a plan…. we need to bring someone in, and give them the reigns If Arteta doesn’t like it? He knows where the door is…. The DOF might choose to move him on anyway, and take it out of his choosing, Until KSE put someone competent on the Iron Throne, then back them to make big decisions, I don’t see how we turn this mess around. Nobody appears to know what they’re doing, it’s like… Read more »

englandsbest

Elmo Whatever happens, it will the owner who makes financial decisions. Kroenke may be a sports fan but he is not an Arsenal fan. If he were he would be spending time at the Club, watching the games. Therefore descent into a lower division is not anathema to him as it is to us. I take the points you make about less revenue and repayment of debt, etc. But his preoccupation now must be that the Club is losing money. In other words, there is no revenue to pay off debts, they are increasing. Clearly. a reversal of the cash… Read more »

englandsbest

Sorry, it’s late for me.

‘the Usmanov shares’
‘the German bank (Deutchesbank)’
‘I was trying to make’

salparadisenyc

DissenterDecember 17, 2020 22:51:13

Whose to say what transpired with Arteta getting the boarder role, clearly a mistake and had a man like Mislintat been around doubtful it would of happened.

Interestingly 3 months into his opening season at Stuttgart club moved the new manager out and instilled Matterazzo to find promotion. And they did.

Snowkid

Fucking hell rich

Get over that its the DOFs fault. Its not Edus fault

Its arteta’s. Edu isnt the one making the players worse with every passing day. Thats arteta.

Its not edu making bone head tactics. Bone head lineups. Bone head subs.

Not edu motivating. Training Its arteta

Talk about grasping at straws

Snowkid

Lucky for us. Burnley dropped 2 points today. All our rivals dropping points this week as we did.

Fulham Brighton Brom. All dropped 2 points

Bullet dodged

G8

Sorry Pedro, the post is total bollocks!
The sauce is rotten
Sack him now

Luteo Guenreira

You guys really are oh-so clever with that “Arsenal’s rivals are Fulham and Brighton” banter. It definitely is still funny and not boring at all.

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